[Mafia game] The Realm of Phere

[ToeJam]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Primarily I see not the motivation for sharing such words.

it's " 'ello, here's a partial claim-bye"

A Thousand pardons, my fair maiden. I was mocking you. But in the nicest way possible. : curtsies :
Thank you for clarifying your confusion though. I hope you will take my jests with a grain of sugar, for I never mean them in harm, merely bemusement, usually mine own.

[choie]

Originally Posted by Gadarene

1. Astral's came late and seemed more self-conscious about entering into the flow of the thread. It seemed like he thought about how to construct his opening post before making it.

Clearly I'm way more tentative than you are, but... isn't this what everyone does? I mean, I know what I'm about to say now, and I knew it before I hit "reply." Is that suspcious? Do you really just click "reply" with no clue about what you're gonna say, and then let your fingers randomly hit the keyboard in hopes that whatever you write has something to do with the previous posts?

In any event I really don't want my grudge vote on septimus to be taken as serious mistrust, because I have no read on him whatsoever yet. I fully admit there's nothing I'd like more than to lynch a Scum septimus, but it's too early for me to make a call, especially with so low a post count on his part. So...

unvote septimus

... That said, I'm a little astonished that people (septimus and glee) are already posting about posessions, which I guess is a kind of handshake attempt? Isn't that precipitate?

And as long as annoying posting styles are getting dinged, I'm casting a wary glance at ToeJam.

Because I think s/he's trying to hard to take objection to Astral's punny post, I shall instead

vote Gadarene

[choie]

NETA: I admit I'm also looking askance at ToeJam for not knowing what 'bemusement' means.

[realitytrip]

Greetings, fellow adventurers! I see the talk is already flowing fast and furious. I am used to playing werewolf in person, its going to take me a little while to catch on to the customs here, I hope you will bear with me.

The first day is pretty much my least favorite part of the game. No one has any past behavior to go on (outside of meta-gaming, of course) and so anything out of the ordinary comes up to great scrutiny. I find the quick judgment to vote a bit disturbing...two or three lines and you are on the chopping block?

For my part, I don't feel ready to vote for anyone just yet. The day is young.

[Silver Jan]

Originally Posted by choie

NETA: I admit I'm also looking askance at ToeJam for not knowing what 'bemusement' means.

Oh dear, he must have been discombobulated or bamboozled by not knowing what bemused meant, poor guy!

[Gadarene]

Originally Posted by choie

Clearly I'm way more tentative than you are, but... isn't this what everyone does? I mean, I know what I'm about to say now, and I knew it before I hit "reply." Is that suspcious? Do you really just click "reply" with no clue about what you're gonna say, and then let your fingers randomly hit the keyboard in hopes that whatever you write has something to do with the previous posts?

In any event I really don't want my grudge vote on septimus to be taken as serious mistrust, because I have no read on him whatsoever yet. I fully admit there's nothing I'd like more than to lynch a Scum septimus, but it's too early for me to make a call, especially with so low a post count on his part. So...

unvote septimus

... That said, I'm a little astonished that people (septimus and glee) are already posting about posessions, which I guess is a kind of handshake attempt? Isn't that precipitate?

And as long as annoying posting styles are getting dinged, I'm casting a wary glance at ToeJam.

Because I think s/he's trying to hard to take objection to Astral's punny post, I shall instead

vote Gadarene

Townies are generally more relaxed and free-flowing in how they post; scum are generally more self-conscious about how what they're saying sounds, especially when it's their first post in the thread or their first post for the Day.

I don't see how I'm trying too hard to take objection to Astral's post. I was asked why I voted Astral, and I explained myself.

*shrug*

[glee]

Originally Posted by glee

I declare I am a Soldier and have a Blue Pendant.
Does anyone know what it does?

I understand that I can increase my level if I vote (even if I unvote later.)
Therefore I begin with:

Vote NAF1138*

and continue

Unvote NAF1138

*I have no reason to choose him, except we've talked here in the past.

