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RealityChuck 09-27-2016 07:19 PM

Your fictional namesakes
 
I just downloaded a book and discovered that the main character has my wife's maiden name (it's also my great-great-grandmother's name). The name is not a very common one, though the author used it as a pun and pronounced it differently to make it work.

And I remembered that the title character of the movie "Max" has the same last name as mine.

Now I'm sure if your name is Jones or Smith or Johnson, it's pretty easy to find examples. But how about less common names? Do you have any fictional namesakes?

Bonus if both first and last name match, but first name matches are probably too easy.

silenus 09-27-2016 07:21 PM

An exact match for the last name is highly unlikely, but a variant spelling has shown up in a number of novels and stories about Nazi Germany. Mom always said "I wish the SOB had been named Smith."

TBG 09-27-2016 07:40 PM

There have been a few characters with my last name, but they always pronounced it differently.

No one with first and last as far as I know. First name is common enough that it's not notable for any characters to have the same one.

stillownedbysetters 09-27-2016 07:57 PM

There was a very popular doll that came out when I was 2 or 3 years old. The doll had my first and middle names, no last name. My family joked that we had invented the doll and named her after me.

wonky 09-27-2016 08:00 PM

I'd be shocked if a fictional character had my maiden name. It's very German and hard for many people to pronounce. My married name is easy.


Quote:

Originally Posted by stillownedbysetters (Post 19659490)
There was a very popular doll that came out when I was 2 or 3 years old. The doll had my first and middle names, no last name. My family joked that we had invented the doll and named her after me.

Hi, Raggedy! :D

terentii 09-27-2016 08:57 PM

The name on my birth certificate is the same as that of a once-popular male comic strip character, but it still sounds like a girl's name. When I was growing up, telephone operators always thought I was a girl because of it.

My surname is that of a once-popular rock-n-roll singer. It sounds cool only when you pronounce it with a European accent, like in The Blue Max.

I try to avoid using both.

terentii 09-27-2016 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stillownedbysetters (Post 19659490)
There was a very popular doll that came out when I was 2 or 3 years old. The doll had my first and middle names, no last name. My family joked that we had invented the doll and named her after me.

Patty Play Pal? :dubious:

Chronos 09-27-2016 09:15 PM

My surname is quite rare, and I've never actually seen it used in fiction... but there's one science fiction story that has a name that's close enough that in some places a typo makes it the same. IIRC, my almost-namesake is a dragon-breeder.

There's also a slightly different Americanized version of my surname that's a little more common, and borne by exactly one well-known person, but I've never seen that form in fiction.

My full name would certainly never show up in fiction, and to the best of my knowledge, I'm the only one in the US (though there might be one or two others in Germany).

I identify a lot more with my mom's side of the family, though, and her maiden name is much more common (still not a Smith or Jones, but common enough that you'll sometimes see it in the news). The only specific occurrence I can think of, though, is a minor character in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.

Biffy the Elephant Shrew 09-27-2016 09:17 PM

I have the same first and last name as a character on Lost, which I have never seen.

Loach 09-27-2016 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silenus (Post 19659417)
An exact match for the last name is highly unlikely, but a variant spelling has shown up in a number of novels and stories about Nazi Germany. Mom always said "I wish the SOB had been named Smith."

Mr Hilter?

terentii 09-27-2016 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loach (Post 19659655)
Mr Hilter?

More likely Bimmler or MacGoering.

Mister Rik 09-27-2016 10:32 PM

My last name showed up in the classic The Far Side cartoon in which a student is raising his hand and asking his teacher, "Mr. Osborne, may I be excused? My brain is full."

Ukulele Ike 09-27-2016 11:12 PM

Oh, hell. I was a crime fiction editor from the early '80s into the early aughts. My authors were constantly using my surname in their novels.

James Ellroy, for one, had a Police Commissioner Malloy in THE BLACK DAHLIA (1987), and a prominent Central Avenue jazz club called "Malloy's Nest" in THE BIG NOWHERE and L.A. CONFIDENTIAL.

Biffy the Elephant Shrew 09-27-2016 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ukulele Ike (Post 19659898)
Oh, hell. I was a crime fiction editor from the early '80s into the early aughts. My authors were constantly using my surname in their novels.

James Ellroy, for one, had a Police Commissioner Malloy in THE BLACK DAHLIA (1987), and a prominent Central Avenue jazz club called "Malloy's Nest" in THE BIG NOWHERE and L.A. CONFIDENTIAL.

Ever work with Joan Hess?

Ukulele Ike 09-27-2016 11:42 PM

I know (or knew) her well. (Smooched with her once in our younger days)

Oddly enough, I am married to a woman named "Claire."

Ukulele Ike 09-27-2016 11:44 PM

Oh, god, did I just kiss and tell?

Anyway, we were both cute back then.

ZipperJJ 09-27-2016 11:47 PM

My last name showed up as the main suspect and then defendant on Law & Order one time. Woohoo!

