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Old 05-31-2012, 12:06 AM
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My Personal Theory of Everything (Kaleidoscopic Reality)

My intentions in this thread are the following: To sew together every "Personal Belief Theory" that I have gathered since I was a small child, into the intricate web of thought it currently is, but able to be perceived as the tapestry of sound reasoning that it is. The fact is any "effect", "acton", "reaction", or "observation" made in our current perception is subject to psychological programming or conceptual bias. Meaning there is no guarantee of any cosmic effect, ie. Perception of color, time, thought, speech or any other common physical, mental, or spiritual constant.For instance, when looking at an apple, we know its red, but only because we were taught, "the apple is red" though i may see it as say, brown or purple, or maybe it is in fact a granny smith apple and I perceive it to be pink. You see it as deep blue, but alas it is a red delicious and a green granny smith because our brains are repetitively told, that is red, this is green. It doesn't matter what color we see, we associate them the same way, despite any knowing of the light spectrum, no one could ever deny the light spectrum as a common reference to this argument, because we still associate the same colors even on the given light spectrum. The same can be said for consciousness, whose to say you are awake right now or not, perhaps the reason why we sleep at all is to live our real lives and this is the dream. We cannot bridge this gap to find out whether this is true or not. Like the perception of light, I believe we are in a constant state of flux between the conscious and unconscious states. For instance I believe I am in my bed right now, being retold the events of this message in chronological order as a dream, think of it as auto pilot, I was going to post this message anyway based on what I know, my experiences, call it cause and effect.Consciousness had no real place in this happening. I may only be observing my actions as an audience not necessarily the observer, call it fate or eventual happenstance. When tested this theology checks out. Deja vu, life flashing before our eyes before death, the lack of memory before the age of 5 or so, perhaps that is why small children never want to sleep, they would rather continue the constant input and who knows, they might lack the linguistic facilities, to say "I have active control over what I am doing right now", while the parent is steeped in repetition and habit. There will be two more parts to this current discipline of theory coming soon. Please add comments, share similar thoughts and any positive feedback, criticism, or question will be addresses and responses to under the current set of theories.
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:08 AM
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:25 AM
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Paragraphs might aid in the perception of this sound reasoning.
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:37 AM
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My nokia n8 doesn't allow for line breaks for some reason, i'm on my n95 now. I'll fix it shortly on a pc, also that was supposed to end as addressed and responded to... Again some bad cell phone editing sorry, remember, this is like a tip of a microscopic airborn ice particle in a cave on the tip of a rather large iceberg, give me a bit of time to spread the base coat.
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:47 AM
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maybe it would work
Manually... Aha n95 is better than n8, weird... Sorry but if i'm going to post these in succession i will have to be doing it on the move.
Line break test
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Old 05-31-2012, 02:04 AM
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Perhaps what you perceive as a Nokia N95 is the same as what I perceive as a Nokia N8, or a teaspoon.
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Old 05-31-2012, 02:05 AM
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Or in short, it sounds like you're saying there is no objective reality. I refute it thus! (ouch!)
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Old 05-31-2012, 06:54 AM
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Mister Anderson-welcome back.
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Old 05-31-2012, 03:23 PM
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Even if we perceive colors differently (and this goes into the gnarly philosophical area of "qualia," which you will find pretty damn controversial around here,) we can perform simple experiments.

I ask you, "Point to the red automobile." You do so. In a titanically overwhelming number of instances, you and I are observing the same car. We may experience the color differently internally, but as far as external objects, we are on the same page.

This works well enough for humanity to have built an information-age civilization. If we all perceived things so very differently as to make communication impossible, then that couldn't have happened.

