The Straight Dope

Go Back   Straight Dope Message Board > Main > The Game Room

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #3401  
Old 05-25-2012, 08:39 PM
glee glee is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Quote:
Originally Posted by GuiriEnEspaņa View Post
Who would you attack, who would you lynch?
I've already voted for Fubbleskag and am prepared to attack Scathach.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GuiriEnEspaņa View Post
I think the vote is:

Scathach (3): Guiri(3242), InnerStickler(3348)
Fubbleskag (2): Choie(3245-3340), SilverJan(3238-3296), Glee(3286), Septimus(3291)
InnerStickler (1): choie(3340)
Tanaer (1): Scathach(3381)
Septimus (0): SilverJan(3296-3307)
AstralRejection (0): septimus(3254-3264,3266-3291)
SilverJan (0): septimus(3264-3266)

Not Voting (7): SilverJan, Fubbleskag, Gadarene, AstralRejection, Lightfoot, Tanaer, storyteller0910

Fubbles has not posted in almost 3 weeks, Story in almost a week.
As a Knight, I have a double vote.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GuiriEnEspaņa View Post
So, if all the neutrals want to claim now, maybe it'll be easier for whoever's left...

InnerStickler, you're a neutral? Septimus? Scathach? Fubbleskag? Glee? Tanaer? Astral? SilverJan? Lightfoot?
I'm a Lawful Good Knight.
Reply With Quote
Advertisements  
  #3402  
Old 05-25-2012, 08:41 PM
glee glee is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Quote:
Originally Posted by Astral Rejection View Post
Vote Scathach.
Quote:
Originally Posted by LightFoot View Post

Scathach
Votes need to be in bold (and I believe include the word Vote...)
Reply With Quote
  #3403  
Old 05-25-2012, 09:22 PM
Inner Stickler Inner Stickler is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by glee View Post
I've already voted for Fubbleskag and am prepared to attack Scathach.
Are you attacking magically or physically? (I'm assuming, as a knight, you're physical.) If that's the case, you should consider lynching Scathach and attacking fubbleskag as Scathach has already admitted to being resistant to physical damage.
Reply With Quote
  #3404  
Old 05-25-2012, 11:02 PM
choie choie is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Like me it never sleeps.
Posts: 3,905
Quote:
Originally Posted by LightFoot View Post
choie [/b] can you link where you claimed the attack on me?
Sadly I can't, it was via PM -- when Guiri asked people to PM him their actions either yesterday (Thursday) or Wednesday.

Sorry about the attack though. What can I say, it was Day 1, and I was pretty much picking names at random just to see how the power / attack thing worked. I'd never had that ability before.

(Of course if you turn out to be scum I'll swear up and down I was remarkably prescient! )

Oh to answer Astral: The only green thing I possess, besides a burning envy for anyone right now with a good air conditioner, is my emerald ring.

Hey speaking of items... weren't there a boatload of items up for grab? Okay, just looked back, and yes, there were. To refresh our memories:


1. Green Bow
2. Blue Bow
3. Ruby Pendant
4. Beryl Ring
5. Beryl Bracer
6. Black Bracer
7. Dragon's Fang

What the hell is a bracer? I'm gonna pass on the Fang because, ew, and also I already have the healing potion, and IIRC the point of the Fang was to keep refreshing one's health. But I would like one offensive item, just one! That lovely longsword I coveted was won by Normal and look what happed to it!

So how about...

vote Blue Bow to choie

I think this was Normal's too, and she did seem to put some damage to Phere with it. So hopefully I'll put it to good use.
Reply With Quote
  #3405  
Old 05-25-2012, 11:08 PM
Inner Stickler Inner Stickler is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Vote Dragon's Fang to Inner Stickler
Vote Black Bracer to Glee
Vote Blue Bow to choie
Reply With Quote
  #3406  
Old 05-26-2012, 01:22 AM
Astral Rejection Astral Rejection is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saint Louis ♂
Posts: 2,092
Vote Scathach
Reply With Quote
  #3407  
Old 05-26-2012, 01:39 AM
Silver Jan Silver Jan is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 708
Vote Scathach

I too trust choie more than I trust Scathach. Sorry for what looked like a back handed compliment choie, it was just meant as praise.

