SDMB Big League Fantasy Football 2012

[Munch]

I put together an interesting chart. It shows how many players people drafted that they nominated themselves. It also includes a column that takes out any $1 players you bought.

Team			Same	Same >$1		
9 Inch Neils (RNATB)	3	  2
Cobra Kai		3	  2
Court Jesters		8	  1
Curry Porkrinds		10	  8
Evil Monkey		7	  2
Exploding Pancakes	7	  2
Frosted_Lightning	6	  3
Garcon's Cedilla	5	  4
Living Through Them	2	  0
No Use For A Name II	4	  2
Not Sure		2	  2
Overly Sentimental	6	  2
Phoenix Redbirds	8	  4
Red Hochuli Peppers	8	  6
Return of Ryan Leaf	2	  1
Rough and Tumblrs	7	  2
Scissor Me Timbers	6	  0
The Fleas (Wilson)	5	  1
Unrelated Siblings	1	  0
Up By Three		3	  2

[Frosted Glass]

1. (15) Chris Johnson (Ten - RB) $51
I fully expect Johnson to be back in top-notch form this season and it pays to have a productive back in this league.

2. (65) DeSean Jackson (Phi - WR) $31
Jackson is going to surprise a lot of people and really erase last season from memory. As a receiver, he is still a beast and Vick works well with him at number 1.

3. (77) Jermichael Finley (GB - TE) $23
Finley may have had some preseason injury issues, but he will definitely get catches when he gets back into it.

4. (85) Alex Smith (SF - QB) $11
No idea really. In theory, his numbers should go up this season with the new offense set up. Still, as long as he doesn't have a bunch of turnovers I will be happy with this pick up. I also cannot complain about the price of this pick at all.

5. (126) Isaac Redman (Pit - RB) $14
Not thrilled with this pick looking back. Hopefully he will surprise me until Mendenhall comes back.

6. (127) Mark Ingram (NO - RB) $12
Ingram should prove himself as a solid flex option when the Saints square up against weaker run Defenses. He will get scores even though he is in a carousel backfield.

7. (135) Santonio Holmes (NYJ - WR) $13
He's a receiver for the Jets. Being at the top of their list at least means someone will throw the ball to him.

8. (165) Green Bay (GB - DEF) $5
Solid defense and I would hate to basically toss this position in a league of this size. Every little bit will help and GB will provide me with some nice DEF numbers.

9. (167) Michael Crabtree (SF - WR) $16
Coming into the season with no injury issues should help Crabtree build off of a pretty solid finish to last season. It is also going to be nice to see how he works with Moss lined up on the other side. I expect him to get some solid opportunities.

10. (180) Alshon Jeffery (Chi - WR) $6
Pretty excited to see what he can do this season. Definitely worth the price considering the potential.

11. (182) Coby Fleener (Ind - TE) $4
Hopefully, catching passes from his college QB will help him do big things as a rookie.

12. (187) Ryan Fitzpatrick (Buf - QB) $11
Nice backup...why did he cost as much as my starter?

13. (245) Neil Rackers (Was - K) $1
14. (286) Emmanuel Sanders (Pit - WR) $1
15. (294) Bernard Pierce (Bal - RB) $1

[Wilson]

This was my first ever auction league in Fantasy Football. I didn't have much of a strategy - not to have any money left over (duh), pay big for a couple of players I really wanted, and to not go crazy on a top QB. From reading what I have, looks like the third one is against conventional wisdom.

QB - Robert Griffin III ($15), Christian Ponder ($7)
Well, this is not what I expected... I thought I was just bidding up RGIII, I was fully expecting to bid twice that later for one of the Mannings. When I got RGIII for what I think is a reasonable price, I changed gears. I knew I wanted a backup, and Ponder's OK at that price.

RB - Matt Forte ($51), Adrian Peterson ($40), Bernard Scott ($8), Montario Hardesty ($2), Chris Ivory ($1)
Forte is a player I targeted, and I got him for what I think is a reasonable price. AP.... could be great value at that price, could be a massive overpay. Health is everything with these two. No decent backup. Did I really spend $8 on Bernard Scott??? Hardesty is a good gamble I think.

