[Mafia game] The Realm of Phere

[Askthepizzaguy]

OOC:

If the 72 hour long days are too short for folks, and a lot of you object, I could extend the rounds. I want to keep the rounds shorter than a whole week because this game could last even longer than the previous game I hosted, depending on how it is played.

I will need about 24 hours at the end of every phase just to calculate all the results of things and send everyone updates as to their status, then night phases are complicated as well and will require at least 3 days plus an update day. That's already 8 days per day/night cycle. I don't want to stretch it much longer than this.

Can we adapt to the shorter cycle, or must we extend it?

[Askthepizzaguy]

See personally I don't mind the game lasting a while, but you know, maybe folks' schedules change in the coming month(s) or someone else wants to host and stuff. Just thinking about that stuff.

[Astral Rejection]

I'm actually okay with the shorter days, because it's a nice change of pace. Certainly the conversation seems a little more brisk.

Only downside is, some people might struggle to post each Day. Put me down as "okay with shorter days," but I'm also okay with longer.

[Astral Rejection]

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

at least 3 days plus an update day. [/b]

I see this being an issue, though. Conversation stops at night, because there's little point in telling the scum team what you plan to do or who you plan to target once Day breaks. 3 days of silence will really put a hurt on the conversation every single Dawn.

[Weedy]

I like shorter Days. Can I vote for shorter Nights?

If Nights are going to be really long, can we start the Day at the same time each week? Otherwise I'm going to lose track and end up missing Days.

[Silver Jan]

Originally Posted by gnarlycharlie

i don't agree with the reasons for voting Visorslash. one can argue that his play is anti-town. but is it scummy? certainly, as Toejam said there are no absolutes. while it is certainly possible that a player like Visorslash can be scum being overtly anti-town, in the games i've played in and read, such occurrences are rare. that, coupled with that he is new to this board, would make such strategy very risky.

why do we give someone like peeker a pass? he makes a lot of noise and can be very distracting. perhaps Visorslash likes to stir the pot to see reactions.

voting and lynching Visorslash until he conforms will only make this game his first and last.



are OMGUS votes scummy? or are they just silly? you've done that more than others.



agreed.



i actually think OMGUS votes have value. it's generally frowned upon here so i am careful when i do so. technically one can argue that my OMGUS votes are not OMGUS because i add arguments to such votes.

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i think there might be scum in the Visorslash bandwagon. so i'll Vote Silver Jan for voting Visorslash for OMGUSing when she has been the reigning queen of OMGUS.

Dear gnarly, I feel you are misrepresenting my vote. I did not vote visor for his OMGUS vote, I voted for him for voting someone not in the game and I do agree that it was a very weak vote. I was not following Weedy's vote either, look at the time stamps (well my vote did follow hers but that was because I had to login, my post had already been typed up in word). The votes that followed mine however seem very strange. I haven't got much time at the moment but I will read more thoroughly later today.

BTW I haven't placed an OMGUS vote for ages but I can start again if you want me to, from the queen of OMGUS.

[Inner Stickler]

Originally Posted by Astral Rejection

I see this being an issue, though. Conversation stops at night, because there's little point in telling the scum team what you plan to do or who you plan to target once Day breaks. 3 days of silence will really put a hurt on the conversation every single Dawn.

I expect it will be otherwise. In my experience, conversation at Night means quiet Days. But if people don't talk at Night, they're going to be brimming with suggestions, accusations, gambits and the like once the Day starts.

Also, if it's not a mod-enforced fluff night, people are going to talk strategy regardless.

[Weedy]

Also, if we are going to have 3 day Days, it might be better not to have them over the weekend, if this board is like Giraffeboard.

[GuiriEnEspaña]

Originally Posted by Silver Jan

Dear gnarly, I feel you are misrepresenting my vote. I did not vote visor for his OMGUS vote, I voted for him for voting someone not in the game and I do agree that it was a very weak vote. I was not following Weedy's vote either, look at the time stamps (well my vote did follow hers but that was because I had to login, my post had already been typed up in word). The votes that followed mine however seem very strange. I haven't got much time at the moment but I will read more thoroughly later today.

