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Old 06-10-2012, 07:47 AM
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Magic mushrooms = conspiracy to overthrow the government

Can anyone explain the connection between the two? A co-worker of mine told me that a friend of his got busted with psilocybin mushrooms and was charged with conspiracy to overthrow the government. I've also read online that getting caught with LSD will net you the same charge. Why? How does that work?
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:56 AM
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Can you provide a cite for this? I have never heard of anything like this. IIRC mushrooms and LSD are Class III drugs, possession/use of which is a low grade felony.
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:58 AM
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Can anyone explain the connection between the two? A co-worker of mine told me that a friend of his got busted with psilocybin mushrooms and was charged with conspiracy to overthrow the government. I've also read online that getting caught with LSD will net you the same charge. Why? How does that work?
Where did you read this online? Cite?
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:00 AM
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I've never heard of such a thing, at least in the US. I do believe that one of the reasons that Treason was defined in the Constitution was to prevent the perceived misuse of British treason charges for all sorts of general naughty behavior that was only remotely connected with the survival of the government.
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:01 AM
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Well I can't cite my co-worker, I just take his word for it. But for the LSD thing:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/show...umber/12699638
http://summitpreventionalliance.org/...ance-Abuse.pdf
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...ssage22751/pg3
http://dmt.tribe.net/thread/80432b45...c-479b1d75882f

Search for the term "conspiracy" in those links to find what I'm talking about.
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:10 AM
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Well I can't cite my co-worker, I just take his word for it. But for the LSD thing:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/show...umber/12699638
http://summitpreventionalliance.org/...ance-Abuse.pdf
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...ssage22751/pg3
http://dmt.tribe.net/thread/80432b45...c-479b1d75882f

Search for the term "conspiracy" in those links to find what I'm talking about.

I didn't read all of those links but it seems like a bunch of kids referencing themselves and some Urban Legends they heard.
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:13 AM
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I didn't read all of those links but it seems like a bunch of kids referencing themselves and some Urban Legends they heard.
They even bring it up on Snopes:

http://msgboard.snopes.com/message/u...01697/p/1.html
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:21 AM
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They mention it as a legend and in reference to LSD, not mushrooms.

Frankly, this is obviously idiotic and precisely the kind of thing I expect to hear from the kinds of people for whom marijuana use is a major cause of hour-long political rants. I hope you don't take it very seriously; if you meet someone who does, ask them to cite specific cases and laws and share with the rest of us. (Or don't; honestly, I wouldn't blame you if you skipped out on the second through tenth parts of their paranoid rantings.)
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:23 AM
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Yes, I was citing what was said about LSD. Like I said above, my co-worker told me about a friend of his who was charged with conspiracy to overthrow the government for possessing (or maybe it was growing) mushrooms.
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Old 06-10-2012, 09:04 AM
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Well I can't cite my co-worker, I just take his word for it.
I think I have found the problem.
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Old 06-10-2012, 10:26 AM
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Can you provide a cite for this? I have never heard of anything like this. IIRC mushrooms and LSD are Class III drugs, possession/use of which is a low grade felony.
Is class different from schedule? I'm not sure what a CLASS III drug is, but for prescribing/DEA purposes, they are SCHEDULE I drugs. That is no legal medical use except research and a high abuse potential.
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Old 06-10-2012, 12:41 PM
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Can you provide a cite for this? I have never heard of anything like this. IIRC mushrooms and LSD are Class III drugs, possession/use of which is a low grade felony.
Wikipedia lists both as Schedule I.
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Old 06-10-2012, 12:49 PM
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Sometimes the only thing exceeding human ignorance is the alacrity with which it is defended.
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Old 06-10-2012, 05:58 PM
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Yes, I was citing what was said about LSD. Like I said above, my co-worker told me about a friend of his who was charged with conspiracy to overthrow the government for possessing (or maybe it was growing) mushrooms.
"I once heard of this guy whose girlfriend's hair dressers's boyfriend's cousin..."

See also: Shit, Full Of

Not you, your co-worker.