For your amusement: I have had a dream from the night that I have been in towns a couple of times before. I have always been honourable and I have always been lynched.

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Primarily I see not the motivation for sharing such words.

it's " 'ello, here's a partial claim-bye"

Originally Posted by Normal Phase

Oh, about glee and his pendant ...

another thing rather common in the games ATPG has played in and designed that have items? Is thieves. Sometimes thieves that have to know what an item is before they can try to steal it, sometimes thieves that can just steal whatever someone has. So it might be a good idea to be a little cautious about revealing items.

Actually I want to know whether my Pendant has any use to the Town. If so, the quicker I find out, the better.
I mentioned I was a Soldier as I expect Mages will be better at Identifying objects.
Also I'm in the UK, so will not overlap in time with most players. Therefore I'm going to be direct.

(If you would rather I made cheese puns, I can get a nice Stilton in Tilton...)

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Vote: PlayerA
Unvote: PlayerA, Vote: PlayerB
Unvote, Vote: Player A

Are acceptable.

Blue is the custom here, but there may be multiple things to vote on per round, and some of them might be blue. Bold is required, color may be required for certain votes.

OK, just to get it right for my level gain:

Vote NAF1138

Unvote NAF1138

[Silver Jan]

@ glee, YAY you are only one hour behind me, I can chat during normal waking hours!!!

[glee]

Thanks Silver Jan.
Actually I'm retired - so my waking hours can be flexible.

[Sherlock Holmes ON] 1 hour away and called Jan - are you from the Netherlands by any chance? [Sherlock Holmes OFF]

[Silver Jan]

Originally Posted by glee

Thanks Silver Jan.
Actually I'm retired - so my waking hours can be flexible.

[Sherlock Holmes ON] 1 hour away and called Jan - are you from the Netherlands by any chance? [Sherlock Holmes OFF]

I'm from South Africa but I was born in England, we came here when I was 5. My maiden name is Holmes btw so uncle Sherlock is close to me lol

[Askthepizzaguy]

Originally Posted by ToeJam

So Demon. What use are you to us?

"I can exterminate this infestation of small, useless creatures who speak in un-worshipful tones toward their new and unmerciful God, ridding them of the burden of their short, pointless lives."

Will you be voting today?

"If it pleases me."

Be you Mortal in this Realm?

"Take your best shot, rodent."

Does Doth have any thing of use to contribute?

"My power is beyond your comprehension, and my intelligence is far too vast to be fully utilized by beings of such limited scope. Annihilation is the destiny of all who cower before me, for none of you are worthy of being the Master of my power. You are tiny blobs of squishy goo, and the only justification for your existence is the small, satisfying pop your bodies make when I crush you within my grip. That is your sole purpose of being. I shall pop you all for my amusement, and watch your heads fly off and the goo ooze out. Squishy, squishy, squishy! And I shall step on your little heads as well, to see if they make a delightful crunching sound.

Perhaps this is your inept way of asking for my assistance. The trifling matters of your insect lives are no concern of mine. Although I am easily capable of making all your darkest wishes come true, your imagination is too limited to make full use of my talents. Then you would still have to contend with my endless desire to pop your fragile little bodies, and would be unable to stop me from painting the landscape with your gooey innards.

If you value your disgusting lives, bring before me anyone who would try to bind me with their feeble chains and who would pretend to be my Master, and I will drag them back to Hell with me."


-IC-

[ToeJam]

[quote=Askthepizzaguy;14941299]
If you value your disgusting lives, bring before me anyone who would try to bind me with their feeble chains and who would pretend to be my Master, and I will drag them back to Hell with me."
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Hey Demon Lord- Do you have a Name? Or do I just call you [b]Mr. Hughley[b/]?


Mr. Hughley, What does Bemusement mean?

[ToeJam]

Originally Posted by choie

NETA: I admit I'm also looking askance at ToeJam for not knowing what 'bemusement' means.