WR - Jeremy Maclin ($30), Brandon Lloyd ($27), Stevie Johnson ($18), Steve Breaston ($1)
Love those top three. Maclin I may have overpaid for, but I love Lloyd and Stevie at those prices. Lloyd was a top target of mine. I really wanted Hakeem Nicks, but he came up before I had a good feel of the WR market. I should have kept bidding on him rather than spending so much on Maclin later. No bench at all here, obviously.

TE - Heath Miller ($2), Martellus Bennett ($2)
Meh. Not bad for four dollars. Heath is probably over the hill, and Bennett may not be all that.

K - Rob Bironas; DEF/ST - San Diego (both at $1)
Whatever. Wasn't going to spend anything at these positions.

Final analysis - I'm OK with the team - I have a solid top six, assuming AP is healthy (big assumption). I really, really should have done what it took to get Gerhardt. I don't have any good options at flex, however. Will need to keep my eye out for quality in-season pickups.

[Munch]

I don't have any good options at flex, however.

Once you do the math of starters in the NFL v. this league, I think you'll see that juggling Breaston and Scott isn't a terrible flex option itself. There's plenty of viability in punting a roster spot and plugging someone in that has an outside chance of targets/carries. It's nice when someone solidifies - but it's not something you can count on going into Week 1.

[dalej42]

Ugh, the autopicker was nice enough to draft me a good team for 2008. I will have to make sure I attend the draft in full next year, auction drafts just don't work on autopick.

QB: Jay Cutler $23, John Skelton $3. Not a bad price for 2 starters. Cutler could be quite a steal at $23, but he's been on the 'should break out' list for how many years now? Skelton is a starter, and at least I'm always on top of the Cardinals QB situation.

RB: Toby Gerhard $10, Doug Martin $32, Michael Bush $10, Tim Hightower $4. Well, I probably overpaid for Martin, but at least I've got 2 starters and an interesting RB in Bush. Hightower might end up on a team if there is an injury in the 1st week.

WR: Roddy White $39, Jordy Nelson $36, Michael Floyd $8, Terrell Owens $1. I love having White and Nelson. I wouldn't have taken Owens for a $1, I think he's done.

TE: Brandon Pettigrew $20, Todd Heap $1. I love Pettigrew, I wouldn't have probably drafted a backup if it wasn't for the autopicker.

D/ST: Buffalo $6 I wanted them for the games they've got against the Jets and Dolphins. Plus, I figure they've got some late season games in crap weather.

K: Yes, the autopicker drafted me 2 kickers that aren't on active rosters right now!

[dalej42]

Originally Posted by Wilson

Final analysis - I'm OK with the team - I have a solid top six, assuming AP is healthy (big assumption). I really, really should have done what it took to get Gerhardt. I don't have any good options at flex, however. Will need to keep my eye out for quality in-season pickups.

This league is tough to trade in, I'm certainly willing to consider trading Gerhardt, but at first glance I don't see a deal that would work.

[D_Odds]

Originally Posted by Wilson

TE - Heath Miller ($2), Martellus Bennett ($2)
Meh. Not bad for four dollars. Heath is probably over the hill, and Bennett may not be all that.

I was willing to bet my remaining $4-5 on Bennett. I think he'll work with Coughlin/Manning. Manning likes the TE and Bennett is really all he'll have. But I was half dozing by that point, and missed his nomination.

[SenorBeef]

That second list, with all the positions in cost order, was what I was looking for, thanks. But would you mind also posting each team's results in one post for future reference?

Self review:

I deviated from my strategy significantly this year, which will end up costing me. I don't know how much I should detail my strategy lest you all use my fantasy genius against me. But in general terms, I prefer to seek value in the middle of the draft after the big expensive guys are gone and build the most efficient dollar per point team I can manage, and it's worked for me in the past.

