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Old 07-02-2012, 02:30 PM
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What is your favorite pizza style?

How do you like your pizza when it comes to their ingredients and their ratios?


Is there such a thing as a good homemade pizza? If so, how do you make it?

Has anyone ever tried to replace the bread with something low in carbs?
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:47 PM
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My dad makes pizzas on tortilla shells. I love them.

I like pepperoni pizza.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:57 PM
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There is a place down the street from me that makes the best pizza I have ever had. The perfect combo of great crust, the right amount of cheese, and a tasty sauce (and not too much of it). I tend to prefer thin crust, but not cracker crisp Neapolitan style thin crust. Neapolitan is nice, but it's not my top choice. What I like best is NYC style pizza, but as I don't actually live in NYC I won't call it that.

You can make good pizza at home, and it's not that hard if you are willing to invest in something that will hold heat well enough that you can get your oven hot enough. A largish cast iron skillet will do the trick, or unglazed quarry tile, or, you know, a pizza stone. But high heat is key. You can probably buy some dough from your favorite pizza joint. Just go in and ask them, you would be surprised. Then you can experiment at home.

Making your own pizza dough is surprisingly easy too. I like this recipe (I know it's called Neo-Neapolitan, it ends up being like the place I go to down the street). Flour is key to any bread making. Again, it's surprisingly easy to ask the guys at your favorite pizza place what flour they use, and possibly even buy some off them. Also, try to make the dough a couple of days before you need it. I found that the dough to the linked recipe tastes best at about day 3 of sitting in the fridge before turning it into a pizza.

When I make it at home I like to top with a mix of black and green olives, or some good sausage and thin sliced onions. When I go out I like pepperoni or meatballs (depending on where I am going) or just plain cheese, maybe add olives or mushrooms too if I am feeling fancy.

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Old 07-02-2012, 03:03 PM
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I like a thinner crust, spicy sauce, pepperoni, onion and green olives.

Green, not black. Obviously I am often frustrated.
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:05 PM
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Is there such a thing as a good homemade pizza? If so, how do you make it?
Appian Way pizza kit, add mozzarella and unseasoned ground beef on top, yum yum yum. Sometimes also add pepperoni.
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:12 PM
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Thin crust, good cheese and pepperoni, with a bit of black olives and onion if I'm feeling it. I don't like it overdone with cheese, but I do like some extra sauce on the side for dipping if I feel so inclined.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:13 PM
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We have a Mellow Mushroom Pizza Bakers down the street, and they make some of the best pizza. Something about their crust is just magical to me. It's like a wheat crust - lots of texture, kind of "chewy." And their pizzas have great names like "Magical Mystery Tour" and "Holy Shiitake." My favorite is the Kosmic Karma.

As far as how I like my pizza in general, I used to like THICK crust, and very few toppings, usually meat-based. These days I definitely prefer thinner crusts and a moderate amount of toppings, usually just pepperoni with a couple of other things like onions and mushrooms. Simple is better *unless it's a Kosmic Karma!*

I make English Muffin pizzas sometimes, and they're super easy and tasty. English muffin + pizza sauce + pepperoni, etc + mozzarella = Mmmm.

I think I'm having pizza tonight.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:15 PM
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I find myself really loving thin, ultra thin crust pizzas.

With lots of sauce.

Pretty much any and all toppings are welcome.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:25 PM
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I make my own dough in a bread maker and make home made pizza with that. I do not equate it with my favorite type of restaurant pizza. My dough tends to be much thicker and puffier than real pizza. I like it both ways but put mine in a different category than New York style pizza.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:56 PM
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French bread pizza. Since I can't have sauce the bread is a good medium for being liberally coated in butter before being smothered in cheese. Back before sauce was a horrible idea for me, I used to like deep dish, though.
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:47 AM
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Speaking of French bread pizza, you can lose the carbs by making them on slabs of baked squash or zucchini.

My pizza sauce is too easy to be real but it's good. A can of tomato sauce (size depending on how many.) A dollop of olive oil and a liberal sprinkling of oregano. Cook on medium low till reduced.
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:18 AM
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Has anyone ever tried to replace the bread with something low in carbs?
Cosa???????
If you want pizza, you want pizza. If not, have a salad.