So you don't believe in Love at first sight?
Or am I just so nice that you had to look Twice, my possibly-fair unknown-Gender Good sir/Madam.

That said, I certainly admit, I don't know a lot of things. But are you sure you're not the one bemused right now?

[choie]

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Annihilation is the destiny of all who cower before me, for none of you are worthy of being the Master of my power. You are tiny blobs of squishy goo, and the only justification for your existence is the small, satisfying pop your bodies make when I crush you within my grip. That is your sole purpose of being. I shall pop you all for my amusement, and watch your heads fly off and the goo ooze out. Squishy, squishy, squishy! And I shall step on your little heads as well, to see if they make a delightful crunching sound.

Aw, somebody's cranky.

[choie]

Originally Posted by ToeJam

So you don't believe in Love at first sight?
Or am I just so nice that you had to look Twice, my possibly-fair unknown-Gender Good sir/Madam.

That said, I certainly admit, I don't know a lot of things. But are you sure you're not the one bemused right now?

I'm almost completely certain there are things that bemuse me. (89% of the rules of this game, for example!) I'm female, fair in the sense of 'justice-minded' as well as beauty, but not of complexion.

If thou wouldst talk pretty words to me, ToeJam, feel free -- but I'm not certain it's a good idea to play the courtier and his would-be queen d'amour when there's a hulking great monster breathing down our necks.

[ToeJam]

Originally Posted by choie

If thou wouldst talk pretty words to me, ToeJam, feel free -- but I'm not certain it's a good idea to play the courtier and his would-be queen d'amour when there's a hulking great monster breathing down our necks.

Trifles, m'lady, Trifles.
That said, if my words doth annoy thee, a hundred apologies. But if the Town as a whole feels my words are bemusing them all rather than amusing them, simply speak up and we can return back to more a more practical tonguing. But if currently yours is the only desire for my change of tonguing, then I'm afraid The lady doth protest too much, methinks

A pleasure to meet you though dear fair-minded Choie. We shall have need of such minds in these troubling times. : curtsies :

[Askthepizzaguy]

Originally Posted by ToeJam

Hey Demon Lord- Do you have a Name? Or do I just call you Mr. Hughley?

"In order to properly pronounce it, I would have to rip out your tongue and crush your gonads. Until then, 'Foot fungus' should address me as Lord Phere."

-IC-

[Visorslash]

So I have my own ragtag band of followers now, eh?

Regardless, I don't see how OMGUS is a jerk move, nor how it is so extremely scummy. Scum can only vote for themselves or innocents, generally. So, when someone votes you, they have as much chance to be scum as anyone on Day 1. So OMGUS is perfectly fine in my eyes. I understand the culture here is different, but I'm not going to play to a different standard because that's not how I play. Lynch me for it if you want, I suppose.

[Astral Rejection]

Originally Posted by Visorslash

So, when someone votes you, they have as much chance to be scum as anyone on Day 1. So OMGUS is perfectly fine in my eyes.

This makes a surprising amount of sense to me. I've never looked at OMGUS votes like that before.

Originally Posted by Gadarene

Townies are generally more relaxed and free-flowing in how they post; scum are generally more self-conscious about how what they're saying sounds, especially when it's their first post in the thread or their first post for the Day.

I'm fine with your reasoning, but I have several questions.

1) Do you believe that my set-up for the gouda joke is indicative of being more self-conscious?

2) Do you believe a town player or a scum player is more likely to make a fluffy first post?

3) You initially said "I agree" with Guiri's post. Guiri says his vote is at least partially based on his expectations of me as a player in past games. Do you share that reasoning as well?

4) Of your 8 posts, 100% of them have to do with me in some way. 0% of them mention anything about anyone else. How do you reconcile this post––––

Originally Posted by Gadarene

In any event, all Day One reads are necessarily based on the most limited amount of information, so my confidence level is not strong beyond thinking that Astral is more likely than rand to be scum.

