Straight Dope Message Board

Straight Dope Message Board (https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/index.php)
-   The BBQ Pit (https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/forumdisplay.php?f=5)
-   -   I forget, do we have a general HurricaneDitka Pit thread? (https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=846268)

k9bfriender 09-29-2018 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by septimus (Post 21238802)
:confused: Hurricane has no position on sexual assault, or on anything else for that matter. He simply parrots whatever the Trump line is. The only intellectual effort he expends is in figuring out what Trump would want him to say.

Double his IQ and he could do Sarah Huckabee Sanders' job

On the plus side, that means that if his children want to know his position, they just have to turn on Fox.

While I am concerned about his daughters, and what may happen to them, and the repercussions that he may visit upon his own children for their failure to protect themselves adequately from predation, I am far more concerned about the cavalier attitude he presents towards sexual assault, and what his potential sons could do to someone else's daughters.

wolfpup 10-02-2018 04:39 AM

This is pretty funny -- if it were a newspaper story, the headline and subhead would be something like this:

Starving Artist banned, self-identified troll gets nervous
Unpopular douchebag fears for self, claims ban was motivated by "mob" pressure

Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneDitka (Post 21242758)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Little Nemo (Post 21242507)
... It was like he had decided to get banned and was driving towards the cliff as fast as he could.

Not naming names but there's another poster here I'm getting the same feeling from.

Could you PM the person so that I'll know if it's me you're thinking of?

Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneDitka (Post 21242920)
I know, and now that Starving Artist is banned, I suspect the mob will move on to other targets.


MrDibble 10-02-2018 05:18 AM

"Dans ce forum, il est bon d'interdire de temps en temps un misogyne pour encourager les autres"

Budget Player Cadet 10-02-2018 05:40 AM

Pfft. It ain't him, if anyone it's Shodan.

RitterSport 10-02-2018 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Budget Player Cadet (Post 21243011)
Pfft. It ain't him, if anyone it's Shodan.

No way. It's UltraVires. Man, that guy uses some creepy examples, and really adds zero to the board. Dumbest lawyer I've ever interacted with.

madmonk28 10-02-2018 07:50 AM

I love that the obvious trolls are nervous.

MrDibble 10-02-2018 09:51 AM

Nervous trolls? I'm OK with this.

raventhief 10-02-2018 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RitterSport (Post 21243099)
No way. It's UltraVires. Man, that guy uses some creepy examples, and really adds zero to the board. Dumbest lawyer I've ever interacted with.

Like "in 2018 it's called attempted rape, but in 1982 it was called trying to get laid."

wolfpup 10-02-2018 10:01 AM

Regardless of who Little Nemo had in mind, or which troll is next under the ban hammer, the funny part is that HurricaneDitka considers himself vulnerable, and his nervousness speaks volumes about his own perception of his role here.

Bryan Ekers 10-02-2018 11:01 AM

Not enough to actually modify his role, mind you.

madmonk28 10-02-2018 11:16 AM

Yeah, I think the obvious trolls are hoping this all blows over. The smart ones are keeping their heads down.
Regards,
MM28

wolfpup 10-02-2018 11:19 AM

Well, it **IS** his role. Trolling and annoying is pretty much his identity, and doing so under a sanctimonious veneer of "civility" is his modus operandi. Like the metaphorical stripes of the tiger, it cannot change.

Sunny Daze 10-02-2018 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDibble (Post 21243000)
"Dans ce forum, il est bon d'interdire de temps en temps un misogyne pour encourager les autres"

Heh.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Budget Player Cadet (Post 21243011)
Pfft. It ain't him, if anyone it's Shodan.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RitterSport (Post 21243099)
No way. It's UltraVires. Man, that guy uses some creepy examples, and really adds zero to the board. Dumbest lawyer I've ever interacted with.

I'm thinking more along the lines of seafood.

TroutMan 10-02-2018 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunny Daze (Post 21243552)
I'm thinking more along the lines of seafood.

Yes. Given recent interactions on the board, I'm confident that Little Nemo had the 8-armed one in mind. But the others are all worthy suggestions.

Lemur866 10-02-2018 11:46 AM

The thing is, Ditka really is just trolling. He doesn't have any purpose in posting to the board other than parroting Trump talking points.

Some of the other right wing jerks are at least trying to engage in a conversation, but Ditka is a waste of space. And also an apologist for terrorism, so he's got that going for him.

Every time I'm tempted to lay into him, I pull back because I realize there's no point. He's not worth engaging, because he's a one-man spam botnet, not a human being.