Another reason for my vote on Scathach is that her top 2 candidates I consider definite Town and her vote on Tanaer seems to be opportunistic.

I am Chaotic Good and have been since the beginning of the game, I didn't want to change because I quite like my role.
Reply With Quote
  #3408  
Old 05-26-2012, 01:41 AM
Silver Jan Silver Jan is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 708
vote Blue Bow to choie
Reply With Quote
  #3409  
Old 05-26-2012, 02:43 AM
septimus septimus is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Green Bow to Choie
Blue Bow to LightFoot
Ruby Pendant to Silver Jan
Beryl Ring to Astral Rejection
Beryl Bracer to Tanaer
Black Bracer to Glee
Dragon's Fang to Gadarene


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Will the Soldiers please confirm whether their attack results vary with Element alignment?

Quote:
Originally Posted by choie View Post
The only green thing I possess, besides a burning envy for anyone right now with a good air conditioner, is my emerald ring.
Where do you live? Doubt if it's as hot as Central Thailand in April. (Fortunately May has brought us some wind and rain.)

BTW, I agree that you'd be a very clever hard-to-detect Scum. I'll not be surprised if that's happening this game, but I've been throwing around too many accusations lately to toss another.

I started life as a Good Townie Mage but Chaotic. Since I was already Chaotic, promotion required switching moral and game alignments.

If there was fame or fortune at stake I'd definitely want to switch back to Good alignment since Town wins is obviously easier to achieve than Town wins AND I survive. (There is an alternate Neutral win objective -- Most wealth -- but being neither a Thief nor a popularity contest winner, it's not a real option for me.)

My attacks are more effective if I know the target's Element. That's why I wanted to Lynch Fubbles and Attack Scathach. If anyone knows Fubbles' element, please tell me. Otherwise I'll probably spend the Day giving my meager Healing Potion to Tanaer.
Reply With Quote
  #3410  
Old 05-26-2012, 03:10 AM
Scathach Scathach is online now
Guest
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by choie View Post
Sorry about the attack though. What can I say, it was Day 1, and I was pretty much picking names at random just to see how the power / attack thing worked. I'd never had that ability before.
Whereas I actually voted for Lightfoot, then attacked her that day.
Reply With Quote
  #3411  
Old 05-26-2012, 03:12 AM
GuiriEnEspaņa GuiriEnEspaņa is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Fubbles was somehow immune to the orb of light in the D5 multi-orb attack:

Attack on Fubblesksag, no damage, orb of light, unknown
Attack on Glee, 75hp, orb of water, unknown
Attack on Tanaer, 75hp, orb of earth, unknown
Attack on SuburbanPlankton, 300hp, orb of fire, unknown
Reply With Quote
  #3412  
Old 05-26-2012, 03:16 AM
glee glee is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inner Stickler View Post
Are you attacking magically or physically? (I'm assuming, as a knight, you're physical.) If that's the case, you should consider lynching Scathach and attacking fubbleskag as Scathach has already admitted to being resistant to physical damage.
Unvote Fubbleskag Vote Scathach

Quote:
Originally Posted by choie View Post

1. Green Bow
2. Blue Bow
3. Ruby Pendant
4. Beryl Ring
5. Beryl Bracer
6. Black Bracer
7. Dragon's Fang

What the hell is a bracer?
Bracers were used in Dungeons and Dragons Edition 1 (they originally come from Archery, I think.) They give magical protection and fit on your arms as leather guards.

As mentioned previously, my Black Helm was destroyed in protecting me from Lord Phere, so I'd like the Black Bracer as replacement...
Reply With Quote
  #3413  
Old 05-26-2012, 03:23 AM
Scathach Scathach is online now
Guest
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
This will probably be my last post toDay - it's crazy warm here and I'm off paintballing, then throwing a bbq later.

3 things:
-A lynch of me is just as much a mislynch for town as lynching a townie, since it won't advance towns wincon whatsoever.
-I find it surprising that no one has so much as asked a question about any of gnarlycharlies actions, given that I know them and has instead rushed in for the easy lynch
-I'm going to flip Chaotic/Evil because I had the option to switch after gnarlycharlie died and took it. Everything I said was true though, I've been Neutral/neutral all game, but town's not that friendly to neutrals so there didn't seem much point staying. And I did attack choie D1.