Our minds and perceptions are similar. I'll never see that car exactly the same way you do...but I trust you to drive it on a crowded freeway. I will literally stake my life on it.
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Old 05-31-2012, 07:54 PM
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Origin theory next then back to part 2 of dream theory

Between 2am and 4am watch the sky between 90° of the big dipper handle out 2/3 of the sky meeting with the same 30° declination of cassiopeia 2/3 of the sky, that is your window, wait at least 1hr for your eyes to adjust, it is nifty to have screen brightener/flashlight app for communication, you may eventually see blinking objects but seemingly intelligent in action, test this theory, dare you to try, could just change things, word yo the wise Don't be surprise if they take a few pictures, every once in a while they flash very brightly as if taking a picture, if you choose that moment to use your source of light to respond, that would be the best time. Also sometimes use your peripheral vision to pick out moving faint objects, the ones i'm talking about always seem to be mere satillites, but trust me the right ones aren't, over 30 in less than one hour recently, Happy sightings
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:06 PM
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Perhaps what you perceive as a Nokia N95 is the same as what I perceive as a Nokia N8, or a teaspoon.
All tools...that will be covered in "universal spectral compression" like think of our perception, 5 senses, as an mp3 waveform is a compression of full fidelity audio, our perception has few and many restraints
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:06 PM
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the ones i'm talking about always seem to be mere satillites, but trust me the right ones aren't, over 30 in less than one hour recently, Happy sightings

(my bold)

Ok, I'm with you on everything until right here; here you've lost me.
What are these "right ones" of which you speak? If they aren't satellites, what are they? Aliens?

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Old 05-31-2012, 08:09 PM
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If the idea that perceived colors might be arbitraily different from person to person, then the objective, intrinsic properties of luminance as it pertains to wavelength would disagree if we arbitraily shifted the spectrum, and mixed swatches of what you and I might call "yellow" and "cyan."

I believe this to be a fallacy from the start.

I've attempted to demonstrate this by creating this illustration/diagram.
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:14 PM
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Interesting. You argue in favor of an epistemology in which validating truth claims is impossible. And you then follow up with a post about UFOs.

Usually those two events occur in the opposite order.

The only logical conclusion is that you're a time traveler who's traveling backwards through time.

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Old 05-31-2012, 08:16 PM
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[snip]...Also sometimes use your peripheral vision to pick out moving faint objects, the ones i'm talking about always seem to be mere satillites, but trust me the right ones aren't, over 30 in less than one hour recently, Happy sightings
Dooood.

Cosmic ray visual phenomena.

Careful there with the assumption jumping. You may fall of the edge of the earth.
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:32 PM
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Ok, I'm with you on everything until right here; here you've lost me.
What are these "right ones" of which you speak? If they aren't satellites, what are they? Aliens?
I don't know if they are aliens but I do know according to current admitted "human capability", the same movement is not possible with current technology, admittedly...
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:38 PM
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Dooood.

Cosmic ray visual phenomena.

Careful there with the assumption jumping. You may fall of the edge of the earth.
that wasn't what I was referring to, these are not simple solar particles refracting around the rods and cones trust me on that, have patience don't judge until you try
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:45 PM
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I don't know if they are aliens but I do know according to current admitted "human capability", the same movement is not possible with current technology, admittedly...
Care to describe this particular movement?

Also, I wouldn't be so sure on what you do and do not know about man-made stuff and what they can or cannot do. There are also visual phenomena that are perceived anywhere and everywhere within our optical perception system (e.g. Vitreous fluid; retina; optic nerves, occipital lobes in the brain; migraine prisms; etc.) that doesn't need to resort to UFOs and aliens being the only explanation.
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:47 PM
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Do Nokia phones have any apps for keeping track of your meds?
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:48 PM
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that wasn't what I was referring to, these are not simple solar particles refracting around the rods and cones trust me on that, have patience don't judge until you try
Until I try what? Sitting outside in the middle of the night, staring at the northern constellations, until I see blinky moving things that I should summon with my flashing iPhone app, until I take a picture of them taking a picture of me?

ETA: BWAH?!

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Do Nokia phones have any apps for keeping track of your meds?
Ahh, iShrooms. I'll pass.
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If the idea that perceived colors might be arbitraily different from person to person, then the objective, intrinsic properties of luminance as it pertains to wavelength would disagree if we arbitraily shifted the spectrum, and mixed swatches of what you and I might call "yellow" and "cyan."