BTW I haven't placed an OMGUS vote for ages but I can start again if you want me to, from the queen of OMGUS.

Wow. You made a k

Originally Posted by Silver Jan

The reason I haven't removed my vote from Visorslash is that he OMGUSed Weedy, that bugged me a lot.

Originally Posted by Silver Jan

I think he could be both, that is why I have not unvoted him, but then again I have never played with him before (no pun intended) and it could just be his style. Overall though, I find it quite a scummy thing to do.

Originally Posted by gnarlycharlie

i think there might be scum in the Visorslash bandwagon. so i'll Vote Silver Jan for voting Visorslash for OMGUSing when she has been the reigning queen of OMGUS.

SilverJan has already pointed out that she didn't vote Visorslash for OMGUSing. To be fair, she has cited his OMGUS as a reason for not unvoting but still, not quite the same. What made you pick SilverJan from among the players who voted Visorslash? (Weedy-apparently a joke vote, Silver-for voting a non-non-player, Mosier-because he agrees with Suburban that Visorslash is annoying, Mahaloth-for no apparent reason other than being the leading wagon, Septimus- for being antagonistic and as a placeholder for a vote,

[GuiriEnEspaña]

Stupid iPhone posted as I was editing... I can't go back to do all those quotes again now but:
SilverJan accuses gnarly of misrepresenting her vote. While it's true that her vote on Visorslash was initially a joke, she explicitly kept her vote on him due to his OMGUS vote and mentioned this twice, why the denial?

And to gnarly, what made him choose Silver from among the voters on Visorslash?

[Askthepizzaguy]

OOC:

Originally Posted by Weedy

I like shorter Days. Can I vote for shorter Nights?

Nights are about equally important, action-wise, as day phases. If the nights are too short, people may not have a chance to send in night actions. Most advanced character classes will have night actions. I'll play it by ear.

Even the basic vanilla classes have day actions, and I'd remind folks that they don't have much time left to send in such actions for day one.

Once night begins, it's night, and day actions are officially late and therefore not going to be accepted.

If Nights are going to be really long, can we start the Day at the same time each week? Otherwise I'm going to lose track and end up missing Days.

I'm going to be as consistent as possible, but my schedule does vary.

I know this much, 5PM my time is when I'm usually at work, so I'm probably going to need to switch the posting of the results/changing of the phases into sometime in the early morning hours, which sucks. But, I could keep the end of phase times around 5PM for convenience.

I'd imagine a schedule like this:

• Thursday 5PM- Day Officially Begins, 72 hours remain.
• Sunday 5PM- Day Ends, no more day actions accepted, no more votes accepted.
• Monday 3AM, after I come home from work- Calculating results and posting the result of the lynch, updating people's information. True end of Day Phase, Announce Night Phase beginning.
• Wednesday 5PM- Night Phase Ends, but late orders may still be accepted while I am at work, if I am at work. The actual deadline is past, however, so when I get home, that's that. Calculate results and post result of Night events, update people's information. Announce Start of Day. Votes and discussion can begin early, as soon as night phase is posted and PMs are all sent out.
• Thursday 5PM- Day "Officially" Begins, 72 hours remain.

This should give Thursday and Friday people some time to discuss and vote. I could also intentionally delay a couple of rounds and push this schedule so that "Day" phases begin on Monday, leading to this:

• Monday 5PM- Day Officially Begins, 72 hours remain.
• Thursday 5PM- Day Ends, no more day actions accepted, no more votes accepted.
• Friday 3AM, after I come home from work- Calculating results and posting the result of the lynch, updating people's information. True end of Day Phase, Announce Night Phase beginning.
• Sunday 5PM- Night Phase Ends, but late orders may still be accepted while I am at work, if I am at work. The actual deadline is past, however, so when I get home, that's that. Calculate results and post result of Night events, update people's information. Announce Start of Day. Votes and discussion can begin early, as soon as night phase is posted and PMs are all sent out.
• Monday 5PM- Day "Officially" Begins, 72 hours remain.

