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Old 04-12-2012, 11:59 AM
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We need to relocate Washington DC. Where?

It's December of 2012. The Second Korean War has just ended. The North Korean government collapsed after Pyongyang got nuked, but it turns out that North Korea had a couple of ballistic missle subs that we didn't know about. In a related note, Washington DC is now an irradiated wasteland, off-limits to human habitation for at least the next couple of decades. The president (I'll take a pass on whether this is Obama, Romney, or whoever) has asked you to make a recommendation on where the new capitol should be placed. What do you tell him?
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:04 PM
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Omaha. It's where we send the POTUS in case of an attack anyway, so it must be pretty safe.
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:14 PM
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At the very least you want to stay away from the Forbidden Zone, there's Fleshy-headed myootants there and radiation has made them an enemy of civilization! Find another place to build a capital for your children. Maybe Saskatoon, because who'd look there?
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:17 PM
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New York City, as God intended.
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Old 04-12-2012, 01:14 PM
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New York City, as God intended.
Noooo! We have enough tsouris here with the damn UN!
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Old 04-12-2012, 01:23 PM
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The bottom of the Marianas Trench.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:03 AM
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At the very least you want to stay away from the Forbidden Zone, there's Fleshy-headed myootants there...
The proper term for them is "Congressmen".
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:44 PM
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At the very least you want to stay away from the Forbidden Zone, there's Fleshy-headed myootants there and radiation has made them an enemy of civilization! Find another place to build a capital for your children. Maybe Saskatoon, because who'd look there?
{Two ape leaders talking:}

"What?! You can't go follow the humans! They entered the Forbidden Zone!"

"You can't forbid me from going there! I forbid it!"

"You can't forbid me form forbidding you from entering the Forbidden Zone!!!"

- This is based on a snippet of dialogue from Mad Magazine's take-off on the second episode of the original Planet of the Apes series.

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Old 04-12-2012, 12:24 PM
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Omaha. It's where we send the POTUS in case of an attack anyway, so it must be pretty safe.
Are you thinking of Operation Looking Glass?

Personally, I think we should also be looking towards the center of the country. Having the capital so close to the coast seems foolhardy. I'd think Denver would be a great choice, and plus, we can send all the conspiracy theorists even more bonkers.
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:26 PM
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How about Iowa? They could use the tourists. Cause nobody goes to Iowa on purpose now, do they?
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:28 PM
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Are you thinking of Operation Looking Glass?
Nope.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timelin...ber_11_attacks

2:50 pm, Bush arrives at Offutt AFB.
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Old 04-12-2012, 01:44 PM
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Nope.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timelin...ber_11_attacks

2:50 pm, Bush arrives at Offutt AFB.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Looking_Glass

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The Looking Glass was initiated by the U.S. Air Force's Strategic Air Command in 1961 and operated by the 34th Air Refueling Squadron, Offutt AFB, Nebraska.
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:21 PM
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The president (I'll take a pass on whether this is Obama, Romney, or whoever)
Nitpick: in December of 2012, Obama will be president regardless of the election's outcome.
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:24 PM
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Nitpick: in December of 2012, Obama will be president regardless of the election's outcome.
Well, technically, it could possibly be Biden--or even Boehner!
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:52 PM
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What do I tell him?

A good start Sir. Now we have cleared all the old politicians out we can elect new ones.

[one of the main problems with Washington is all the old blood taking up seats and not being willing to understand that just because they keep getting re-elected does not mean they understand what a majority of the population actually wants. Many people have given up voting because they see absolutely no change no matter who and how they vote.]

I say Omaha, or wherever that hardened governmental bunker happens to be. I also vote to make them live down in the bunker in an assigned apartment with their families, and there to be a school for the dependents, medical clinics and everything needed. They can all eat in the Governmental Chow Hall, shop in the Governmental Exchange Store, no added expense of needing to set up a home back in their constituancy, a home in DC, an office in DC - they get a housing unit that serves as house and office, and they take the underground tramway to work, no need for an expensive car.

And if they get seriously stupid, we flood the base with nitrogen after sneaking out the non-poilticians, wait until they stop squirming, send in the SKs and start all over again.
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Old 04-12-2012, 01:11 PM
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I nominate Memphis.
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Old 04-13-2012, 06:59 AM
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Nitpick: in December of 2012, Obama will be president regardless of the election's outcome.
You're assuming Obama survived the war. It might be the former Sec of Agriculture, or someone of that ilk. (OK, I forgot until it was too late that Romney couldn't be in office yet )

As for Texas, hell no between the hurricanes, summers straight out of the depths of Hell, and giant cockroaches, I'll happily stay up here. I like St. Louis for it's geographic center-ness. Maybe the Federal Government could purchase Missouri's bootheel as the new Federal District.
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:22 PM
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Washington DC is now an irradiated wasteland, off-limits to human habitation for at least the next couple of decades....
And this is different how? Oh, the radiation.

Vegas, Baby! Its already sufficiently sleazy.
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Old 04-12-2012, 02:28 PM
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Canada, the Marianas Trench, or a quarry....better yet.

The Executive branch goes to Fort Smith in the NWT, the judicial branch gets sent to The Trench, and the legislative branch gets the quarry.....could care less which quarry.
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:24 PM
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Canada? We don't want your politicians! Even your lefties are righties!

