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Old 03-30-2012, 10:52 PM
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Another "pick apart a movie" thread.

Any mistakes, plot holes, dialog screwups or questionable decisions are fair game. Especially encouraged are things that probably looked good during filming, but really is stupid and illogical when the movie comes out.

As an example of my last one, I would like to nominate "Hollow Man" as having one of the most annoying mistakes that took me out of the movie that I can remember.

When Kevin Bacon is invisible, and they make the latex covering for his face, they cut out holes for his eyes and mouth. But not for his nostrils. are you kidding me? A form fitting latex mask is going to be a hot item to begin with, but to restrict his breathing should have been noticed and corrected withing the first minutes of him wearing it. I know it looked cool when he opened his mouth and scared the kids in the car, but no nostril holes was totally unrealistic and a stupid mistake for all the PhDs in that lab.

It amazes me that these little things find their way through the production of the movie... it also amazes me that something so small can annoy me so much.

Any examples you would like to share?
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:58 PM
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As an example of my last one, I would like to nominate "Hollow Man" as having one of the most annoying mistakes that took me out of the movie that I can remember.

When Kevin Bacon is invisible, and they make the latex covering for his face, they cut out holes for his eyes and mouth. But not for his nostrils. are you kidding me? A form fitting latex mask is going to be a hot item to begin with, but to restrict his breathing should have been noticed and corrected withing the first minutes of him wearing it. I know it looked cool when he opened his mouth and scared the kids in the car, but no nostril holes was totally unrealistic and a stupid mistake for all the PhDs in that lab.....
Any examples you would like to share?
Sure. Same movie. Same latex mask. What happens to Bacon's hair?? His mop should have become an ungodly mix of hair and dried latex. Instead, his coated cranium is smooth, and the mask apparently slips on and off easily, as if Bacon is bald.

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Old 03-31-2012, 01:48 PM
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How does he see? If he's transparent, and his eyeballs are transparent, then the lens of his eye can't focus light that comes through it; light is streaming through his eye from every direction. His rods and cones are being bombarded with way too much signal. He should be blind.
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Old 03-31-2012, 02:04 PM
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How does he see? If he's transparent, and his eyeballs are transparent, then the lens of his eye can't focus light that comes through it; light is streaming through his eye from every direction. His rods and cones are being bombarded with way too much signal. He should be blind.
On another thought while he is invisible, are his dead cells invisible? Then we should see his hair and the upper layer of his skin and nails.

Ok lets assume even his dead cells are invisible, how come we don't see the food and liquid he consumes? We should see an outline of his digestive system and urinary tract and bladder.
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Old 03-31-2012, 02:27 PM
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Ok lets assume even his dead cells are invisible, how come we don't see the food and liquid he consumes? We should see an outline of his digestive system and urinary tract and bladder.
Showing the invisible man as a walking pile of crap in all its various stages brings new meaning to the movie term "gross profit".
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Old 03-31-2012, 03:48 PM
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Showing the invisible man as a walking pile of crap in all its various stages brings new meaning to the movie term "gross profit".
If I remember correctly, HG Wells had his original Invisible Man remain hidden for an hour or so after eating until the stomach contents were digested. I doubt it would be quite so simple as that, but at least he tried to address that particular detail.

As long as we're nitpicking Hollow Man.....

when they bring the gorilla back from invisibility, she gradually becomes visible from the inside out, as her heart pumps the elixer throughout her system. But later, when Mr. Bacon is rendered invisible as his heart circulates the potion, he gradually becomes invisible from the outside in.

The special effects are wonderful fun, but it really is a ridiculous movie, riddled with logical errors and plot holes.
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Old 03-31-2012, 02:35 PM
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How does he see? If he's transparent, and his eyeballs are transparent, then the lens of his eye can't focus light that comes through it; light is streaming through his eye from every direction. His rods and cones are being bombarded with way too much signal. He should be blind.
Actually, the rods and cones are transparent, too, so light goes right through them, too. Blinder than a bat.

As an aside, this is why I've abandoned my experiments into a safe, marketable Invisibility Serum (well, that, and the fact that sneaking into the girls' locker room has been fading as my primary goal in life since I started my lab work in 7th grade).
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Old 03-31-2012, 02:53 PM
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Actually, the rods and cones are transparent, too, so light goes right through them, too. Blinder than a bat.

