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Old 02-02-2019, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by octopus View Post
If people donít feel there is redemption, especially for something thatís just very poor taste and isnít illegal, then you run the risk of people who decide itís not worth the effort to evolve. Itís a bit like prison. Do you want prison to strictly punish and be a place for retribution or should it be a place for rehabilitation?
Originally Posted by Ronald Raygun View Post
No one's saying he can't be rehabilitated. We're just saying he should resign. I don't mind if he, say, returns to private practice.
Bingo. I think it's analogous to all those evangelical preacher scandals of the 1980s (e.g. Jim Bakker). They'd be exposed, confess their sins with much weepery, and then expect that forgiveness meant they got to go on as before.

Well, it doesn't work like that. After shit like that, if you repent, you're accepted back into the flock. But you don't get to keep on being the shepherd.

Same here. Nobody's casting Ralph Northam into the outer darkness; we're just saying he can't be Governor anymore. Too many people would be too uncomfortable having a leader who'd ever done that.