ThelmaLou 10-02-2018 11:53 AM

I'm not particularly in favor of getting anyone banned. But common sense says that if no one replies or reacts to obnoxious/offensive/outrageous posts, the posters will eventually get bored with the lack of reaction. If you read the obnoxious/offensive/outrageous posts, it's a supreme test of willpower to resist a comeback. That's why God the SDMB invented the ignore list. Just imagine: what if <pick someone> were on EVERYONE'S ignore list, such that no one ever read or reacted to anything <someone> ever posted. Can you hear the civility rolling in on the tide?

Serenity! Now!

El_Kabong 10-02-2018 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemur866 (Post 21243610)
The thing is, Ditka really is just trolling. He doesn't have any purpose in posting to the board other than parroting Trump talking points.

Some of the other right wing jerks are at least trying to engage in a conversation, but Ditka is a waste of space. And also an apologist for terrorism, so he's got that going for him.

Every time I'm tempted to lay into him, I pull back because I realize there's no point. He's not worth engaging, because he's a one-man spam botnet, not a human being.

Agreed. And, as seen in a couple of ATMB threads of the past 24 hours, he seems to be lobbying hard to replace S_A in turning every thread round to be about himself.

wolfpup 10-02-2018 12:08 PM

I rationalize my occasional involvement with HD -- when I happen to see some of the utter bullshit he posts -- as a sort of civic duty to point out what bullshit it is.

OK, maybe I'm just feeding the troll. The good news is I'm not a follower and I miss probably 90% of the bullshit he posts, and a lot of the bullshit I do see I just can't work up the energy to bother with. A lot of the time I read it just for its predictable amusement value, and move on. I ask forgiveness for the times when I am weak and give in.

RitterSport 10-02-2018 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunny Daze (Post 21243552)
...

I'm thinking more along the lines of seafood.

See, I've had the occasional useful interaction with him. And, he's much better outside of the Pit and (for some reason) ATMB.

I'd love for someone to track down any useful interaction with UV. I haven't seen it.

Sunny Daze 10-02-2018 12:17 PM

He's been on a roll lately.

Lemur866 10-02-2018 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfpup (Post 21243659)
I rationalize my occasional involvement with HD -- when I happen to see some of the utter bullshit he posts -- as a sort of civic duty to point out what bullshit it is.

OK, maybe I'm just feeding the troll. The good news is I'm not a follower and I miss probably 90% of the bullshit he posts, and a lot of the bullshit I do see I just can't work up the energy to bother with. A lot of the time I read it just for its predictable amusement value, and move on. I ask forgiveness for the times when I am weak and give in.

Sure, but that's just responding as if you're commenting on some right wing spam. You're not discussing things with Ditka, you're discussing Ditka's spam talking points with the other human beings.

snfaulkner 10-03-2018 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThelmaLou (Post 21243619)
I'm not particularly in favor of getting anyone banned. But common sense says that if no one replies or reacts to obnoxious/offensive/outrageous posts, the posters will eventually get bored with the lack of reaction. If you read the obnoxious/offensive/outrageous posts, it's a supreme test of willpower to resist a comeback. That's why God the SDMB invented the ignore list. Just imagine: what if <pick someone> were on EVERYONE'S ignore list, such that no one ever read or reacted to anything <someone> ever posted. Can you hear the civility rolling in on the tide?

Serenity! Now!

Serenity now. Insanity later.

elucidator 10-03-2018 05:48 AM

Think globally, act loco!

ThelmaLou 10-03-2018 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snfaulkner (Post 21244983)
Serenity now. Insanity later.

More like insanity now and serenity tomorrow (which never comes).

chaika 10-04-2018 08:52 AM

I'm experiencing HD fatigue, especially in the mammoth Kavanaugh thread. He doesn't seem to have much to say, and yet he says it over and over and over. Of course, HD isn't the only one guilty of racking up huge numbers of pointless posts, but he is definitely one of the usual suspects.

Vinyl Turnip 10-04-2018 09:06 AM

Yeah. Setting aside our political differences, he bores me to fucking tears, and that's one offense I can't forgive.

Grrr! 10-04-2018 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaika (Post 21247746)
I'm experiencing HD fatigue, especially in the mammoth Kavanaugh thread. He doesn't seem to have much to say, and yet he says it over and over and over. Of course, HD isn't the only one guilty of racking up huge numbers of pointless posts, but he is definitely one of the usual suspects.

I just went and looked. Holy shit! 633 posts in one thread! :eek:

JB99 10-10-2018 05:22 AM

https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb...2&postcount=19

What a goddamned clown.

Vinyl Turnip 10-10-2018 07:53 AM

Occasionally the clown mask slips enough to offer a glimpse of the Dorian Gray painting underneath.