I also know what it was visorslash was searching for, but frankly, if there's anyone else looking for it out there I'd prefer to see them succeed rather than town. I don't have it unfortunately.
Reply With Quote
  #3414  
Old 05-26-2012, 04:07 AM
Askthepizzaguy Askthepizzaguy is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scathach View Post
PizzaMod, would sharing a link to an offboard communication thread be breaking the rules
I can't believe it's being asked, but apparently it's not explicitly barred by the rules page.
That said, I would consider this illegal.
Reply With Quote
  #3415  
Old 05-26-2012, 04:13 AM
Askthepizzaguy Askthepizzaguy is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
With regard to a Day One attack, it's easy enough to check my notes to see who recorded what action.

That said, as game moderator, I can't confirm anyone made an action, only that there was no error in the writeup on this point.
Reply With Quote
  #3416  
Old 05-26-2012, 04:33 AM
septimus septimus is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by GuiriEnEspaņa View Post
Fubbles was somehow immune to the orb of light in the D5 multi-orb attack:
According to the damage table Pizza posted initially
Code:
       Target:
      Fire  Earth Water Wind  Light Shadow
Fire    ??   Dble  Half Norm    ??     ??
Earth  Half   ??   Norm Dble    ??     ??
Water  Dble  Norm    ?? Half    ??     ??
Wind   Norm  Half  Dble   ??    ??     ??
Light  Half  Norm  Norm Half   Norm  Dble
Shadow Norm  Half  Half Norm   Dble  Norm
Light damages targets of any of the six elements, so Fubbles' resistance to Light must have had some other reason.

(In the above table "??" means the result was omitted from Pizza's post. I assume this means "No Damage" but have never tested this or asked about it.)

Anyway, I still think Lynching Fubbs is best toDay. I promise to use my Magic powers to deliver huge damage to Scathach if that is the consensus request. (I'm the one who gave her the 600hp jolt last Night: Please no hard feelings, scathach? )

Otherwise, I'll move my Lynch vote and change my Day Action. All I ask is that decision not be put off to the last moment. I'll be asleep a few hours before EOD.
Reply With Quote
  #3417  
Old 05-26-2012, 04:38 AM
Askthepizzaguy Askthepizzaguy is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
The ??'s on your chart should all be "Norm".

Game was originally going to have four elements, but I thought that was boring so I added in Light and Shadow and didn't fill in the rest of the table well enough.
Reply With Quote
  #3418  
Old 05-26-2012, 10:24 AM
Tanaer Tanaer is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Scathach, how exactly is killing you not going to advance our win condition? Clearly, you aren't a templar knight. If you're going to flip chaotic evil then you're much more likely a terror knight, and that very definitely makes you a threat to town because you have a kill! I know because I could see it while I was berserker.

vote Scathach
We need to be very careful about items Today. Is the dragon's fang the artefact that was found? We need to be very careful where things go today, given that evil people are looking for something.
Reply With Quote
  #3419  
Old 05-26-2012, 10:31 AM
MHaye MHaye is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: May 2007
Good evening ladies and Bruces.

Here is a breathlessly-awaited current Vote Count.

For the lynch.
Nine votes.
  • Scathach: Guiri (3,242), Inner Stickler II (3,348), Choie (3,393), LightFoot (3,398), Astral Rejection (3,400), Silver Jan (3,407), Glee II (3,412)1, Tanaer (3418)
One vote.
  • fubbleskag: septimus (3,291)
  • Tanaer: Scathach (3,381)

Item votes.
Beryl Bracer.
Tanaer (1): septimus (3,409)

Beryl Ring.
Astral Rejection (1): septimus (3,409)

Black Bracer.
Glee II (4): Glee (3,279)1, Inner Stickler (3,405), septimus (3,409)

Blue Bow.
Choie (3): Choie (3,404), Inner Stickler II (3,405), Silver Jan (3,408)
LightFoot (1): septimus (3,409)

Dragon's Fang
Inner Stickler II (1): Inner Stickler II (3,405)
Gadarene (1): septimus (3,409)

Green Bow
Choie (1): septimus (3,409)

Ruby Pendant
Silver Jan (1): septimus (3,409)

As usual, please draw attention to any errors in the above lists.








