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Old 05-09-2012, 05:09 PM
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We're being sold. Again. Maybe.

Sun-Times parent to buy Chicago Reader for $3 million.

I suppose it's possible that it doesn't include this site. I don't really know. Just sort of news potentially about the site that folks might be interested in.

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Old 05-09-2012, 05:29 PM
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Damn. I guess my bid of tree-fiddy wasn't high enough.
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Old 05-09-2012, 05:29 PM
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Dunno yet. Don't know anything yet.

And the sale is not yet final.

Don't worry unless/until we have something to worry about.

You can always panic/worry later on.

Stay tuned for further developments.
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Old 05-09-2012, 07:40 PM
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Meet you guys on Fathom.

Maybe.
Or not.
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:14 PM
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Will I get to keep my stock options?
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:21 PM
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I feel like one of those sleazy biker bitches "owned" by the Hell's Angels (well, maybe the Pee Wee Herman's version of the Hell's Angels).
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:45 PM
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Meet you guys on Fathom.

Maybe.
Or not.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:08 PM
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I'm wondering what interest they'd have in keeping the Straight Dope running. If the Sun-Times' owners decide that this site isn't worth the bandwidth...
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:04 PM
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Why would they do that? Can't say what they would or won't do but common sense should tell you a media company (this is Sun-Times MEDIA, after all), they're looking for content. This is content. It's meat, lots of material, a thriving message board. What's not to like?

Even under the current circumstances, the site is profitable. Not Apple profitable, obviously, but the site is not losing money, neither.

Like I said, don't panic until you have something to panic about. At this point we have zero information -- might be a good thing, might be a terrible thing, might be nothing at all. It's not even a done deal, it's barely more than a rumor. Anything more, we don't know.

You can always freak out when there's something to freak out over. Anything now is premature. Sit tight and wait for further developments. Right now you know as much as we do.
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:04 PM
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:06 PM
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Hey, I been at this lathe for the last 16 years. (Yikes!)
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:12 PM
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Don't worry unless/until we have something to worry about.

You can always panic/worry later on.
But if we wait until the last minute, we'll end up having to panic twice as hard in order to catch up.
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:38 PM
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I'm buying two towels. Just sayin.
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:24 AM
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I don't care what anyone says, I am going to freak out right now, and then I am going to panic so hard. You just try and stop me and I will punch this kitten right in the mouth.
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Old 05-10-2012, 06:20 PM
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I'm wondering what interest they'd have in keeping the Straight Dope running. If the Sun-Times' owners decide that this site isn't worth the bandwidth...
I peer into my crystal ball to see the future, and I see nothing but skellingtons! Skellingtons on fire!
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:31 PM
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This is content.
I'm going to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:36 PM
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I think it's time to seriously think about going independent. Seriously. Donations accepted. Seriously.
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:34 PM
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I'm wondering what interest they'd have in keeping the Straight Dope running. If the Sun-Times' owners decide that this site isn't worth the bandwidth...
Don't worry about it. As of today, straightdope.com is #830 on the Quantcast top U.S. websites list, with 2.6 million unique visitors/month. (Google shows us at 3.9 million; don't know why the disparity - supposedly these are both global figures.) Suntimes.com is #630, with 2.4 million UVs/mo. Assuming minimal overlap (safe bet), combined UVs are 5 million, which puts the company overall at #250 or so, just ahead of cbs.com. So by buying us the S-T turns itself into a much bigger online player.

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Old 05-20-2012, 02:46 PM
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Thanks Ed, for that. It's good to see that you're keeping that closely in touch with the pulse of this board.
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:24 PM
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As of today, straightdope.com is #830 on the Quantcast top U.S. websites list
This is pretty awesome, IMHO. There's millions and millions of websites, and the SD is in the top 1000. That's nothing to sneeze at.
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:35 PM
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I heard a rumor that if the deal goes through we're all getting stock options based on our post counts.
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:38 PM
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I heard a rumor that if the deal goes through we're all getting stock options based on our post counts.
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:44 PM
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I heard a rumor that if the deal goes through we're all getting stock options based on our post counts.
That's
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:45 PM
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I heard a rumor that if the deal goes through we're all getting stock options based on our post counts.
Awesome
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:50 PM
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Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
For you, not so much.
1. You're a guest-you don't have a post count.
2. It doesn't matter anyway. You got traded away to the ancestry.com message board for two genealogists and a spammer to be named later.
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:56 PM
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For you, not so much.
1. You're a guest-you don't have a post count.
Guests have post counts - they just keep them off the main display for tax reasons.