GESancMan 09-28-2016 12:12 AM

A certain big-headed counselor on South Park.

I'm a teacher, and I use him as my profile picture on Facebook and other places.

Little Nemo 09-28-2016 12:25 AM

You'd think I'd encounter fictional characters with my name all the time; I have a common first and last name. But there's only been one time when I've seen my name used in a work of fiction; as a character in How the West Was Won.

nearwildheaven 09-28-2016 01:20 AM

There have been a number of fictional characters with my first name, which has two common spellings.

As for my last name, a well-known shock jock had a sidekick with that surname (which wasn't his real name) and there was a series of adventure stories for boys in the early 20th century featuring a family with that name. Think "Hardy Boys" only with our name. There is also a committee-with-a-pseudonym that writes contemporary books for teenage girls and that pseudonym has my surname.

GuanoLad 09-28-2016 01:34 AM

There was a much lauded novel that came out in the 80s that was entitled with our family's name. But I think it was used in reference to its definition (in Maori), not as a character's name.

Nava 09-28-2016 01:44 AM

No namesakes I know of, and as far as we know my name+lastname combo is also unique in history, but there is a song dedicated to my firstname and it's been covered in multiple languages. It is so weird, hearing someone sing their love to you(r namesake) in a language you don't speak!

Balance 09-28-2016 01:48 AM

Musicians, superheroes, aliens, shapeshifters, and many more besides. My personal name and surname are quite common; in both fiction and real life, my namesakes are legion.

magnusblitz 09-28-2016 02:23 AM

Last name isn't super common but isn't uncommon. A Bond villain has it (and no, it's not Goldfinger).

yo han go 09-28-2016 04:04 AM

What then? Scaramanga? No? Blofeld? Oddjob? :)

OTOH I'm quite sure my given name and surname could easily pass for some bondish super villain.

JKellyMap 09-28-2016 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silenus (Post 19659417)
An exact match for the last name is highly unlikely, but a variant spelling has shown up in a number of novels and stories about Nazi Germany. Mom always said "I wish the SOB had been named Smith."

Not nice of your mom to call your dad an SOB! ;)

Sangahyando 09-28-2016 06:30 AM

My family name is fairly common and ordinary; but it has yielded one fictional namesake which I've always found pleasing. Occurs in Kipling's ballad The Rhyme of the Three Sealers -- about rival American ships and crews which all defied the laws of Tsarist Russia by poaching seals for their fur, in Siberian waters. The ballad tells of three of these outfits falling out with each other over the pursuit of their quarry, and engaging in a mini-sea-battle. One of the captains concerned, is called Tom Hall -- which was my late father's name. Dad was an extremely honest and upstanding citizen; but I suspect that a little bit of him would have, wistfully, liked to be a piratical swashbuckler.

Alessan 09-28-2016 08:01 AM

Not at all fictional: my last name is carved into stone at the foot of Napoleon's tomb.

Sir T-Cups 09-28-2016 08:25 AM

Does it count if I won a contest to be put in the book? Because my first and last name (but not "me") are definitely in a book, but I won a contest with the author to be put there.

Otherwise, I would be berry berry surprised to see my last name anywhere. My first name is getting more and more common. I share it with the son of a comic-book time traveler and a certain anarchist who may-or-may not be real

Dung Beetle 09-28-2016 08:58 AM

I was always bummed that the only Stephen King character to be named Julie was that skank from The Stand..."more akin to crawly things found among tree roots than a real human being" or something like that. There may have been another Julie in his work since then but the damage is done!

Chronos 09-28-2016 09:22 AM

Quote:

Quoth Balance:

Musicians, superheroes, aliens, shapeshifters, and many more besides. My personal name and surname are quite common; in both fiction and real life, my namesakes are legion.
John Jones?

Annie-Xmas 09-28-2016 09:25 AM

My middle and last names are the same as a very good cozy mystery writer. And I know someone named "Stephen Hayes"--the name of one of the men in that ghastly Connecticut home invasion.

But I've never seen my name in fiction.

wonky 09-28-2016 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir T-Cups (Post 19660387)
Does it count if I won a contest to be put in the book? Because my first and last name (but not "me") are definitely in a book, but I won a contest with the author to be put there.

Otherwise, I would be berry berry surprised to see my last name anywhere. My first name is getting more and more common. I share it with the son of a comic-book time traveler and a certain anarchist who may-or-may not be real

That reminds me. I have a novel I wrote a few years back. Not published (yet?), but I asked dopers if anyone wanted to loan their names, and plenty said yes. I even took requests for how they would be portrayed. Some day, you'll all be famous!

Sir T-Cups 09-28-2016 10:35 AM

I have a bookmark in the page where I'm listed because it's fun to show people.

It's one of my Jeopardy bits.

Mister Rik 09-28-2016 11:31 AM

I almost forgot that, in World of Warcraft, there is a rogue class trainer NPC named "Osborne the Night Man", and a gnome NPC named Ozzie Togglevolt.