As an aside, this is why I've abandoned my experiments into a safe, marketable Invisibility Serum (well, that, and the fact that sneaking into the girls' locker room has been fading as my primary goal in life since I started my lab work in 7th grade).
"If I can't make myself invisible, I'll make the girls blind!"
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Old 03-31-2012, 03:49 PM
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"If I can't make myself invisible, I'll make the girls blind!"
Unless I go blind first, thinking about being invisible in the girls' shower.

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Old 04-03-2012, 12:14 PM
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How does he see? If he's transparent, and his eyeballs are transparent, then the lens of his eye can't focus light that comes through it; light is streaming through his eye from every direction. His rods and cones are being bombarded with way too much signal. He should be blind.
If they were going to worry about that they might as well not make the movie. You just have to relax and go with it when you are watching a movie. Any correct science in a movie is an accident.
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:50 PM
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In Jaws 3 one scene involves our two heroes searching the lagoon for a body in an open submersible. They decide to leave the sub and look in a ship to see if the body wound up inside. To do this they use what appear to be two spare air cylinders combined into one unit. To those of you not familiar a spare air cylinder is a small approximately 3 cubic foot tank used for redundancy. The problem here is the amount of air, 6 cubic feet of air would last someone with a reasonably low breathing rate about 12 minutes on the surface. I don't remember if they ever say the depth of the lagoon in the film but I wager it's at least 60 feet deep.

Assuming 66 ft. for simplicity those canisters would be worth about 4.5 minutes of air, slightly longer for the girl. That is of course assuming that they remain calm, which would not be the case when a gigantic killer shark was trying to eat you, so you can bet they're breathing a touch heavy. If they thought they might leave the sub why not just bring a couple of tanks with them? The spares would be for an emergency, and even then they would probably not be sufficient if such an emergency were to occur.

Then again SCUBA is rarely portrayed with any degree of accuracy in film.
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Old 03-31-2012, 03:55 PM
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Is this just about Hollow Man or any movie? If it's the latter, I would like to submit The Core. All of it. Even the credits were of dubious believability.
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Old 03-31-2012, 04:21 PM
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I've noticed that many people resent me making this observation, but E.T.: the Extra-Terrestrial is premised on one enormous plot hole.

In the first few minutes of the film, E.T. is one of many members of a landing party exploring Earth. Then the faceless government agents show up, corner E.T. and he is prevented from getting back to his ship in time. He gets back to the touch-down point a few minutes too late and must watch helplessly as the already departed ship ascends into the sky, about ten feet above him. A mother-like figure looks down on him forlornly, as if shrugging and saying "sorry, but..."

Fast forward about an hour or so, and Elliot is taking E.T. on a midnight outing on his bike. An impatient E.T. decides that the bike just isn't fast enough, so he telekinetically lifts the bike, Elliot & himself off the ground and they fly through the air, silhouetted in a big full moon. Still later, E.T. telekinetically lifts Eliott, Eliott's brother, and half a dozen neighborhood kids (and all their bikes) off the ground and they all majestically fly miles above the ground. They look down in wonder at their suburban California neighborhood (miles and miles of houses with swimming pools) into the nearby redwood forest to meet up with the UFO once again.

Soooooo, if E.T. is capable of making himself fly miles and miles above the ground - why the hell couldn't he just fly up to the ship a mere ten feet above him in the first scene of the movie?
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Old 04-01-2012, 06:03 PM
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Is this just about Hollow Man or any movie? If it's the latter, I would like to submit The Core. All of it. Even the credits were of dubious believability.
All movies. I didn't realize Hollow Man would be as annoying to others as it is to me.

As for the eyelids being invisible, they do address that in that he always has to have his eyes covered because light will always be able to get in. Except in a completely dark room of course.

Thanks for all the other notes on Hollow Man. I especially like TreacherousCretin pointing out the hair issue on the latex mask.

As far as other movies, I'll toss another one that annoys me to no end. Apollo 13. A great movie to see in the theaters once, but once you see it a million times on TV or video, you can see a few flaws that got by post production....

One part of Apollo 13 that they screwed up on was when they were talking about Lovell going into gimbel lock, he swears about pointing out the obvious while he's on a hot mike. Bill Paxton reacts as if he already knows the mike is open when he says "Roger Houston", but then he reacts like he doesn't know when they tell him the mike is open and apologizes. I know it's a small thing. but I hate Bill Paxton, and everything he does annoys me. So when he screws up, I probably notice it more than most people.

