Magic mushrooms = conspiracy to overthrow the government

[CheeseDonkey]

Can anyone explain the connection between the two? A co-worker of mine told me that a friend of his got busted with psilocybin mushrooms and was charged with conspiracy to overthrow the government. I've also read online that getting caught with LSD will net you the same charge. Why? How does that work?

[FoieGrasIsEvil]

Can you provide a cite for this? I have never heard of anything like this. IIRC mushrooms and LSD are Class III drugs, possession/use of which is a low grade felony.

[Czarcasm]

Originally Posted by CheeseDonkey

Can anyone explain the connection between the two? A co-worker of mine told me that a friend of his got busted with psilocybin mushrooms and was charged with conspiracy to overthrow the government. I've also read online that getting caught with LSD will net you the same charge. Why? How does that work?

Where did you read this online? Cite?

[robert_columbia]

I've never heard of such a thing, at least in the US. I do believe that one of the reasons that Treason was defined in the Constitution was to prevent the perceived misuse of British treason charges for all sorts of general naughty behavior that was only remotely connected with the survival of the government.

[CheeseDonkey]

Well I can't cite my co-worker, I just take his word for it. But for the LSD thing:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/show...umber/12699638
http://summitpreventionalliance.org/...ance-Abuse.pdf
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...ssage22751/pg3
http://dmt.tribe.net/thread/80432b45...c-479b1d75882f

Search for the term "conspiracy" in those links to find what I'm talking about.

[Mr. Miskatonic]

Originally Posted by CheeseDonkey

Well I can't cite my co-worker, I just take his word for it. But for the LSD thing:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/show...umber/12699638
http://summitpreventionalliance.org/...ance-Abuse.pdf
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...ssage22751/pg3
http://dmt.tribe.net/thread/80432b45...c-479b1d75882f

Search for the term "conspiracy" in those links to find what I'm talking about.

I didn't read all of those links but it seems like a bunch of kids referencing themselves and some Urban Legends they heard.

[CheeseDonkey]

Originally Posted by Mr. Miskatonic

I didn't read all of those links but it seems like a bunch of kids referencing themselves and some Urban Legends they heard.

They even bring it up on Snopes:

http://msgboard.snopes.com/message/u...01697/p/1.html

[Derleth]

Originally Posted by CheeseDonkey

They even bring it up on Snopes:

http://msgboard.snopes.com/message/u...01697/p/1.html

They mention it as a legend and in reference to LSD, not mushrooms.

Frankly, this is obviously idiotic and precisely the kind of thing I expect to hear from the kinds of people for whom marijuana use is a major cause of hour-long political rants. I hope you don't take it very seriously; if you meet someone who does, ask them to cite specific cases and laws and share with the rest of us. (Or don't; honestly, I wouldn't blame you if you skipped out on the second through tenth parts of their paranoid rantings.)

[CheeseDonkey]

Yes, I was citing what was said about LSD. Like I said above, my co-worker told me about a friend of his who was charged with conspiracy to overthrow the government for possessing (or maybe it was growing) mushrooms.

[Fear Itself]

Originally Posted by CheeseDonkey

Well I can't cite my co-worker, I just take his word for it.

I think I have found the problem.

[rsat3acr]

Originally Posted by FoieGrasIsEvil

Can you provide a cite for this? I have never heard of anything like this. IIRC mushrooms and LSD are Class III drugs, possession/use of which is a low grade felony.

Is class different from schedule? I'm not sure what a CLASS III drug is, but for prescribing/DEA purposes, they are SCHEDULE I drugs. That is no legal medical use except research and a high abuse potential.

[11811]

Originally Posted by FoieGrasIsEvil

Can you provide a cite for this? I have never heard of anything like this. IIRC mushrooms and LSD are Class III drugs, possession/use of which is a low grade felony.

Wikipedia lists both as Schedule I.

[gunnergoz]

Sometimes the only thing exceeding human ignorance is the alacrity with which it is defended.

[Chimera]

Originally Posted by CheeseDonkey

Yes, I was citing what was said about LSD. Like I said above, my co-worker told me about a friend of his who was charged with conspiracy to overthrow the government for possessing (or maybe it was growing) mushrooms.