QB - Aaron Rodgers $58, Ryan Tannehill $1

One of the things I've consistently done in this league was to try to find a value QB who could maybe do 20-30% less than the best QBs but cost 1/4th as much, but every year I ended up regretting it, and often trading for a better QB. The relative values of QBs to the rest of the positions in this league changes due to the scarcity at the position relative to normal leagues. The fact that QBs are the top absolute scorers become worth more - you can't count on easily grabbing a top 12 QB like you generally can in smaller leagues, and the dropoff is steep from there. QBs gain in relative terms due to their absolute score generation in a league where replacement level players are much worse and reliable point scorers are scarcer.

That said, it makes the top QBs more valuable relative to the top RBs, but I don't know if I had to really go out and spend a ton for Rodgers. In previous years I'd have gone for Vick at $29, Cutler at $23, and Roethlisberger at $18 as much better point per dollar values. I'm not sure yet if I've made a mistake. But in terms of reliable, high ceiling points production, Rodgers has got to be the single most valuable player in the league.

Tannehill - well, I was down to $1 picks and in this league not everyone can draft a backup QB. Getting a starter for $1 is a good thing even if he's going to suck. There's at least some upside there.

WR - AJ Green $36, Julio Jones $35, Kendall Wright $7, DeVier Posey $1.

My receiving corps is young, speculative, and not that cheap for what it is. High ceilings, risky floors, only okay value. In the past I'd probably draft one $30 receiver and try to get a bunch of $15-22 guys. Not sure if I made the right call here. I'm not even sure I'm in love with my expensive guys, but based on the WR market at the time they seemed reasonable values. Posey is a pretty decent lottery ticket for when Andre Johnson gets hurt. My guys definitely have upside and chance to surprise, but maybe I should've gone lower risk and diversified more by picking up more $20 guys.

TE Vernon Davis $21, Jordan Cameron $1

I like Davis this year - SF's receivers will clear out space for Davis to work, but Smith isn't good enough to get the ball to the deep receivers consistently, which is the ideal circumstances for Davis - room to run, and lots of targets. I think he's going to be the 4th TE this year, with the upside to go even higher, so pretty good value. Jordan Cameron is a lottery ticket - he's one of the basketball player converts that could surprise.

RB Johnathan Stewart $16, Ryan Williams $11, Isaiah Pead $6, Alfred Morris $3, Javon Ringer $1.

I list the RB position late because that's how I ended up addressing it in the draft. Just not enough resources spent here, I was hoping I'd dig up some value very late, but when the time came, everyone else was chasing after all the same potential sleepers and I couldn't do much. Johnathan Stewart is pretty solid value at $16, Ryan Williams likely becomes a starting RB and therefore decent value at $11, but the upside there is pretty limited. I'm clearly just patching in whatever I can manage at that point. Isaiah Pead can be nothing or maybe he'll be a Darren Sproles type presence in St. Louis. And at Steven Jackson has a decent chance of breaking down this year. Alfred Morris is a low cost ticket into the Shanahan Running Back Minigame. I don't like playing it, but Morris looked good so far, and he's exactly the sort of guy that springs up out of nowhere under Shanahan. Good gamble. Javon Ringer is a pure lottery ticket for a Chris Johnson injury.

K/DST David Akers $2, Denver $1

Not much to say. Akers was far and away the best kicker last year and has a decent shot of repeating, so I'm willing to spend 1 extra dollar to pick him up. Denver was basically the last of the $1 defenses available. I don't like them much, but they've got potential.

Overall, I like this team, but not as much as I've liked my past teams. My RB position is just too cobbled together. But a few things go my way - Green and Jones improve on their rookie season, Rodgers stays healthy, and one of those running backs becomes a solid starter, and my team is in good shape.

[mhendo]

I'm not quite sure what to make of my team, in some ways. I think there's some real possibilities there, but i also fucked a few things up, due partly to not paying attention.

