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Chimera 01-19-2018 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Shodan (Post 20733653)
I don't suppose anyone else recognizes the irony of a post accusing me of whining, and then immediately whining about an issue that has been beaten to death in a half-dozen threads, as well as being the subject of an explicit and direct mod ruling.

So, just a little disingenuous lying, then?

I accused you of whining. I didn't do the second part. Perhaps you are conflating me with everyone else on the board, but your internal paranoia is misleading you. We are not all the same person, intent on bothering you.

Fotheringay-Phipps 01-19-2018 10:57 AM

Do you even realize that he was quoting someone else's post and not yours?

elucidator 01-19-2018 10:58 AM

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Might almost describe him as a conservative version of elucidator ..
.

Oh, go right ahead! Somebody might care.

Shodan 01-19-2018 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fotheringay-Phipps (Post 20734138)
Might almost describe him as a conservative version of elucidator ...

You know, F-P, even in the Pit there are some insults that are beyond the pale.

Regards,
Shodan

Airbeck 01-19-2018 11:08 AM

Yeah that was pretty unfair to elucidator. Below the belt for sure.

Morgenstern 01-19-2018 11:08 AM

You [Shodan] and FP get a room please.

Shodan 01-19-2018 11:10 AM

Quit whining.

Regards,
Shodan

k9bfriender 01-19-2018 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Morgenstern (Post 20734226)
You [Shodan] and FP get a room please.

This one will do.

elucidator 01-19-2018 11:15 AM

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Yeah that was pretty unfair to elucidator. Below the belt for sure.
Oh, wouldn't be that unfair. In my youth, studying for admission to the penitentiary, I was very conservative. Military brat, Goldwater, Ayn Rand, the complete catastrophe! I got better! Someone. probably Twain, made me laugh at something I fiercely believed, and the Wall cracked. Sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll finished the job.

Still think its true, but can't prove it: you guys are losing because you have no funny. And can't get any.

Morgenstern 01-19-2018 11:26 AM

Yes, they have no funny.

Fotheringay-Phipps 01-19-2018 11:27 AM

Don't need it. Can just laugh at liberals ...

Blank Slate 01-19-2018 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fotheringay-Phipps (Post 20734290)
Don't need it. Can just laugh at liberals ...

Or you can watch videos of the Oklahoma City bombing and have a real laugh riot.

Morgenstern 01-19-2018 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Fotheringay-Phipps (Post 20734290)
Don't need it. Can just laugh at liberals ...

That's called Pseudobulbar Affect. They have medication for that now. Good luck to you.

Fotheringay-Phipps 01-19-2018 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Morgenstern (Post 20734307)
That's called Pseudobulbar Affect. They have medication for that now. Good luck to you.

I'm not sure if that was supposed to be funny to liberals or conservatives ...

Blank Slate 01-19-2018 11:35 AM

You know what's great about being a conservative? You never have to think about anything. You either want to keep things they way they are or go back to the way they were. No problem-solving or critical thinking required. I bet conservatives are far happier than progressives. Just leap into the nostalgia pool and drown in ignorance.

Morgenstern 01-19-2018 11:36 AM

The medication will help you with memory problems too.

Lemur866 01-19-2018 01:15 PM

So...

Still don't know which conservatives here are in favor of the Oklahoma City bombing and which are opposed. Or maybe not "in favor", just "not not in favor"?

And if you're not not not in favor of the Oklahoma City bombing, how do you feel about people who are not not in favor of it? Are they people you can hang out and have a beer with?

k9bfriender 01-19-2018 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fotheringay-Phipps (Post 20734290)
Don't need it. Can just laugh at liberals ...

Well, yeah, that was the point. Conservatives don't have any decent comedians.

It is brave of you that you would admit to crossing the aisle for your comedy needs. Who is your favorite liberal comic?

Fotheringay-Phipps 01-19-2018 01:39 PM

Hmm, perhaps I was a bit too subtle. But I don't think so.

k9bfriender 01-19-2018 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemur866 (Post 20734591)
So...

Still don't know which conservatives here are in favor of the Oklahoma City bombing and which are opposed. Or maybe not "in favor", just "not not in favor"?

And if you're not not not in favor of the Oklahoma City bombing, how do you feel about people who are not not in favor of it? Are they people you can hang out and have a beer with?

To be fair, they are not saying that they are in favor of it.