"I once heard of this guy whose girlfriend's hair dressers's boyfriend's cousin..."

See also: Shit, Full Of

Not you, your co-worker.

[seaturtle99]

Originally Posted by CheeseDonkey

Can anyone explain the connection between the two? A co-worker of mine told me that a friend of his got busted with psilocybin mushrooms and was charged with conspiracy to overthrow the government. I've also read online that getting caught with LSD will net you the same charge. Why? How does that work?

You are not called cheese donkey for nothing are you mate?

[David42]

Originally Posted by Derleth

They mention it as a legend and in reference to LSD, not mushrooms.

Frankly, this is obviously idiotic and precisely the kind of thing I expect to hear from the kinds of people for whom marijuana use is a major cause of hour-long political rants. I hope you don't take it very seriously; if you meet someone who does, ask them to cite specific cases and laws and share with the rest of us. (Or don't; honestly, I wouldn't blame you if you skipped out on the second through tenth parts of their paranoid rantings.)

I could give an hour long talk about marijauna and politics and not leave the facts. What does that have to do with an urban legend? What's the connection with an hour long political rant about marijuana?

[Derleth]

Originally Posted by David42

I could give an hour long talk about marijauna and politics and not leave the facts. What does that have to do with an urban legend? What's the connection with an hour long political rant about marijuana?

Maybe it's just my experience, but, when I hear an hour-long rant about marijuana and hemp, it's entirely about how hemp is a Magical Miracle Crop and marijuana is a Wonder Drug and everything would be wonderful if it was all legal.

[BigT]

Of course it is--they make you grow bigger and stronger so you can take out the lizard overlords. Haven't you seen this documentary?

[FoieGrasIsEvil]

Originally Posted by 11811

Wikipedia lists both as Schedule I.

Originally Posted by rsat3acr

Is class different from schedule? I'm not sure what a CLASS III drug is, but for prescribing/DEA purposes, they are SCHEDULE I drugs. That is no legal medical use except research and a high abuse potential.

Ooops...yeah.




Double smackdown.

[terentii]

Originally Posted by gunnergoz

Sometimes the only thing exceeding human ignorance is the alacrity with which it is defended.

Good one! E.G. Chesterton?

[gunnergoz]

Originally Posted by terentii

Good one! E.G. Chesterton?

Yours truly. If someone else has said it too, I'm unaware of it.

[njtt]

Originally Posted by terentii

Good one! E.G. Chesterton?

Is that just an example?

GK

[CheeseDonkey]

I keep seeing the reference about LSD and conspiracy to overthrow the government pop up, but it's not being mentioned on any sites that could be considered "reliable"...mostly a bunch of forums. Now I'm trying to figure out where the basis of that claim came from and if there is even a sliver of truth to back it up.

[fumster]

Originally Posted by CheeseDonkey

I keep seeing the reference about LSD and conspiracy to overthrow the government pop up, but it's not being mentioned on any sites that could be considered "reliable"...mostly a bunch of forums. Now I'm trying to figure out where the basis of that claim came from and if there is even a sliver of truth to back it up.

Here's an idea, why don't you start with the assumption that it is bull crap and then ask one of the people that says it is true to provide you with some facts to back it up.

[CheeseDonkey]

Originally Posted by fumster

Here's an idea, why don't you start with the assumption that it is bull crap and then ask one of the people that says it is true to provide you with some facts to back it up.

Because you touch yourself at night

[Czarcasm]

Originally Posted by CheeseDonkey

Because you touch yourself at night

If all you've got is unsubstantiated claims from a co-worker and something you once saw on the internet but can no longer find, then it's probably safe to dismiss this one.

[Senegoid]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm

If all you've got is unsubstantiated claims from a co-worker and something you once saw on the internet but can no longer find, then it's probably safe to dismiss this one.

Wonder if these might be vestigial horror-stories of that sort from the 1950's era, when (according to some factions) EVERYTHING that wasn't wholesome all-American was treasonous anti-American atheistic homosexual (except J. Edgar) pure-evil Communist.

Darn near, every petty litterbug and jaywalker could be accused of being a traitor in those days.

Magic Mushrooms: One side makes you smarter, the other side makes you stupider.