9/11 was an inside job

[DrFidelius]

Originally Posted by tomndebb

Give my regards to Howard.

He's fulfilling the Jeremy Bentham Professorship position for us. I'll say "Hi" for you next time I'm going past his cubby hole.

[Wheelz]

Originally Posted by Veneriable Slacks

William C. Nixon
B.S.

Indeed.

[Skammer]

I have a BS but it's only in Communications. Can I still be pompous?

[Czarcasm]

Originally Posted by Skammer

I have a BS but it's only in Communications. Can I still be pompous?

Not if you have to ask.

[Gedd]

I love the educating power of internet. Watch this:

“9/11 wasn’t an inside job, the OP and his buddies are fools.

Dr Gerald Edmund E. Davis
Ph.D. Metallurgical Engineering, MIT, 1985
Ph.D. Aerodynamics, OSU, 1988
M.S. Structural Demolition, ASU, 1991
B.A. Underwater Container Construction, ASU, 2012"



Obviously I know what I’m talking about and you should take my word over everyone else who hasn't put a list of credentials after what they said.

[Nars Glinley]

Originally Posted by Gedd

I love the educating power of internet. Watch this:

“9/11 wasn’t an inside job, the OP and his buddies are fools.

Dr Gerald Edmund E. Davis
Ph.D. Metallurgical Engineering, MIT, 1985
Ph.D. Aerodynamics, OSU, 1988
M.S. Structural Demolition, ASU, 1991
B.A. Underwater Container Construction, ASU, 2012"



Obviously I know what I’m talking about and you should take my word over everyone else who hasn't put a list of credentials after what they said.

But you're clearly a fraud. Your initials don't even match your username.

[Zeriel]

Originally Posted by Einsatzgroping

So, who is the real idiot: the theorist who possits plausible possibilities based on the available evidence

I dunno, I haven't seen any of these yet. You're welcome to show me one.

[Bamboo Boy]

Originally Posted by Euphonious Polemic

She blinded me with SCIENCE!

5 points to the first old fogey that gets this without googling

...and failed me in Biology!


Yeah, I'm an old fogey...GOML.

-BB

[Gedd]

Originally Posted by Nars Glinley

But you're clearly a fraud. Your initials don't even match your username.

Which is exactly how I knew Veneriable Slacks wasn't the real Dr Nixon, but rather . . . old man Grinchly the carnival owner!

Grinchly: "And I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling dopers!"

[DWMarch]

Originally Posted by Einsatzgroping

Yet, despite all the evidence buttressing it, we off-the-cuff reject anything that does not fall into line with, what we now know was, a corrupt, incompetent, war mongering US administration's spin on the incident in question.

It has always been very public knowledge that the Bush administration had their thumbs firmly in their asses in regards to counter terrorism before 9/11. It is well known that they were getting warnings on a weekly basis up to and including in the Presidential Daily Brief that said "HEY GUYS TERRORIST ATTACK COMING SOON! PLANES AND SHIT!" It is established fact that if the alphabet soup agencies had been willing to talk to one another there would probably be nineteen wannabe hijackers in jail right now.

But the Bush administration letting it happen does not equal the Bush administration making it happen. I wish people knew the difference.

Originally Posted by Veneriable Slacks

The evidence of WTC 7 being a controlled demolition is so obvious.

The evidence as to WHY WTC 7 would be demolished has never been shown to make any sense.

And since I imagine this hit and run poster will actually at least be skimming the thread I offer him this advice:

We have seen 9/11 conspiracy threads before. Every angle of the attack has been discussed ad nauseum over and over again. One thing is always missing from the conspiracy theory side and that is logic and reason. CTers come in, make a statement that they don't even try to defend, hurl insults about how dumb we all are for believe the government's obvious lies and then leave. How is that supposed to convince anyone? Has anyone ever convinced you of anything by treating you that way?

If it's so obvious it should be easy to explain. So if you can bring in a fresh angle on how and why WTC 7 was demolished on purpose by Larry Silverstein (rather than by being hit by flaming chunks of the 110 story building next to it that just fell down) that doesn't involve UFOs, the Illuminati, fictional pipelines in Afghanistan or cabals of evil Jews... let's see that evidence.

[Deeg]

Did the Straight Dope put out an add for CT loonies this month? Three signed up within (roughly) a week of each other.

[Musicat]

Originally Posted by Deeg

Did the Straight Dope put out an add for CT loonies this month? Three signed up within (roughly) a week of each other.

Birds of a feather...

[XT]

Well, when you put an add on CT loonies of course you get more...

-XT

[Kolga]

Originally Posted by Deeg

Did the Straight Dope put out an add for CT loonies this month? Three signed up within (roughly) a week of each other.

It's summer break. The kiddies are bored.

[Siam Sam]

Originally Posted by Veneriable Slacks

Bye bye, pompous morons.

Bye bye. Please forget to write.