I pick Chattanooga Tennessee because it amuses me to think the federal capital could be in a place that a significant percentage of Americans might not be able to spell (this "fact" is based on no information whatsoever and is merely a friendly joke and amusement at the funny spelling of Chattanooga Tennessee)
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Old 04-12-2012, 07:40 PM
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I pick Chattanooga Tennessee because it amuses me to think the federal capital could be in a place that a significant percentage of Americans might not be able to spell (this "fact" is based on no information whatsoever and is merely a friendly joke and amusement at the funny spelling of Chattanooga Tennessee)
We have better infrastructure in Cincinnati and can't spell that either.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:46 PM
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Canada? We don't want your politicians! Even your lefties are righties!

I pick Chattanooga Tennessee because it amuses me to think the federal capital could be in a place that a significant percentage of Americans might not be able to spell (this "fact" is based on no information whatsoever and is merely a friendly joke and amusement at the funny spelling of Chattanooga Tennessee)
Fuck no. Keep them away.
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Old 04-12-2012, 07:37 PM
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I say we move it to Washington State, just to end the confusion for school children.
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:28 PM
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I say we move it to Washington State, just to end the confusion for school children.
There's some open land near Handford Site. They might feel right at home, too.
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Old 04-12-2012, 07:47 PM
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Well, if we can't have it in the irradiated husk of D.C., we'll put it in the irradiated husk of Pyongyang.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:22 PM
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Detroit. The city could use a lift.
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:31 PM
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Detroit. The city could use a lift.
Haven't the poor Micheganers suffered enough

On the other hand, it's a great idea. Nobody's left there ANYway, so...might as well.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:26 PM
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Denver. Let's move the capital from the first stupidest place to build a city to the second stupidest place.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:35 PM
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I was thinking St. Louis would probably be near the center of US population, and as it turns out it's pretty close. Put it there temporarily, and build a new DC nearby.

ETA: The Median center is in Southern Indiana. St. Louis isn't far from from that either.

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Old 04-12-2012, 09:15 PM
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I was thinking St. Louis would probably be near the center of US population, and as it turns out it's pretty close. Put it there temporarily, and build a new DC nearby.

ETA: The Median center is in Southern Indiana. St. Louis isn't far from from that either.
Hmm. It's large, de facto segregated, and has miserable summers. This could work.
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:33 PM
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I like the idea of New York. If we're lucky it'll get nuked again. In that scenario Philadelphia would also be a good choice, but only if we can find a way to make Independence Hall bombproof.

It would be a good idea given climate change to move it inland and south, so Texas it is. There's lots of room in West Texas, and if they can build a city in a malarial swamp they can build one in barren desert.
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:55 PM
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Truth or Consequences.

I actually like the idea some place like Des Moines, Omaha, Kansas City, even St. Louis. They're centrally located in the central time zone with good highway access, lots of cheap land around, would draw population away from the coasts.

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Old 04-12-2012, 10:47 PM
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The surface of the Sun.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:58 AM
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The surface of the Sun.
"But we can't send men to the Sun--it's too hot!"
"That's OK, we'll send 'em at night!"
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:18 PM
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Mexico. No one would think of looking there.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:11 AM
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Why not some place in South Dakota. So obscure, my senior year of high school, even Rand McNally couldn't place it on a map! Terrorists would never find us.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:33 AM
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Since it'd be likely that I went up with DC, I doubt I would be able to answer anything.
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:02 AM
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The geographical center of North Dakota.
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:42 AM
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To jump on one of my dad's bugaboos...

Decentralize it. Congress goes one place with the judiciary and the White House. But the federal departments can be spread around the country. Agriculture to Omaha. HHS to San Antonio. FBI to Chicago and so forth. I think it could work these days.
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Old 04-13-2012, 10:45 AM
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To jump on one of my dad's bugaboos...

Decentralize it. Congress goes one place with the judiciary and the White House. But the federal departments can be spread around the country. Agriculture to Omaha. HHS to San Antonio. FBI to Chicago and so forth. I think it could work these days.
Congress doesn't even go one place. They meet online.
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Old 04-13-2012, 11:42 AM
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I wouldn't name any existing large city, because it would be too hard to insert the "capitol infrastructure" into an existing city. Also, I would choose somewhere where three states meet, so there's no problem about just one state having to give up land.

My choice is near Cairo, Illinois, where Missouri, Illinois, and Kentucky meet; it's "in the east" (where most of the people are), but not too far east nor too far north or south; also, it's where two major rivers meet.

If you need an "interim" city, either St. Louis or Kansas City.

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Old 04-13-2012, 12:30 PM
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The population center of the United States is Plato, Missouri. That's a small village so not a good location for a national capital. But the city of Springfield, Missouri is close by, and has a nice all-American name.
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:36 PM
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Decentralize it. Congress goes one place with the judiciary and the White House. But the federal departments can be spread around the country. Agriculture to Omaha. HHS to San Antonio. FBI to Chicago and so forth. I think it could work these days.
I'm just imagining the scene where the UN has to sit the United States down and tell it the test results have come back - the government has metastasized and the United States should start getting its affairs in order.
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Old 04-13-2012, 10:41 AM
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The great Dismal swamp. Its close and its the same weather and terrain as DC. The founder fathers thought the capital should be in a God forsaken swamp, who are we to argue? Most of us won't even notice the change.
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:33 PM
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The great Dismal swamp. Its close and its the same weather and terrain as DC. The founder fathers thought the capital should be in a God forsaken swamp, who are we to argue? Most of us won't even notice the change.
No, no no. That just won't do. Every summer they'd be smoked out when the GDS catches fire, as it always does. Then we'd have smoked politicians!

And...now I'm hungry.
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