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What subjects would you need to study to qualify as a Superscientist?
By "Superscientist", I mean in the Rusty Venture/Hubert Farnsworth/1950s Sci-Fi Film Mad Inventor way, not the Albert Einstein/Alan Turing/Stephen Hawking vein.
So, let's pretend that Little Johnny Bloggs is about to turn 18 and is thinking about going to university. Not be a doctor or a lawyer or an HR representative, but something far cooler- a Superscientist. Little Johnny loves Science!* but has no idea what he should be studying to fufil his dream of becoming a Superscientist. Assuming for the purposes of this discussion there's a university that offers a generalist Bachelor of Superscience degree (and a postgraduate Doctorate in Superscience course, with optional majors in either Scientific Inventions or Supervillainy) what (ostensibly "serious" or "real") subjects should Little Johnny be considering in furtherance of his goal? *A distinct concept to conventional science, as it involves a lot of stuff about Atomic Power and Lasers and Walking Eyes and Robots. Just go and watch The Venture Bros; it sums the whole thing up pretty well. |
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The stereotypical mad scientist is much more of an engineer than a scientist, so engineering is definitely the right choice.
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To the OP: I think general engineering classes as a foundation: Statics, dynamics, thermodynamics, electricity and magnetism, fluid mechanics, material science, and computer programming (along with the standard chemistry, physics, and math pre-requisites.) Building from there, I think the mad scientist would take a more theoretical-science/engineering-research path based on interests (rather than standards-driven advanced engineering classes) but they would still need instruction in the following topics: organic-/bio-chemistry, non-newtonian mechanics, nuclear/quantum physics, optics/lasers, cryogenics, metallurgy, data communications/remote sensing/controls, geology, and psychology. They would probably need some instruction in finance as well, since research and development are too expensive to cover via petty theft (and they can't start small or they'll never achieve world domination, immortality, etc. in their lifetime). I was thinking they'd probably need some medical instruction, but then I decided that surgery for the mad scientist is more of a learn-by-doing topic. Skip speaking/writing classes (how will they be misunderstood if they can communicate clearly?) and ethics (obviously). Humanities and social sciences (with the exception of psychology) can also be neglected, unless needed to build negative character (how many mad scientists "found themselves" after being humiliated by non-scientist peers/bullies/girls?). |
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To give the OPs question a serous answer, let us imagine what fields of study one would need to master to master in order to pull off a typical bonna fide Mad Scientist Scheme™, such as building a 50' tall killer robot to wreak havoc on "The City ".
Let us further assume that in order to maintain the necessary level of secrecy to spring such a Mad Plan™ without being foiled by Cursed Do-Gooders™ first, that Dr. Mad™ needs to build this thing from scratch. Also, too many minions introduces the potential of security leaks, so we'll limit the "good" Doctor to a single "Igor" level lab assistant to help take care of the mundane things like cooking meals and keeping the place clean so he can focus on "The Science!" Mastery of structural engineering is obviously a must - if you're going to build something that big, it needs to not collapse under its own weight. Assuming there are no other giant killer robots already in production, he can't exactly order the parts he needs from Sears. Besides, that would also breach security. Ergo, he needs to order raw materials, like ore and scrap metal, and make the parts himself; so Dr. Mad™ needs to be a metallurgist, too. I'm assuming this thing is powered by electricity of some sort, so that means mastery of electrical engineering to set up all the wires and circuitry, right down to designing and building the circuit boards. Is he going to use a standard computer operating system to make this thing be able to "think" and obey commands? If not, now he needs to be an ace computer programmer. Since you cannot have a "killer" robot without them, we need weapons. For the sake of this example, we shall eschew the "cool" stuff like 1920's style death rays and laser beams on its frikkin' head. Ergo, we need modern munitions like rockets and mini-guns. So, he's now a weaponsmith. Even if we let him buy this stuff "off the rack" in way that lets him avoid the attention of the ATF, he still needs to be a master of configuring computerized weapons systems if he wants to have a prayer of hitting what he's aiming at. Since "a really big extension cable" is an obvious weakness anybody could exploit, we need a self-contained power source. And since no self-respecting Mad Scientist™ worth the ™ would settle for anything less than atomic power, he is now both a nuclear scientist and a nuclear engineer. So, we're looking at at least 6 independent fields of study he needs to have total mastery over in order to even get started on this project, and I'm likely missing at least 4 more in this quick summary. My guess is that Dr. Mad™ already has one foot in the grave by the time he has enough know-how to even get started on this project. Now all Dr. Mad™ needs is: a storage facility for all of his raw components, a factory with all the equipment and tools to make and assemble the parts, and enough privacy to avoid detection. Oh yeah... and a few billion dollars to afford it all. |
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Whoa! Wait a minute!