1Vote doubled.

Last edited by MHaye; 05-26-2012 at 10:32 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #3420  
Old 05-26-2012, 10:43 AM
Tanaer Tanaer is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by septimus View Post
[color="Purple"]

Will the Soldiers please confirm whether their attack results vary with Element alignment?

My attacks are more effective if I know the target's Element. That's why I wanted to Lynch Fubbles and Attack Scathach. If anyone knows Fubbles' element, please tell me. Otherwise I'll probably spend the Day giving my meager Healing Potion to Tanaer.
Okay, as I said, I haven't attacked anybody but Phere, so I don't have any evidence about the element thing, sorry.

Thankyou for the thought re the healing potion, and I would love to recover my HP, but I think I am most vulnerable at dusk today, so would dearly love some guarding. I will be physically guarding myself, but if anyone can give me a bit of magic shielding (or use healing on me) I may make it through the danger zone.
Reply With Quote
  #3421  
Old 05-26-2012, 10:52 AM
Tanaer Tanaer is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
[b][color=purple]Beryl Bracer: Tanaer
Black Bracer: Glee
Beryl Ring: Astral Rejection
Blue Bow: Choie
Green Bow: Gadarene
Dragon's Fang: Tanaer
Ruby Pendant: Septimus
Reply With Quote
  #3422  
Old 05-26-2012, 10:53 AM
Tanaer Tanaer is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Try that again shall I?

Beryl Bracer: Tanaer
Black Bracer: Glee
Beryl Ring: Astral Rejection
Blue Bow: Choie
Green Bow: Gadarene
Dragon's Fang: Tanaer
Ruby Pendant: Septimus
Reply With Quote
  #3423  
Old 05-26-2012, 11:05 AM
Silver Jan Silver Jan is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 708
Ruby Pendant to Silver Jan
Reply With Quote
  #3424  
Old 05-26-2012, 11:06 AM
Astral Rejection Astral Rejection is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saint Louis ♂
Posts: 2,092
Beryl Bracer: Tanaer
Black Bracer: Glee
Beryl Ring: Astral Rejection
Blue Bow: Choie
Green Bow: Gadarene
Dragon's Fang: Astral Rejection
Ruby Pendant: GuiriEnEspana
Reply With Quote
  #3425  
Old 05-26-2012, 11:07 AM
Tanaer Tanaer is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
With a bit of luck I'll actually make Bard tonight:

This means-

a) If you attack and kill me you're an utter bastard when you know I've wanted to see what it does all game.

b) Bards are good, as anyone who's a fighter will already know.

c) In a bunch of D&D and related games, bards can identify items (especially artefacts), as keepers of the lore of their age. I have no idea whether it will be the case here. If you vote me the dragon fang, it will keep it out of harm's way, and possibly get it analysed.

I wish I knew somebody I trusted implicitly as an alternative vote. I'm a bit too wary of the "coming back a bit skewed from the dead" scenario to give it to Guiri or Gad. I don't want to give it to a neutral, and we seem to have quite a few of them.

Speaking of which, Choie, are you neutral? (Clerics are neutral, and you claim healing powers)
Reply With Quote
  #3426  
Old 05-26-2012, 11:08 AM
Astral Rejection Astral Rejection is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saint Louis ♂
Posts: 2,092
I'm down with that, but I want GuiriEnEspana getting an item, so...

Ruby Pendant: Silver Jan
Black Bracer: GuiriEnEspana


There we go.
Reply With Quote
  #3427  
Old 05-26-2012, 11:09 AM
LightFoot LightFoot is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
beryl bracer: lightFoot
Dragons fang: Gad
Green bow: septimus


I don’t think choie needs or can even carry both bows.