<honk! honk!>

wguy123 10-10-2018 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB99 (Post 21258451)

What a maroon! :smack:

Ann Hedonia 10-10-2018 09:40 AM

I wish that motherfucker would get scared and go away again. He’s a bigger baby than his own kid. I hope that sniveling brat ends up being the rebellious sort and grows up to be a flaming Democratic Socialist.

Really, fuck that sanctimonious motherfucker. When he was gone I could actually enjoy the Great Debates forum. If you are reading this, HD, (and I’m onto you, I KNOW you’re reading this, motherfucker! ), just go away. And stay gone this time.

The Librarian 10-12-2018 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grrr! (Post 21247884)
I just went and looked. Holy shit! 633 posts in one thread! :eek:

How do we kill that which has no life?

JohnT 10-12-2018 07:15 AM

+1
:golf clap:
This

elucidator 10-12-2018 07:18 AM

We could refer the issue to the stake holders.

septimus 10-17-2018 10:38 AM

HurricaneDitka can't even make it over his own low bar.
 
I just had an exchange with HurricaneDitka in GD which I think shows him at his very stupidest yet.

I won't argue that Trump "owes" Warren's charity a million dollars. Lying is his trademark, and most of his oral utterances are too ungrammatical to form enforceable pledges anyway. What impressed me about the speech where Trump asked "Pocahontas" for a DNA test was the way he ranted nothing but childish insults for several minutes. Not one shred of humanity, not a single sentence of fact or non-despicable opinion; just childish insult after insult after insult. A Kindergarten teacher would have written "Little Donnie doesn't play well with others." As I wrote in GD, " all I can think is what a nasty despicable pandering hater this peculiar excuse for a human being is. I'm curious what you [Hurricane] think." His response:

Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneDitka (Post 21268517)
[I, septimus, have reddened portions so opposite from reality that it's hard to imagine the person typing them was sane or sober]

My thoughts? It sounded like fairly typical red meat for a party's base that gets thrown out at a campaign rally. Nothing in that video jumped out at me as particularly galling or offensive. I didn't see anything that distinguishes him in a meaningful way from the average politician that infests DC, certainly nothing that raises him to a particularly high (or is it low?) level of "nasty despicable pandering hater" with enough distinction to set him apart from the rest of the field. IOW, this is typical-politician-levels of "nasty despicable pandering" in my view.

I answered with
Quote:

Originally Posted by septimus (Post 21268762)
Wow! With a capital W. Trump's performance in that video is so "beyond the pale" that it would be astounding in any other context. Calling the insults despicable is an understatement. In many contexts, a performance like this would have friends, relatives, or the relevant Board of Directors seeking an intervention or considering a court filing for a Declaration of Incompetence.

Yet you claim to find this typical for "the average politician that infests DC." My mind boggles. I won't ask for evidence that this rant was "typical" I'd like to see you come up with even one single rant by a leading Democratic politician that even hints, however remotely, at rising toward this level.

Wow!

HurricaneDitka was unable to come up with any evidence whatsoever that Trump's performance was not "beyond the pale." I prodded again:
Quote:

Originally Posted by septimus (Post 21269359)
Wrong again. Reread your own #214. I'll bet even Trumpists the few that have some self-awareness realize your claim is preposterous. This Trump rant wasn't any sort of ordinary speech.

I'll admit there are a few whose prattle isn't awfully dissimilar: Sarah Palin, Alex Jones, a few of the FoxNews assholes. (Is that why you think Trump's speech is normal? Your reference point is rants on FoxNews and InfoWars?)

Start with the constant repetition of the intended insult "Pocahontas." You cannot name a single politician who prattles such a rude and silly insult over and over, can you? Even comedians like Stephen Colbert don't do that, but you don't want to pretend Colbert is "an average politician infesting DC." Then you'd have to defend Trump's top mentor, vomit-mouth Sean Hannity.

And that's just one word, "Pocahontas." IIRC, every single sentence of Trump's rant was stupid and rude. If finding a similar Youtube not by Trump is too impossible a mission, point to any part of this Trump rant that was not a moronic insult. This should be a challenge you can win! I didn't have a transcript nor did I even finish this despicable shit-talk.

Or retract your claim. Blame it on the mushrooms you ate, or the cat pounding on your keyboard. Or, are you tempted to emulate your own idol? He who just moves from one preposterous lie to another, never bothering to defend his claims, just doubling-down with ever more preposterous lies?

Or and this you're quite likely to do, 2nd only to continuing your complete refusal to back-up your claim blame me. I used an insulting word, or made a grammatical error in my challenge, so you're off the hook. Makes great sense, hunh? Trump can rant and rave like Alex Jones, but it's all OK because septimus misplaced a comma. Got it.