–––– with the fact that you haven't done any other scum hunting? If I'm just "more likely than rand to be scum," why aren't you looking elsewhere? Presumably the game wouldn't end with my death if I was scum.

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Also, unvote Choie.

It was based on the slightest whiff of scumminess, a feeling which has since abated.

[Visorslash]

So how do you guys view OMGUS votes then?

[Inner Stickler]

Generally they're considered a sign of flailing and lack of perspective.

[MHaye]

Originally Posted by Visorslash

So how do you guys view OMGUS votes then?

When the community was just beginning to develop some experience, OMGUS votes were viewed with suspicion as an easy reason for Mafiates to place votes without stretching.

I don't believe extended gameplay backs up that hypothesis, but I don't feel like collecting vote data. Nowadays I consider it an unjustified vote supported by a bad idea; but bad ideas are not a ground for lynch, so I note it and move on.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Visorslash

So how do you guys view OMGUS votes then?

my thought process........ When I am Town anyone who votes me is being anti-Town. 'specially if it reads as a week premise - or a 'me too'




An OMGUS ( OMGYS) vote can be a knee jerk reaction. If it leads to a case being made on the player it will carry more weight than a vote and disappear post.


Although some days I think I should change my name to MzInterpreted. Take it as you wish

[ToeJam]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

my thought process........ When I am Town anyone who votes me is being anti-Town. 'specially if it reads as a week premise - or a 'me too'

No offense, but that's just terrible logic. If there's one thing i remember from my days of long ago... it's never a good idea to play with Absolutes. EVER.

Mafia is a game of perspectives, rather than assuming all who vote for you are scum- look for their motivations- WHY are they voting for me? Does it make sense? Does it seem opportunistic. If they were Town and did not know my role, would this make sense vs. if they were scum and did not know my role (or assumed I was Town) would they make this play?

You have to look at both sides of the issue and try to think about it rather than just jumping to the idea that All who vote for you are automatically scum- the odds are that a Townie will vote for you at some point, and that you will vote for a Townie at some point as well- Unless you're that type of player that never as mislynched.

Just some words of caution, fair maiden, less you wish not to be a pawn by more intelligent scum who have nosy ears in future games.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by ToeJam

No offense, but that's just terrible logic. If there's one thing i remember from my days of long ago... it's never a good idea to play with Absolutes. EVER.

Mafia is a game of perspectives, rather than assuming all who vote for you are scum- look for their motivations- WHY are they voting for me? Does it make sense? Does it seem opportunistic. If they were Town and did not know my role, would this make sense vs. if they were scum and did not know my role (or assumed I was Town) would they make this play?

You have to look at both sides of the issue and try to think about it rather than just jumping to the idea that All who vote for you are automatically scum- the odds are that a Townie will vote for you at some point, and that you will vote for a Townie at some point as well- Unless you're that type of player that never as mislynched.

Just some words of caution, fair maiden, less you wish not to be a pawn by more intelligent scum who have nosy ears in future games.

Hence the last line of me statement. I do realize that Town would/could/will vote me- hades they don't know I'm on their side.they don't know they are being anti-Town of course

But I suppose part of my point was an OMGUS vote is a null tell in most cases ( atleast to me) unless it looks like a poke and hope and the player does not add meat to the sandwich ( does that help?)

[gnarlycharlie]

i don't agree with the reasons for voting Visorslash. one can argue that his play is anti-town. but is it scummy? certainly, as Toejam said there are no absolutes. while it is certainly possible that a player like Visorslash can be scum being overtly anti-town, in the games i've played in and read, such occurrences are rare. that, coupled with that he is new to this board, would make such strategy very risky.

why do we give someone like peeker a pass? he makes a lot of noise and can be very distracting. perhaps Visorslash likes to stir the pot to see reactions.

voting and lynching Visorslash until he conforms will only make this game his first and last.

Originally Posted by Silver Jan

The reason I haven't removed my vote from Visorslash is that he OMGUSed Weedy, that bugged me a lot.

are OMGUS votes scummy? or are they just silly? you've done that more than others.