I believe this to be a fallacy from the start.

I've attempted to demonstrate this by creating this illustration/diagram.
first be aware that I am working my way up to quantum level great slowly but I first have to start with an idealistic basis, we aren't just matter and energy after all. I thought about luminosity, transparency alternate light softens neither we nor technology cannot observe. The end result is always the same, the observances are based on memory formed through experience knowledge and consensual reality. Doesn't matter what you may see, you do see the "proper" color whatever other variable is applied within the confines of human perception. But only transferred through speech, which will be covered in "Memory, Knowledge, Belief Transference/Intricate Recall Transference"
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:58 PM
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Until I try what? Sitting outside in the middle of the night, staring at the northern constellations, until I see blinky moving things that I should summon with my flashing iPhone app, until I take a picture of them taking a picture of me?

ETA: BWAH?!
yeah petty much it's kinda fun, but writers when it finally goes down leaving you with questions, "goes down" in the metaphorical sense, meaning the thing that happens that's different from the every day
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:00 PM
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first be aware that I am working my way up to quantum level great slowly but I first have to start with an idealistic basis, we aren't just matter and energy after all. I thought about luminosity, transparency alternate light softens neither we nor technology cannot observe. The end result is always the same, the observances are based on memory formed through experience knowledge and consensual reality. Doesn't matter what you may see, you do see the "proper" color whatever other variable is applied within the confines of human perception. But only transferred through speech, which will be covered in "Memory, Knowledge, Belief Transference/Intricate Recall Transference"
If you want anyone here to take you seriously, you really need to work on punctuation and, well, coherency.

This reads as a wall of doublespeak. Good luck with all that. Au dieu!
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first be aware that I am working my way up to quantum level great slowly but I first have to start with an idealistic basis, we aren't just matter and energy after all. I thought about luminosity, transparency alternate light softens neither we nor technology cannot observe. The end result is always the same, the observances are based on memory formed through experience knowledge and consensual reality. Doesn't matter what you may see, you do see the "proper" color whatever other variable is applied within the confines of human perception. But only transferred through speech, which will be covered in "Memory, Knowledge, Belief Transference/Intricate Recall Transference"
You know, if you had a blog you could inflict this on so many more people than just us.

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Old 05-31-2012, 09:10 PM
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Care to describe this particular movement?

Also, I wouldn't be so sure on what you do and do not know about man-made stuff and what they can or cannot do. There are also visual phenomena that are perceived anywhere and everywhere within our optical perception system (e.g. Vitreous fluid; retina; optic nerves, occipital lobes in the brain; migraine prisms; etc.) that doesn't need to resort to UFOs and aliens being the only explanation.
so I guess what you are saying is there is no possible way this person could share anything more important then every other regular joe, though there is no way you could be sure what kind of person I am but what if this time just happened to be that one time when someone might actually sit above the totem pole and wondering why they like the pole so much, there is not much you can say that I haven't had any angle at, don't think for one second i'm some sort of internet floozy, this is a series of serious personal theories/beliefs i'm sharing for the purpose of putting it together into one picture, insight is nice but don't think about tearing anything down, because by the time you see what i'm getting at I may not have to finish the theory, it all fits together nicely as is.

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First you need a hypothesis. No wait, communication is worthless if you can't communicate. So work on that first.

Otherwise all you have is you navel lint, arranged all pretty, but fairly meaningless.

Likewise, I've heard it all; scientific, philosophical and metaphysical... enjoy your totem pole before it topples.

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You know, if you had a blog you could inflict this on so many more people than just us.
compliment or satire, I honestly can't tell anymore
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:19 PM
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It's a multifaceted comment meant to reflect an illusory eternal truth.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:21 PM
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It's a multifaceted comment meant to reflect an illusory eternal truth.
Lose the period at the end of your sentence if you want to communicate transcendental wisdom
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:48 PM
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:09 PM
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I think you're onto something there, voltaire. Your theory is almost complete.
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If the idea that perceived colors might be arbitraily different from person to person, then the objective, intrinsic properties of luminance as it pertains to wavelength would disagree if we arbitraily shifted the spectrum, and mixed swatches of what you and I might call "yellow" and "cyan."