The players vying for the dragons fang concern me. (I’d love to have it but that’s not going to happen this late in the Day)
so I'll trust Gad for the moment


I've forgotten eoD again
Reply With Quote
  #3428  
Old 05-26-2012, 11:11 AM
Tanaer Tanaer is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Jan View Post
Ruby Pendant to Silver Jan
oh well if somebody actually wants it -
unvote Ruby Pendant; Ruby Pendant: Silver Jan
Reply With Quote
  #3429  
Old 05-26-2012, 11:11 AM
Astral Rejection Astral Rejection is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saint Louis ♂
Posts: 2,092
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanaer View Post
With a bit of luck I'll actually make Bard tonight:

This means-

a) If you attack and kill me you're an utter bastard when you know I've wanted to see what it does all game.
For this very reason, you're safe from me toDay. I totally understand really wanting to see a role. The Dragon's Fang sounds powerful, though, so I'm not going to vote it to you.
Reply With Quote
  #3430  
Old 05-26-2012, 11:13 AM
LightFoot LightFoot is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
To be clear I think the dragon's fang could be dangerous in the wrong hands. I know I would not use it for evil- hence my comment about wanting to have it.
of the players in the running for said item I'm more inclined towards Gad
Reply With Quote
  #3431  
Old 05-26-2012, 11:14 AM
Astral Rejection Astral Rejection is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saint Louis ♂
Posts: 2,092
I'm down with Gad getting the Dragon's Fang.


Dragon's Fang: Gadarene
Reply With Quote
  #3432  
Old 05-26-2012, 11:15 AM
Tanaer Tanaer is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by LightFoot View Post
beryl bracer: lightFoot
Dragons fang: Gad
Green bow: septimus


I don’t think choie needs or can even carry both bows.

The players vying for the dragons fang concern me. (I’d love to have it but that’s not going to happen this late in the Day)
so I'll trust Gad for the moment


I've forgotten eoD again
Was EOD 5pm Sat??

I'm worried about the fang too! (But that's why I voted myself for it)
I would previously have loved to trust Gad too. I'm just worried re the resurrectees. If people won't trust me with it I'll consider Gad as a second option tho. At least he's someone I trusted up until death.
Reply With Quote
  #3433  
Old 05-26-2012, 11:16 AM
Inner Stickler Inner Stickler is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanaer View Post
Scathach, how exactly is killing you not going to advance our win condition? Clearly, you aren't a templar knight. If you're going to flip chaotic evil then you're much more likely a terror knight, and that very definitely makes you a threat to town because you have a kill! I know because I could see it while I was berserker.
This is a subject that has been contentious in the past. There are 2 types of third party roles. Some, like the survivor role, are called Win Inclusive. They win with either town or scum and don't prevent a team from winning. Sometimes people refer to these players as Third Party. The other type, such as a serial killer, are called Win Exclusive. They steal the win, and prevent any other teams from winning. They are sometimes called Plays For Keeps, or PFK. The conventional wisdom says lynching a Third Party is a mislynch, while lynching a PFK is not. If there's a game with 16 players, 4 are mafia, 1 is a survivor and 11 are town, lynching the survivor on the first day is functionally equivalent to starting the game with 15 players.

Scathach is claiming that her role is not one that is considered a threat to town. Since town wins by eliminating its threats, lynching her does not advance town's wincon. Having a kill or not is sort of irrelevant. A vig has a kill and is definitely a mislynch. It's a matter of how does the lynch affect the game state.
Reply With Quote
  #3434  
Old 05-26-2012, 11:28 AM
Tanaer Tanaer is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inner Stickler View Post
This is a subject that has been contentious in the past. There are 2 types of third party roles. Some, like the survivor role, are called Win Inclusive. They win with either town or scum and don't prevent a team from winning. Sometimes people refer to these players as Third Party. The other type, such as a serial killer, are called Win Exclusive. They steal the win, and prevent any other teams from winning. They are sometimes called Plays For Keeps, or PFK. The conventional wisdom says lynching a Third Party is a mislynch, while lynching a PFK is not. If there's a game with 16 players, 4 are mafia, 1 is a survivor and 11 are town, lynching the survivor on the first day is functionally equivalent to starting the game with 15 players.

Scathach is claiming that her role is not one that is considered a threat to town. Since town wins by eliminating its threats, lynching her does not advance town's wincon. Having a kill or not is sort of irrelevant. A vig has a kill and is definitely a mislynch. It's a matter of how does the lynch affect the game state.
Thanks for the explanation.