Are we talking short-tempered and pissed-off at the world "Mad" or psychologically unstable and possibly socio-pathological "Mad"? I think the rest of the responders here are talking about the "I'm going to play God and [make the world tremble before me | destroy the biosphere | manufacture my own intelligent beings | etc.] lunatic genius rather than just the kick-the-dog-because-the-wife-ran-off-with-the-plumber kind of low-life researcher. Quote:
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Or there was Isaac Asimov. Didn't he have PhD's in Physics, Chemistry, Astrophysics, Engineering, and Geology? His eccentricity was an obscure dabbling in science fiction writing. He really shows his mettle, though, in Beginnings and Atom.--G! On the road to good intentions ![]() Blown to hell by our own inventions ![]() ![]() . -- Tommy Shaw & James Young (Styx) . Heavy Water . Brave New World Last edited by Grestarian; 07-11-2012 at 09:40 PM. |
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I think you would want to be a physicist. But there would Erlenmayer flasks everywhere for some reason. Seems like they're always experimenting with food coloring.
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Death Ray Science
Anti-Matter Bomb Science Truth Beam (or Drug) Science Invisibility Science Anti-Gravity Science Teleportation Science Making Smoking Hot Chicks Fall in Love With You Science Time Travel Science Creating a Supernova Science Mind Control Science Zombie Creation Science |
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Robot Science Cloning Science Genetic Monster Science Restarting the Earth's Core Science |
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Toxic Acid Smoking Goo Science Godzilla Science (with a minor in Mothra or Rhodan Science) Destroying Tokyo Science Sea Monster Science Nuclear Reactor Core Meltdown Science Nuclear War Button Pushing Science Kidnapping the President Science Kicking Puppies and Kittens Science I'm sure there are a few more that I'm still missing. |
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What I was sort of hoping for (as well as the obvious, slightly silly suggestions) were "Real" subjects a would-be Superscientist could study.
Thus, mechanical engineering (to build Walking Eyes and Robots), Applied Atomic Science (because it's not Science! if it doesn't involve Atomic Energy somewhere), something to do with Lasers (how else does one acquire the knowledge and ability to construct Fricking Laser Beams™?), Principles of Management (to keep the underlings motivated), and so on. And for the slightly silly ones, I'd suggest Introduction to Maniacal Laughter (MWAHAHAHAHA!), Critical Analysis of Contemporary Science (FOOLS! They said it was madness to try and extract petroleum oil from maple syrup, BUT I SHOWED THEM! I SHOWED THEM ALL!), Ethics of Doomsday Devices (What would be the wider implications of weaponising the power of a Black Hole?), and The Hazards of Time Travel (A lesson in not changing History from Mr "I'm My Own Grandfather"). |
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(Working with a vocal coach can help.)
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Wicked laugh science also comes to mind; Coke-bottle glasses science Bad hair-do science might be not significant enough to matter. What-say the board? Allow mad-superscientists with nice hair, or not? |
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You are confused as to some of the disciplines here. Zombie Creation is not science; it's magic. Making Smoking Hot Chicks Fall In Love With You isn't science or magic; it's mojo. Mind Control can go either way. It always backfires anyway, though. Best avoided. [/Evil!Skald] Last edited by Skald the Rhymer; 07-12-2012 at 06:38 PM. |
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Plus you need one of those Jacob's Ladder things.