I believe this to be a fallacy from the start.

I've attempted to demonstrate this by creating this illustration/diagram.
Nice diagram. And appropriate username.
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Between 2am and 4am watch the sky between 90° of the big dipper handle out 2/3 of the sky meeting with the same 30° declination of cassiopeia 2/3 of the sky, that is your window, wait at least 1hr for your eyes to adjust, it is nifty to have screen brightener/flashlight app for communication, you may eventually see blinking objects but seemingly intelligent in action, test this theory, dare you to try, could just change things, word yo the wise Don't be surprise if they take a few pictures, every once in a while they flash very brightly as if taking a picture, if you choose that moment to use your source of light to respond, that would be the best time. Also sometimes use your peripheral vision to pick out moving faint objects, the ones i'm talking about always seem to be mere satillites, but trust me the right ones aren't, over 30 in less than one hour recently, Happy sightings
Are you just elaborately quoting the lyrics to Incubus songs?

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So what's your point with all of this? What ultimate statement are you driving at? Just come out with it man! Because all this just sounds like schizophrenic madness to me.
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Oh, just, y'know... The first person in human history to have figured out what it all means, man. As soon as the theory's complete, we'll all be enlightened and one with the extraterrestrial hegemony seeking out smartphone-class civilizations.

Until the weed wears off.
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This is where controversy may arise. The origin of adam and eve interests me greatly, many cultures refer to a special alpha man and alpha woman, most of the time the man has had a hand in either the creation or protection of eve, but somehow the bible manages to do both and also have adam leave eve's side long enough to be tempted with "knowledge" by a strange legless creature with the inherent ability to speak.This is where my stance has a wider gate, be reminded that this is a personal belief and as such spiritual aspects of the overall meme may not inherently agree, though the base principle in any instance spills trying to with most common spiritual beliefs, ay the very last a reflection of christianity, though I am not, most principles are similar or shared.let's begin, imagine (...do it) instead of an apple lets say the fruit is the knowledge of fire, given to adam and eve at the same time. Now lets say they discovered things they could do with fire, boil water, burn things, create light, cook food. Change the backdrop, a cave man comes home after hearing his wife has chested on him, and for the first time the man instead of instinctively challenging the other man first goes into a rage rips pitt his hair throws rocks and sparks one of a wall just right and ignites the first man made fire, suddenly cave mans wife doesn't seem so important, he had somehow harnessed the power of god, because up until thus point only man and beast have seen fire as a result gods wraith, lightening. So this particular cave man gains power through knowledge of fire creation build an empire declares himself god, and writes what could become the first remnants of an all powerful manual of the universe.Back to adam and eve, lets say instead the serpent gives the gift of gab to adam and eve, with trip simple conditions, there will be spoken lies whispered by the seen, and written truth protected and upheld by unseen. Giving two parties (angels - interdimensional beings) (demons - higher plane biological beings) a fair playing field on which to sway a budding culture towards evil and good in hopes one side will win.Back to adam and eve, and their gift of fire given as the fruit of knowledge, this is where the tree comes in, landslides the fruit is separate from the tree, fruit after all is the result of time and nourishment. Where fire is the near opposite of fruit. In continuum, the eventual finding of fire as a tool would lead to having a limited amount of real applications of fire, then experimenting begins.Adam and eve sit down wind from a lit campfire and begin to have a reaction to something burning, mint for instance would have a interesting effect when burned in a fire, so they start trying different things to achieve a new effect, until finally there is nothing left to burn to see what reaction if any could be had by the given substance.But there it's always the tree, the glowing beautiful and ambient tree of life, that is oddly shaped like a small christmas tree...And the things they saw and did after that first breath I would say may have giving birth to the breadth of ideas and subsequent knowledge that we enjoy today.
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So what's your point with all of this? What ultimate statement are you driving at? Just come out with it man! Because all this just sounds like schizophrenic madness to me.
while I hope that's not something you could associate with, there is no ultimate display of prowess, no ultimate line it is a collection of thought I'm sharing and putting out there to see what others think about my perceptual angle, and simply finally getting it all down in one place on the move
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Although the shape of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was actually an ominous, obsidian-black hexahedron (ratio 1:4:9), you've just described the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Arthur C. Clarke beat you by about 45 years. Congratulations.