I prefer thin crust and no stinting on the tomatoes sauce, the quality of which to me is almost as important as the base. No, exaggerated amount of toppings, probably aubergines (that's eggplant for the Americans) or just plain margherita.

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I tend to prefer thin crust, but not cracker crisp Neapolitan style thin crust.
Is that American terminology? Because where I am Neapolitan is the slightly thicker one. Then there's "normal" pizza, which is the thinnest one and finally there's a really fluffy "deep pan" style which is and usually sold by the slice to eat on the go. I don't like it, but it's seems to be "trendy".
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:51 AM
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How do you like your pizza when it comes to their ingredients and their ratios?
I like all sorts of styles, but my preferred one is Neapolitan or Neapolitan-NY, cooked in a wood-fired (or coal-fired) oven. Ingredients should not be overdone, as in most American-style pizzas. Just a simple tomato sauce (usually, just crushed tomatoes), fresh mozzarella, and basil (for the classic Marghareta pizza.)

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Of course there is. Just go to pizzamaking.com and look through the techniques and recipes for pretty much any style of pizza you want. I don't like any of the pizza kits I've tried: way too doughy, and the crust tastes of nothing. If I really want a quick pizza and have no time to make the dough, if you can get your hands on Lebanese flatbread, that works great. Otherwise, you can also use any kind of Middle Eastern or Indian flatbread, and I find those taste a heck of a lot better than the crust in pizza kits. I prefer the thinner kinds of flatbread, myself.
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:52 AM
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Anyone else making pizza on the grill? I just tried it and was pleasantly surprised at the results.

Current favorite home-made is Arugula/smoked mozzarella pesto with thick slices of Roma tomatoes.
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:59 AM
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Is that American terminology? Because where I am Neapolitan is the slightly thicker one.
Neapolitan pizza is usually fairly thin, and puffy around the edges. I've never had one that I would describe as "cracker crisp," though. The edges tend to be charred and have some crispness to them, but the middles of the pie tend to be a bit soggy and soupy. This would be a typical picture. It's usually best eaten with a knife and fork because of this.

The intrepid Jeff Varsano (ever on the search for replicating his favorite NY high-temp pizzas at home), describes it very well: " In Naples, the dough is very soft and hard to hold and often eaten with a knife and fork. NY street pizza is easily folded and held. They typically use a strong Hi Gluten Flour. My pies are closer to the Neapolitan, but not quite. You can still hold it, but sometimes it flops a bit at the tip."

Neapolitan pies are generally pretty floppy, not cracker crisp.
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:18 AM
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Favorite pizza style? The one that's within arm's reach!

There's a regional chain of convenience store/pizza/doughnut shop called Casey's that has just about the best crust I've ever paid someone else to make. They stretch a nicely chewy crust out so it's thin and floppy and build up a thick edge crust. Their toppings are kind of nasty, overloaded with cheap cheese and cheaper meats, but their crust is fantastic.
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Old 07-03-2012, 10:44 AM
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Neapolitan pies are generally pretty floppy, not cracker crisp.
In my experience, and I grew up in Los Angeles which is more or less a pizza wasteland so take this with a grain mound of salt, when pizza is advertized as Neapolitan you a small 8 inch personal pie with a paper thin crust that has been baked at extreme heats so that the edge of the crust crumbles like a cracker and the bottom is slightly blackened. The ability of the center to hold up generally depends on how wet the toppings are and will vary from place to place. But you don't get a chewy crust, rather you get a crispy one (and I am talking the crust edge) and the whole pie is very very thin.

If this isn't what is typically thought of as Neapolitan then blame LA. If you see Neapolitan advertized in LA that's what you get. If it is then blame my poor powers of description for not properly letting you know what I meant. Out here in Jersey I see NYC and Sicilian style advertized primarily. I haven't tried Sicilian, but from the looks of it it's a puffy almost but not quite deep dish style pie usually served square which might be what PookahMacPhellimey was thinking of as Neapolitan.

