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Potestas 06-06-2016 06:43 PM

Bra Gun
 
So I just watched a film that had bras that could shoot bullets at attackers.

Does such a thing exist in real life?

How difficult would it be to make a bra gun (that shoots bullets out of both nipple places on the bra)?

What would it involve? Could one make a high caliber gun built into a bra?

snfaulkner 06-06-2016 06:44 PM

Are we talking about Machete Kills?

Potestas 06-06-2016 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snfaulkner (Post 19385506)
Are we talking about Machete Kills?

We are talking about the Austin Powers franchise

Der Trihs 06-06-2016 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Potestas (Post 19385503)
How difficult would it be to make a bra gun (that shoots bullets out of both nipple places on the bra)?

What would it involve?

Given that there's no place to put a barrel, the only thing I can think of would be single shot projectiles launched by shaped charges. Which sounds really painful for the woman firing it even if it works, it would be like a man using a testicle-mounted gun.

snfaulkner 06-06-2016 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Der Trihs (Post 19385529)
Given that there's no place to put a barrel, the only thing I can think of would be single shot projectiles launched by shaped charges. Which sounds really painful for the woman firing it even if it works, it would be like a man using a testicle-mounted gun.

Again, are we talking Machete Kills or From Dusk to Dawn?

Der Trihs 06-06-2016 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snfaulkner (Post 19385535)
Again, are we talking Machete Kills or From Dusk to Dawn?

I've never watched either of those.

Potestas 06-06-2016 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Der Trihs (Post 19385529)
Given that there's no place to put a barrel, the only thing I can think of would be single shot projectiles launched by shaped charges. Which sounds really painful for the woman firing it even if it works, it would be like a man using a testicle-mounted gun.

Could it be possible by adding extra padding and making the womans breasts appear to be more pointy?

Chronos 06-06-2016 07:00 PM

I was thinking placing a short barrel flush with the surface, so that the gun would end up aimed either upwards or downwards from where the chest is pointed.

And my first thought on reading the OP was a device which shot the bras themselves. Like, it'd be a quick way for a lady to get dressed: Stand in front of the Bra Gun, and fire them on.

beowulff 06-06-2016 07:00 PM

Sure, small breasts + big prosthetics = space for a gun.

I still wouldn’t what to have to use it, though.

Potestas 06-06-2016 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chronos (Post 19385557)
I was thinking placing a short barrel flush with the surface, so that the gun would end up aimed either upwards or downwards from where the chest is pointed.

And my first thought on reading the OP was a device which shot the bras themselves. Like, it'd be a quick way for a lady to get dressed: Stand in front of the Bra Gun, and fire them on.

Oh no I'm talking about a gun that is like something from this (its near to the end of the clip) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M81XN90md0

Bullets would be fired from the nipple area itself at a target. I think it would be good in a date rape situation to prevent rape. Just aim and fire.

How would one keep it from accidently firing?

beowulff 06-06-2016 07:05 PM

Don’t be ridiculous.

Riemann 06-06-2016 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Der Trihs (Post 19385529)
....it would be like a man using a testicle-mounted gun.

If you look closely, there is a water pistol installed already.

Shagnasty 06-06-2016 07:55 PM

I don't think an actual firearm or two embedded in a bra is going to be very practical or comfortable in general. However, it is possible. Ring guns exist and they would work just fine as nipple jewelry sewn onto a Wonder Woman style bra. A pair of them would probably be quite stunning and distracting on the right physique as well. I am not sure how you would pull the trigger on them while remaining discrete and non-perverted looking however and firing off hot gunpowder right next to your real nipples is not advised plus it tends to ruin your clothes.

It may be more effective to use one like Elly May in the Beverly Hillbillies: "Well, I'll be doggone!, a store-bought, lace-trimmed, double-barreled slingshot."