Originally Posted by ToeJam

Do you feel that he is SCUMMY for OMGUSing Sir Weeds, or a Jerk for OMGUSing Weedy?

Because while the two may seem the same, it's not quite the same.

agreed.

Originally Posted by Visorslash

So I have my own ragtag band of followers now, eh?

Regardless, I don't see how OMGUS is a jerk move, nor how it is so extremely scummy. Scum can only vote for themselves or innocents, generally. So, when someone votes you, they have as much chance to be scum as anyone on Day 1. So OMGUS is perfectly fine in my eyes. I understand the culture here is different, but I'm not going to play to a different standard because that's not how I play. Lynch me for it if you want, I suppose.

i actually think OMGUS votes have value. it's generally frowned upon here so i am careful when i do so. technically one can argue that my OMGUS votes are not OMGUS because i add arguments to such votes.

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i think there might be scum in the Visorslash bandwagon. so i'll Vote Silver Jan for voting Visorslash for OMGUSing when she has been the reigning queen of OMGUS.

[gnarlycharlie]

for everyone's convenience i am posting everyone's gender, at least those ones i've played with before. corrections and additions welcome.


1. Mahaloth - male
2. Drain Bead - female
3. Suburban Plankton - male
4. Mosier - ?
5. Scathach - female
6. Fubbleskag - male
7. Weedy (aka Evene) - female
8. Gadarene - male
9. PetW - ?
10. Astral Rejection - male
11. gnarlycharlie - male
12. NAF1138 - male
13. septimus - male
14. GuiriEnEspana - male
15. Inner Stickler - male
16. Lightfoot - female
17. Silver Jan - female
18. choie - female
19. BobArrgh - male
20. Tanaer - ?
21. Red Skeezix - male
22. Normal Phase - female
23. MHaye - male
24. RealityTrip - ?
25. Lilflower - ? (i'm guessing female )
26. glee - ?
27. Visorslash - male
28. storyteller0910 - male
29. ToeJam - male
30. Askthepizzaguy - undefined (this one escapes me )

[gnarlycharlie]

for those who wish to talk to me, you can reach me through:

Windows Live - gnarlscharlie@live.com
Yahoo - gnarlscharlie@ymail.com
AIM - gnarlscharlie

in that order of preference.

[BobArrgh]

Here is my take on what has transpired so far.

I think Guiri's vote for Astral Rejection was a little over-the-top. I thought it was clear Astral was trying to work in the cheese pun. Hardly enough to vote for, but then, it is Day 1 and the ball has to start somewhere.

Gadarene looks very suspicious for a weak-sauce, "Me too" vote. Gadarene's first attempt at answering Astral's question (#87) was not much of an answer. His second answer in #113 starts out by saying, "Your tone sounded forced," which seems to be an attempt to add meat to the weak sauce.

Silver Jan's vote for Visorslash (#95) because Visorslash voted for "Renata" instead of "Normal Phase" strikes me as pretty weak, as well.

Visorslash appears to have gotten off to a pretty interesting start by stepping on as many toes as possible. His posturing doesn't seem to be so much scummy as it is annoying. At least he had the moral integrity to call his OMGUS vote on Weedy what it was.

@Glee: What part of the UK are you in? A friend of mine was in London and he says he caught some sort of bug from drinking WATER! Can you believe it?! I thought the UK was far more civilized than for travelers to be worried about finding drinkable water. I told him he should have stuck to beer and ale.

In any case, I am a little confused as to why you posted information about your role and possessions so soon. Were you angling for a mass claim on Day 1?

