I didn't realize that it was considered okay to accuse posters of being drunk

[Ibn Warraq]

Originally Posted by TubaDiva

IbnWarraq, this is a community of lively discourse. You seem to be easily offended ... perhaps too much so. Not every situation is an outrage.

I'm sorry you feel that way, but it's not true. I'm actually all that easily offended. I was actually more offended by RNALTB's comment regarding Jibril Rajoub, then the personal insult directed at me.

Moreover, I wasn't upset about being insulted, and very much appreciate RNALTB apologizing, I was upset that Marley decided not to mod a post containing a personal insult directed at me while feeling the need to mod a post in which I did not make any insults but merely critiqued a post.

I like and respect Marley, but yes, I agree with Finn that he made a bad call that was extremely hypocritical.

[Colibri]

Originally Posted by Ibn Warraq

I'm sorry you feel that way, but it's not true. I'm actually all that easily offended.

You've just spent 26 posts, and an astonishing amount of verbiage, expounding in excruciating detail upon the perceived offense. I've seen Master's theses that weren't this long.

I'm glad that you're not easily offended, because who knows how long this thread would go on if you were.

[Ibn Warraq]

Originally Posted by Colibri

I'm glad that you're not easily offended, because who knows how long this thread would go on if you were.

Probably another 15 pages.

In all seriousness, it's dramatically easy to be misperceived on the internet and very easy to be perceived as being upset when you're not. Some people tend to be long-winded and I am definitely one of those. Moreover, most of my posts were responses to others.

[FinnAgain]

Originally Posted by Marley23

I did say that Really Not All That Bright's comment about posting drunk was not appropriate for GD. I added that Ibn Warraq's accusation of racism was also unwanted - partly because it seemed to have nothing to do with anything, which meant it was probably going to lead to a hijack.

Well, the problem is that one is an actual rules violation while the other is not. The actual rules violation was kinda brushed aside by you while you intimated that Ibn's charge was baseless, and you focused extensively on Ibn's behavior which wasn't against the rules. I think that, all in all, the issue was that you appeared to be coming down much harder on Ibn because his posting style is something you find to be negative, while you weren't focusing on a rules violation which you seemed to have been minimizing.

Eh, it's minor, but it's worth paying attention to.

[Ibn Warraq]

Originally Posted by FinnAgain

Well, the problem is that one is an actual rules violation while the other is not. The actual rules violation was kinda brushed aside by you while you intimated that Ibn's charge was baseless, and you focused extensively on Ibn's behavior which wasn't against the rules. I think that, all in all, the issue was that you appeared to be coming own much harder on Ibn because his posting style is something you find to be negative, while you weren't focusing on a rules violation which you seemed to have been minimizing.

Eh, it's minor, but it's worth paying attention to.

Thanks, that's a much better worded more concise version of what I was trying to say.

[FinnAgain]

I think that's the only time any Doper has ever said I'm the opposite of a wordy motherfucker.

[Jack Batty]

I would like to go on record as stating that no one should every accuse me of posting drunk; they should just take it as a standing assumption.

[Drunky Smurf]

I to would feel damn insluted if someone claimdd I was posting while dronk.

[Guinastasia]

Originally Posted by Jack Batty

I would like to go on record as stating that no one should every accuse me of posting drunk; they should just take it as a standing assumption.

*belch*

[BigT]

Originally Posted by C K Dexter Haven

Wishing death on other posters is not just personal insult, but a direct violation of the rules. Do not do this again. I'm not issuing an Official Warning, on the off-chance that this is some sort of quote or reference with which I am unfamiliar. Link to Registration Agreement: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...d.php?t=650726

I think it was in reference to the "personal war": i.e. go ahead and surrender, and stop making a fuss. Then again, I've had posts in the past where I meant something innocuous like that and gotten a Warning, so it's probably not a good idea to post stuff like that without clarifying.

As for my opinion on the OP--it's quite simple: people are under the delusion that the mods don't allow insults. They do. They don't allow name-calling, which they call "personal insults." They do in general allow negative accusations. GD has an extra rule about attacking the post and not the poster, but it's usually enforced only by mod notes and not warnings.

And that's what happened here. In fact, I bet that, if RNATB had rephrased his statement as "That post could have been made by a drunk person," I bet it would have been fine.

And, yes, when the mods do give a mod note, it's generally a bad idea to ask them to change it to a Warning, particularly out in public. It comes off like whining that someone wasn't punished hard enough.

[FinnAgain]

Originally Posted by BigT

As for my opinion on the OP--it's quite simple: people are under the delusion that the mods don't allow insults.

Only if they don't read the stickies. The mods do not allow direct personal insults, they do not enforce a Pollyanna schema whereby anything insulting is verboten. Or course, as you just accused me of trolling in a recent GD thread, perhaps you could use some of that sauce, gander.

Originally Posted by BigT

In fact, I bet that, if RNATB had rephrased his statement as "That post could have been made by a drunk person," I bet it would have been fine.

That's probably a pretty poor bet. "That's a stupid argument" is quite different from "that argument could only have been posted by a stupid person." The distinction should be eminently clear.

[TriPolar]

Apparently the mods can do it anytime they want. Lacking any violation of rules or indications otherwise. But it is easier for them to just create rules on the fly so that they can use their position to select what can be posted based on their personal preferences.

[Vinyl Turnip]

udrunkbro?