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Old 03-14-2012, 07:37 PM
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Survivor: One World March 14 2012

Mixed up tribes, screwing one tribe over with a talentless group.
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Old 03-14-2012, 07:39 PM
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"Michael and _____ double teaming up on Colton!"

I giggled.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:46 PM
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I was hoping Tarzan would forget what name to write and get kicked because of it. It would have been hilarious.
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:14 PM
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" I found the HHI. It's in my crotch."

I wanted to ad...

"It was there the whole time."
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:50 PM
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" I found the HHI. It's in my crotch."

I wanted to ad...

"It was there the whole time."
LOL!

The new team division does seem pretty lopsided, but all Colton could do was whine about it instead of trying to help his team prepare their new camp? Speaking of which, I guess that's it for "one world"? That didn't last long. I was liking the dynamics of having two teams camping right next to each other.

Man, I fucking hate Colton. He was SO adamant about wanting to ally himself with the women, then when he does make an alliance with them he immediately votes one of them off. And Alicia is a fucking idiot for going along with him.

I'll miss Monica. She seemed like a good person and she's a hot MILF.
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:38 PM
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so the Men won a tarp a few episodes back. and the women won a tarp last week. Did the new camp get one of the tarps?

I like Tribe shake-ups but I don't like people who won stuff in reward challenges not have them any longer.

And Tarzan has Aphagia? (wiki link). I have known some women like that. No experience with guys but I suspect Colton is not afflicted with Aphagia.
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:40 AM
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I believe he meant aphasia.
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:26 AM
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The Great Mystery to me is why everyone is so quick to worship and follow Colton. AFAIK he hasn't done a lick of work around either of the camps and seems to do nothing but lounge around and eat the food gathered by others. Seems like that would get very old, very fast.

"Colton, get off your fat ass and chase that chicken!"
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:58 AM
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I want to know which production team member sabotaged the chicken coop before giving it to the castaways, because that was hilarous. "Yay, we caught a chicken! Oh no, there's a hole in the cage!"

So anyone notice that the "random" tribe reassignment was actually somewhat rigged? Jeff had a separate bowl for each tribe, just to make sure it was a 3 person swap, since that's the most interesting case.
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Old 03-15-2012, 08:11 AM
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Probst just tweeted:

He had hinted something historic would happen last night, but he screwed up. It's next week. He forgot what kickoff we were on.
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Old 03-15-2012, 08:21 AM
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And Tarzan has Aphagia?
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I believe he meant aphasia.
Yes, specifically nominal aphasia; he has trouble with names (which makes sense - wasn't he the one who called Jonas Josh at one challenge?).
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So anyone notice that the "random" tribe reassignment was actually somewhat rigged? Jeff had a separate bowl for each tribe, just to make sure it was a 3 person swap, since that's the most interesting case.
I don't know that I'd call that "rigged" somewhat or no; they wanted to split two tribes of seven members each into two new tribes and took pains to ensure each new tribe wound up with a 4/3 split between male and female members. I don't know how you can do that more fairly than they did. The random element is sustained by not knowing specifically which former Manono members drew a blue egg or which former Salani drew orange.

Colton seems to think that his former Manono alliance will hold post-merge, but I don't know that Troy (who is now Salani) will re-join. And now he has somehow drawn Alicia in, even though she seems not to trust him at all; Jonas seems content to simply ride his coattails, and Tarzan seems to be completely confused about the kind of person Colton is.

It does appear the new Salani has an edge in challenges, but it should be interesting to see how that group handles its first Tribal Council; will the girl-power four (including now-idol carrying Kim) vote off the guys, or will they sacrifice one of their own to maintain muscle?
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Old 03-15-2012, 08:54 AM
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Bad move voting Monica off, I think. Pre-merge, you still need to keep your stronger players. But Colton is still looking at personal threats. Clue: If you keep your stronger players, you stand a better chance of not having to go to TC. The other players are too worried about their own skins. Colton would be a good person to take to the final, since he's such a bitch. But at this point he's more of a threat to each of them and it would be better to get rid of him. He's got them buffaloed, though, so they're not going to do it. They don't seem to understand that the HII only works if it's actually played.

I was surprised Colton held onto the ball so long. I couldn't help thinking of the ball as Powdered Toast Man. 'Cling tenaciously to my buttocks!' He had quite a grip.