[BobArrgh]

[OOG]
I think it is highly amusing that someone named "Gadarene" is in a game that has a "Demon Lord" in it. If anyone is unfamiliar with the reference, please see Mark 5 in the Bible.
[/OOG]

[BobArrgh]

[OOG]
@Normal Phase: IANAD/IANYD/YANMP, etc., but I saw in the sign-up thread that you had a pain that was possibly masquerading as appendicitis. Last year I had the same type of thing that doubled me up for several days and then would disappear. I seriously thought it was appendicitis, which was impossible, since mine was removed when I was 17. (Since mine was removed in Indonesia back in 1979, I was actually afraid that perhaps they hadn't completely removed my appendix.)

It turned out to be something called a "Meckle's Diverticulum", which is a little pouch in the small intestine, right near where it joins up to the large intestine. I had to have it removed.

As I said, IANAD/YANMP, but you might want to research it and if you keep having issues, follow up with a visit to your own doctor.
[/OOG]

We now return to your regularly-scheduled Mafia game.

[gnarlycharlie]

Originally Posted by BobArrgh

[OOG]
I think it is highly amusing that someone named "Gadarene" is in a game that has a "Demon Lord" in it. If anyone is unfamiliar with the reference, please see Mark 5 in the Bible.
[/OOG]

+1

how cool is that?

[LightFoot]

@ Charlie we are in agreement on something ( atleast for now) is that a record? [ie the wagon bits]


@ BobA I sideways asked that same question of Glee but didn’t get a real response.



@ generally
Week sauce votes are the norm Day one but atleast have some sort of a case when you start the parade.


hades I have been known to ‘pitbull’ a minor point to bits but I do start with a point ….’me too’ tells us nothing. What part of player Y’s case was the trigger for your suspicion? What did player Z type that got you looking?= playstyle ain’t a Scum tell


I do not care for preachy players or smileys in mafia games BUT ( yep it’s a big butt) In an effort to stimulate conversation on this short-to -some Day I’ve done a bit here [grin]

[Weedy]

Originally Posted by PetW

Can you please explain your reasoning for taking such an antagonistic stance immediately? If you are town, how would that help you/the rest of us? Your posts in the sign up thread struck me as scum that thinks he's so slick he can act scummy and still get away with it, as if you're striving for future bragging rights.
Also, out of curiosity, how old are you?

I don't really hve problem with Visor's vote on me. I joke voted him, and he joke voted me back. Seems fair.

Originally Posted by Gadarene

Your tone sounded forced.

It sounded like you were thinking about how to enter the thread.

I think you're much more likely to be self-conscious about your entry as a wolf than as a villa -- sorry, as a scum than as a townie.

That's the basis for my read.

Studiedly casual?

In Gad's defence (not sure if I should be defending Gad, but whatever), I have experienced him catch Scum this way.

Originally Posted by septimus

I agree with this, especially his "My cup of care is empty."

Vote: Visorslash

But I've not really concluded Visor is Scum; I just want to make sure I place some vote. (Storm knocked my Internet out for many hours yesterday, and storm continues.)



I also have a special object with unknown use. (I'd mention that it's black but then choie would never Unvote me. ) I'd offer to trade, but am afraid a trade would leave me even confuseder.

Don't like this vote, considering it's on a wagon, and if you just want to vote you could vote someone who wasn't looking like a possible lynch.

unvote

vote Septimus


I wrote this a while go, but forgot to post it till now

[Weedy]

Tanaer is female (and away this weekend).

[Astral Rejection]

Vote MHaye.

MHaye pops in during the whole my-first-post thing, where all anybody can talk about seems to be me, Gad, or Guiri. There's actually a ton of votes flying around... when MHaye makes his first post, the voting situation is this:

Guiri: Astral Rejection
Normal Phase: Mosier
Choie: Septimus
Viperslash: Normal Phase
Astral Rejection: Choie
Gadarene: Astral Rejection
NAF1138: Gadarene
Weedy: Visorslash
Silver Jan: Visorslash

With so much to talk about, MHaye chooses to post this:

Originally Posted by MHaye

Did someone call my name?

Inner Stickler is correct. If I were playing, I would tell you that grudges are bad.

Ahem.