This schedule would allow weekday people to have the entire day phase. The issue would be that night phases will always occur on weekends. If you have difficulty with weekends, you'd have to get your night actions in on Friday, which is still do-able.

This would also limit the game to a maximum of 1 week per day/night cycle, which would be IDEAL.

If this sparkles with everyone, then it will be my goal going forward. Obviously 24 hour delays can be expected as sometimes I do work a 50 hour week and my schedule shifts around.

[gnarlycharlie]

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

OOC:

If the 72 hour long days are too short for folks, and a lot of you object, I could extend the rounds. I want to keep the rounds shorter than a whole week because this game could last even longer than the previous game I hosted, depending on how it is played.

I will need about 24 hours at the end of every phase just to calculate all the results of things and send everyone updates as to their status, then night phases are complicated as well and will require at least 3 days plus an update day. That's already 8 days per day/night cycle. I don't want to stretch it much longer than this.

Can we adapt to the shorter cycle, or must we extend it?

a shorter cycle works for me. either is okay.

Originally Posted by Silver Jan

Dear gnarly, I feel you are misrepresenting my vote. I did not vote visor for his OMGUS vote, I voted for him for voting someone not in the game and I do agree that it was a very weak vote. I was not following Weedy's vote either, look at the time stamps (well my vote did follow hers but that was because I had to login, my post had already been typed up in word). The votes that followed mine however seem very strange. I haven't got much time at the moment but I will read more thoroughly later today.

BTW I haven't placed an OMGUS vote for ages but I can start again if you want me to, from the queen of OMGUS.

ha ha ha! you're right. i misread. OMGUS all you want. i don't really vote people for that.

Unvote Silver Jan

Originally Posted by GuiriEnEspaña

Stupid iPhone posted as I was editing... I can't go back to do all those quotes again now but:
SilverJan accuses gnarly of misrepresenting her vote. While it's true that her vote on Visorslash was initially a joke, she explicitly kept her vote on him due to his OMGUS vote and mentioned this twice, why the denial?

And to gnarly, what made him choose Silver from among the voters on Visorslash?

it was the one that stood out. i've played with her the most and i feel i know her play better. it was a meta thing. on reread, i was mistaken. she did not OMGUS.

[choie]

OOG: Just woke up for some reason and decided to see what's up. Count me in for a Day/Night cycle that lasts for exactly a week -- the predictability and hence ease of remembering the schedule would be lovely as far as I'm concerned. I know I haven't much of a Mafia history, but I've always found it painfully easy to forget when Day or Night ends (or begins) and thus ended up getting caught short. (Er, not in the British sense.) So all this is to say that Days always starting on Monday and being relatively swift seems like a perfect idea to me.

Anyway with one day left of Daytime, could we please have a vote tally, Mr. Moderator Sir?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Given the amount of work I'll be doing this game, I'd appreciate some help keeping a running tally.

However, one tally coming right up.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Visorslash (4, leader): Silver Jan, Mosier***, Mahaloth, septimus, PetW
Gadarene (4): NAF1138, ToeJam, choie, Inner Stickler

Astral Rejection (2): Guiri, Gadarene

Septimus (1): Weedy
MHaye (1): Astral Rejection
Weedy (1): Visorslash

Abstain/Unvote/Present (2): Glee, gnarlycharlie
　
***- Vote not bolded, therefore not legal

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tiebreak rules are the same as normal for this board culture: First to reach the tied number is lynched.

[GuiriEnEspaña]

Originally Posted by Astral Rejection

Glee is also somewhat apologetic, in explaining that he has a different time zone from us.

I don't see that.

Originally Posted by Astral Rejection

Gad & Guiri: why do you not also object to glee's post? What do you believe is the significant difference between them?

