The Straight Dope

Go Back   Straight Dope Message Board > Main > General Questions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-14-2012, 09:33 PM
No Wikipedia Cites No Wikipedia Cites is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Just how bad do natural boy goats smell?

Word on the street is that intact male goats smell something awful. Every article about goats on the web I see mentions this. It really seems to be a point of great interest.

So, country dopers, how bad is it? Are we talking skunk bad? How lasting? What kind of odor? And why do they smell so much?
Reply With Quote
Advertisements  
  #2  
Old 05-14-2012, 09:46 PM
tomndebb tomndebb is offline
Mod Rocker
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: N E Ohio
Posts: 34,571
Buck goat is not as bad as skunk, but it is pretty bad during the mating season. (The rest of the year it is mildly musky, but tolerable.) You don't want a buck goat rubbing up against you--it can take a couple of washings to get the odor out out some clothing. The only way that it is truly nauseating is if you find yourself confined in an airless room with one. (Say, if you need to do some "doctoring" in the late Autumn and you take the goat into a closed stall.)

It won't kill you. It won't even make you wish you were dead. It is just an intense, musky odor that is a bit unpleasant and kills one's appetite.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-14-2012, 09:48 PM
astro astro is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Taint of creation
Posts: 28,483
Here's a general care article, and yes they do stink.

What might be of greater concern is if the goat is going to be of any size, intact billy goats can be very aggressive and potentially quite dangerous.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-14-2012, 09:57 PM
Ulfreida Ulfreida is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
They stink because it makes the lady goats go wild. For the same reason they urinate on their front legs. What can I say?

Many male goats are disbudded as small kids (it involves searing the incipient horn bud so that it doesn't grow into a horn) and if they are to remain bucks people also sear the scent gland next to the horn bud, so they don't stink quite so much.

It isn't horrible like close-up skunk but it does kind of dominate your consciousness.

Never turn your back on a buck goat, a ram, or a bull. Ever.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-14-2012, 10:01 PM
johnpost johnpost is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
a couple stinky carboxylic acids are found in goats and named after them. they are oily so they stick around on whatever they come in contact with.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-14-2012, 10:05 PM
Rhythmdvl Rhythmdvl is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Shakedown Street
Posts: 11,173
Notes to self:

1) Stay off of No Wikipedia Cites' streets.
2) Do not accept tomndebb's invitation to dinner if he's recently been ... "doctoring."
5) Do not ask what "doctoring" is.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-14-2012, 10:17 PM
beowulff beowulff is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Scottsdale, more-or-less
Posts: 9,319
I used to raise miniature goats. The billy goats would urinate on their beards, not just their front legs. They smelled pretty ripe.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-15-2012, 12:37 AM
Patch Patch is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
What are the fly levels like with this wonderful stench?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-15-2012, 07:47 AM
Eve Eve is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
I had a goat that had no nose.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-15-2012, 07:51 AM
Musicat Musicat is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Sturgeon Bay, WI USA
Posts: 14,893
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eve View Post
I had a goat that had no nose.
So he didn't smell at all?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-15-2012, 08:36 AM
Eve Eve is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Quote:
Originally Posted by Musicat View Post
So he didn't smell at all?
* sigh *

He smelled terrible!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-15-2012, 09:42 AM
Musicat Musicat is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Sturgeon Bay, WI USA
Posts: 14,893
Ba-da-bump! You're welcome!

-- Straight Men R Us
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-15-2012, 10:57 AM
beowulff beowulff is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Scottsdale, more-or-less
Posts: 9,319
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patch View Post
What are the fly levels like with this wonderful stench?
Surprisingly, not that bad. Horses seem to attract a lot more files.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-15-2012, 11:56 AM
tomndebb tomndebb is offline
Mod Rocker
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: N E Ohio
Posts: 34,571
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhythmdvl View Post
2) Do not accept tomndebb's invitation to dinner if he's recently been ... "doctoring."
5) Do not ask what "doctoring" is.
We stopped keeping goats several summers ago.
Doctoring (as I used it very loosely), would typically be anything from treating small cuts or abrasions they have picked up while rubbing on the sides of stalls to trimming hooves. (The latter is probably not really "doctoring," but it needs to be done.) Disbudding and castrating occurs when the kids are quite young with little to no odor, so those tasks do not have an odor problem. Of course, being called out by Debbie to help with my first round of castrating the morning after we had seen Pelle the Conqueror was not a happy experience.)

By the time summer rolls around and they need to have their coats shaved down in anticipation of the summer heat, they tend to be months past breeding season and are only moderately stinky.

The amount of flies present is a function of how frequently one mucks out the stalls. With fairly regular mucking every few weeks, flies are not all that noticeable. Flies are not attracted to the musk that excites the does. (If one can afford to buy enough straw, one can muck every week, but we were never quite that rich.) Goat turds are small pellets, similar to deer turds, not the big sloppy "pies" and "road apples" of cattle and horses, so mucking does not need to be a daily event. If the straw gets deep enough to absorb and hold urine, it is past time to clean the stalls. And, to the extent that the goats can have a grassy pasture much of the time, the stalls do not fill up as quickly.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Send questions for Cecil Adams to: cecil@chicagoreader.com

Send comments about this website to: webmaster@straightdope.com

Terms of Use / Privacy Policy

Advertise on the Straight Dope!
(Your direct line to thousands of the smartest, hippest people on the planet, plus a few total dipsticks.)

Publishers - interested in subscribing to the Straight Dope?
Write to: sdsubscriptions@chicagoreader.com.

Copyright © 2013 Sun-Times Media, LLC.