"Trying to get someone killed just because they were Mafia in the previous game, and insidiously undermined all your points before leading the Town to an egregious mislynch of your innocent self is bad. Roles in this game have nothing to do with roles in the last game. Vote to lynch by all means, but do so based on events and evidence in this game."

There, now I've performed my civic duty, I need to wander off for a few hours. Back after lunch.

Tut tut tut.

My quote breaks some of the internal quotes he makes, so be sure to click the little blue button to see his post in full context.

He doesn't weigh in on anything, nor does he return after lunch as promised. Instead, his next post is this:

Originally Posted by MHaye

When the community was just beginning to develop some experience, OMGUS votes were viewed with suspicion as an easy reason for Mafiates to place votes without stretching.

I don't believe extended gameplay backs up that hypothesis, but I don't feel like collecting vote data. Nowadays I consider it an unjustified vote supported by a bad idea; but bad ideas are not a ground for lynch, so I note it and move on.

I believe MHaye is content to keep his head down and not weigh in on anything we're heatedly discussing, and I think that's a fairly good early indicator of scumminess.

[Astral Rejection]

Now, a question to Guiri and Gad:

Here's glee's first post in night 0. For reference, his post is two posts before my first post.

Originally Posted by glee

Just checking in.
Note that here in the UK, it's 02.17 local time (why. yes, I am still awake...)

Here's mine again:

Originally Posted by Astral Rejection

Checking in. Not the best first post I could have made, but it's pretty gouda.

Here's Guiri's justification for voting for me. It's presumably Gad's, too, since all we have to go on is a "I agree" from Gad.

Originally Posted by GuiriEnEspaña

The housekeeping, the apologetic tone, a little joke. For someone who ran the other D&D related mafia game, he's got very little to say.

Discounting the fact that I ran the last D&D game (that clearly doesn't apply to glee), I think Guiri's justification could also apply to glee. Glee also "checks in," which Guiri calls housekeeping. Glee also makes a little joke. Glee is also somewhat apologetic, in explaining that he has a different time zone from us.

Gad & Guiri: why do you not also object to glee's post? What do you believe is the significant difference between them?

[PetW]

Originally Posted by Visorslash

It's not antagonistic, it's an OMGUS vote. I just typed out the words. Also, what does my age have to do with anything? Just curious.

Go ask Normal Phase. I act like this all the time.

When I say you're being antagonistic what I'm referring to is your repeated threats about chopping people up into little pieces and whatnot in the sign up thread, and you're general "I'm going to get all of you remarks.
I ask about your age because I think that might have something to do with your peculiar attitude.
I already saw that Normal Phase said that, but I'm interested in how you think acting this way is in Town's benefit.
vote Visorslash
For now I'm placing my vote on you, since you didn't really answer my questions last time.
Oh, and for you squemish about placing early votes, it's a tactic to put pressure on someone to talk more. More talk is more information, and more chance for scum to slip up.
With such a large number of players, there's sure to be a few scum that try to be as forgettable as possible. Right now I'm working from my phone (damn computer is in for repairs), so it's hard for me to look at the big picture, so if someone can keep an eye out for suspicious little activity posters, that should help.

[Astral Rejection]

@ PetW:
I believe our moderator said it didn't matter, but if you want to get into the traditional habit for votes that will likely be followed in future games, votes are blued and bolded.

[PetW]

Vote Visorslash
Sorry, I suppose this is the format we're using.

[Astral Rejection]

No apologies necessary! As I said, I think Askthepizzaguy said it didn't matter. It's just a good habit to get into, because some mods (*coughmyselfcough*) are sticklers for that kind of thing,

[glee]

Originally Posted by gnarlycharlie

for everyone's convenience i am posting everyone's gender, at least those ones i've played with before. corrections and additions welcome.
...

I'm male.

Originally Posted by BobArrgh

@Glee: What part of the UK are you in? A friend of mine was in London and he says he caught some sort of bug from drinking WATER! Can you believe it?! I thought the UK was far more civilized than for travelers to be worried about finding drinkable water. I told him he should have stuck to beer and ale.