But I did hear that mods and former mods are exempt due to the generous compensation packages they already receive.

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Old 05-20-2012, 03:58 PM
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One word: Shit!

A few other words: Yes, let's PLEASE go independent. This is ridiculous and reminds me of the short time I worked at Lockheed in support of the C5B. We were constantly being fed layoff rumors, and worried every day if it would be our last.

Sorry, y'all. I know that's not a good (what?) simile (is that right?), but I hate that this keeps hanging over our heads.

This place is my lifeline. Please let's save it if we can.

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Old 05-20-2012, 04:37 PM
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2. It doesn't matter anyway. You got traded away to the ancestry.com message board for two genealogists and a spammer to be named later.
This was funny.

I think you could have even taken it further:
"You got traded away to ancestry.com for two keyboards and a spammer to be named later."
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Old 05-20-2012, 05:09 PM
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I know I'm totally biased and have been corrected when I called the SDMB "the number one" discussion board in the world, but why couldn't it be? Why not spend a few bucks and advertise ourselves? I know we show ads to non-members in the form of banners, but hell, let's buy some "air time" and work toward becoming independent?

That said, I know y'all must be getting tired of reading my drivel about how important this place (and you) are to me, and please overlook it if you want to. I'm just trying to make suggestions and being proactive. Just as I'm being proactive about the "other" thing.

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Old 05-20-2012, 06:47 PM
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No Quasi, we're Not Getting tired of you. I feel the same about the boards as you and I'm sure many others. Keep on keepin' on!
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Old 05-20-2012, 06:59 PM
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I know I'm totally biased and have been corrected when I called the SDMB "the number one" discussion board in the world, but why couldn't it be? Why not spend a few bucks and advertise ourselves? I know we show ads to non-members in the form of banners, but hell, let's buy some "air time" and work toward becoming independent?
Be careful of what you wish for. The feel of the board would change a lot if the membership doubled.

That said, I've wondered why a clever entrepreneur hasn't pushed the PSA model for internet advertising. Enthusiast A could donate to nonprofit B, to run ads on the SDMB on behalf of nonprofit C. Or more aggressively, A could pay for SDMB ads at Huffpo, TPM or other favored for-profit.

At any rate, I trust that the board will have some sort of home given the number of satellite boards. And I still opine that this asset presents an opportunity for somebody creative to make money hand over fist, though admittedly I have only vague ideas about how to go about doing that.
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Old 05-20-2012, 07:04 PM
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A more realistic fear is not selling so much, but that afterwards the new owners will jump the shark. Have you seen that abomination of a Web site lately? It used to be awesome, but now look at it: jumptheshark.com
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Old 05-21-2012, 01:14 AM
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Don't worry about it. As of today, straightdope.com is #830 on the Quantcast top U.S. websites list, with 2.6 million unique visitors/month. (Google shows us at 3.9 million; don't know why the disparity - supposedly these are both global figures.) Suntimes.com is #630, with 2.4 million UVs/mo. Assuming minimal overlap (safe bet), combined UVs are 5 million, which puts the company overall at #250 or so, just ahead of cbs.com. So by buying us the S-T turns itself into a much bigger online player.
Uh, that's stupid. The Sun-Times group has a whole hell of a lot more websites than Suntimes.com. Dozens of others, at least. And assuredly at least some of the are more valuable that the Straight Dope. (If not, this place is on life support and those few folks who are actual employees here ought to update their résumés.)

And even pretending your math weren't just idiotically desperate, let me point out that CBS.com is where they are making people watch their online content. The idea that this place plus the Chicago Sun-Times equals The Big Bang Theory is just freaking ludicrous. I'm about to cry after reading something that desperate.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:08 PM
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Uh, that's stupid. The Sun-Times group has a whole hell of a lot more websites than Suntimes.com. Dozens of others, at least. And assuredly at least some of the are more valuable that the Straight Dope. (If not, this place is on life support and those few folks who are actual employees here ought to update their résumés.)
Suntimes.com is the umbrella for all the company's websites, including its regional daily papers and suburban weeklies. No claim was made regarding the relative value of these sites. One would certainly hope Suntimes.com is making more money than Straightdope.com.

