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Old 05-21-2020, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Amara_ View Post

Fuck this shit where debating someone's equality/humanity is "polite" so long as you don't use the word "nigger". This is inherently uncivil.This board is way less tolerant with discussions whether gay people are equal. Having a mod for whom this is not theoretical really helps to moderate that crap. The mods don't want to acknowledge that topics like these clearly show to minorities and women that not only are they not equal here but they aren't welcome and they'll never be viewed as equal.

But it's a whole lot easier to allow this "discussion" when you don't belong to those groups. And that starts with allowing "scientific racism" as if it's anything other than good ol' racism but dressed up. There sure are a lot of white people for whom the desire to be superior to someone else is real important tho.
But the problem lies with the concrete, not the abstract. One can say "Do not dehumanize anyone here" and that's a fine-sounding, general concept - but in practical terms, how is it to be enforced?

Take same-sex marriage, for instance. Although one may argue that that ship officially set sail in 2015 when the Supreme Court ruled in favor of SSM nationwide, there are still a great many Americans who oppose same-sex marriage, just like how Roe v Wade didn't put an end to the pro-life movement. If a Doper argues that same-sex marriage should not be legal, then is he/she "dehumanizing" gay and lesbian people? Many would argue, yes, this is dehumanizing.

Then should the Straight Dope take disciplinary action against any Doper who argues against same-sex marriage? That would be the logical course of action to take.