[Bryan Ekers]

If WTC7 was a controlled demolition, it was a pretty uncontrolled controlled demolition, in light of the collateral and significant damage to Fiterman Hall, across Barclay street to the north. Fiterman Hall had to be torn down, is being replaced by a new building.

[Princhester]

Originally Posted by Bryan Ekers

If WTC7 was a controlled demolition, it was a pretty uncontrolled controlled demolition, in light of the collateral and significant damage to Fiterman Hall, across Barclay street to the north. Fiterman Hall had to be torn down, is being replaced by a new building.

Well they weren't so silly as to make it appear too controlled. They carefully ensured that it was just sufficiently untidy as to make it indistinguishable from an uncontrolled demolition. Actually, the clearly uncontrolled-seeming nature of the demolition, precisely calibrated to fool any expert into thinking it was uncontrolled, is far too "convenient" to be credible. It is the very fact that the demolition shows so clearly that it was uncontrolled that shows that it was, actually, controlled.

See?

[Bryan Ekers]

Wow. Meta.

[Boyo Jim]

Everybody knows that the 9/11 demolition was the last step in the coverup of the Kennedy assassination. All the Kennedys, going back to Joe Jr. in WWII. That's why they used exploding planes -- kind of a retro tribute to the original assassins.

[dropzone]

Originally Posted by Gedd

Which is exactly how I knew Veneriable Slacks wasn't the real Dr Nixon, but rather . . . old man Grinchly the carnival owner!

Not a doctor. Got a bachelor's. Most of the William C. Nixons I find online are long dead or the wrong age. Might be the one who is a big fan of the Justice League on Amazon, which would mean we aren't shut of him yet.

Anecdote that should not be an accurate assessment of the engineering program at the Illinois Institute of Technology: A co-worker who had received his engineering degree from IIT was incensed that another engineer had used the blackboard to lay out an elaborate proof which concluded that an engineering degree from IIT = 0. That, of course, is not my opinion, though there are some clunkers with 2.0 GPAs who would still be degreed engineers. Just sayin', is all.

[billfish678]

lame joke previously taken durnit.

nevermind

[I_Know_Nothing]

Originally Posted by Veneriable Slacks

Straight dopers are in obvious denial, as a whole. As a group, in general, you are in denial of the obvious. The evidence of WTC 7 being a controlled demolition is so obvious.

The truth will set you free, unless you bury your head in the sand.

This is my last post. I will not visit this site again.

Bye bye, pompous morons,

William C. Nixon
B.S., Metallurgical Engineering, Illinios Institute of Technology, 1987

It was not a controlled demolition.

I_Know_Nothing Johnson
B.S., Nutrition, University of Texas, 2000

[Toucanna]

Originally Posted by Einsatzgroping

{snip} The theory that 19, ragtag, fundamentalist, Arabic loons...

Whom are you calling "ragtag"? Don't you know that's a racist stereotype and

Oh, excuse me a second, gotta read this PM.

[Emily Litella]"RagTAG", not "head"? Ooh! Never mind![/Emily Litella]

Originally Posted by Einsatzgroping

So, who is the real idiot...?

Just a WAG on my part but, how about the one who doesn't know the difference between "Arabic" and "Saudi"?

[Toucanna]

Originally Posted by Musicat

Birds of a feather...

Loons flock, don't they? And most parrots. Did dodo birds? In seabirds, it's called gull-ability. It's true! I have a bunch of scientific initials associated with my name*, so that qualifies me to speak on the matter.

[Musicat]

Originally Posted by Toucanna

I have a bunch of scientific initials associated with my name...

Me, too. RTFM, SNAFU and FUBAR.

I'm qualified to speak on anything.

[Gedd]

Originally Posted by dropzone

Not a doctor. Got a bachelor's.

Dang, I'm not doing so well in this thread. Think I'll back off the allergy medication and check my hat for tears in the tin foil.

[Try2B Comprehensive]

When I took a close look at this issue, I concluded that there was no reason to suspect a conspiracy beyond the official story, regardless of that fishy smell surrounding the Bush Administration and its wars in the ME. I haven't seen anything since to change my mind.

Try2B Comprehensive
Genius

[Anaamika]

Not to totally hijack (ha!) an admittedly hilarious thread, but....

Originally Posted by Gedd

B.A. Underwater Container Construction, ASU, 2012"

If this is real, you should start an Ask Me thread. If not, and you were just making it up... :slinks away:

[Bryan Ekers]

Originally Posted by Anaamika

If this is real, you should start an Ask Me thread. If not, and you were just making it up... :slinks away:

Well, I venture a guess that "underwater container construction" is related to the venerable academic field of underwater basket weaving.

[Euphonious Polemic]

Originally Posted by Boyo Jim

Everybody knows that the 9/11 demolition was the last step in the coverup of the Kennedy assassination. All the Kennedys, going back to Joe Jr. in WWII. That's why they used exploding planes -- kind of a retro tribute to the original assassins.

No, no no.