I think though that in this game keeping her around is making it worse for town at the very least because:
- too much lying is at the very least keeping too much of our attention
- she's already admitted to chaotic evil. She's saying she's not original scum team, but chances are she's effective scum by now.
- if she doesn't get lynched, she'll probably NK a townie (Guiri's pretty likely a townie, and seems her main target). So we'll be down one extra for her survival.
Reply With Quote
  #3435  
Old 05-26-2012, 11:53 AM
Tanaer Tanaer is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by Astral Rejection View Post
For this very reason, you're safe from me toDay. I totally understand really wanting to see a role. The Dragon's Fang sounds powerful, though, so I'm not going to vote it to you.
Well, I might be a crap player, but I'm as trustworthy as they come. I've been really up front with you guys. We might have known what it does by Dawn. Oh well, I can't stay up any longer to try and convince you. I'll try to set a pre EOD alarm in case people change their mind, but if it's really only 4 hours away I'm not sure I'll wake.

unvote Dragon's Fang; Dragon's Fang: Gadarene
Reply With Quote
  #3436  
Old 05-26-2012, 12:16 PM
choie choie is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Like me it never sleeps.
Posts: 3,905
Quote:
Originally Posted by septimus View Post
Green Bow to Choie
Blue Bow to LightFoot
Ruby Pendant to Silver Jan
Beryl Ring to Astral Rejection
Beryl Bracer to Tanaer
Black Bracer to Glee
Dragon's Fang to Gadarene
Thanks septimus! As mentioned below, though, maybe you can change the Green and Blue Bow votes? I mean you can do as you like, obviously, but I don't need both bows, and I don't know if LightFoot has any offensive weapons, so I'm happy for her to have one (assuming she's Town, obv.).

Quote:
Originally Posted by septimus View Post
Where do you live? Doubt if it's as hot as Central Thailand in April. (Fortunately May has brought us some wind and rain.)
OOG: NYC, and it's not even unseasonably warm, but my apartment was stuffy as hell last night for some reason. I had to keep the window closed because traffic was unbelievably noisy last night. (I'm right near the lead-up to the Queensborough Bridge, so when that's clogged, the traffic backs up on East 58th street for like five blocks.) When summer comes, it's probably still not has hot as Thailand, but it's probably almost as uncomfortable. The steel canyons here in the city trap the heat and humidity like a mofo. (The only good thing about summer in the city here is that so many people leave over the weekends, it gets blissfully quiet for a change.)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scathach View Post
This will probably be my last post toDay - it's crazy warm here and I'm off paintballing, then throwing a bbq later.
Can I have your life? That sounds awesome.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scathach View Post
I also know what it was visorslash was searching for, but frankly, if there's anyone else looking for it out there I'd prefer to see them succeed rather than town. I don't have it unfortunately.
Sooooo evil Visorslash was looking for something of ultimate power, and you'd rather have Scum or a third party get it than Town? Yeowch. That's your self-signed death warrant right there. Also, honestly, I won't believe you're a Knight of any kind considering you don't have two votes. Unless you just became Knight Today? (But if that were the case you'd've corrected Guiri's vote count.) So, yeah.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanaer View Post
Speaking of which, Choie, are you neutral? (Clerics are neutral, and you claim healing powers)
Not a cleric, nope. To avoid quoting from my PM, I'll just say I have nothing in common with Switzerland's traditional stance, nor do I share an alignment with Visorslash. Also, I am quite obedient when it comes to the laws of the land, almost boringly so.

Looking at all of the above item votes, I'll add the following to my previous self-interested vote:

Beryl Bracer: Tanaer
Black Bracer: Glee
Beryl Ring: Astral Rejection
Green Bow: LightFoot
Dragon's Fang: Silver Jan
Ruby Pendant: Silver Jan


Tanaer gets the Bracer because apparently that helps defensively, and she said she needs it, and hey, I'm a musician (or was) so Bards are a-okay in my book.

Glee gets his Black Bracer to make up for the loss of his helm. Whatever that was.

Astra gets the ring because well, he wants it so what hell, and I trust him.

LightFoot gets the green bow because I think she wanted it. Or I could be mistaken.

I'm extremely leery of the Dragon's Fant; it really sounds more like a curse than an object someone good can use. But if I'm gonna trust anyone with it, it'll be Silver Jan, because I rather like having her around. She also gets the ruby pendant because she wanted it, and I owe her.

I would've voted something to Guiri except I'm pretty sure he has a lot of things already, so might as well spread the wealth.