In any case, I am a little confused as to why you posted information about your role and possessions so soon. Were you angling for a mass claim on Day 1?

I'm from the Midlands (having lived in London for 33 years.)
Sadly I don't believe your friend. Our drinking water is extremely reliable.

I'm not angling for anything in the game, except to expose the traitor(s).
This is a complicated game and I think the more information we discover, the better.
It seems pointless to wait until the game ends to reveal I have a possession whose powers I know nothing about. It makes sense to me to find out quickly what it does...

[glee]

Originally Posted by Astral Rejection

Glee is also somewhat apologetic, in explaining that he has a different time zone from us.

I thought that was important, since there might be quite a delay before I reply due to the time zone difference.

[Visorslash]

Originally Posted by PetW

When I say you're being antagonistic what I'm referring to is your repeated threats about chopping people up into little pieces and whatnot in the sign up thread, and you're general "I'm going to get all of you remarks.
I ask about your age because I think that might have something to do with your peculiar attitude.
I already saw that Normal Phase said that, but I'm interested in how you think acting this way is in Town's benefit.
vote Visorslash
For now I'm placing my vote on you, since you didn't really answer my questions last time.
Oh, and for you squemish about placing early votes, it's a tactic to put pressure on someone to talk more. More talk is more information, and more chance for scum to slip up.
With such a large number of players, there's sure to be a few scum that try to be as forgettable as possible. Right now I'm working from my phone (damn computer is in for repairs), so it's hard for me to look at the big picture, so if someone can keep an eye out for suspicious little activity posters, that should help.

I act like that because I like to have fun.

[Inner Stickler]

There are many players who consider mafia to be a game of numbers vs information. Town has the numbers but mafia has the info. As the game progresses, the two reach an equilibrium and in an ideal game, neither side gains a huge advantage. As such, there tends to be a gut reaction to players who suggest sharing info at the beginning of the game as any info shared with town is perforce shared with scum who are better equipped to make ill use of it than town is to take advantage of it properly. So, glee, I would expect to see some push back from your unsolicited statements if I were you.

[Astral Rejection]

Originally Posted by glee

I thought that was important, since there might be quite a delay before I reply due to the time zone difference.

I have no issue with your check-in post, I'm merely using it to question Guiri and Gad.

[Inner Stickler]

The dustup between you guys is all very interesting, I'm sure and I can't wait to see what happens once one of you dies and flips some alignment. I'm sure much hay will be made of it.

What really intrigues me, though is Astral's going after choie for a post that appears, at least superficially, to be on his side. Are guiri and astral scumbuddies and this early vote an attempt to make them seem unlikely partners? It's not an unfamiliar tactic to players here. Or are astral and choie scumbuddies using guiri's lucky vote to go one level deeper in the WIFOM? Or are all three townies and I'm just high on paranoia? And then Gad jumps into the fray with a vote that, despite his later clarifications seems very light in the rationale department. That's what I'm interested in, along with Astral's initial nonchalance about the vote coupled with his more recent posts taking issue with it. It's a cliche around these parts that Day 1 is usually nothing more than townie on townie violence but I am getting the feeling that someone in this group is scum looking to jumpstart a mislynch.

Vote Gad

I'm thinking I might switch to Astral though, I haven't decided.

[Astral Rejection]

How do you get this

Originally Posted by Inner Stickler

What really intrigues me, though is Astral's going after choie for a post that appears, at least superficially, to be on his side.

from that?

Originally Posted by choie

I genuinely can't tell if Guiri's vote is in jest or not. I mean intuition's all we've got for now, so anyone voting early is probably always going to base their votes on intuition. At least it gives us something to talk about.

[Astral Rejection]

Nevermind, I get it. I think it's tenuous, but I get it.

[Inner Stickler]

She's questioning his vote which implies she doesn't agree with it and the final sentence is the nail in the coffin saying that all his vote is worth is as a conversation starter.