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We get it, you're nonchalant already!
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There is way more information here than I can process.
Two things stick out to me: 1) From what Astral has said, it looks like glee took half damage from a Soldier attack. He may have absorbed it from protecting someone, or been protected himself. Either way I find it pretty suspicious that someone who voted with no reasoning behind it has strong enough reads to choose to defend someone, or enough supporters to get defended, unless they were Scum. 2) Gadarene, given the confusion around EoD, and lynch reveals in the Little Mermaid, do you think it would be an angleshoot to post what you did as Scum? Another way to ask that is: why did you assume you were dead before the lynch was revealed? You can reply via PM if you want (or Skype), if you want to avoid a whole cross-cultural discussion about what angle-shooting is. To Astral, I was 'implying' (actually thinking) that Scum might be communicatiing via PM, and you might be one. |
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#553
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Yeah, but if I was scum, wouldn't I have lied to you? I'm not sure what you were hoping my answer would prove.
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Oh, wait -- I just saw that I answered a different question than you asked. Yes, it's my opinion that it would be angleshooting for a Scum to post what I did in my spot. What's your take on it? |
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#556
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Also, I've been in contact with an Soldier who I shall not identify, who corroborates certain things about Astral's Soldier claim but who cautions that Soldiers could be Scum as well as Town. (And before you ask, I'm only provisionally trusting that this unnamed Soldier is town himself.)
The Soldier also says that he/she was one of the people who attacked Lord Phere. It is the opinion of the Soldier -- and one that I think I share -- that to the extent people have day attacks that deal a certain amount of damage (as Astral claims to, and as this Soldier claims to), we would be better off directing our efforts at chipping away at the hit points of Lord Phere rather than lashing out fairly blindly at other players (absent a very strong Scum lean or otherwise strong reason to attack a player, I suppose). The Soldier told me a couple of other things about that role -- and I want to clarify at least one with him/her -- that I don't think it's productive to go into at this time. |
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Normal Phase is a really devious Scum, by the way, and I wouldn't clear her lightly at all. |
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#558
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I'm back. Went to a rugby game, then internet went walkabout.
Thanks for attacking me... 250 HP damage eh? ![]() Anyway, I did attack Lord Shitforbrains. Fortunately for all involved he is too stupid to kill those who attack him. |
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#559
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It probably doesn't hurt to attack the Demon Lord if you aren't doing anything else, but I doubt it will be effective. The aim of the game seems to me to find the traitor and defeat the Demon that way.
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#560
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No, this is fun.
Oh and thanks for saving my ass Inner Stickler. Much appreciated. Last edited by Visorslash; 04-09-2012 at 10:39 PM. |
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#561
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Pizzamod, are attacks labeled as magical or physical in the colour, or the word 'attack' could be either magical or physical attack?
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#562
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Yeah, quit rubbing it in!
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However, I can clarify that no one leaped to mister Red Skeezix' aid, and therefore, no one took damage on his behalf. If they did, it would be in the writeup. If he had leaped to someone's defense, they would also be indicated. Therefore, it was a single attack on him, which he took the brunt of without a defender. |
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Is it just a gut instinct or do you actually know more about the Demon Lord than you wish to reveal out here in the open? I do agree that defeating the traitor might be the best way to deal with the Demon, but to attack the Demon rather than a blind strike in the Dark seems like not a bad plan. Pizzaguy has said that he will be voting as the demon, and that he does like to put certain hidden (almost gastardly) twists into his games- the Demon could most certainly fit that profile very easily for a "tricky" mechanism for the players to deal with. |
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Because if the demonlord has 9999,999,999,999 HP, we'll be here for a while. Or if the Demonlord has an HP regenerating ability greater than the total of all the combined attacks.
Visor, you're welcome. Now, pay me back by not being scum and showing us how things are done where you're from. |
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In general, it may not be possible to tell what kind of an attack or defense is being used, from the 'colour' alone. But I am confident this group can still work out what is happening, based on the effectiveness of the defense used, if any, and the amount of damage taken, to within a reasonable degree of accuracy. |
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Stickler, I'll be back tonight with some thoughts on the round. |
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We know that the demon can take damage, and that it appears to use 3on votes on a Townie. Unless you have a good reason for otherwise, I say that we focus our attacks on the demon.
Also, we can't allow the vote totals to be close at the end, because apparently the demon will lynch a Townie that already has a high number of votes. Looks like it'll need to be more unanimous to prevent what happened to Mosier. Also, between Gadarenes tearful goodbye and his miraculous save at the end, I don't trust him at all. |
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Visorslash, did you PM pizzamod with your attack, as per the rules? Or did you get a freebie even though you posted your attack through non-allowed means (e.g. in the forum)?
I'm curious to see how generous our GM is with mistakes. And BTW, count me as one who thinks it's a big honking mistake to go after Phere directly, and it's exactly what a scum team member would hope we'd do. Are we seriously going to listen to someone telling us not to go after scum, but instead attack a huge mofo of a monster who's probably nearly immortal? Doesn't this sound precisely what the evil ones are hoping we'd do? Jesus, Mary and Joseph, y'all aren't seriously considering this tactic, are you? I am gonna look hella askance at those who think it's better to target this lord high demon whatever than scum, and I hope the rest of town does the same. |
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On second thought, I suppose the scum/demon would've made the same move whether Gadarene was scum or not, so that's a non-tell. The last minute goodbye seemed a little cute, though.
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Point is, even if there's disagreement, we have to start working together. Letting scum/the demon settle tiebreakers ain't gonna be helpful. |
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Oh crap, I knew we were underway, but completely forgot about it. Need to catch up. On browse I see I took 60 damage today. Is that because I didn't vote? I don't recall. Need to reread the rules.