DocCathode 06-06-2016 08:17 PM

Leisure Suit Larry 5 features such a device. The wearer says, if memory serves, "The FBI may know about accuracy and firepower, but they know nothing about comfort or support"

Telperion 06-06-2016 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shagnasty (Post 19385711)
I don't think an actual firearm or two embedded in a bra is going to be very practical or comfortable in general. However, it is possible. Ring guns exist and they would work just fine as nipple jewelry sewn onto a Wonder Woman style bra. A pair of them would probably be quite stunning and distracting on the right physique as well. I am not sure how you would pull the trigger on them while remaining discrete and non-perverted looking however and firing off hot gunpowder right next to your real nipples is not advised plus it tends to ruin your clothes.

Don't be silly. 2mm pinfire isn't even going to pierce the bra, it's like firing a soft air gun.

Count Blucher 06-06-2016 09:00 PM

As Og Is My Witness, I thought this thread was going to be about CC holsters.

****

Bra Guns.

I believe they go with bad movies, ice packs, and the phrase, "I Don't give a damn Who he is, I will Never work with that M-F-ing Director Ever Again!!!"

Also, a Penis Revolver (with twin cylinders) was featured in the movie "From Dusk Til Dawn".

Shagnasty 06-06-2016 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telperion (Post 19385858)
Don't be silly. 2mm pinfire isn't even going to pierce the bra, it's like firing a soft air gun.

The general idea is that the modified ring style guns (minus the band) could be sewn onto the outside of the bra making the wearer look really 'perky'. I never said you could kill someone with one even if you could find a way to use it but it would annoy someone if you manged to shoot them with one or both at close range.

Like the very real ring guns, cane guns and lots of other oddball types of firearms that were in vogue at one time and are now very valuable collector's items, they are mainly novelty items but they will function if you find yourself in the one in a million chance where they could possibly be useful.

kopek 06-07-2016 01:51 AM

This came up in another thread some time back. There actually was such a thing; I believe in the 50s or early 60s. At one arms show someone had made up a reel of old film of different "guns that didn't quite work out" for one of the seminars. The design was short (like 1 inch) barrels of a basic low caliber round (memory wants to say .25acp) built into each bra cup. They were shot/triggered by a string running down the sleeve of the blouse to the woman's thumbs. To actually fire the motion was to throw your arms back. The idea was that if a woman was attacked it had enough punch to put someone down or kill them at point-blank range --- sort of like the mini-.22 4 shot revolvers that have been popular now and then. How many were made or sold I can't say and other than on some the footage I saw popping up on some strange show now and then (something like Would You Believe?) I don't know if any were featured on film.

Senegoid 06-07-2016 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Der Trihs (Post 19385529)
Given that there's no place to put a barrel, . . . .

Get it implanted.

SeaDragonTattoo 06-07-2016 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Blucher (Post 19385894)
As Og Is My Witness, I thought this thread was going to be about CC holsters.

****

As a woman who recently applied for her CCL and is currently trying out different ways to carry, it was far too much to hope for a practical conversation about real life female carry issues. I was ready to come in here with opinions about that front under-bra holster that's too puny to hold my gun, but nope. *sigh*

Leo Bloom 06-07-2016 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Potestas (Post 19385572)
Oh no I'm talking about a gun that is like something from this (its near to the end of the clip) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M81XN90md0

Bullets would be fired from the nipple area itself at a target. I think it would be good in a date rape situation to prevent rape. Just aim and fire.

How would one keep it from accidently firing?

Quote:

Originally Posted by beowulff (Post 19385578)
Donít be ridiculous.


Why is it ridiculous? A safety is a part of all guns, even weird ones.

BubbaDog 06-07-2016 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snfaulkner (Post 19385506)
Are we talking about Machete Kills?

1967 Dean Martin movie - The Ambushers

KSDeputy 06-07-2016 09:02 AM

I have seen bra holsters for pocket guns, but never a bra gun.

Johnny L.A. 06-07-2016 09:17 AM

Laser Bra 2000

Me_Billy 06-07-2016 09:17 AM

Movies are FANTASY!

In real life, there would be no reason whatsoever for a bra gun????

No way to aim it accurately.
Guns create heat when fired. Wouldn't want that near body parts!