WTC7 was being used to temporarily house the alien bodies from Area 51. Unfortunately, there was a breech in the containment facilities, and alien viruses began to infect the staff. One brave soul was able to hit the "red" button, and an orbiting defense satellite was able to unleash a top-secret kenetic kill weapon, which slammed into the WTC7 at 57,000 miles per hour, which destroyed the alien virus and saved humanity.

You can't prove that I'm not right!

[Anaamika]

Originally Posted by Bryan Ekers

Well, I venture a guess that "underwater container construction" is related to the venerable academic field of underwater basket weaving.

I figured....BUT they do build things underwater, and so I figured someone had to know what was going on. And here I was so hoping! Oh well.

[Bryan Ekers]

Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if there were whole academic fields of engineering that concentrate on structures that are built under water or (perhaps less exotically) built on land and designed to be submerged.

Caissons alone are pretty fascinating.

[dropzone]

Originally Posted by Toucanna

I have a bunch of scientific initials associated with my name*, so that qualifies me to speak on the matter.

*IUD, OCD, IBS, BPD, ASBO

While most of those initials sound cute (I can never remember what I'm not supposed to do with The Crazy), wouldn't the IBS negate the need for the IUD?


d&r

[outlierrn]

Did you hear about the dyslexic highway patrol man? He pulled some drunk over and tried to give him an IUD.


Outlierrn
D&R

[Toucanna]

Originally Posted by dropzone

...wouldn't the IBS negate the need for the IUD?...

Initials were listed in the order in which they were "earned".

[Fool in the Rain]

Originally Posted by Repent

Here is a link to 2 1/2 hours of expert testimony from Architechs and engineers for 9/11 truth, demanding a second independant investigation into 9/11:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw-jzCfa4eQ

Crime of the century, and they got away with it. Now two pointless wars and the patriot act later, they are still at large and no one is looking for them.

Ok Ok Ok...I repent I repent.

I did it. I convinced Jeremy to turn his mysterious purple and green object into a brainwash machine and make one billion people fulfill my plans, and never speak of it. Jeremy then smuggled all the people from the planes to the Sea of Nothing, where they sing songs and write limericks.

I feel better now. Thanks.

[CoolHandCox]

I NEVER post in these NUMEROUS threads. EVER. (But you can tell I read them by the CAPS).

Until now.

So, I read these threads, used to be to actually learn, then for fun, then for boredom, now not sure.

One simple question, for the OP'er, or anyone who's read a lot of these threads. The phrase "inside job." I"m just curious what "inside" means? I've never followed all the threads, but is it ever clear how deep "inside" means? i.e. President, Vice President, The Entire Republican Party is involved? Does "inside" mean some people I'm not aware of?

I dunno, what does inside job mean. Inside what circle I guess, is ever established?

[sevenwood]

Originally Posted by CoolHandCox

I dunno, what does inside job mean. Inside what circle I guess, is ever established?

Have you ever seen the movie "Alien"?

[Jackmannii]

I have a Masters degree in Science and can assure the Teeming Millions that 9/11 was not an inside job. The perpetrators were not who the government blames, however.

You'll never get to first base unless you take a hard look at these people.

[DWMarch]

Originally Posted by CoolHandCox

I NEVER post in these NUMEROUS threads. EVER. (But you can tell I read them by the CAPS).

Until now.

So, I read these threads, used to be to actually learn, then for fun, then for boredom, now not sure.

One simple question, for the OP'er, or anyone who's read a lot of these threads. The phrase "inside job." I"m just curious what "inside" means? I've never followed all the threads, but is it ever clear how deep "inside" means? i.e. President, Vice President, The Entire Republican Party is involved? Does "inside" mean some people I'm not aware of?

I dunno, what does inside job mean. Inside what circle I guess, is ever established?

Inside as in the US government actively creating and participating in the plot. So for example the Pentagon being hit by a missile (because there's no plane-shaped hole in the building like we know from Road Runner cartoons there should be) or Flight 93 being shot down by a secret government spy jet. The WTC itself was brought down by experimental orbs and/or a combination of magical thermite that leaves no trace of itself except the kind keyboard commandos can detect. And Larry Silverstein's comment that the firefighters should "pull it" regarding WTC7 was some barely disguised code for "it's your turn to take part in this conspiracy". The hijackers themselves were either patsies or didn't exist at all. Same for the passengers.

The Bush administration was in on it but the Obama administration must be as well - the current administration is in a perfect position to know exactly what really happened and since they're not using that knowledge to destroy the Republican party for a generation they must be in on it too. So basically the whole government is in on it, usually due to puppet masters in the corporate world and in conspiracy-central, Israel.

And of course all of these insiders have a perfect understanding of secrecy and none of them ever wish to talk to the media or demand more hush money or better hookers and blow or whatnot.

That's the world a CTer lives in. An infinitely powerful government which exists at the mercy of another infinitely powerful group (usually Jewish in nature) setting up an innocent bunch of patsies (because nobody on the other side of the world ever has any reason to hate America!) so they can build pipelines in Afghanistan or set up the invasion of Iran or etc etc etc.