It also bugs me that the simulator that Gary Sinese is in for days is built so he is on his back the entire time. There is no reason for the simulator to be built like that. When the Apollo craft is in space, there won't be any issue with the discomfort of laying on his back.... and the movie shows they find him about an hour after the accident, so he's basically laying on his back flipping switches for 2+ days. If that was how the sim was really set up, what a stupid design. I figure it was for movie drama to make the guy look as uncomfortable as possible.

Finally, when they get the re-entry procedures, the first thing they do (when power is such a critical thing), is flip the lights on in the CM. I don't know if it was pitch black in there, since the movie implied there was enough light to see, but it sure seemed like a stupid thing to waste power on and put on first when they had to get the computer up and the parachutes heated, etc.

Ron Howard movies can never be watched more than a couple of times before they fail in many different ways for me.
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:35 AM
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[open spoilers for The Notebook herein]:

It's not a movie that falls apart entirely (the story in the past is a passable romance), but the contortions that The Notebook goes through to hide "the secret identity" of the present-day character get really annoying. The worst, for me is the 'new doctor' who examines Noah. Somehow he's been around long enough to refer to Allie by her maiden name (and yes, she changed it, according to the credits) — but when talking directly and in private to her husband he keeps it up. I can't see that, if it were to happen in real life, as anything other than incredibly rude (either he insults him to his face or he doesn't bother to know his patients' names).
My contention remains that given how much wasted effort went into 'concealing' his name from not just her but other characters, the movie is made immeasurably better if you simply change Garner's role to the other guy. It would make sense if Noah had abandoned her years ago, and this poor soul was just happy to maintain her delusion that he is him.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:09 AM
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I remeber one lazy Saturay afternoon I was watching Sy Fy's Grendel. It was set in sometime like the 7th or 8th century.

At one point in the movie, an alarm goes off over the PA system. A system that was powered by electicity.

I mean, come on guys. I know y'all have a limited budget but that was frick'n rediculous.
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:20 PM
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I remeber one lazy Saturay afternoon I was watching Sy Fy's Grendel. It was set in sometime like the 7th or 8th century.

At one point in the movie, an alarm goes off over the PA system. A system that was powered by electicity.

I mean, come on guys. I know y'all have a limited budget but that was frick'n rediculous.
Was that the one that was in some kind of post-apocalyptic pseudo-early-medieval setting? If so, then some electricity is at least, well, remotely justifiable.
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Old 03-31-2012, 04:32 PM
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i kinda though it was the "loving connection" with the boy that allowed E.T. to use those powers. by himself he couldnt do it.

just like when E.T. "died". when the kid comes for him his heart starts beating again.

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Old 03-31-2012, 04:34 PM
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Actually, one of the bigger flaws with Hollow Man is why the government is funding the project at all - making soldiers invisible is of absolutely no tactical value unless you just want to send them in naked.

Though perhaps dropping a few hundred invisible and enraged gorillas on the enemy...
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:25 AM
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Actually, one of the bigger flaws with Hollow Man is why the government is funding the project at all - making soldiers invisible is of absolutely no tactical value unless you just want to send them in naked.
Well, one spy here, a lone assassin there; it starts to add up, right?
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:26 AM
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With Hollow Man, I pretty much knew what I was dealing with when Elizabeth Shue got woken up in the middle of the night, and her hair was perfect.

Flatliners: There was a scene when all the medical students were having a discussion, and one of them was videotaping the rest. When each one spoke, the camera went to that person's face. But the camera went to their face before they began speaking. I guess that the camera operator had a copy of the script!

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Old 04-03-2012, 03:56 PM
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Though perhaps dropping a few hundred invisible and enraged gorillas on the enemy...
Someone should make a movie about that.
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Old 03-31-2012, 04:36 PM
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Well, duh. ET can't lift himself, he can only lift bicycles. Now, why the alien exploratory party is not issued bicycles as standard equipment is a logical follow-up question, and a legitimate plot hole.
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Old 03-31-2012, 05:55 PM
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My favorite hole from the swiss cheese that was Indiana Jones And The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull: The final room with all the skulls in it could only be opened by holding up the skull to a little spot in the door to unlock it. So how did the first person that stole that skull get in there the first time?
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:57 AM
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Soooooo, if E.T. is capable of making himself fly miles and miles above the ground - why the hell couldn't he just fly up to the ship a mere ten feet above him in the first scene of the movie?
Easy explanation.

