Did Jesus ever get mad?

[Mewl Dear]

I was watching this cool documentary today.
It showed him smashing all kinds of shit.
I thought he would be above that.
(I did not know they had machine guns back when.)

[Sir T-Cups]

He was pretty pissed when he saw the market that was built in the church, he was smashing all kinds of shit then.

Jesus was human ya know.

[garygnu]

It depends on which Gospel you read.

[Rhiannon8404]

I think Jesus smashing up the market place in the temple is help up as an example of righteous anger.

[Mewl Dear]

Later in the show a bunch of guys started singing about being an opossum.
Have no idea what that meant.

[WhyNot]

What's the buzz?

[Qadgop the Mercotan]

Originally Posted by WhyNot

What's the buzz?

Tell me what's happening!

[FoieGrasIsEvil]

Originally Posted by WhyNot

What's the buzz?

Apparently a pretty good one. I'm going with bath salts. Don't eat me, bro!

[The Second Stone]

The moneychangers in the temple got him mad. He smashed up their stuff and "threw" them from the temple. So the story goes. I don't know that he beat them up, or ordered them to leave or what.

So when having a church bake sale, remember not to charge retail. That and Jesus isn't keen on bankers. My recollection is that moneychangers charged full retail plus for animals to be sacrificed and that they charged a premium for converting unclean money into temple money. There are others who post on the boards, Tomndebb and Polycarp (he still here?) who know a heck of a lot more about this stuff.

[Jragon]

There was also that poor fig tree in the desert.

[Mangosteen]

Originally Posted by The Second Stone

The moneychangers in the temple got him mad. He smashed up their stuff and "threw" them from the temple. So the story goes. I don't know that he beat them up, or ordered them to leave or what.

So when having a church bake sale, remember not to charge retail. That and Jesus isn't keen on bankers. My recollection is that moneychangers charged full retail plus for animals to be sacrificed and that they charged a premium for converting unclean money into temple money. There are others who post on the boards, Tomndebb and Polycarp (he still here?) who know a heck of a lot more about this stuff.

Never got the "money changer" thing. Why would the temple care if someone put a Syrian "dollar" or an Egyptian "Peso", etc. in the offering box? The priests were only interested in money and why would they care what form it was in. All the coins were accepted locally for any goods you wanted to buy. There was no reason to change one kind of money for another.

When I was in southern Indian a few years back. There were lots of money changers in front of the temples, especially on Holy Days. However these moneychangers were not exchanging one type of currency for another. They were giving change.

Hundreds of beggars lined the entrance way to the temples. And worshipers needed lots of small coins so they could offer alms to as many of these beggars as possible. Worshipers would hand a 100 Repee note to the money changer and get 95 (or something less than 100) back and the money changer would make a small profit on every transaction for his trouble.

I always wondered if the money changers during Jesus' time were only giving maybe only the equivalent of "88cents for each $1.00" they changed for the worshipers and this is what pissed Christ off so much.

[Lobohan]

There was the time he palm striked a leper and all that was left was a screaming bloody skeleton.

I'm sure I read that in the bible.

[ftg]

Originally Posted by Mangosteen

Never got the "money changer" thing. Why would the temple care if someone put a Syrian "dollar" or an Egyptian "Peso", etc. in the offering box? The priests were only interested in money and why would they care what form it was in. All the coins were accepted locally for any goods you wanted to buy. There was no reason to change one kind of money for another.

People were not donating money, they were buying items for sacrifice from merchants outside the Temple.

There were too many coins of varying quality for a simple merchant to keep track. It required a bit of specialized knowledge to ascertain if that Persian drachma was mostly or very little silver and how much of the coin was left after people had sliced off bits of it.

Also, prices for a lot of stuff were frequently fixed in the local coin. The authorities would not be happy if you did your own currency exchange for goods, dancing around on the worth of the coins involved, as that would open the doors to people selling at higher/lower cost than the mandated amount.

Once you had a money-changing business going, then you basically become a banker of sorts and then things get really interesting. And bankers were just as despised back then as they are today.

[PandaBear77]

Jesus had several siblings. Of course He got pissed off at times.

He felt everything you and I feel.

[Living Well Is Best Revenge]

Originally Posted by PandaBear77

Jesus had several siblings. Of course He got pissed off at times.

He felt everything you and I feel.

It's certainly not fact that he had siblings. That is the Protestant view. "Brother" was used to describe basically all family members and even friends.