I don't think I've ever played with glee before and his post did not say anything to me.

Is this a general strategy thing you're trying to understand or are you strongly objecting to a couple of early D1 votes based on something that has little or no reasonable defense?

[GuiriEnEspaña]

Originally Posted by gnarlycharlie

it was the one that stood out. i've played with her the most and i feel i know her play better. it was a meta thing. on reread, i was mistaken. she did not OMGUS.

Huh? You voted her for voting Visorslash for OMGUS voting Weedy. I pointed out that her original motive for voting was not related to the OMGUS vote but she had twice used the OMGUS vote as a reason to keep her vote on Visorslash, maybe my correction adding confusion as I also questioned SilverJan on her denial in the same post.

[choie]

Thanks, pizzaguy. And sorry for making you do more work; you're probably right, we should do our own tallying.

So looking at the tally, that leaves about twelve people unheard from?

(Damn. For some reason I'm now mentally singing:

"I'm going back to tally
tally
tally
I'm going back to tally...
I don't think so."

And this is not a good earworm.)

[choie]

OOG: Holy crap, what's with the neon? Could've sworn I used the regular "green" code. Sorry about that.

[septimus]

General comments:

I like detailed discussion of game mechanics, especially on Day 1, and especially in a game as complicated as this one. Such discussion serves multiple purposes: Help us to get clarity and to form views of how to test our powers, etc. But also to begin scum-hunting: We can look for "helpful" advice which is actually Scummy or, more likely, scummy smudging of neutral advice. (Or, even more likely?, scummy smudging of alleged such smudgers. )

Instead we've only digressed into finger-pointing about smallish things.

My excuse for not starting such discussion myself? Stupidity and ignorance. I do have questions, but they're mostly stupid questions.

My vote on Visorslash is for anti-Town play, not Scummy behavior. But when I have not the slightest Scum sense from any other player, and the rules almost mandate a vote of some sort, I'll vote for the anti-Town player over pro-Town any day.

I refrain from the bandwagon against Gadarene for one simple reason: I almost voted for Astral and it would have been for a reason much fishier than Gadarene's. I would have justified my vote with

"In the absence of any other suspicions, I will follow guiri who has proven the value of his intuition in the past. Hanging on the coattails of a good scumhunter isn't wrong." (Had I gone this way, of course, I'd be on the hot seat now, pleading for mercy. )

[Normal Phase]

Originally Posted by BobArrgh

[OOG]
@Normal Phase: IANAD/IANYD/YANMP, etc., but I saw in the sign-up thread that you had a pain that was possibly masquerading as appendicitis. Last year I had the same type of thing that doubled me up for several days and then would disappear. I seriously thought it was appendicitis, which was impossible, since mine was removed when I was 17. (Since mine was removed in Indonesia back in 1979, I was actually afraid that perhaps they hadn't completely removed my appendix.)

It turned out to be something called a "Meckle's Diverticulum", which is a little pouch in the small intestine, right near where it joins up to the large intestine. I had to have it removed.

As I said, IANAD/YANMP, but you might want to research it and if you keep having issues, follow up with a visit to your own doctor.
[/OOG]

We now return to your regularly-scheduled Mafia game.

Thanks. I have an appointment on Monday actually.

[Tanaer]

Thanks Weedy for letting people know I'm away. The Internet access here is awful, but I've managed to secure access long enough to skim the thread on tapatalk.

I'm really not inclined to incriminate people for cheese puns.

What did pull my attention was choie on number of scum. The question alone might have let pass but commenting with dismay at potential numbers later started to look like a cover up. Apologies for not quoting. I have to dash.

I have no idea whether I'll be able to get back Today.

[Normal Phase]

Originally Posted by Inner Stickler

The dustup between you guys is all very interesting, I'm sure and I can't wait to see what happens once one of you dies and flips some alignment. I'm sure much hay will be made of it.