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Old 07-03-2012, 11:22 AM
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I haven't tried Sicilian, but from the looks of it it's a puffy almost but not quite deep dish style pie usually served square which might be what PookahMacPhellimey was thinking of as Neapolitan.
Hmmm, no, I think pulykamell's picture is more or less what I see as Neapolitan. Here* your normal work-a-day unspecific pizza is probably a bit flatter, using less yeast, I suppose. Neapolitan pizzerias specify that's what they are offering or they offer both kinds.

Is what you think of as "Sicilian" like in the changing pictures at the top of this website? That's what I meant by "trendy" pizza. I don't think this style has any Sicilian connotations in Italy, though.

It's all so confusing. Hungry now...


Here is the north of Italy. Which is not actually originally a pizza-region, even though it's very common here now.
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:59 AM
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Hmmm, no, I think pulykamell's picture is more or less what I see as Neapolitan. Here* your normal work-a-day unspecific pizza is probably a bit flatter, using less yeast, I suppose. Neapolitan pizzerias specify that's what they are offering or they offer both kinds.

Is what you think of as "Sicilian" like in the changing pictures at the top of this website? That's what I meant by "trendy" pizza. I don't think this style has any Sicilian connotations in Italy, though.

It's all so confusing. Hungry now...


Here is the north of Italy. Which is not actually originally a pizza-region, even though it's very common here now.
Yeah that looks similar to what I am seeing sold as Sicilian pizza. Maybe not quite that thick. Looking it up on Wikipedia it seems to be connected to the pizza style found in Polermo. It looks kinda like this in the neighborhood shops.
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:08 PM
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In my experience, and I grew up in Los Angeles which is more or less a pizza wasteland so take this with a grain mound of salt, when pizza is advertized as Neapolitan you a small 8 inch personal pie with a paper thin crust that has been baked at extreme heats so that the edge of the crust crumbles like a cracker and the bottom is slightly blackened. The ability of the center to hold up generally depends on how wet the toppings are and will vary from place to place. But you don't get a chewy crust, rather you get a crispy one (and I am talking the crust edge) and the whole pie is very very thin.

If this isn't what is typically thought of as Neapolitan then blame LA.
Yeah, that's not really standard Neapolitan. We have a few places here in Chicago that do traditional Neapolitan (like Spacca Napoli or Nella's), then there's a few that do a more Americanized version that is a bit crisper (like Coalfire, or Stop 50 in Michiana Shores), but still not anything that I would compare to a cracker. The crunch on the crust edge is akin to that you get on a freshly baked baguette, but slightly lighter. The 00 type flour type (which is a very finely milled flour with a protein content similar to AP flour in the US) used in a Neapolitan pizza makes for a very tender, fine crust. Also, Neapolitan pizza is almost never cut into slices, but comes out as a single pie.

Now, there are variants of this, of course. There's Neapolitan-American hybrids which may feature high-gluten flours and crisper crusts than a standard Neapolitan pizza, since most Americans are put off by the limp and often soupy center of a regular Neapolitan pizza. A lot of the better NY pizza places (like Grimaldi's or Totonno's) are more of this type. That's what I mean when I refer to "Neapolitan-NY" upthread.

Forgive the geeky pizza taxonomy. I just find the myriad of pizza styles and their differences fascinating.
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:09 PM
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Forgive the geeky pizza taxonomy. I just find the myriad of pizza styles and their differences fascinating.
Me too. Just back from a drink with a friend from Salerno (about 50km from Naples) and he confirmed that Neapolitan pizza being slightly thicker than "standard" is correct at least for terminology in Italy. And of course that pizza from home it is the best thing ever, and people in other places don't know how to do it properly etc etc.
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:25 PM
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I love a good neapolitan pizza. Never a huge fan of pizza, my first ever job was at a PIzza Hut. But after Hubby and I spent 3+ years in Naples, american pizza majorly sucks.

There is a local chain called Elizabeth's here in Greensboro, NC. The Lawndale location makes the best Margherita. The Battleground Ave location heading out of town comes in second.