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A physicist is a good rough approximation for "all purpose scientist", but in fact most of the physics Ph.D.s I've known, including experimentalists, couldn't engineer their way out of a two foot deep hole. (The spare exceptions were people for whom physics was a second career, after doing something like building sailboats or running a farm.) If I had to single out a particular engineering discipline who would be most likely to have the skills imagined by the o.p. I would probably go for petroleum engineer, which mixes mechanical engineering, civil engineering, chemical engineering, mining engineering, and geophysics, along with a sampling of electrical engineering, statistics and data regression, thermodynamics, et cetera. How he will be able to determine that the aliens are from Zeta Reticuli based upon the previously unknown elements in their hull material alloy, however, is beyond a university education and can only come from the mind of a screenwriter. Stranger |
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A Mad Scientist really needs to be an Omnidisciplinary Scientist.
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While most other Sons Of Ether will tell you that the Matter Sphere is essential to Science, I specialize in Mind. Why spend all your time building a Columnating Thanatropic Projector (known as a 'death ray' to most folks), when you can build instead a EuHarmonic Pyschotropic Radiator (known as a 'love bomb')?
Remember 'Cogito, ergo sum' I think therefore I am.
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Plus you'll need a degree in English
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In terms of practicality I think the most likely route to world threatening mad sciencedom would be to study microbiology and molecular genetics to try to build a super virus that you could threaten the world with. These fields might also let you branch out in the direction of cloning and creating god forsaken hybrids that are against the laws of man and nature.
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I suspect most superscientists really are specialists, who just happen to dabble in other areas as a hobby. Roy Hinkley, for instance, seems to have been a chemist, who just happens to have a lot of other practical skills from his experience in Boy Scouts. And Kevyn Andreyasn specializes in wormhole dynamics, and only does explosives because they're fun.
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The Mad Scientist creed is "IBSU ergo sum" (I blow shit up, therefor I am)
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As a Scientist, I respectfully disagree.
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Are you a Mad Scientist?
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Let's consider the evidence-
I can project my consciousness from my body into the Digital Web to interact directly with the non corporeal consciousnesses of computer programs and other individuals. I have also traveled to what the average person would (mistakenly) call other dimensions. To whit- the Lower Stratum Of The QuantumEtheric Foam, inhabited by the NCCFs of those whose bodies have died, The Highest Stratum Of The QEF (a realm of ideas made manifest), the Low Stratum of the QEF (something of a reflection of our common world. Inhabited largely by non human consciousnesses and the Lupines). I have yet to penetrate The Middle Stratum, a realm of dreams and chaos. I have built- The EuHarmonic Pyschotropic Radiator, also known as the Love Bomb. This device does no damage. Instead, it causes all within the area to experience feelings of joy, brotherhood and good will. The Euharmonic Catalytic Converter. This device is an alternative energy source. It runs on hatred and emits curiosity. I got my degree in Ether Psychology from a college hidden underneath The Franklin Institute and accessible only to those with Actualized NCCFs. So, you tell me. |
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If you've created a "Love Bomb", you are not Mad enough. Mad Scientists want terrified slaves or Zombified slaves, not happy ones. Also, a Mad Scientist would create a machine that outputs hatred, not uses it up as fuel.
I know Mad Scientists, and you, sir, are no Mad Scientist. But perhaps you are a Nomad Scientist -- do you travel from town to town striking awe into the hearts of the simple peasants? |
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I am so sick of the stereotype that all Mad Scientists are evil!
Captain Nemo, Dr Jekyll, even Doctor Frankenstein were all working for the betterment of humanity. |
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Actually, Dr. Jekyll just wanted to get down with his own bad self.
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I'm onto Doc Cathode's scheme. A love bomb will cause uncontrollable desires to love one another and just plain feel good, distracting us from eptty concerns like our bank accounts.