[BigT]

Originally Posted by Living Well Is Best Revenge

It's certainly not fact that he had siblings. That is the Protestant view. "Brother" was used to describe basically all family members and even friends.

No, the Catholic position is merely that they were step-brothers--Joseph's children from a previous marriage (that ended in death).

[Nava]

Originally Posted by BigT

No, the Catholic position is merely that they were step-brothers--Joseph's children from a previous marriage (that ended in death).

First time I hear that version, I always got the "they weren't his brothers, they were his manitos" explanation.

Well, ok, since this wasn't Mexico, the actual expression used was parientes al estilo ribero, but that means "cousins of any known degree and people he grew up with going into and out of each other's houses all the time". Sort of like my youngest brother has three brothers who are not related to us by blood at all, but they were all born in the same apartments building in the same year, they were always classmates, and they still know things about each other some of their blood relatives don't.

[Living Well Is Best Revenge]

Originally Posted by Nava

First time I hear that version, I always got the "they weren't his brothers, they were his manitos" explanation.

Well, ok, since this wasn't Mexico, the actual expression used was parientes al estilo ribero, but that means "cousins of any known degree and people he grew up with going into and out of each other's houses all the time". Sort of like my youngest brother has three brothers who are not related to us by blood at all, but they were all born in the same apartments building in the same year, they were always classmates, and they still know things about each other some of their blood relatives don't.

Exactly. I believe BigT is mistaken on the Catholic school of thought.

[Passion of the Shrubber]

"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

This passage in the Bible was edited to make it acceptable to the more sensitive religious folk. IRL, Jesus actually said:

"Get those muthafuckin' snakes out of my muthafuckin' temple!"

[kanicbird]

Yes it appears like Jesus got PO'ed a few times, the money changers is the prime example - which He did 2x. I believe it was because He was in human flesh and justified because of that.

[Esox Lucius]

His dad was known for some murderous fits of rage--drowning everyone, except for one couple, for misbehaving comes to mind. Some of that must have rubbed off on his son.

[Nava]

Originally Posted by Esox Lucius

His dad was known for some murderous fits of rage--drowning everyone, except for one couple, for misbehaving comes to mind. Some of that must have rubbed off on his son.

Four couples, at least (I don't recall the passage mentioning Noah being a gramps).

[That Don Guy]

Originally Posted by Nava

Four couples, at least (I don't recall the passage mentioning Noah being a gramps).

IIRC, one of his daughters-in-law gave birth on the Ark.

As for getting mad, in Luke 5:24, when he was asked to heal someone, but when his "your sins are forgiven" method was challenged as blasphemy, he pretty much said, "Be that way - you, get up, grab your couch, and return home!", whereupon the sick person did just that.

[Esox Lucius]

Originally Posted by Nava

Four couples, at least (I don't recall the passage mentioning Noah being a gramps).

I guess he wasn't all that bad, then.

[Locrian]

If I were an apocalyptical, couldn't convince the peeps that the world was ending in my (his) lifetime, AND couldn't read, yeah, I'd smash things.

[Enkel]

He smashed up the moneychangers in the temple becaues they'd made His Church into a get-rich-quick scheme.

He killed the fig tree because it had leaves, but no figs. Fig trees only produce leaves when they have figs. So, that was an example of false-advertisement (think of the people who claim to be Christian while acting hateful)

He was against the hypocracy of the pharisees because they were supposed to lead the people's spiritual learning, instead they taught 'do these minimum acts and your covered.' (For example, never, ever, ever use an elevator on Sundays... not even if a person is dying and needs help. Jesus saw helping the person as more important than following some stupid rule -- remember he healed on a sabath day, the horror of it!)

[Intergalactic Gladiator]

Originally Posted by Enkel

He smashed up the moneychangers in the temple becaues they'd made His Church into a get-rich-quick scheme.

He needs to come back for a visit, there are plenty of churches nowdays that are get-rich-quick schemes.

[pope_hentai]

Originally Posted by Mewl Dear

I was watching this cool documentary today.
It showed him smashing all kinds of shit.
I thought he would be above that.
(I did not know they had machine guns back when.)

that sounds more fun then the one where he fought the vampire lesbians with a mexican wrestler.....

[MichaelEmouse]

If you watch this documentary footage, you'll see Jesus getting mad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qnq7N6X4x84

[Meatros]

It depends on which gospels/books you believe, from the Master:

No question, the kid portrayed in the "lost books" isn't exactly the Prince of Peace. After recounting three murders in two pages, one passage concludes, "Then said Joseph to St. Mary, henceforth we will not allow him to go out of the house; for everyone who displeases him is killed."