They are just saying that killing civilians is a reasonable response to controversial government actions.

The same logic that drives any terrorist.

Morgenstern 01-19-2018 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fotheringay-Phipps (Post 20734674)
Hmm, perhaps I was a bit too subtle. But I don't think so.

You really suck at the funny. Seriously, I'll bet the kids run when they see you coming. But that may be for other reasons.

Fotheringay-Phipps 01-19-2018 02:01 PM

Well I'm amusing myself at any rate. I get that it doesn't appeal to you, though that may likewise be for other reasons and at any rate is no concern of mine.

k9bfriender 01-19-2018 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fotheringay-Phipps (Post 20734674)
Hmm, perhaps I was a bit too subtle. But I don't think so.

You were ambiguous, and so I chose to interpret your remark charitably.

Since what you actually meant was to admit your party is simply trolling the liberals for the lol's, harming the country and it's people while you laugh, I thought I'd give you an out.

Fotheringay-Phipps 01-19-2018 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by k9bfriender (Post 20734747)
You were ambiguous, and so I chose to interpret your remark charitably.

There was no need for that. The posts I was responding to were not themselves "charitable".

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Since what you actually meant was to admit your party is simply trolling the liberals for the lol's, harming the country and it's people while you laugh [...]
Wow, I see once you stop being charitable, you really stop being charitable.

Morgenstern 01-19-2018 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fotheringay-Phipps (Post 20734733)
Well I'm amusing myself at any rate. ...

Try masturbation. You'll find it more amusing, and we won't have to listen to you scraping your nails on the chalkboard. Win/win.

Fotheringay-Phipps 01-19-2018 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Morgenstern (Post 20734761)
Try masturbation. You'll find it more amusing, and we won't have to listen to you scraping your nails on the chalkboard. Win/win.

Everyone has their own thing. You do yours and I'll do mine.

If you feel like you hear something like scraping nails on a chalkboard, that's fine with me too. Perhaps even a plus, on occasion.

running coach 01-19-2018 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Morgenstern (Post 20734761)
Try masturbation. You'll find it more amusing, and we won't have to listen to you scraping your nails on the chalkboard. Win/win.

What if that's how he masturbates?

QuickSilver 01-19-2018 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Morgenstern (Post 20734761)
Try masturbation. You'll find it more amusing, and we won't have to listen to you scraping your nails on the chalkboard. Win/win.

That's virtually every post F-P taps out with his cum stained hands.

k9bfriender 01-19-2018 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fotheringay-Phipps (Post 20734758)
There was no need for that. The posts I was responding to were not themselves "charitable".

Don't see how that has anything to do with anything. The posts you were responding to were making the real observation that there are no successful conservative comedians.
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Wow, I see once you stop being charitable, you really stop being charitable.
How many chances do you think I should be giving you?

Why don't you explain what is that you laugh at about liberals that makes up for the lack of successful comedy on the conservative side.

Fotheringay-Phipps 01-19-2018 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by QuickSilver (Post 20734833)
That's virtually every post F-P taps out with his cum stained hands.

I would say I'm sympathetic, but the fact is that I'm not.
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Originally Posted by k9bfriender (Post 20734844)
Don't see how that has anything to do with anything. The posts you were responding to were making the real observation that there are no successful conservative comedians.

I don't think so.
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Why don't you explain what is that you laugh at about liberals that makes up for the lack of successful comedy on the conservative side.
I don't object to the laughing part. It's the "simply trolling the liberals for the lol's, harming the country and it's people" part. You can claim that if you want, but asserting that I meant that has no basis.

QuickSilver 01-19-2018 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fotheringay-Phipps (Post 20734860)
I would say I'm sympathetic, but the fact is that I'm not.

True. You're not the least bit likeable.

Fotheringay-Phipps 01-19-2018 02:54 PM

That's not a bad response from you, have to give you a point there. You're making progress.

k9bfriender 01-19-2018 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fotheringay-Phipps (Post 20734860)
I would say I'm sympathetic, but the fact is that I'm not.
I don't think so.
I don't object to the laughing part. It's the "simply trolling the liberals for the lol's, harming the country and it's people" part. You can claim that if you want, but asserting that I meant that has no basis.

Then what is it that you are laughing at? That liberals are concerned about the future of our country? That liberals are concerned for the future of many of the more vulnerable citizens and residents of our country? That liberals are concerned about how ignoring the environment may come and bite us in the ass?