[fanwank]He didn't have an energy source. When he lifted the various bicycles, all of the them were already moving, with the kids pushing the pedals. He converted the kinetic energy of that, along with their forward momentum, into the energy he used to fly them through the air. When the ship took off, it was just him, with no place to grab the kinetic energy he needed for conversion. Not to mention, the bloody door was closed. Grabbing the outside of a ship headed for space with no idea if anyone would notice you before vacuum did a number on you would probably not be the best idea. After all, they took off without noticing he wasn't there.[/fanwank]
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:36 PM
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My favorite hole from the swiss cheese that was Indiana Jones And The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull: The final room with all the skulls in it could only be opened by holding up the skull to a little spot in the door to unlock it. So how did the first person that stole that skull get in there the first time?
Skeleton key?
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:50 PM
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I remeber one lazy Saturay afternoon I was watching Sy Fy's Grendel. It was set in sometime like the 7th or 8th century.

At one point in the movie, an alarm goes off over the PA system. A system that was powered by electicity.

I mean, come on guys. I know y'all have a limited budget but that was frick'n rediculous.
A "Best Picture" Oscar winner falls into this mistake. Our habit of using electricity, apparently, is hard break for film makers.

In Gone With The Wind, Melanie picks up a lamp with an apparent electric cord attached when the carry Ashley into a room. Probably just easier to find that prop by stealing it from someone's desk on the set.

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With Hollow Man, I pretty much knew what I was dealing with when Elizabeth Shue got woken up in the middle of the night, and her hair was perfect.
More HM. I like Elizabeth Shue, in fact I find her rather attractive. However, whoever came up with that hair cut/dress combo for their night of celebration should be shot and dragged out of Hollywood. If you ever see it again, it is in the beginning of the movie, and she is leaving the eating area of the restaurant to get some air with Bacon. Her butt looks massive in the vertically-lined dress. Beyond massive. And that short hair cut didn't work on her head at all.

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Kickboxer which I happened to catch on Encore this weekend. I know, I know nitpicking a movie like Kickboxer is like shooting fish in a barrel. But one thing I found myself wondering about is why do the two brothers have completely different accents.

Anyway, the one brother has a straight-up American accent, while the brother played by JCVD has, of course, a Belgian accent. So was he adopted, or did he just grew up in a different part of the world from his brother?
My first "accent film" was "The Parent Trap", with Haley Mills. One girl is supposed to live in California, the other in Boston, and they both speak with an Australian accent.


Apocalypto - I like this movie somewhat, and yet there are so many things wrong with it.

1) the most glaring issue is the day/night/day non-stop chase scene which covers most of the second half of the movie. Jaguar Paw literally runs full speed the entire time... with an arrow wound in his side, no less.

2) He is initially chased by 7 warriors into the jungle.. and his only rest is when he climbs into a tree with a black jaguar and her cub. He happens to land in between them, but you see the men chasing him pass under him. They realize he's in the trees and head back to look for him when he is seen sprinting through the jungle with the jaguar hot on his tail. Right when the jaguar leaps to kill him, one of the warriors gets in the way and Jaguar Paw escapes. Still running full bore. And apparently, he decides that hiding in a tree, or making a sharp right or left and running in that direction for a while is just stupid. He apparently makes a straight line sprint through the jungle, presumably to get back to his part of the jungle.

3) the chasing and hunting of Jaguar Paw continues through the night, as the warriors carry torches. JP apparently doesn't need one, as he's out in front, running blind in the jungle.

4) when he finally goes over the waterfall and comes up on the bank, he dares the others to follow him. This is because he is in his forest now, and he knows it like the back of his hand. He's surprised that they indeed follow him. He then inexplicably runs straight into an open oil pool. The others that follow him somehow don't fall into the oil pool, but are still on the path of JP when JP comes out of nowhere holding a large hornets nest in a big leaf, covered with oil. Do they through any weapons at him? Of course not. They let JP throw the hive, which explodes and causes the warriors to flee in all directions to escape the stinging insects.

5) I thought that this would have given JP the time he needed to get away, but it doesn't. He decides instead to kill as many as he can, and shoots a slow runner in the neck with poison darts. He was able to run in a large circle and conceal himself to get into the perfect position to shoot the darts. The warriors never picked up his trail that he had turned and ended up behind them.