OffByOne 06-07-2016 09:25 AM

1965, The Tenth Victim, featuring Ursula Andress sporting a bra gun:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059095/?ref_=fn_al_tt_3

Johnny L.A. 06-07-2016 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OffByOne (Post 19386881)
1965, The Tenth Victim, featuring Ursula Andress sporting a bra gun:

Ursula Andress

Skammer 06-07-2016 10:16 AM

The assailants in Austin Powers who sported the nipple-mounted firearms were robots ("fembots"), not real women, so presumably the guns were in fact implanted in the breast and not merely a feature of the bra itself.

I have a friend who recently underwent double breast reconstruction, I should ask her if that was an available option.

Quercus 06-07-2016 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chronos (Post 19385557)
And my first thought on reading the OP was a device which shot the bras themselves. Like, it'd be a quick way for a lady to get dressed: Stand in front of the Bra Gun, and fire them on.

Or for hunting free-roaming boobs (kind of like that Woody Allen movie, but not giant-sized).

Steve MB 06-07-2016 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chronos (Post 19385557)
I was thinking placing a short barrel flush with the surface

So, it'd be like a pair of snub-nosed 38s, then?

Senegoid 06-07-2016 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaDragonTattoo (Post 19386404)
As a woman who recently applied for her CCL and is currently trying out different ways to carry, it was far too much to hope for a practical conversation about real life female carry issues. I was ready to come in here with opinions about that front under-bra holster that's too puny to hold my gun, but nope. *sigh*

The attitude I think I'm seeing in this entire thread, mostly, is that nobody really thinks it's a possible or practical thing; hence no serious comments about it; so the whole topic becomes open season for jokes and snark. It seems there's a consensus that there really isn't any "practical conversation" to be had here.

ETA: Okay, maybe there's a practical conversation to be had about "real life female carry issues", but this thread isn't that.

Colibri 06-07-2016 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaDragonTattoo (Post 19386404)
As a woman who recently applied for her CCL and is currently trying out different ways to carry, it was far too much to hope for a practical conversation about real life female carry issues. I was ready to come in here with opinions about that front under-bra holster that's too puny to hold my gun, but nope. *sigh*

Moderating

You're welcome to start another thread if you have some serious questions. A thread that started out based on something seen in Austin Powers movie was never going to be very serious.

Colibri
General Questions Moderator

dougie_monty 06-07-2016 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Me_Billy (Post 19386853)
Movies are FANTASY!

In real life, there would be no reason whatsoever for a bra gun????

No way to aim it accurately.
Guns create heat when fired. Wouldn't want that near body parts!

Not to mention recoil!

dracoi 06-07-2016 01:32 PM

I don't think recoil would be such an issue if you designed the gun properly. Just build a rigid frame around the breast so that recoil is directed back straight to the ribcage and not the breast tissue itself, with sufficient padding that you don't bruise the ribs.

You could also get a little extra barrel length if the guns started near the armpit and ended near the nipple. It wouldn't be straight out in front of you, but bra-guns are hardly going to need much accuracy or range. Two guns aimed to cross three to six feet in front of you would probably do the job.

Still not a very practical idea... :)

Leo Bloom 06-07-2016 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dracoi (Post 19387612)
I don't think recoil would be such an issue if you designed the gun properly. Just build a rigid frame around the breast so that recoil is directed back straight to the ribcage and not the breast tissue itself, with sufficient padding that you don't bruise the ribs...

I was told or read that some IDF special forces are/were equipped with some kind of central(-ish) chest mounted small arms (heh) for room-to-room missions.

No idea if this is true, let alone--never having been soldier--if this is outlandish.

watchwolf49 06-07-2016 01:59 PM

Does Maxwell Smart know about this?

Johnny L.A. 06-07-2016 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchwolf49 (Post 19387709)
Does Maxwell Smart know about this?

The old guns-in-the-brassier trick. That's the second time I've fallen for it this month!

Amateur Barbarian 06-07-2016 03:15 PM

Over- and under-wires.

AskNott 06-07-2016 05:38 PM

Here's Katy Perry's take on the concept.
http://www.eonline.com/news/378527/l...e-bra-on-stage

beowulff 06-07-2016 05:49 PM

Perry ≠ Gaga

kopek 06-07-2016 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny L.A. (Post 19387022)
Ursula Andress

Somewhere I have an old Mad Magazine with that line in it.