What really intrigues me, though is Astral's going after choie for a post that appears, at least superficially, to be on his side. Are guiri and astral scumbuddies and this early vote an attempt to make them seem unlikely partners? It's not an unfamiliar tactic to players here. Or are astral and choie scumbuddies using guiri's lucky vote to go one level deeper in the WIFOM? Or are all three townies and I'm just high on paranoia? And then Gad jumps into the fray with a vote that, despite his later clarifications seems very light in the rationale department. That's what I'm interested in, along with Astral's initial nonchalance about the vote coupled with his more recent posts taking issue with it. It's a cliche around these parts that Day 1 is usually nothing more than townie on townie violence but I am getting the feeling that someone in this group is scum looking to jumpstart a mislynch.

Vote Gad

I'm thinking I might switch to Astral though, I haven't decided.

You're right, the choie vote is a bit odd from a psychological standpoint. ( http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...2&postcount=78 ) I like his MHaye vote better and even find the argument valid, but it's not exactly a difficult stance to take, is it?

[Normal Phase]

Originally Posted by Astral Rejection

I have no issue with your check-in post, I'm merely using it to question Guiri and Gad.

Oh and on this -- I'll let Guiri respond, but I really don't think it's a valid challenge you've made here, and furthermore I think that things that Guiri has already said in this game should explain why.

[Normal Phase]

Never mind, Guiri already did respond. Ugh, I'm not awake.

[BobArrgh]

[OOG]
The short days don't bother me, but I do like the idea of Days starting Monday.
[/OOG]

[glee]

Originally Posted by Inner Stickler

There are many players who consider mafia to be a game of numbers vs information. Town has the numbers but mafia has the info. As the game progresses, the two reach an equilibrium and in an ideal game, neither side gains a huge advantage. As such, there tends to be a gut reaction to players who suggest sharing info at the beginning of the game as any info shared with town is perforce shared with scum who are better equipped to make ill use of it than town is to take advantage of it properly. So, glee, I would expect to see some push back from your unsolicited statements if I were you.

I appreciate the advice.

Nevertheless having an item I don't know how to use is not a regular Mafia thing for me.
I wasn't suggesting any sharing of information, except regarding my item.

If someone on Town knows what it is and lets me know by PM (which I believe is legal here), how does that benefit the traitors?

[Astral Rejection]

Originally Posted by GuiriEnEspaña

Is this a general strategy thing you're trying to understand or are you strongly objecting to a couple of early D1 votes based on something that has little or no reasonable defense?

Neither. My traditional Day 1 strategy is to ask questions of people. I can fully understand someone's motives while still questioning them about an action. You also are forgetting that I've asked the same question of Gad. I originally left you out from that particular line of questioning (because you've explained yourself well so far), but edited you back in just to see how you responded.

Originally Posted by Normal Phase

Oh and on this -- I'll let Guiri respond, but I really don't think it's a valid challenge you've made here, and furthermore I think that things that Guiri has already said in this game should explain why.

Again, I'm questioning both of them. I disagree that it isn't a valid challenge, but that's neither here nor there. You can admit there are at least superficial similarities between the two posts, and I saw value in questioning them about it.

[glee]

Originally Posted by GuiriEnEspaña

I don't see that.
I don't think I've ever played with glee before and his post did not say anything to me.

I believe I have not had the pleasure of your company.

I thought my post had a bit of useful information (plus I've voted, unlike quite a few.)
Please could you give an example of a post that did 'speak to you'?

[Astral Rejection]

I don't want to speak for Guiri, but I believe he's saying that nothing you've posted indicates scumminess.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by glee

I appreciate the advice.

Nevertheless having an item I don't know how to use is not a regular Mafia thing for me.
I wasn't suggesting any sharing of information, except regarding my item.

If someone on Town knows what it is and lets me know by PM (which I believe is legal here), how does that benefit the traitors?