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Are you just elaborately quoting the lyrics to Incubus songs?
really? I only like a couple of their songs, which one are you referring to?
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Although the shape of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was actually an ominous, obsidian-black hexahedron (ratio 1:4:9), you've just described the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Arthur C. Clarke beat you by about 45 years. Congratulations.
Really?! That's what you got out of it? I read it as a description of Adam and Eve first discovering the pleasures of a weed-high after standing down-wind from some potheads. I'm not very smart though.
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Although the shape of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was actually an ominous, obsidian-black hexahedron (ratio 1:4:9), you've just described the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Arthur C. Clarke beat you by about 45 years. Congratulations.
I don't really know much about that movie other than it's existence and about 10 mins I might have seen on a movie network a while ago that may actually have been a scene from space balls or possibly an apollo mission... kidding about that last one, those most certainly aren't fake especially the one with tom hanks, they must have paid him a million bucks to go up there and bring those guys back to life, not to mention rebrush the chunk of moon that blow off in the new high range recaptures of the moon for the movie in real D 3d
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Really?! That's what you got out of it? I read it as a description of Adam and Eve first discovering the pleasures of a weed-high after standing down-wind from some potheads. I'm not very smart though.
Replace "Adam and Eve" with our evolutionary ancestors, the "Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil" with the "Monolith", "Fire" with the "Tools of Mankind", and "weed" with a haunting score and inspiring cinematography, then yep.

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I don't really know much about that movie other than it's existence and about 10 mins I might have seen on a movie network a while ago that may actually have been a scene from space balls or possibly an apollo mission... kidding about that last one, those most certainly aren't fake especially the one with tom hanks, they must have paid him a million bucks to go up there and bring those guys back to life, not to mention rebrush the chunk of moon that blow off in the new high range recaptures of the moon for the movie in real D 3d
First, your ideas aren't original.

Second, WTF are you talking about, dude?
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Replace "Adam and Eve" with our evolutionary ancestors, the "Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil" with the "Monolith", "Fire" with the "Tools of Mankind", and "weed" with a haunting score and inspiring cinematography, then yep.



First, your ideas aren't original.

Second, WTF are you talking about, dude?
Hmm... Labored, anyway I never said or mentioned any guarantee of unique mindedness, or an original thought, (punctuation) I AM SIMPLY trying to form a network of thought that may include the most dire principles of existence in our perceived reality, and interpret them in such a way that needs no warranted access of different thinking to validate it's expression, in basic terms stay sitting there engage the thought listen. If uninterested move on like normal people do not standing at a gate like a naked troll shouting fus ro da just because you think these message boards are sitting here like a dungeon waiting to be conquered, and like the battle mage some times does over steps his bounds and turned it into chess then into checkers just for fun, small minded prick with no real opinion. <see a period but not here> hmm
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Old 06-01-2012, 12:20 AM
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As Carl Sagan put it, to paraphrase, we're the culmination of what happens when you leave untold hydrogen atoms alone in the universe for about 14 billion years.

Everything else you're saying is just meandering metaphors and enlightened posturing on the internet with strangers.
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Old 06-01-2012, 12:26 AM
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Also, this message board isn't for fun. It's for tears and dispair. Have you seen the goat?
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Old 06-01-2012, 12:31 AM
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What is this goat you speak of?
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Old 06-01-2012, 12:34 AM
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What is this goat you speak of?
SDMB Mascot. Poor bastard.
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