There have been a lot of odd guns developed that never saw much use; from the Puckle or even earlier to today. A bra gun? Probably sounded like a good idea at the time to someone. Pointed bras were in fashion, it didn't add much size or weight, and the heat or recoil from something like a .25 is basically nothing. So why not? The only real drawback I see is the triggering system and the idea of letting an attacker get that close. But like I said, they still sell tons of those for-shit belt-buckle .22 revolvers so ------ who am I to judge?

Johnny L.A. 06-07-2016 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kopek (Post 19388618)
Somewhere I have an old Mad Magazine with that line in it.

That's exactly where I got it. ;)

dougie_monty 06-07-2016 10:13 PM

In a Dick Tracy comic strip there was a gangster with an oversized denture fitted to fire bullets.

SeaDragonTattoo 06-07-2016 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colibri (Post 19387473)
Moderating

You're welcome to start another thread if you have some serious questions. A thread that started out based on something seen in Austin Powers movie was never going to be very serious.

Colibri
General Questions Moderator

Yea, I was tired when I wrote that. It came off far more serious than I meant it to.

Sage Rat 06-07-2016 11:31 PM

I was just reading, the other day, about a man who built up a fistula through his body so that there was a full, uninterrupted path from the front of his body to the back. He used it to stick swords through himself, as a stage act.

If you took the time to do something similar, going through the rib cage and pushing the organs to the side, theoretically, you could run a barrel through your chest. Probably, you would just want to do one breast though.

http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/05/1...an-pincushion/

ultimate11 06-08-2016 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snfaulkner (Post 19385506)
Are we talking about Machete Kills?

That scene with the "arma disparando consolador"* at the end?

But now that I think about the question, wouldn't a bra gun be redundant? :rolleyes:

*Had to keep this post SFW. Translate it if you want, that film was weird.

Leo Bloom 06-08-2016 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sage Rat (Post 19389034)
I was just reading, the other day, about a man who built up a fistula through his body so that there was a full, uninterrupted path from the front of his body to the back. He used it to stick swords through himself, as a stage act.

If you took the time to do something similar, going through the rib cage and pushing the organs to the side, theoretically, you could run a barrel through your chest. Probably, you would just want to do one breast though.

http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/05/1...an-pincushion/

Superb contribution to a superb GQ thread. Going on my cocktail-party-facts list.

I've seen people do that with their earlobes. From now on I wil call them fistulas.

Turble 06-08-2016 10:06 AM

Nobody mentions "Deadly Weapons", a 1970's film by Doris Wishman, the queen of sexploitation films, with Chesty Morgan and Harry Reems.

NSFW trailer:

dougie_monty 06-08-2016 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sage Rat (Post 19389034)
I was just reading, the other day, about a man who built up a fistula through his body so that there was a full, uninterrupted path from the front of his body to the back. He used it to stick swords through himself, as a stage act.

If you took the time to do something similar, going through the rib cage and pushing the organs to the side, theoretically, you could run a barrel through your chest. Probably, you would just want to do one breast though.

http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/05/1...an-pincushion/

Presumably this would work only with fencing foils, not regular swords, which have flat blades. Unless this "fistula" happened to have a rudely exaggerated diameter that could accommodate a wide blade.

DudeManBro 06-08-2016 12:08 PM

Probably too impractical for anyone to even bother coming up with.

The breasts do not seem capable of taking a lot of recoil, even from so so handgun rounds. The barrel would have to be very short to not look ridiculous and apparent.

So poor ballistics from an already weak round launched from an unstable mound of fatty tissue...

I think a single shot design firing a projectile that doesn't depend on energy or much penetration would be best. Like a smallish bullet, hollowed out and filled with a fast acting poison or some such. Maybe designed with a gel recoil pad that braces against the sternum.


Or just be practical and design a decent concealment holster that rides high on the thigh/panty line, that can be easily concealed wearing a skirt/dress, etc...

That way you can actually have a somewhat effective weapon.


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