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Old 06-10-2012, 06:07 PM
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Can anyone explain the connection between the two? A co-worker of mine told me that a friend of his got busted with psilocybin mushrooms and was charged with conspiracy to overthrow the government. I've also read online that getting caught with LSD will net you the same charge. Why? How does that work?
You are not called cheese donkey for nothing are you mate?
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Old 06-10-2012, 06:48 PM
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They mention it as a legend and in reference to LSD, not mushrooms.

Frankly, this is obviously idiotic and precisely the kind of thing I expect to hear from the kinds of people for whom marijuana use is a major cause of hour-long political rants. I hope you don't take it very seriously; if you meet someone who does, ask them to cite specific cases and laws and share with the rest of us. (Or don't; honestly, I wouldn't blame you if you skipped out on the second through tenth parts of their paranoid rantings.)
I could give an hour long talk about marijauna and politics and not leave the facts. What does that have to do with an urban legend? What's the connection with an hour long political rant about marijuana?
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:42 PM
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I could give an hour long talk about marijauna and politics and not leave the facts. What does that have to do with an urban legend? What's the connection with an hour long political rant about marijuana?
Maybe it's just my experience, but, when I hear an hour-long rant about marijuana and hemp, it's entirely about how hemp is a Magical Miracle Crop and marijuana is a Wonder Drug and everything would be wonderful if it was all legal.
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Old 06-10-2012, 11:21 PM
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Magic mushrooms = conspiracy to overthrow the government

Of course it is--they make you grow bigger and stronger so you can take out the lizard overlords. Haven't you seen this documentary?

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Old 06-10-2012, 11:55 PM
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Wikipedia lists both as Schedule I.
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Is class different from schedule? I'm not sure what a CLASS III drug is, but for prescribing/DEA purposes, they are SCHEDULE I drugs. That is no legal medical use except research and a high abuse potential.
Ooops...yeah.




Double smackdown.
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:10 AM
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Sometimes the only thing exceeding human ignorance is the alacrity with which it is defended.
Good one! E.G. Chesterton?
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:23 AM
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Good one! E.G. Chesterton?
Yours truly. If someone else has said it too, I'm unaware of it.
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Old 06-11-2012, 04:38 AM
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Good one! E.G. Chesterton?
Is that just an example?

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Old 06-11-2012, 08:24 AM
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I keep seeing the reference about LSD and conspiracy to overthrow the government pop up, but it's not being mentioned on any sites that could be considered "reliable"...mostly a bunch of forums. Now I'm trying to figure out where the basis of that claim came from and if there is even a sliver of truth to back it up.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:35 AM
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I keep seeing the reference about LSD and conspiracy to overthrow the government pop up, but it's not being mentioned on any sites that could be considered "reliable"...mostly a bunch of forums. Now I'm trying to figure out where the basis of that claim came from and if there is even a sliver of truth to back it up.
Here's an idea, why don't you start with the assumption that it is bull crap and then ask one of the people that says it is true to provide you with some facts to back it up.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:45 AM
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Here's an idea, why don't you start with the assumption that it is bull crap and then ask one of the people that says it is true to provide you with some facts to back it up.
Because you touch yourself at night
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Old 06-11-2012, 12:20 PM
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Because you touch yourself at night
If all you've got is unsubstantiated claims from a co-worker and something you once saw on the internet but can no longer find, then it's probably safe to dismiss this one.
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Old 06-11-2012, 04:44 PM
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If all you've got is unsubstantiated claims from a co-worker and something you once saw on the internet but can no longer find, then it's probably safe to dismiss this one.
Wonder if these might be vestigial horror-stories of that sort from the 1950's era, when (according to some factions) EVERYTHING that wasn't wholesome all-American was treasonous anti-American atheistic homosexual (except J. Edgar) pure-evil Communist.

Darn near, every petty litterbug and jaywalker could be accused of being a traitor in those days.

Magic Mushrooms: One side makes you smarter, the other side makes you stupider.
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