6) JP goes on the offensive, killing the two largest antagonists in the movie, but not before taking another hit with a spear, this time in the shoulder. He also gets hit in the skull with a club, causing skull bleeding and head trauma.

7) Finally, the last two warriors chase him to the ocean, where they fail to kill him because the Spanish happen to be landing at that exact moment.

If I were one of those last two warriors, I'd have bopped him upside the head with a club. I chased him for 2 days without sleep, food or water. And now, as the spanish approach, they walk right past JP.

AUGH!
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Old 04-10-2012, 03:51 PM
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Ok - last one for a while

Clearly I watch too many movies.

Biloxi Blues - remember the big weekend, when the one soldier got 62 dollars stolen from his open footlocker?

Well, the sgt. Took it, because the guy left his foot locker unlocked.

When they came back from the big weekend, Jerome finds his notebook missing. Turns out, the guy that left his footlocker unlocked (and who's bed and foot locker are right next to Jeromes) notices that Jerome left HIS foot lover unlocked. Same weekend, same everything. I guess the sarge didn.t notice the guy 's foot locker next to the one he found unlocked was unlocked too. And apparently had been for some time, as jerome admitted to leaving it unlocked because he lost the key down the shower drain .

This stuff drives me batty.

For anyone still reading this thread, I usually don't notice most of these things in the first viewing. So if I like a movie and watch it again, that's when I start noticing things and picking it apart. And once that starts, there seems to be no end to the mistakes made.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:03 AM
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I've only seen bits and pieces of Signs, but am I to understand that the aliens are vulnerable to water? Did they do any research before the invasion?
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:22 AM
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I've only seen bits and pieces of Signs, but am I to understand that the aliens are vulnerable to water? Did they do any research before the invasion?
That whole movie was a metaphor. It was not meant to be taken literally.

It was about a guy and his troubled relationship with god.
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:27 PM
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I've only seen bits and pieces of Signs, but am I to understand that the aliens are vulnerable to water? Did they do any research before the invasion?
Apparently not. They also can't open doors.

My usual pet peeve is in it too. When your kid has asthma that bad, you give him preventative medicine so that he doesn't have attacks. And you could at least learn how to operate the damn inhaler. Big Bang Theory is the only thing ever to get this right. There's even a movie (which name I've forgotten) where some guy uses it underwater as a respirator. They're not waterproof.
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Old 04-03-2012, 11:15 AM
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There's even a movie (which name I've forgotten) where some guy uses it underwater as a respirator. They're not waterproof.
HAH! Forget waterproof they aren't filled with oxygen, they are filled with propellent and meds.
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Old 04-03-2012, 11:47 AM
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My usual pet peeve is in it too. When your kid has asthma that bad, you give him preventative medicine so that he doesn't have attacks. And you could at least learn how to operate the damn inhaler. Big Bang Theory is the only thing ever to get this right. There's even a movie (which name I've forgotten) where some guy uses it underwater as a respirator.
I believe that was a Simpsons episode, actually. Bart uses Milhouse's inhaler to explore the sunken school bus.
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:17 PM
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My usual pet peeve is in it too. When your kid has asthma that bad, you give him preventative medicine so that he doesn't have attacks. And you could at least learn how to operate the damn inhaler. Big Bang Theory is the only thing ever to get this right. There's even a movie (which name I've forgotten) where some guy uses it underwater as a respirator. They're not waterproof.
Anyone with asthma should be pretty offended by The Goonies. During the whole movie, Mikey is using an inhaler. At the end, when he finally "mans up", he decides he doesn't need it anymore.

Asthma is for wussies, apparently.
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:36 PM
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Anyone with asthma should be pretty offended by The Goonies. During the whole movie, Mikey is using an inhaler. At the end, when he finally "mans up", he decides he doesn't need it anymore.

Asthma is for wussies, apparently.
There is a similar plot(overcoming asthma with badassery) in King's IT, although I think there whether the kid actually had asthma or not was in doubt(there was a scene that suggested it was a placebo because of his overbearing hypochondriac mother).

It is still ridiculous though, I have asthma and I constantly get people thinking its because I am over emotional or something. Like most asthma patients emotions have nothing to do with it, it is triggered by allergies.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:41 AM
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How about True Lies - when Arnie breaks in to the house to get access to the files on the computer - shows the Windows Logo and starts with the Mac sound - after all this time it still gets me
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Old 04-05-2012, 10:52 AM
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Kickboxer which I happened to catch on Encore this weekend. I know, I know nitpicking a movie like Kickboxer is like shooting fish in a barrel. But one thing I found myself wondering about is why do the two brothers have completely different accents.

