Conservatives Heckling Obama

[BrainGlutton]

Originally Posted by Little Nemo

But what about the people I mentioned? Mitt Romney, John Boehner, and Paul Ryan. Do you classify them as well-intentioned people who hold mistaken beliefs or as rotten souls who are knowingly doing wrong?

Boehner and Romney are rotten souls, to be sure; don't know much about Ryan.

[John Mace]

Originally Posted by DSeid

Yes.

One can believe that such a process weeds out inefficient or noncompetitive companies and efficiently redirects it resources into more competitive operations within or without the same industry. That's the free market model.

What one cannot honestly believe is that such is "job creation."

Depends. Were there net jobs created by the process? And that would be as compared to what would be expected to happen without the intervention. Not an easy thing to determine, but hardly something one could question someone's honesty over.

[Euphonious Polemic]

Originally Posted by John Mace

Depends. Were there net jobs created by the process? And that would be as compared to what would be expected to happen without the intervention. Not an easy thing to determine, but hardly something one could question someone's honesty over.

I don't think Bain Capital gave two shits if any net jobs were created. That was not what they were paid to do. They were paid to make as large a profit as possible and return value to the shareholders. Nothing more, nothing less.

In hindsight, Romney and his mates may try to spin it as "net" job creation, but at the time, that was not a metric they were judged by, so I believe that it held no meaning whatsoever for them.

On the whole people do not think of themselves as bad people, doing bad things (excluding sociopaths, who do not care one way or the other). Folks will create justifications for what they do, in order to live with themselves. They'll tell themselves that they are doing things for the greater good. Of course, this does not make it true; it just makes them feel better about the bad things that they are doing.

[carnivorousplant]

Originally Posted by Euphonious Polemic

Folks will create justifications for what they do, in order to live with themselves.

I think they were just making money, and screw the little guys.
Lie to the little guys and they will vote for you, too.

[New Deal Democrat]

Originally Posted by Richard Parker

Yesterday, the Romney Campaign Bus circled outside Obama's Ohio economic speech harassing attendees -- with reporters on board. Today, a reporter from the GOP-mouthpiece The Daily Caller loudly heckled Obama in the middle of a speech on the White House lawn.

I'm sensing something more than random incidents. I predict that we'll continue to see second-grade bullshit like this through November. It's a reflection of the unhinged Obama-hate coursing through Fox News America right now, as well as the Romney campaign's effort to harness it.

For debate: Do you share my prediction? Assuming these incidents continue, will the tactic have the desired effect? Is there anything effective Obama can do about it?

If Obama was as unpopular as Herbert Hoover was in 1932 I think heckling him would reinforce the perception that he was unpopular. Because he is slightly ahead in the polls, and because many voters have still not made up their minds I think heckling will engender sympathy for him if he handles it well.

The heckling could easily get nasty with people yelling "Kill him!" and "Traitor!" That will hurt Romney.