I felt a little bad for Leif, the way he was repeatedly swatted aside at the net. Not that he should be given special consideration because he's small; I mean, it's a physical game and anyone's limitations will be exploited. Still, the repeated swattings in rapid succession would have pissed me off. I was thinking that instead of trying for the ball, he should have gone low and taken the other guy down at the knees.

Next week: Someone pisses Colton off. (Can you believe it?) Good opportunity for the sheep to rise against their preppie overlord. I think Colton will convince them otherwise.
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Old 03-15-2012, 09:19 AM
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Have there been any clues to the locations of the Hidden Immunity Idols given out?
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Old 03-15-2012, 09:28 AM
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Have there been any clues to the locations of the Hidden Immunity Idols given out?
Nope; that was one of the changes for this season. They were simply hidden around camp, but they added the twist that each idol had a tribe designation, so if you found one labeled for the other tribe, you had to give it away - which is how Colton got his (Sabrina found it, but it was a Manono idol, so she couldn't keep it). Kim found the other one this week.
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Old 03-15-2012, 09:37 AM
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I assume Colton remained on the correct tribe for his idol to be valid, then?
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Old 03-15-2012, 09:39 AM
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Closed Captioning spelled it "Aphagia" and not "Aphasia".
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Old 03-15-2012, 09:43 AM
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Closed Captioning spelled it "Aphagia" and not "Aphasia".
The transcriber was wrong.
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Old 03-15-2012, 09:44 AM
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Bad move voting Monica off, I think. Pre-merge, you still need to keep your stronger players. But Colton is still looking at personal threats. Clue: If you keep your stronger players, you stand a better chance of not having to go to TC.
Exactly my though. From what I saw of Monica throughout the game she appeared to be one of the fittest players, as well as an intelligent person (blindside notwithstanding). Before the individual immunities getting rid of your strongest team members seems like shooting yourself in the figurative foot but Colton only cares about his perceptions. What is continually amazing is that no one else (on the show) sees this. It can't all be in the editing, can it?
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Old 03-15-2012, 10:00 AM
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I don't know that I'd call that "rigged" somewhat or no; they wanted to split two tribes of seven members each into two new tribes and took pains to ensure each new tribe wound up with a 4/3 split between male and female members. I don't know how you can do that more fairly than they did. The random element is sustained by not knowing specifically which former Manono members drew a blue egg or which former Salani drew orange.
That's why I said "rigged" instead of "fixed". There was nothing inherently unfair about it or anything. It's just that previous swaps had always been everyone picks buffs/eggs/other indicator from one large collection, occasionally leading to only 1 or 2 (but never zero) person moving between tribes, and a swift exit. Moving 3/7 is the most interesting case of course.
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Old 03-15-2012, 10:06 AM
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From what I saw of Monica throughout the game she appeared to be one of the fittest players
She said something about 'chasing [her] husband around stadiums with a football'. I don't know if she meant that literally, or just that she'd watched her husband enter a stadium (in triumph) and wanted to give him the opportunity to see her do the same. But she did seem fit, and I can imagine that she and her husband might engage in athletic activities together.
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What is continually amazing is that no one else (on the show) sees this. It can't all be in the editing, can it?
The problem is that they let him get away with it for too long. He has his claws in them such that if anyone suggests doing the logical thing, that person will become the next to be ousted. Everyone is looking out for Numero Uno, and they are sucking up to Colton so that the next guy gets the target.

The women have not been subjected to Colton's machinations as much as the men have. They might coordinate an attack; but with Monica gone that seems less likely.
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Old 03-15-2012, 10:12 AM
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I assume Colton remained on the correct tribe for his idol to be valid, then?
Well, yes he did, but I doubt they would have asked him to relinquish it if he hadn't; I imagine the tribe-specific labeling only applied at the time of discovery.
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That's why I said "rigged" instead of "fixed". There was nothing inherently unfair about it or anything.
Fair enough; I just thought "rigged" carried an implication of some kind of inequity. The way it was done had better odds of producing more balance than complete randomization, in my opinion (notwithstanding the imbalance in muscle actually effected).
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Old 03-15-2012, 10:42 AM
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Marty and NaOnka thought they were in total control of their tribes, but Jeff spoiled their plans by telling the castaways to drop their buffs as there would be a tribal switch before the start of the Reward Challenge. The castaways drew rocks for captains, with Brenda and Holly being selected. Brenda was told to pick three members from the older tribe that would join the younger tribe and she picked Jane, Jill, and Marty. Holly had to pick four members from the younger tribe to join the older tribe and she selected Alina, Benry, Chase, and NaOnka.
Sorry to bring up Naonka again, but it seems like this had the same scenario. Splitting each team by 3 and 4. and joining with their opposite 4 or 3.