For those of you who haven't seen it, the movie revolves around two brothers, one of which is paralyzed in a kickboxing match. Jean Claude Van Damme plays the other brother, who is seeking revenge on the fighter responsible for the paralyzing.

Anyway, the one brother has a straight-up American accent, while the brother played by JCVD has, of course, a Belgian accent. So was he adopted, or did he just grew up in a different part of the world from his brother?

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Old 04-05-2012, 11:08 AM
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Anyway, the one brother has a straight-up American accent, while the brother played by JCVD has, of course, a Belgian accent. So was he adopted, or did he just grew up in a different part of the world from his brother?
Pssst Ahhhnold's whole career has been one unlikely accent after another.
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:17 AM
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Kickboxer which I happened to catch on Encore this weekend. I know, I know nitpicking a movie like Kickboxer is like shooting fish in a barrel. But one thing I found myself wondering about is why do the two brothers have completely different accents.

For those of you who haven't seen it, the movie revolves around two brothers, one of which is paralyzed in a kickboxing match. Jean Claude Van Damme plays the other brother, who is seeking revenge on the fighter responsible for the paralyzing.

Anyway, the one brother has a straight-up American accent, while the brother played by JCVD has, of course, a Belgian accent. So was he adopted, or did he just grew up in a different part of the world from his brother?
I have never seen this movie because I cannot stand Van Damme but the answer seems simple to me though admittedly it has two parts. The essential reason is that the director and or screenwriter wanted a way to distinguish between the brothers. The reason in terms of the story is that one of the brothers moved to America and decided that he wanted to lose his Belgian accent and so went to a vocal coach. This is not uncommon especially for people who take jobs in television and whatnot. The brother with the thicker accent didn't want to change his voice for whatever reason which is reasonable because even identical twins develop different attitudes over time especially because they often want to differentiate themselves from one another.
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:30 PM
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Kickboxer which I happened to catch on Encore this weekend. I know, I know nitpicking a movie like Kickboxer is like shooting fish in a barrel. But one thing I found myself wondering about is why do the two brothers have completely different accents.
Much like the made-for-TV Jesus. Jesus was American, Mary was British, and Joseph was Greek. And I'm sorry, I just don't see Jacqueline Bisset as a virgin.
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:11 PM
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Very minor but ...

Flatliners: Julia Roberts wearing a bra while getting shocked. Not because I want to see her boobs (in fact they wouldn't have to show them) but after The Abyss and AED training where this exact issue came up, it takes me right out of the movie.

Final Destination: So apparently John Denver is the only singer to die in a plane crash? What about Jim Croche's "Time in a Bottle" or Buddy Holly's "That'll Be the Day"
You could also have Patsy Cline, JP Richardson, Ritchie Valens, Otis Redding, Ricky Nelson, Ronnie van Zant and Stevie Ray Vaughn songs in the movie.

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Just saw Hitman last night, and oh dear is it full of stupidity. First of all, they all belong to a secret organization that exists outside any country that trains secret assassins. All of these secret assassins have shaved heads, and have identical UPC tattoos on the backs of their heads.

But the most ridiculous scene in the movie involves the hero getting attacked by three assassins. One guy shows up, so he points his guns at him. Another guy shows up, so he points a gun at each of them. A third guy shows up...

...and all four of them form a circle and point their guns at each other, Mexican Standoff style. Why are the three assassins now pointing their guns at one another, rather than all pointing their guns at the man they were sent to kill? Then they all put their guns down and pull out swords and...you know what? Just don't see it.
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Old 04-10-2012, 05:31 PM
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Once again, Rise of the Planet of the Apes
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Since it is out on Pay-Per View and DVD, I will forgo the spoilers.

Ahem......

Have the producers, director, writers ever heard of science??? It goes into sci-fi stereotype BS right away.

Science guy's father has terrible disease. Science guy works tirelessly to cure that disease.

Science guy gets remarkable results with ONE test subject and declares victory and wants to start with human trials.

That ONE test subject freaks out and based on that ONE example, the higher ups shelve the project.