If I have to eat American pizza it's light sauce, thin crust, cheese, italian sausage, onion and mushroom. Sometimes switching out the onion for black olives.

Burned out on pepperoni aeons ago, and ads for 'mega meat' pizzas make ill.

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Old 07-03-2012, 09:01 PM
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I seem to recall years ago when we were on the South Beach diet, we made a kind of low carb pizza with the crust made from shredded zucchini, squeezed of excess liquid, mixed with ....gosh, I can't remember, flour, baking powder? topped with tomato sauce and cheese, and it was very tasty indeed! Wish I still had the recipe because the zucchinis are going to come flooding in pretty soon.
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Old 07-03-2012, 09:41 PM
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What is your favorite pizza style?

It really depends on how hungry I am; if I'm not particularly hungry then I can go for months without eating pizza, but if I'm really hungry then the more pepperoni, bacon, chilli and red onion the better.
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Old 07-04-2012, 01:42 AM
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I appreciate any and all styles of pizza. As John Lennon said, we all shine on. My NYC-bred GF and I just got back from a long weekend in NYC; I put my Chicago-centric palate on hold and reveled in the joys of Famous Original Ray's foldable pizza slices.

Homemade pizza can be fabulous. I use my old Italian mother's homemade bread recipe to make the crust, roll it out to the thickness I'm craving at the moment, and top it as the moment moves me.

As for low carb pizzas, when I'm deep into the Atkins thing, I've been known to use slices of eggplant as a pizza crust. Just toast it first (like in a toaster oven) before putting it on a cookie sheet, topping it with sauce and cheese and "toppings" and then baking it as usual.

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Old 07-04-2012, 02:44 PM
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thin crust, ham & pineapple. lottsa cheese.

some people call the ham "Canadian bacon" but it tastes like ham to me.
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Old 07-04-2012, 03:18 PM
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Let's just say I was exceedingly disappointed to go back to a place I used to love when I was married and find they no longer made the deep dish, sauce on top, cheese underneath, spicy sausage in huge chunks pizza they used to make. I have no idea where I can even find such a thing in the twin cities anymore.
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Old 07-04-2012, 03:45 PM
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Is there such a thing as a good homemade pizza? If so, how do you make it?
The first time I tried making pizza at home, it compared favorably to anything you got in a pizzeria.

I have a book of pizza recipes, which include making your own dough (it's not that hard), but to save time, you can get pizza dough at the supermarket. Cover the dough with good tomato sauce, mozzarella, and whatever ingredients you want (tip: put the cheese on top of the other ingredients; they won't burn as much that way).

I tend to prefer thin crusts instead of Neopolitan or Chicago style, but have no objection to the others in a pinch.
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Old 07-05-2012, 06:12 AM
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Thin crust, both crispy and foldy. Pepperoni, tomato chunks and bacon. Sausage is not unforgivable. Recent discoveries indicate that gluten-free will be the order of the day going forward, as apparently it wasn't the tomato giving me problems. Dunno how I'm gonna work that. Time, and Google, will tell, I suppose, if it's even possible.

I used to make a deep dish that was a little bit of heaven on Earth (for me and mine, anyway). All of the above, plus a little ground meat, with the top and bottom crust pre-cooked and joined last. Makes me want to cook one now. I still fondly recall Pizza Hut's double-crust pizzas from the eighties, which inspired my Frankenstein creation above.
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Old 07-05-2012, 07:36 AM
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Thin crust. Cut in squares.

Triple anchovies.
Onions.
Banana peppers.
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Old 07-05-2012, 01:34 PM
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School Pizza

I love all kinds of Pizza. It is the perfect food. At the risk of being off topic I'll tell you about the worst pizza i ever had. It was at my high school back in the late 60's. Their pizza consisted of a tosted half of a regular hamburger bun with a drop of tomato paste and a slice of american cheese. Believe it or not most of the kids loved it. Criminal isn't it?
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Old 07-06-2012, 05:45 PM
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Greek pizza is my favorite. Probably due to my love of feta cheese.
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Old 07-06-2012, 06:56 PM
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Thin NYC style crust, spicy tomato sauce, mozzarella bubbly and browned. Toppings I like include mushrooms, peppers, onions.