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Until I see evidence that damaging the demonlord will affect anything, I'm not that interested in spending a lot of time on it.
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I mean a one time attack on the demon to see what happens. |
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So far all we've seen from the demon is a 3 vote swing. If we use smarter voting strategy we can overcome that. However, if it becomes apparent that we need to kill the demon asap then we'll think of a way to deal with that.
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This is bizarre logic, since until you spend time on it you'll never know whether damaging the demonlord will affect anything.
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Of course, nobody is advocating diffuse attacks on random people (in fact me and at least one other person have specifically advised against it) - that's a strawman you just created. Your goodbye is difficult to parse, but like I said, it seemed a little cute. My "tearful" remark was sardonic. |
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Who here wants to finish the lynch that should've happened at the end of Day 1? Attack Gadarene if you have the ability. |
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I don't understand why people are promoting the idea as a good thing. It seems much better for Townies to get together (for those of us who attempt to clear other Townies) and gang up to protect or attack an agreed target. I do not agree with Gadarene being a good target at this point, because he will put a lot of work into the game if he is Town. |
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Not necessarily, it'd only make sense for scum/demon to lynch Mosier because if either/both Astral and Gadarene are Town they're the most likely to get lynched.
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I feel as if I am rambling on here and I suppose I am, it helps to think out loud though. I'm not sure that I have a scummy take on Astral and Gaderene is starting to look more like Town to me. This could mean that the top 3 lynch contenders could all be Town, scum would love that. |
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(If I had, it would have meant I took 50% of the damage they would have taken.) I didn't attack the Demon either. Quote:
(I also would like my Pendant identified, but don't have enough money to pay for it. And unless someone protected me, perhaps it's a Protection device?) 3. Unless a Townie (or three!) comes forward to claim they cast the last-minute lynch votes, I assume it was the Traitor(s) and therefore they were protecting their own. That means the one or more of the leaders of the lynch voting just before that are traitors. 4. From my D+D experience, I assume the Demon is unkillable by us. ![]() There is also an alignment change for certain attacks. If I (Lawful Good Soldier) attack the Demon Lord, do I change alignment? How do I heal my damage? |
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So fubbles -- what's your interest in gold?
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I forgot glee claimed Soldier. So he either protected someone (which he says he didn't), or someone protected him (or some other mechanism we dont know about, I guess, made him take half damage). But no one is listed as protecting him, so that's a bit weird. I'm suspicious of glee.
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I mean until someone comes forward and says, I have the ability to guage HP rates, the demonlord has 475 HP out of 600, I don't see the point in attacking it. Until we have some idea of his scale, how do we know if we're making progress versus wasting time? Scum, on the other hand would be more than happy to waste a day attacking someone who's not them.
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now to less serious matters. you've shed light when ATPG was talking about gold. one more piece of the puzzle clarified.
i'll add you on AIM in case either one of us want to chat.[/quote]thanks for asking! we're all doing pretty good. the little one isn't really so little anymore - at 9 months he weighed in at almost 24 lbs and is already 30 inches tall. he's progressed rapidly from crawling to pulling up on stuff, marking three stitches above his right eye in the process, and is starting to walk with assistance the last couple weeks. I feel like an ass saying it, because it's so tired and cliche, but it really does go by so fast. he's also a pretty big deal on the internet lately. what's your interest in my interest in gold? |
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regarding the debate of whether or not to group attack the Demon Lord:
my first thought is that He is most likely unkillable; he's ATPG's personal play thing in this game and seems to be playing a significant role in the color - I doubt he'd allow for him to be removed mid-game. but, let's assume for the moment that He is killable - is there any advantage in doing so? my PM states that my win condition is that no further threats to Town exist. is he a threat to Town? if not, and he is killable, why? possibly a 3rd party's win condition is to kill him? (if any of these wonderings have been previously answered in color or game, I'd appreciate a smack in the right direction) |
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My "most likely Town" list, based just on "pinging," includes Lightfoot, gnarlycharlie, Normal Phase, choie, GuiriEnEspaña, fubbleskag (just due to his special Power), and a few others.
I don't know how certain I should be of Towniness before proposing info exchange. Anyway, perhaps none of the above think I'm Townie, anyway. ![]() Quote:
) and my son is a smart active pre-teen. He's no stitches yet, but I've almost started a IMHO thread "Tree-climbing and other gymnastics -- Too dangerous?"I'm also curious what you'll spend your money on, fubbleskag, though doubt you should answer in the public thread. Do you do inspections at Night? Does anyone else have services to offer for sale? |
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I'm considering hiring you, obviously.
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For mage class or magically aligned characters, it says in the OP. I guess I am outing myself as a non-Soldier here. Didn't someone claim Soldier? Maybe they could say whether or not they have an element.
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Astral did, and someone talking to Gadarene.
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OOC: You're right.
I have a big fat error in my list of actions. ![]() BobArrgh, you take 25 damage. Glee takes none. ![]()
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Anyway, folks, I regret the bone-headed error, and I can't fix diddley squat in the thread itself since, well, I can't edit anything. But I have Glee defending Bob instead of the obvious, which was supposed to be the other way around. So if you could all mentally correct your notes and say that Bob took 25 damage, and no one protected him, I'll try not to shriek too loud from sheer embarrassment.
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I was detained unduly down the track
but do report for duty here forthwith - to take down any scoundrel, snick-a-snack! with trusty sword forged by a hardy smith. I can confirm that soldiers are indeed aligned with elemental types, dear Weed'! |
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This is absolutely terrible. To begin with, I was wagoned on day one mostly because I wasn't around and posting. I've been around toNight -- are you seriously saying that you think I'm just as good as a lynch candidate now, so much so that everyone should be attacking me? Second of all, I'm a claimed power role. You really want to exhort everyone to attack me right now? How is that pro-Town at all? |
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