Whatever bad things we can say about Colton, he got Alicia to turn on her alliance. She went from "It won't be a woman", to "As long as it's not me"
Still, that tribe looks pretty weak. It's gonna be tough to avoid a sweep over the next few weeks.
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:02 AM
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both challenges last night looked to be designed to have "mixed" teams. A generic male team would have been favored over a generic female team as the water challenge was strength orientated and the basketball challenge had a wrestling/strength element to it.

disclaimer: As much as I want this post to not sound misogynistic I am sure some will think it is. Please be assured that it is not my intention.

All things being equal, I think the producers would have liked 8-6 split (either direction) in the tribes during so each tribe makeup would have 4 men 3 women or vice versa.
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Old 03-15-2012, 12:58 PM
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There is clearly something the editors are not showing us because everyone seems pathetically grateful that Colton is not trying to vote them out. I had high hopes when Alicia stood up for the women at first but by the end of the show she caved like all the rest.

Salani is going to rule not only because of their strength but because they don't have Colton screwing everything up.
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:37 PM
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The women don't oppose Colton because they believed him that he wanted to flip. Now Alicia and Christina are probably screwed (Christina more than Alicia, I can see Colton keeping Alicia around as his ally). Shame because I despite Alicia but like Christina.

The men don't oppose Colton because they're stupid or scared. Jonas flat-out said he doesn't care as long as it's not him going home. Leif and Tarzan don't strike me as the smartest guys in the world.

I think things are looking very good for the group on Salani. I think the right move during a tribe mixup is to come up with a new alliance from both tribes instead of trying to stick to your old one.
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:31 PM
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She said something about 'chasing [her] husband around stadiums with a football'. I don't know if she meant that literally, or just that she'd watched her husband enter a stadium (in triumph) and wanted to give him the opportunity to see her do the same. But she did seem fit, and I can imagine that she and her husband might engage in athletic activities together.
She's married to Brad Culpepper of NFL fame. They live in Tampa, FL (Brad is now an attorney), and there's a giant billboard on the interstate announcing "Good luck to Monica Culpepper on Survivor!" I've always liked Survivor, but had a hard time keeping up on when the seasons start. Thanks to the billboard, I watched it this season. I was really impressed with Monica. She seems to be a pretty genuine lady - at least by Survivor standards. And it's obvious she takes pride in her level of fitness, that of which I find impressive for a slightly older lady (I love that she's so much better in challenges than all the sorority sister types!). I think they're idiots for voting her off last week. She added more dimensionality to the ladies' side, and she was good.

Colton is an asshole. I roll my eyes every time he comes on, but geez, it does make for good tv. I don't think anyone actually likes him though. They really could've blindsided him good either of the past two weeks, and he wouldn't have even thought to use the immunity idol. But it seems like the show would be a little more boring without him.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:48 PM
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Colton knows he is on a sinking ship--there's no reason to keep Monica around if they're going to lose the next three immunity challenges anyway. Jonas is playing an ideal game with Colton--he knows what's going on and is riding coattails perfectly.

That said, Colton and Jonas have their work cut out for them--the three Salani women (Kim, Sabrina, and Chelsea) got served the final three on a plate after the way the tribe swap went.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:54 PM
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She seems to be a pretty genuine lady - at least by Survivor standards.
I know a couple of things about her that aren't genuine.
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:14 PM
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Colton is an asshole. I roll my eyes every time he comes on
And so does he. Look, we even have a Colton smiley: (Man, I hope he gets voted out soon... )
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:58 AM
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The transcriber was wrong.
Memo to transcriber: you are allowed to consult a dictionary.

This is the same transcriber who rendered bumfuzzled as bum-puzzled.

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Old 03-21-2012, 06:28 PM
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From the commercials, it seems someone goes out on a stretcher tonight.

Please be Colton.
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