I have had my throat handed to me for NOT sharing information early, and for sharing too soon - different players-different games-

just admitting you have an item may cause you grief


Keep in mind you have no way of knowing the alignment of any player that gives you 'advice'- in game or out-

[LightFoot]

I have no idear why I am awake this early ( almost 6 AM Saturday here) on the one day when I could have slept in!

I look forward to the shorter days – it may kick the under the radar players in the joupa(sp*) –
I understand the ‘bookkeeping” of this game mandates that our Mod needs the Nights to be as long as the Nights will be. ( the shorter the better for me thinking)


Different time zones and different work schedules we can all give/take /adapt as long as the end/start times are kept clear


*(sp)= probably misspelled

[glee]

Originally Posted by Astral Rejection

I don't want to speak for Guiri, but I believe he's saying that nothing you've posted indicates scumminess.

That's a relief!

Originally Posted by LightFoot

I have had my throat handed to me for NOT sharing information early, and for sharing too soon - different players-different games-

just admitting you have an item may cause you grief

Keep in mind you have no way of knowing the alignment of any player that gives you 'advice'- in game or out-

Fair enough.

[Normal Phase]

Originally Posted by Astral Rejection

Again, I'm questioning both of them. I disagree that it isn't a valid challenge, but that's neither here nor there. You can admit there are at least superficial similarities between the two posts, and I saw value in questioning them about it.

Well the point I was making is that Guiri had already emphasized that it being you specifically had a lot to do with it -- and he has no previous experience with glee. So it seemed to me the question was already answered, and I don't see why you would choose to make an issue of it further.

[Visorslash]

Unvote; Vote: Gadarene

Simple survival.

[LightFoot]

Looking at the votes and what has been said toDay

I’ve already stated I think that many of the votes on Visorslash seem to stem from playstyle and I don’t care for them.


I had issue with Gad earler but the votes dropping there gives me pause as well.


The other player that sent an early ping was Mosier

mentioned here


There is nothing that that player has posted since that sways my suspicions


granted there have only been 4 posts ingame for that player so it’s all I have to go on


Vote Mosier

My weekend is about to hit the fan… if I get blown away I wanted to make sure I got a vote in.

[gnarlycharlie]

Originally Posted by GuiriEnEspaña

Huh? You voted her for voting Visorslash for OMGUS voting Weedy. I pointed out that her original motive for voting was not related to the OMGUS vote but she had twice used the OMGUS vote as a reason to keep her vote on Visorslash, maybe my correction adding confusion as I also questioned SilverJan on her denial in the same post.

oh, i left out a few words in the last sentence that changed what i meant. she didn't vote Visorslash for the OMGUS. she kept her vote on him for it.

Originally Posted by LightFoot

@ Charlie we are in agreement on something ( atleast for now) is that a record? [ie the wagon bits]

ha ha ha! we can't always be at odds, can we? it just might feel like it.

[gnarlycharlie]

update:

corrections and additions welcome.

1. Mahaloth - male
2. Drain Bead - female
3. Suburban Plankton - male
4. Mosier - ?
5. Scathach - female
6. Fubbleskag - male
7. Weedy (aka Evene) - female
8. Gadarene - male
9. PetW - ?
10. Astral Rejection - male
11. gnarlycharlie - male
12. NAF1138 - male
13. septimus - male
14. GuiriEnEspana - male
15. Inner Stickler - male
16. Lightfoot - female
17. Silver Jan - female
18. choie - female
19. BobArrgh - male
20. Tanaer - female
21. Red Skeezix - male
22. Normal Phase - female
23. MHaye - male
24. RealityTrip - ?
25. Lilflower - ? (i'm guessing female )
26. glee - male
27. Visorslash - male
28. storyteller0910 - male
29. ToeJam - male
30. Askthepizzaguy - undefined (this one escapes me )

[NAF1138]

Hey folks, this is my friendly reminder that I can't play much or, frequently, at all on weekends.

Sorry if this means I miss the end of Day. I will do what I can.

[MHaye]

I need to get on with my second read, since there's a risk I won't be around at Dusk - I try and go out on Sunday evenings. Also there's a looming shiny I want to follow from PAX East this evening.