In fairness:

The Infancy Gospel has never been proposed for inclusion in the official Bible. Many of the early Christian writers who were influential in deciding what books belonged in the canon regarded it as heretical.

[Pyper]

Originally Posted by Meatros

It depends on which gospels/books you believe, from the Master:

No question, the kid portrayed in the "lost books" isn't exactly the Prince of Peace. After recounting three murders in two pages, one passage concludes, "Then said Joseph to St. Mary, henceforth we will not allow him to go out of the house; for everyone who displeases him is killed."

So basically Jesus was Anthony Fremont from the Twilight Zone?

[Elendil's Heir]

He seemed kinda ticked off at his disciples for falling asleep while he was praying in the Garden of Gethsemane.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...42&version=NIV

[Taomist]

Originally Posted by Elendil's Heir

He seemed kinda ticked off at his disciples for falling asleep while he was praying in the Garden of Gethsemane.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...42&version=NIV

I've never been real biblical, but even when I was little and reading that passage, it seemed like he was more frustrated that his end was near, there was nothing he could do about it, and his friends just weren't taking him seriously. He was basically, frantically scared.

[Revtim]

He got pretty pissed when my Mom accidentally ran over his lawnmower. She paid for it, and he calmed down.

[Quasimodem]

Also about throwing the money changers out of that temple thing? If there IS something beyond death what are the bankers/bank employees and those folks who exchange money at the airports gonna do/say?

Q

[Dallas Jones]

Jesus' anger so scared the rabbit that the rabbit began pooping purple eggs each Easter for ever after.

[3waygeek]

I can't believe no one's mentioned Jesus's asking "My God, why hast thou forsaken me?" during the Crucifixion. Jesus may not have been full-on angry then, but he was definitely a bit cross.

[Annie-Xmas]

Originally Posted by 3waygeek

I can't believe no one's mentioned Jesus's asking "My God, why hast thou forsaken me?" during the Crucifixion. Jesus may not have been full-on angry then, but he was definitely a bit cross.

Being nailed to a cross would make anyone more than a bit cross.

[Nunzio Tavulari]

Mad? No way! He's Jesus. can turn water into wine, get babes by the handful, raise the dead. He can do pretty much anything he wants to, and has 12 yes-men to back him up. He might get a little peeved, but with all the power in the world there's not much that can make you mad. If somebody crosses you, you just turn them into bunny rabbits. It's not any harder that creating a thousand fishes from thin air.

[billfish678]

If Jesus ever tried to uninstall Norton Anti-virus you can bet your bottom dollar he got mad.

[scrumpert]

I think he was mad because he was ripped off on a dime bag.

[elbows]

He was pissed because all those merchants were eating into the collection plate profits. Gold chalices don't grow on trees, y'know. We'll never get a bigger church if someone else fleeces the gullible before we get a shot at them, damn!

[Chronos]

The other reason moneychangers were needed was that most secular coins had graven images on them, and thus weren't allowed in the Temple itself.

[MyFootsZZZ]

If you ask my wacky neighbor, she'll tell you god and Jesus are pretty pissed off now... and Jesus's mom is basically the one holding them back from clocking us in the face.

[Loach]

Originally Posted by Lynn Bodoni

If there were a loving and kind god, we would not have blister packs. Or if there were a righteous god, he would do some serious smiting (blister pack designers, telemarketers, etc.).

I agree. My girlfriend's ex is a packaging engineer. Now you know how to blame.

[elbows]

I feel your hate for blister packs but please be aware, currently drugs, perfectly good expensive prescriptions drugs, get destroyed, rather than reused. They cannot be recycled, to Africa say, out of a fear that they may have been contaminated. Blister packs mean left over drugs can be recycled.

I cared for someone till their death, they took a lot of meds. And during their final months, the meds were often changed, switched out etc, at quite a speed. By the time it was over, I had enough meds to open a pharmacy. I spent a full year trying to find a way to get them into the hands of someone who could use them. There was absolutely nothing wrong with them, they were all destroyed! It broke my heart, and is a shameful waste in a world of need. The law requires they be destroyed - unless - wait for it - they are in blister packs!

Just something to think about, not scolding, I promise!

[CC]

and wouldn't THAT be something for a deity to be pissed about? Man, where are these guys when you need them?