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And even pretending your math weren't just idiotically desperate, let me point out that CBS.com is where they are making people watch their online content. The idea that this place plus the Chicago Sun-Times equals The Big Bang Theory is just freaking ludicrous. I'm about to cry after reading something that desperate.
Calm yourself. I merely point out that, if and when Straightdope.com is brought under the Suntimes.com umbrella, the latter will rise considerably higher in the Quantcast ranking, which is based primarily on unique visitors. One might devise a different ranking using other metrics. I notice, for example, that the Sun-Times operates something called the Chicago Region-Wide Network (CRWN), which claims 37 million page views per month. Straightdope.com gets only 11 million PVs per month.

At any rate, there is reason to think that ST.com + SD.com will rank somewhere around cbs.com in the Quantcast ranking, should consolidation occur. This is not to say the stars of the two companies will shine equally brightly in the media firmament. I note, for example, that snopes.com ranks #217 on the Quantcast list. I love snopes, but no one would claim it overshadows CBS.
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Old 05-23-2012, 01:06 PM
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We are sold.

http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader...uys-the-reader

Once again, this is no cause for panic.

Things will go on as usual unless/until they don't. (This is true of many situations in life, not just here.) Until that time comes (if indeed it does come), we'll deal with it then, so in the meantime don't fret yourself.
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Old 05-23-2012, 01:51 PM
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I heard a rumor that if the deal goes through we're all getting stock options based on our post counts.
Rumor, with it's idle tongue.
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Old 05-23-2012, 02:08 PM
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Holy cow, less than three million for the whole kit and caboodle? I wish I knew that beforehand; could have made good on a lot of the promise of the board.

I know there are a lot of splinter boards. Would it be kosher to start a 'where to go in case of emergency' thread?
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Old 05-23-2012, 02:21 PM
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Would it be kosher to start a 'where to go in case of emergency' thread?
Cool.
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Old 05-23-2012, 02:27 PM
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This is how Jim Kirk makes his money, moves to Iowa, has an annoying great-grandson named after him, who is later encouraged to get off the planet!

It's so clear to me now.
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Old 05-23-2012, 02:30 PM
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Holy cow,...Would it be kosher to start a 'where to go in case of emergency' thread?
Only if you don't serve it with cheese.
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Old 05-23-2012, 02:43 PM
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Until that time comes (if indeed it does come), we'll deal with it then, so in the meantime don't fret yourself.
Besides, you'd look silly with frets.
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Old 05-23-2012, 02:48 PM
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I know there are a lot of splinter boards. Would it be kosher to start a 'where to go in case of emergency' thread?
Since we're asking people not to panic and there's no reason whatsoever to think that'll be necessary now or any time in the future, maybe you'd be willing to hold off?
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Old 05-23-2012, 02:53 PM
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Holy cow, less than three million for the whole kit and caboodle? I wish I knew that beforehand; could have made good on a lot of the promise of the board.

I know there are a lot of splinter boards. Would it be kosher to start a 'where to go in case of emergency' thread?
I would think if anything happened you'd know, or you'd find out pretty quickly.

Again, why are you so sure this means the demise of anything?
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Old 05-23-2012, 02:56 PM
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Besides, you'd look silly with frets.
Are you sure?




No problem holding off. Not sure of anything--except that the unexpected happens all the time. Again, look at jumptheshark.com for just one example of what could go wrong.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:00 PM
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I think this is good news. Creative Loafing has been unsure of where to fit the SDMB into its overall portfolio. As Ed points out, the SDMB is a good-sized web property with a nice combination of revenue and content. Sun-Times will have no reason to shut it down, and many reasons to keep it going.

The only thing to worry about, IMO, is tonal change, and at would be foolish on the pat of the Sun-Times. You don't fix what ain't broke.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:02 PM
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With all the many outlets available -- including the splinter boards -- I would think there would be no end of places to go and things to do.

For right now, however, it doesn't appear to be an issue.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:05 PM
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I think this is good news. Creative Loafing has been unsure of where to fit the SDMB into its overall portfolio. As Ed points out, the SDMB is a good-sized web property with a nice combination of revenue and content. Sun-Times will have no reason to shut it down, and many reasons to keep it going.
I think that's a sensible analysis.

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The only thing to worry about, IMO, is tonal change, and at would be foolish on the pat of the Sun-Times. You don't fix what ain't broke.
Then again, nothing about the forum changed (or was ordered to change) as part of any of the previous sales.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:12 PM
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The article didn't even mention the Straight Dope, much less our Message Board. Or more tellingly, me.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:15 PM
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Again, why are you so sure this means the demise of anything?
Because G-d hates me.
Sorry to drag all of you into this.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:30 PM
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Because G-d hates me.
Sorry to drag all of you into this.
She doesn't hate you, but she tells me she thinks you're a bit of a drama queen. that's all.

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