All I got for this was a Mod note (and I thought "mushrooms" offered Ditka a way out! :) ), and continued refusal to name any politician even remotely in the same league of blustering insults as Trump:
Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneDitka (Post 21269793)
You asked me my opinion. Specifically, you said, "I'm curious what you think." I told you what I thought. I made it clear that it was just my opinion by including phrases like "in my view". There is no "claim" that I need to "defend" there, all you wild imaginations aside.

... mistaking 43% for 38% was a bit more than a misplaced comma.

So: Trump's rant which sane observers found astounding even by Trump's standard was "typical" for politicians. But Hurricane cannot name a single such typical politician, nor point to a single YouTube.

The next time the "Nominations for Stupidest Doper" thread gets bumped, I know where my vote is going.

iiandyiiii 10-17-2018 10:53 AM

IMO he's more dishonest and actively hateful than just stupid. Not that he's particularly smart, by my reading of his posts, but I see a lot more dishonesty and hatefulness from his posts than simple stupidity.

Vinyl Turnip 10-17-2018 11:08 AM

Potato, potatoe...

The Tooth 10-17-2018 11:12 AM

Nazzi, Nahtzi...

K2500 10-18-2018 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manson1972 (Post 21273569)
Does the class tell you what to do when you are raped by the officer pulling you over?

Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneDitka (Post 21273629)
"How to file a complaint against or a compliment on behalf of a peace officer."

So ... I guess it depends on how you felt about the interaction the next morning.

I'll just leave this exchange from mpsims right here.

iiandyiiii 10-18-2018 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K2500 (Post 21273678)
I'll just leave this exchange from mpsims right here.

No surprise to see such misogyny from a gleeful Trump supporter. Remember this the next time he pretends that he actually cares about fighting sexual assault and rape.

K2500 10-18-2018 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iiandyiiii (Post 21273733)
No surprise to see such misogyny from a gleeful Trump supporter. Remember this the next time he pretends that he actually cares about fighting sexual assault and rape.

Apparently he does not recommend fighting it at all.


Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneDitka (Post 21273779)
I guess you could try to fight them, but I wouldn't recommend it. It seems like a good way to get murdered.


pulykamell 10-18-2018 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K2500 (Post 21273678)
I'll just leave this exchange from mpsims right here.

I regret ever giving him the benefit of a doubt. What a nasty sack of shit.

Skywatcher 10-18-2018 11:54 AM

Way to paint a target on yourself!

iiandyiiii 10-19-2018 06:50 PM

And he got a warning: https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb...0&postcount=24

K2500 10-19-2018 07:30 PM

Hip-hip!

raventhief 10-19-2018 10:57 PM

I'm glad he did. I'm not sure which is worse, the idea that rape depends on how the victim feels the next day, or the idea that the victim may want to compliment her rapist the next day.

bobot 10-22-2018 07:38 AM

I haven't been around here since the beginning, so I can't judge the stupidest fucking thread ever. But I'll bet you this one by HD would be in the running. It's painful to do, but you'll really want to read the whole thing.
https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb...d.php?t=864198

JohnT 10-22-2018 07:44 AM

That might be a quality nominee for the 2018-season Oh, no, you Pitn't! awards, dedicated to threads which did not go as well as the OP hoped.

Left Hand of Dorkness 10-22-2018 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobot (Post 21280168)
I haven't been around here since the beginning, so I can't judge the stupidest fucking thread ever. But I'll bet you this one by HD would be in the running. It's painful to do, but you'll really want to read the whole thing.
https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb...d.php?t=864198

Here's a good summary:

HD: Trump says Republicans Create Jobs, Democrats Create Mobs! I think that's accurate.
Other folks: But Democrats create plenty of jobs, and Republicans have created plenty of mobs, so why do you think Trump was accurate?
HD: Cite that Trump said Democrats don't create jobs, or that Republicans don't create mobs? He's not comparing them, he's just making two completely unrelated points in a rhyming slogan, and those unrelated points are clearly accurate.
Other folks: You've got to be shitting me.

iiandyiiii 10-22-2018 07:51 AM

While I normally advocate for ignoring this particular troll, Dopers have done a good job of cornering HD in the thread linked in #597. Pretty blatant that's he's just trolling for reactions, and he's been correctly called out for it (while still remaining within the rules of Elections).


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:16 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Send questions for Cecil Adams to: cecil@straightdope.com

Send comments about this website to: webmaster@straightdope.com

Terms of Use / Privacy Policy

Advertise on the Straight Dope!
(Your direct line to thousands of the smartest, hippest people on the planet, plus a few total dipsticks.)

Copyright 2019 STM Reader, LLC.