Finally: thanks MHaye for pitching in beyond the grave with the vote count!
Reply With Quote
  #3437  
Old 05-26-2012, 12:18 PM
choie choie is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Like me it never sleeps.
Posts: 3,905
What the hell is a Dragon's fant? Nimrod. I meant Fang, obviously.
Reply With Quote
  #3438  
Old 05-26-2012, 12:29 PM
Astral Rejection Astral Rejection is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saint Louis ♂
Posts: 2,092
Quote:
Originally Posted by choie View Post
Astra gets the ring because well, he wants it so what hell, and I trust him.
It was already being voted to me, I might as well toss my own vote in for it.
Reply With Quote
  #3439  
Old 05-26-2012, 01:46 PM
septimus septimus is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Unvote Bows.
Green Bow to Septimus
Blue Bow to Choie


Signing off for the day ... and the Day....
Reply With Quote
  #3440  
Old 05-26-2012, 02:18 PM
GuiriEnEspaņa GuiriEnEspaņa is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
I think this is correct...

Beryl Bracer.
Tanaer (4): septimus (3,409), Tanaer(3422), AstralRejection(3424), choie(3436)
Lightfoot (1): Lightfoot(3427)

Beryl Ring.
Astral Rejection (4): septimus (3,409), Tanaer(3422), AstralRejection(3424), choie(3436)

Black Bracer.
Glee II (6): Glee (3,279)1, Inner Stickler (3,405), septimus (3,409), Tanaer(3422), choie(3436)
Guiri (1): AstralRejection(3426)

Blue Bow.
Choie (6): Choie (3,404), Inner Stickler II (3,405), Silver Jan (3,408), Tanaer(3422), AstralRejection(3424), septimus (3,439)

Dragon's Fang
Inner Stickler II (1): Inner Stickler II (3,405)
Gadarene (4): septimus (3,409), Lightfoot(3427), AstralRejection(3431), Tanaer(3435)
SilverJan (1): choie(3436)

Green Bow
Gadarene (2): Tanaer(3422), AstralRejection(3424)
Septimus (2): Lightfoot(3427), septimus(3439)
Lightfoot (1): choie(3436)

Ruby Pendant
Silver Jan (5): septimus (3,409), SilverJan(3423), AstralRejection(3426), Tanaer(3428), choie(3436)

It's somewhat disconcerting to see so much agreement in the lynch votes and for several of the items.

Beryl bracer Tanaer
Beryl ring Astral
Black bracer Guiri
Blue bow choie
Dragons fang Gadarene
Green bow Gadarene
Ruby pendant silverjan
Reply With Quote
  #3441  
Old 05-26-2012, 02:37 PM
choie choie is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Like me it never sleeps.
Posts: 3,905
Quote:
Originally Posted by GuiriEnEspaņa View Post
It's somewhat disconcerting to see so much agreement in the lynch votes and for several of the items.
Yeah, I agree; there must be bussing going on big time.

I really think the idea that there's no cohesive scum group, but rather a batch of individuals working loosely together but with their own hope of ultimate power, is the right one. We're probably dealing with people who specifically chose their own path of evil, jockeying for power for whoever controls the big bad demon. I like this theory for three reasons:

a) It feels like the only explanation that makes sense considering we've seen several neutrals and a few Evils but no one specifically labelled "Scum." I know it's possible for Scum teams to have a "perfect" record, not a single person lynched, but it's rare from all I've seen.

b) It seems the sort of wacked-out set-up that pizza would create

c) It creates a rather neat theme/story, which is a really nice change from most of the Mafia games I've read / participated in. People aren't inherently "scum," but through their own choices they've turned evil. Power corrupts, absolutely power corrupts absolutely. Very common fantasy theme. (Actually, in most fiction.)
Reply With Quote
  #3442  
Old 05-26-2012, 02:44 PM
LightFoot LightFoot is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
As to the items. I have a few and I have no clue what they are for. so it's easy to say 'ok' if you want it go ahead. BUT the players that really want an item may know what it is for so be aware.
And again I have no clue to mine. but that dragon's tooth appears to be powerful and we know the black helm was
Reply With Quote
  #3443  
Old 05-26-2012, 03:18 PM
fubbleskag fubbleskag is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Dragons fang Gadarene
Reply With Quote
  #3444  
Old 05-26-2012, 03:23 PM
GuiriEnEspaņa GuiriEnEspaņa is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Welcome back Fubbles. Any thoughts?
Reply With Quote
  #3445  
Old 05-26-2012, 03:36 PM
MHaye MHaye is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: May 2007
Let's do the Vote Count again!