Nobody watched that ONE test subject closely enough to notice that is was pregnant, and had in fact just given birth to live young. I guess checking the subject's vital signs regulary during a drug trial was too much trouble.

Science guy gives experimental drug to father, who has remarkable results. He tells no one for 5 years, untl after 'cure' has started to fail. This causes him panic, as if alzheimer's sufferers and their families wouldn't give every dime they could beg, borrow or inheret for 5 more good years.

Later, they have another remarkable advance with ONE subject and want to make this the focus of all their efforts. ONE GODDAAMNED SUBJECT.

Ceasar is wearing pants throughout most of the film. Even after he in custody and placed in an animal shelter with other chimps. He is still wearing pants.
OK, I can go along with him being 'house-broken', but he is an animal in a single pair of pants for months on end in a room with no 'toilet' long after an intelligent creature would have realized that wearing pants was not nessasary.

Why did science guy not get concerned that chimp handler is sneezing blood after being exposed to experimental drug???
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I freely admit I may be missing something about John Carter, and please understand that I have never read the books, but here's one thing that made no sense to me. Warning: spoilers aplenty.



1. John Carter accidentally projects a copy of himself to Mars, leaving his originally body prone and helpless back on Earth.

2. John Carter starts to disrupt the well-laid plans of the Bald Teleporting Guys, who eventually try to kill him when his meddling gets too serious.

3. The Bald Teleporting Guys can seemingly teleport from Earth to Mars and back again at will; they have extremely advanced tech courtesy of the Mysterious Blue Energy.

So why on Earth (or Mars), during all the time John Carter was gallivanting around fighting arena battles and starting uprisings and impressing the ladies, did the Bald Teleporting Guys not simply teleport to the cave where John Carter's helpless body lay, and drop a heavy rock on his head?
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I freely admit I may be missing something about John Carter, and please understand that I have never read the books, but here's one thing that made no sense to me. Warning: spoilers aplenty.



1. John Carter accidentally projects a copy of himself to Mars, leaving his originally body prone and helpless back on Earth.

2. John Carter starts to disrupt the well-laid plans of the Bald Teleporting Guys, who eventually try to kill him when his meddling gets too serious.

3. The Bald Teleporting Guys can seemingly teleport from Earth to Mars and back again at will; they have extremely advanced tech courtesy of the Mysterious Blue Energy.

So why on Earth (or Mars), during all the time John Carter was gallivanting around fighting arena battles and starting uprisings and impressing the ladies, did the Bald Teleporting Guys not simply teleport to the cave where John Carter's helpless body lay, and drop a heavy rock on his head?
I haven't seen the movie so this probably isn't the case, but in the books John only "teleports" when he dies. He dies in the cave at the beginning and winds up on mars, then dies on mars trying to save it and goes back to earth. There he wonders what came of mars and interacts with the narrator. Finally after dying of natural causes on earth he ends up back on mars for the sequels.
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Old 04-10-2012, 07:29 PM
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My favorite continuity error is from "Pretty Woman". Julia Roberts has just woken up from spending the night in Richard Gere's penthouse hotel room. She's wandering around a table eating breakfast, which in one moment is a croissont and the next minute is a pancake.
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Mine is the Darkest Hour, which I recently watched.

SPOILER:
1.) The five main characters are locked in storage room for 5 days. This room has no bathroom in it. At the end of the 5 days, the 3 guys are still clean shaven, the womens hair is still perfectly styled, and none of the clothes aired stained, wrinkled, dusty, or any other such thing.

2. Same room. There's a dead body wrapped up in plain sight. No one comments on it at all. Sure, you just saw a bunch of people vaporized, but I would think people would still be a bit creeped out over a dead body.

3. The aliens vaporize people. Think vampire deaths in Buffy. All the clothes are destroyed in the process, except for 1 shoe. Always one shoe goes flying away, while everything else is vaporized.

4. Electrical devices become active and overpowered by the mere presence of these aliens. So much so that an electric bus can reach full speed just by one being on it. Yet at a critical moment, the batteries in the only weapon that can hurt the aliens goes dead, and won't power up.

5. The aliens traveled from god knows where to steal copper and other conductive metals. Of all the planets, asteroids, moons, and stars out there without life, Earth is the only planet they can choose this for?

6. The main characters are from America, stuck in Russia, yet every survivor they run into can speak fluent english, with only a slight accent.


I'm sure there's more, but I eventually stopped paying the movie any attention.
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