Lightray 09-28-2016 12:56 PM

My surname is fairly rare, but we're descendants of a Union general who was "lampooned" by using the family name for the carpetbagging "Evil Senator Stoneman" in Birth of a Nation (the 1915 one; not the 2016 one). Being mocked by a horribly racist movie wasn't a bad thing, and it was kind of a cool nickname for a couple months after we watched it in high school.

There's also a Will Stoneman in Iron Will. I'm pretty sure the character is wholly fictitious, though.

Elendil's Heir 09-28-2016 12:58 PM

Lightray, Gen. Stoneman is also mentioned in the lyrics of The Band's "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOTNQF-o_mQ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ni...Old_Dixie_Down

I have never come across my full name in any fictional context, and have seen my last name used fictionally only twice, in related works.

Prof. Pepperwinkle 09-28-2016 01:01 PM

My last name is actually Summers, and I am descended from a group that includes the Victorian author Montague Summers, writer of The Vampire: Its Kith and Kin, and other dark and ponderous works of folklore. Buffy Summers, of Buffy the Vampire Slayer was named for him, so she's more-or-less a fictional relative.

Lightray 09-28-2016 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elendil's Heir (Post 19661090)
Lightray, Gen. Stoneman is also mentioned in the lyrics of The Band's "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down":

I actually went to the part of Georgia that Gen. Stoneman burned down on Sherman's March to the Sea. I had a brief moment of panic when they first question they asked me was "So, you a good ol' boy or are you a Yankee?

Apparently they'd finally forgotten some of the Civil War details by that point*, though, so I escaped unscathed. Guess I'm lucky they weren't fans of The Band.

* Except Sherman. They still took potshots at Sherman, even when the topic wasn't the Civil War.

Cartoonacy 09-28-2016 01:27 PM

I have a surname that's hard to tell how to pronounce when you read it, and hard to tell how to spell when you hear it. A friend of mine who's a comic book writer once used my name for a character, but he had to change the spelling to make it readable.

Hilarity N. Suze 09-28-2016 01:48 PM

There is a character in one of Gillian Roberts's Amanda Pepper series who is reading one of MY books. But this is not a coincidence.

Kimble 09-28-2016 01:55 PM

Once Marvel gets around to making an Alpha Flight movie, my first and last name namesake will become a lot more well-known. (I actually go by my middle name, though; I couldn't find anyone with that name.)

wonky 09-28-2016 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hilarity N. Suze (Post 19661224)
There is a character in one of Gillian Roberts's Amanda Pepper series who is reading one of MY books. But this is not a coincidence.

I love that series! How fun. :)

Jennshark 09-28-2016 03:02 PM

Not a fictional character, but I was named after the actress Jennifer Jones.

My last name is very common amongst Ashkenazi Jews, but we're Scots/Irish/Dutch.

Teuton 09-28-2016 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jennshark (Post 19661469)
Not a fictional character, but I was named after the actress Jennifer Jones.

Jennifer Jones?


The main character in Quadrophenia has the same name as me. It's a couple of years younger than me, too, so I wasn't named after him.

Sassy 09-28-2016 04:18 PM

My last name in uncommon in the US and not very common in Ireland (from which it comes.) I was quite unreasonably delighted to have it show up with a minor character / witness in a Perry Mason novel :)

Ethilrist 09-28-2016 05:51 PM

My first name used to be exceedingly rare; I was 35 before I met someone else with the name. He was a little kid who ran into my cubicle on Take your Rugrat to Work Day, wearing a nametag that said "Hi, My Name is [Your Name]". Since then, I've met a few more and heard a lot more in fiction; it's become a quirky name to name nerds with walk-on parts in TV and movies.

Last name is fairly commonly used; the only fictional one I know for sure is a character with my last name (and the first name of a woman I know) who was included into one of the Champions comics when Steve Perrin was writing them; we all gamed together.

Real world, there was a guy with my exact first/last name who got a town named after him in Texas, and a recent Secretary of State had my first name, although he pronounced it wrong. He's probably to blame for it becoming more popular...

And, there's an NPC in Glorantha named Ethilrist. Never heard the name or played the game before I picked this for my user name.

Ukulele Ike 09-28-2016 09:32 PM

...wearing a name tag that said "My Name is [Your Name]"...

Oooooooo! The very next time I have to wear a name tag THAT is what I'm going to write on it!

And then I'll walk around acting like the Robert Blake character in Lost Highway!

Gedd 09-30-2016 09:02 AM

My last name is actually more common as a first name, but even then quite rare. I most recently found a cartoon character with it.

I do know of some fictional fools, criminals, and womanizers with my first name.

bibliophage 09-30-2016 09:35 AM

I have a very unusual last name that I have never seen used as the name of a fictional character. However I have a long-dead very distant relative with the same last name who was somewhat famous but isn't exactly a household name these days. I have read his name in several nonfiction books, and he has even been mentioned, in passing, in a couple of fictional works.


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