For the lynch.
Nine votes.
  • Scathach: Guiri (3,242), Inner Stickler II (3,348), Choie (3,393), LightFoot (3,398), Astral Rejection (3,400), Silver Jan (3,407), Glee II (3,412)1, Tanaer (3418)
One vote.
  • fubbleskag: septimus (3,291)
  • Tanaer: Scathach (3,381)

Item votes.
Beryl Bracer.
Tanaer (5): septimus (3,409), Tanaer (3,422), Astral Rejection (3,424), Choie (3,436), Guiri (3,440)
LightFoot (1): LightFoot (3,427)

Beryl Ring.
Astral Rejection (5): septimus (3,409), Tanaer (3,422), Astral Rejection (3,424), Choie (3,436), Guiri (3,440)

Black Bracer.
Glee II (7): Glee (3,279)1, Inner Stickler (3,405), septimus (3,409), Tanaer (3,422), Astral Rejection (3,424), Choie (3,436)
Guiri (1): Guiri (3,440)

Blue Bow.
Choie (7): Choie (3,404), Inner Stickler II (3,405), Silver Jan (3,408), Tanaer (3,422), Astral Rejection (3,424), septimus (3,439), Guiri (3,440)

Dragon's Fang
Gadarene (5): septimus (3,409), LightFoot (3,427)Tanaer (3,435), Guiri (3,440), fubbleskag (3,443)
Inner Stickler II (1): Inner Stickler II (3,405)
Astral Rejection (1): Astral Rejection (3,424)
Silver Jan (1): Choie (3,436)

Green Bow
Gadarene (3): Tanaer (3,422), Astral Rejection (3,424), Guiri (3.440)
septimus (2): LightFoot (3,427), septimus (3,439)
LightFoot (1): Choie (3,436)

Ruby Pendant
Silver Jan (5): septimus (3,409), Silver Jan (3,423), Tanaer (3,428), Choie (3.436), Guiri (3,440)
Guiri (1): Astral Rejection (3,424)

As usual, please draw attention to any errors in the above lists.









1Vote doubled.
[/quote]
Reply With Quote
  #3446  
Old 05-26-2012, 03:47 PM
GuiriEnEspaņa GuiriEnEspaņa is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
MHaye, my vote should be doubled too.
Reply With Quote
  #3447  
Old 05-26-2012, 04:03 PM
MHaye MHaye is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: May 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by GuiriEnEspaņa View Post
MHaye, my vote should be doubled too.
Thanks for the info.

It's Dusk now, so the point is moot. But should corrections be necessary I'll remember.
Reply With Quote
  #3448  
Old 05-26-2012, 04:05 PM
choie choie is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Like me it never sleeps.
Posts: 3,905
You have a double vote, Guiri? When did this happen?!
Reply With Quote
  #3449  
Old 05-26-2012, 04:18 PM
GuiriEnEspaņa GuiriEnEspaņa is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by choie View Post
You have a double vote, Guiri? When did this happen?!
Last Night, as I said earlier:
Quote:
Originally Posted by GuiriEnEspaņa View Post
Night 5
Promoted to WhiteKnight
Reply With Quote
  #3450  
Old 05-26-2012, 04:21 PM
choie choie is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Like me it never sleeps.
Posts: 3,905
My stars, I totally missed that. Well, that's good to know.

So can we have a count on who exactly has double votes now?

- Guiri
- Glee
...?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Send questions for Cecil Adams to: cecil@chicagoreader.com

Send comments about this website to: webmaster@straightdope.com

Terms of Use / Privacy Policy

Advertise on the Straight Dope!
(Your direct line to thousands of the smartest, hippest people on the planet, plus a few total dipsticks.)

Publishers - interested in subscribing to the Straight Dope?
Write to: sdsubscriptions@chicagoreader.com.

Copyright Š 2013 Sun-Times Media, LLC.