Back a bit later.

[NAF1138]

Since I am here for like 3 minutes and trying to not fall too far behind.

Choie...how long have you been playing mafia? (I ask because I don't think I have played with you before). What do you know about voting third for a player?

ANYONE WHO ANSWERS FOR HER GETS MY VOTE AUTOMATICALLY FOR THE REST OF THE GAME UNLESS SCUM IS OUTED OR THAT PERSON US LYNCHED. LET HER ANSWER.

[GuiriEnEspaña]

Originally Posted by gnarlycharlie

oh, i left out a few words in the last sentence that changed what i meant. she didn't vote Visorslash for the OMGUS. she kept her vote on him for it.

And so you unvoted her? I'm sorry, it's not making sense to me how she's suddenly innocent of something that was worth a vote earlier. If you think voting someone for OMGUS voting is worth a vote, is "not unvoting" someone for the same thing different? And you suspected there was scum among Visor's voters but haven't voted anyone else since unvoting?

[MHaye]

Originally Posted by Astral Rejection

The important thing is that you tried your hardest.

Jokes aside, there are two mechanics I'd like to discuss. I believe resurrection is a possibility in this game, given how explicitly our host has reminded us that dead people cannot post or vote. That being said, I think that indicates that reveals will be delayed in some way.

Anybody else get the same feeling?

Not quite. My read was that death doesn't necessarily end participation in the game, although that being said, resurrection is a possibility (once someone gets to Clr 17 of course). Don't forget the diamond.

[choie]

Originally Posted by NAF1138

Since I am here for like 3 minutes and trying to not fall too far behind.

Choie...how long have you been playing mafia? (I ask because I don't think I have played with you before). What do you know about voting third for a player?

ANYONE WHO ANSWERS FOR HER GETS MY VOTE AUTOMATICALLY FOR THE REST OF THE GAME UNLESS SCUM IS OUTED OR THAT PERSON US LYNCHED. LET HER ANSWER.

Yowsa, scream a little! This is my third game, and I still feel pretty wet behind the ears. (Especially with all the extra mechanics involved.) But yep, I have heard of that third vote = scum thing. But I don't much abide by following unspoken rules like that -- it seems insincere to me. So I voted how I felt, which was that Gadarene's fixation on Astral's joke post was... not odd, crap, what's the word? Opportunistic, I guess. Does that make sense?

[NAF1138]

Originally Posted by choie

Yowsa, scream a little! This is my third game, and I still feel pretty wet behind the ears. (Especially with all the extra mechanics involved.) But yep, I have heard of that third vote = scum thing. But I don't much abide by following unspoken rules like that -- it seems insincere to me. So I voted how I felt, which was that Gadarene's fixation on Astral's joke post was... not odd, crap, what's the word? Opportunistic, I guess. Does that make sense?

Not a problem. Someone has to be the third vote, I am just trying to develop a bit of a player profile for you in my own head since you are one of the many folks I don't know well. Also,sorry for yelling. I would hope it wasn't necessary but experience has shown me otherwise.

[Astral Rejection]

Anybody else notice we suddenly have 250 personal message slots available? When did that happen?

[choie]

Originally Posted by NAF1138

Not a problem. Someone has to be the third vote, I am just trying to develop a bit of a player profile for you in my own head since you are one of the many folks I don't know well. Also,sorry for yelling. I would hope it wasn't necessary but experience has shown me otherwise.

No prob, I understand. Hopefully we're both just trying to keep the baddies at bay.

(I bet if anyone had answered instead of me, it would've been Inner Stickler. He's always helpful yet ironically gets lynched because of it!)

[choie]

Originally Posted by Astral Rejection

Anybody else notice we suddenly have 250 personal message slots available? When did that happen?

It was the result of this ATMB thread not too long ago.

And we members get 500, so nyeah.

[Askthepizzaguy]

How do I go about being an member. :P