I mean, there are two types of liberals that are funny, comedians, and people that are futilely trying to protect the country, its people and its environment from the damage being done by conservatives. You said that you aren't laughing at the first, so, what does that leave us?

When Democrats were in charge, I never laughed at conservatives for trying to prevent the ACA from being passed. I disagreed with them, and fought against them, but I didn't laugh at them because I was making the things that they were striving for out of reach.

If you want people to not think that "laugh at liberals" is not you getting schadenfreudian pleasure out of the pain and dismay that liberals are feeling due to the damages that are being done to the fabric of our society, then articulate what it is about liberals you find so damn funny.

iiandyiiii 01-19-2018 03:16 PM

While I think HD is mostly a troll, I'll defend F-P a bit -- I sometimes find him obnoxious and pedantic in political threads, but he took the time to provide some thoughtful and useful information in threads I started about finding a new HVAC unit and on real estate investment. I think he's a good contributor to the board, in general.

Morgenstern 01-19-2018 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fotheringay-Phipps (Post 20734804)
Everyone has their own thing. You do yours and I'll do mine.

...

Just for the record, I wasn't offering to do it for you. You'll have to find it and figure out how to work it all on your own. If you have problems, try this site:
conservativestickuptheass.com.

If the above link doesn't work, take the stick out of your ass and try again.

Fotheringay-Phipps 01-19-2018 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Morgenstern (Post 20735009)
Just for the record, I wasn't offering to do it for you. You'll have to find it and figure out how to work it all on your own.

Or I could just watch your webcam ...

Morgenstern 01-19-2018 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fotheringay-Phipps (Post 20735032)
Or I could just watch your webcam ...

You wanna see my scrotum pole huh? You'd never feel like a man again if you did.

septimus 01-20-2018 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Blank Slate (Post 20734305)
Or you can watch videos of the Oklahoma City bombing and have a real laugh riot.

Recently I learned, via HurricaneDitka himself, that this murder of 168 people was not entirely unreasonable. Certainly not to be compared with the heinousness of the Antifa terrorists who tossed stones, unreasonably, toward Nazis Nazis merely exercising their God-given First Amendment right to complain that Jews, Muslims and blacks are not yet entirely dead.

Would I be out-of-line to suggest that Mr. Ditka's opinions are not entirely humane? And that his supporters do not appear to be entirely sane and/or sober?

Blank Slate 01-20-2018 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by septimus (Post 20735895)
Recently I learned, via HurricaneDitka himself, that this murder of 168 people was not entirely unreasonable. Certainly not to be compared with the heinousness of the Antifa terrorists who tossed stones, unreasonably, toward Nazis Nazis merely exercising their God-given First Amendment right to complain that Jews, Muslims and blacks are not yet entirely dead.

Would I be out-of-line to suggest that Mr. Ditka's opinions are not entirely humane? And that his supporters do not appear to be entirely sane and/or sober?

How can you make the McVeigh argument without also acknowledging that 9/11 was a reasonable response to U.S. excursions into the Middle East?

andros 01-20-2018 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Blank Slate (Post 20735951)
How can you make the McVeigh argument without also acknowledging that 9/11 was a reasonable response to U.S. excursions into the Middle East?

Because brown people?

k9bfriender 01-20-2018 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Blank Slate (Post 20735951)
How can you make the McVeigh argument without also acknowledging that 9/11 was a reasonable response to U.S. excursions into the Middle East?

Killing civilians in response to actions taken by a government is terrorism.

If Mcveigh's terrorism is reasonable, then all terrorism is.



FTR, I do not subscribe to that idea.

Also, anyone who holds this idea certainly cannot consider peaceful, if inconvenient, protests to be unreasonable responses to government actions. And even if a protest escalates to violence and rioting, that is still a reasonable response.

I dunno, has HD ever criticized BLM or any other protest group for anything? If not, then at least hypocrisy in this is not added to the wright of sins.

John Mace 01-20-2018 11:56 AM

Anita are "terrible people - advocating and effecting violence against their political opponents."

I wouldn't disagree with that. But then, I'd disagree with that heinous statement about McVeigh.

andros 01-20-2018 04:26 PM

Aw, Anita's not so bad.

bobot 01-20-2018 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by k9bfriender (Post 20736335)
...