Doc then projects his consciousness into the internet and then into the entire world's bank acocunts, which he then transfers into an alternate dimension. Economic collapse follows since everyone's bank accounts are empty of their imaginary credits, most of the world starves as a result, and the Euharmonic catalytic converter is blowing gaskets in overdrive as Doc cuts loose with a wicked laugh. With all that power, Doc delivers modified love bombs that cause everyone to love only him. They few survivors elect Doc God and he rules the world. Don't trust all that innocence he's trying to fool you with. He just wants to recruit you for majorly underpaid and abused lackey positions he has available here and there to get his plan in motion. Mad scientists are all the same, evil to the bone, and they all have crazy hairdos. Last edited by David42; 06-05-2012 at 01:28 AM. |
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I don't have lackeys. I have Assistants. Sadly, my last Assistant was killed in a battle with Nazi zombies. You continue to live in freedom thanks to Quentin's noble sacrifice. Quote:
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You need some Romco Mad Scientist Hair Gel, that is plainly obvious. Last edited by David42; 06-06-2012 at 11:48 AM. |
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Only a Scientist can truly enjoy blinkenlights*. But every body can derive some fun from them Quote:
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* Blinkenlights is the actual technical term for the many indicator lights on old computers. Really. |
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When you get some Romco Mad Scientist Hair Gel and try it out, you'll understand. This is part of your evil plan somehow, but I haven't figured out how yet. |
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The rest of you might enjoy Blinkenlights, but I enjoy them on a higher level.
I'm seriously offended though. If you just got to know those of us who suffer from Malign Hypercognition Syndrome, you wouldn't repeat these hateful stereotypes. And if I may, all this talk of "Death Rays" and "Time Machines" is typical of the amateurs back at the Academy who couldn't appreciate my genius. Fools. Someday they will...where was I? Oh yes, the highest aspiration of the true scientist is the creation of life Ex Nihilo. In fact, I have recently perfected my own race of Atomic Supermen. You probably haven't heard of them, they're kind of obscure. |
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Well, and then there's Lex Luthor . . .
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And Dr Thaddeus Bodog Sivanna.
I think a degree in Applied Physics would be a start.
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Slight hijack, but who would qualify IRL for superscientist described as is in OP's original post? Not evil one per se, but clearly with IQx2, at least profoundly eccentric if not clearly mad and with some serious scientific references? Tesla? Jobs? von Braun? da Vinci?
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Lowell Wood might count. Engineering background? Check. Wacky ideas? He invented the anti-mosquito laser. Type "Can Dr. Evil Save The World?" into your favorite search engine, and see for yourself. I think he's about as close to the Mad Scientist/Superscience Inventor as reality is likely to produce. To the OP's question: physics is always the starting point, because so much of everything else is really just physics. Decades ago when I was in high school, they offered classes in physics and chemistry, but if you wanted to take Honors level classes, they combined physics and chemistry into one two-year course, because there is so much crossover there. |
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I want a handheld bimbofication beam.
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Engineering alone seems like enough to be a good supervillain. Dr. Doom was the best supervillain anyway.
Math and physics are integral to engineering though. Chemistry and biology, I don't know how important they are for being a polymath. However to be a good supervillain you also need a good grasp of the social sciences so you can control and manipulate people into doing your bidding either intentionally or unintentionally. A supervillain needs political power, henchmen, elaborate schemes, etc. Last edited by Wesley Clark; 06-06-2012 at 06:24 PM. |
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Incidentally, the name is Hair Gel for Mad Scientists™ not just Mad Scientist Hair Gel.
Romco spent a great deal of marketing money to come up with that name. Don't make |
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Hmmm....actually maybe I could always promote Acme's Styling Mousse for World Dominants™ I suppose. How are sales lately? I understand it's an extremely limited niche market. PM me on where to send the check please. Last edited by David42; 06-07-2012 at 10:10 AM. |
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So, David42 (if that is even your real name), you think you have what it takes to play in the extremely brutal arena of Mad Scientist Cosmetics? I think not. |
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Somehow I am beginning to think that Mad Scientists themselves are behind your product. It's probably a trick to get the public to go along with their schemes by promoting a false idea that Mad Scientists now have NICE hair, and therefore the ones with crazy Mad scientist hair are of no concern. Their plans for world dominion are simply hypotheticals. |
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