As far a low-carb crust goes, I put sauce and cheese on a crust I made from the almond-flour cracker recipe. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't really pizza, either.
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Old 07-06-2012, 06:59 PM
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I don't have a cast iron griddle big enough, or a pizza stone. I should get one I guess.

What I do to get a crust that is done is half bake it, after poking it all over with a fork, then take it from the oven, top with desired toppings and cheeses, then put it back in the oven until the cheese is as you like it.

My home made pizza may not be classic, but I like it. Sometimes I like a "supreme" with everything on it, and sometimes I like anchovy pizza. The latter is basically a cheese pizza with chopped anchovies mixed in with the cheese.
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:10 PM
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I switched to making my pizza crusts with chickpea flour (socca) and have not looked back.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:54 PM
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Feta makes every pizza better and I've never had a quattro formaggi anywhere I didn't like.
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Old 07-07-2012, 01:19 AM
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This is a subject very near and dear to me. I have worked for most of the major pizza chains in the US, and have sampled many, many "mom and pop" places in my state. It was part of my job.

I would have a very hard time picking one place or style because they are different enough to me, as to be different types of food almost.

I like Chicago style (I've paid through the nose to have them delivered frozen), New York style (which seems to be more regional pride than tastiness), Ohio style (which is usually heavy pepperoni with an oregano sprinkle, square cut), and the rectangular tart sauce that's usually square cut in a pan.

If I had to choose a style it would be thin crust. As much as the crust taste can be really good, I like tasting the toppings more, usually.

I'm a carnivore, but the first time I ever had a pizza with spicy sauce, green peppers, onion, tomatoes (I'm picky about them) , feta and a Parmesan sprinkle, I was sold. Add chicken for the meat eaters and you have a winner.

I'm not gonna give an endorsement, but if anyone in northern Ohio sees this, ..TP&C, let me know what you think.

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Old 07-07-2012, 10:07 AM
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Thin crust with sausage. It must be from our great local pizzaria. My husband brought home Domino's once. It was so disgusting we fed it to the cats. I have no idea how a bad chain survives in the heart of NJ Italian pizza country.
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Old 07-07-2012, 10:09 AM
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Whichever one is in front of me.
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Old 07-07-2012, 02:23 PM
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Beef and Sausage is my standard order. Beef, ham, and pineapple. Depends on my mood.

Standard crispy, thin crust.

I did like pan style years ago when Pizza Hut first introduced them. But, gave up trying to find a good pan style pizza anymore. Good pan style should be light and chewy crust. Not dense like a brick. I'm not sure, but doesn't pan style require time for the dough to rise in the pan? I seem to recall they had to make up a bunch of pan style crusts ahead of time and then add the toppings & cook during the dinner rush.

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Old 07-07-2012, 02:35 PM
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My favorite [i]style[/] of pizza is one I've found only in southern Ohio, at places like Jerry's bar in Chillicothe, Marion's Piazza in Beavercreek, or at Cassano's Pizza King in the Dayton area.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/jerrys-pizza-chillicothe, http://www.marionspiazza.com/, http://www.cassanos.com

It's a super-thin, crispy pizza usually cut into 2x2 inch squares or narrow strips about 1x6 inches. The toppings are chopped very finely and are evenly mixed and distributed over the surface of the pie.

Mmmmm .... Pizza heaven
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Old 07-08-2012, 07:31 AM
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New Haven white clam. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Haven-style_pizza . Possibly the best pizza, ever.
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:08 AM
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This shoulda been a poll.

NY is best but almost any "style." Most any "normal" pizza toppings. No anchovies or "weird" stuff like pineapple etc. As I get older I'm leaning more to veggie and less to the meats, esp the greasy/nasty stuff like pepperoni.
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:30 AM
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Cold pepperoni and pineapple pizza makes a wonderful breakfast.

We do pizza on the grill at least once a week. Quick, easy and cheap. What more could you ask for?
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