I dunno, has HD ever criticized BLM or any other protest group for anything? If not, then at least hypocrisy in this is not added to the wright of sins.

He seems to have a bug up his ass about antifa. I guess those guys oppose facism. The nerve, huh? They do it with aggressive confrontation against peaceful nazis from what I've seen in HD's antifa links. Otherwise, I'd never have heard of them.

septimus 01-21-2018 01:19 AM

I Pit HurricaneDitka for wasting my time. Although typical right-wing arrogance has been the dominant theme of his contributions here, from time to time, he exhibited actual intelligence and intellectual curiosity or so I thought. In another thread, he claimed that Hillary and Trump were equivalent liars both "typical politicians." Was he aware of Trump U.? No, he openly bragged, it's not important.

I wasted time to engage him, and posted a summary of Trump U., a massive detestable fraud for which Trump has been forced to pay out tens of millions. Hurricane's response was, in effect: "Just what I said; Trump's a fraudster, Hillary exaggerated about sniper fire. Same-same. Trump has been charged with child rape; Hillary is alleged to have run the child sex ring from a pizza parlor. Same-same."

We're left with the question: How can a man exhibit this much stupidity and be both sincere and intelligent? Is the right-wing echo chamber so strong as to rob a man completely of his mental faculties? Hurricane writes like he has at least a 95+ IQ; what gives? Is he a troll? Does he work for the Russians? It seems far-fetched, but how else to explain his mental model? Even Starving Artist and Brickhead seem to understand how detestable a man Trump is.

For once, I'm not being sarcastic. I sincerely wonder what his game or mental model is. He doesn't seem like a "troll," but I have no other explanation.

iiandyiiii 01-21-2018 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by septimus (Post 20737514)
I Pit HurricaneDitka for wasting my time. Although typical right-wing arrogance has been the dominant theme of his contributions here, from time to time, he exhibited actual intelligence and intellectual curiosity — or so I thought. In another thread, he claimed that Hillary and Trump were equivalent liars — both "typical politicians." Was he aware of Trump U.? No, he openly bragged, it's not important.

I wasted time to engage him, and posted a summary of Trump U., a massive detestable fraud for which Trump has been forced to pay out tens of millions. Hurricane's response was, in effect: "Just what I said; Trump's a fraudster, Hillary exaggerated about sniper fire. Same-same. Trump has been charged with child rape; Hillary is alleged to have run the child sex ring from a pizza parlor. Same-same."

We're left with the question: How can a man exhibit this much stupidity and be both sincere and intelligent? Is the right-wing echo chamber so strong as to rob a man completely of his mental faculties? Hurricane writes like he has at least a 95+ IQ; what gives? Is he a troll? Does he work for the Russians? It seems far-fetched, but how else to explain his mental model? Even Starving Artist and Brickhead seem to understand how detestable a man Trump is.

For once, I'm not being sarcastic. I sincerely wonder what his game or mental model is. He doesn't seem like a "troll," but I have no other explanation.

Skilled stealth troll, I think. Mixed with a little bit of actual desire for discussion, and a lot of general dishonesty.

Vinyl Turnip 01-21-2018 08:12 AM

HurricaneDitka's greater sin in my eyes is that he's yet another poltroon who avoids the Pit to insulate his delicate constitution from the consequences of his own tireless shitbaggery, under the guise of religiosity or decorum or preference for real, "productive" debate over mindless mud-slinging. Meanwhile he's willing and able to say things just as vile as anything uttered here, as long as he frames it in phony golly-jeepers-I'm-only-asking-what-you-guys-think language and leaves out the fucks and cunts.

John Mace 01-21-2018 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by andros (Post 20736777)
Aw, Anita's not so bad.

Anita way to quit being tripped up by spellcheck! :)

eschereal 01-21-2018 09:32 AM

Well, you could just turn it off.

QuickSilver 01-21-2018 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinyl Turnip (Post 20737720)
HurricaneDitka's greater sin in my eyes is that he's yet another poltroon who avoids the Pit to insulate his delicate constitution from the consequences of his own tireless shitbaggery, under the guise of religiosity or decorum or preference for real, "productive" debate over mindless mud-slinging. Meanwhile he's willing and able to say things just as vile as anything uttered here, as long as he frames it in phony golly-jeepers-I'm-only-asking-what-you-guys-think language and leaves out the fucks and cunts.

I put them in my response. Then delete before posting.


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