Anyway:

QB - Jake Locker $5, Mark Sanchez $5

Two QBS, neither one a stud, but neither a complete scrub either. Sanchez was 10th in Fantasy value among QBs last year, although i don't expect him to be that high again. He gets killed by his turnovers - interceptions and fumbles. Locker's a gamble, but i thought that the chance he would have a good year made him (possibly) worth the money. He is, at worst, a decent backup option in a league where those can be hard to come by.

RB - Arian Foster $58, Maurice Jones-Drew $42, Daniel Thomas $4

Not to much to say about Foster. If he doesn't get hurt, he should put up great numbers. A few people last night were of the opinion that I got him for a decent price (based on the size of the league, and his Yahoo valuation, i expected him to go for $65-70). Still, i wonder whether it might not have been better to spend less on a less valuable player, in exchange for more depth.

Jones-Drew could end up being a bargain, or the exact opposite. He rushed for over 1600 last year, but is starting as a third-down back this week, and while he's officially in front of Jennings on the depth chart, most commentators think that Jennings is really the main guy, for now at least.

Thomas isn't great, and even if he gets the same number of yards as last year, he's not a guy they go to close to the line, so he's not likely to bring much in the way of TDs.

WR - Wes Welker $38, Jon Baldwin $7, Doug Baldwin $6, Andre Roberts $2, Lee Evans $2

I'd be incredibly happy if Welker repeated his 2011 performance, but even if he regresses a bit to his usual numbers, he's still a solid pick. Probably not the best value in the league, but i'm glad i've got him.

The two Baldwins and Roberts will make up the rest of the WR corp. Doug is solid, and Jon could have an upside that will make him a good pickup. Roberts obviously won't be a target anywhere near as often as Fitzgerald, but i hope he can improve on last year's number in yards and TDs.

Evans was a waste of money. He's not even on a roster, and was NA when i bid. My fault for not paying attention, but i also think that Yahoo should make it impossible to nominate NA players in the draft.

TE - Dustin Keller $8, Ed Dickson $4

Pretty decent here, although two was maybe overkill. Keller's a solid, consistent TE, and if his numbers keep improving the way they have over the past couple of years, i'll be happy. Not sure i needed a backup, but Dickson might be worth having, maybe even as trade material.

K/DST Stephen Gostkowski $4, Detroit $5, Arizona $1

Happy enough with Gostkowski and Detroit, although probably should have paid less for them. Ended up with Arizona late because i nominated them without thinking, and of course no-one else was going to pay more than $1 for last year's 22nd-ranked defense. My fault for not paying attention.


If i have a regret about this draft, it's that i should have spent a bit more on a more solid, mid-level WR and/or RB. I ended up with $9 left over, in addition to paying too much for my K/DST combo, so i could have done better. I guess i might end up regretting the route i went with my QB, but there are worse out there than Sanchez, and the backup could also contribute.

[Gray Ghost]

Originally Posted by SenorBeef

That second list, with all the positions in cost order, was what I was looking for, thanks. But would you mind also posting each team's results in one post for future reference?..

It is done. Sorted by Team Name alphabetically, then by position (alphabetically, despite telling Excel the specific order I wanted them in.), then by cost within that position. Again, the formatting's going to suck.

Position Drafted	Player	Team	Position	Cost	Drafting Team
2	Pittsburgh 	Pit 	 DEF 	$4 	9 Inch Neils (RNATB)
234	Nate Kaeding 	SD 	 K 	$2 	9 Inch Neils (RNATB)
79	Matt Schaub 	Hou 	 QB 	$19 	9 Inch Neils (RNATB)
261	Blaine Gabbert 	Jac 	 QB 	$3 	9 Inch Neils (RNATB)
59	DeMarco Murray 	Dal 	 RB 	$42 	9 Inch Neils (RNATB)
62	Fred Jackson 	Buf 	 RB 	$34 	9 Inch Neils (RNATB)
184	Kevin Smith 	Det 	 RB 	$17 	9 Inch Neils (RNATB)
243	Bilal Powell 	NYJ 	 RB 	$3 	9 Inch Neils (RNATB)
116	Jahvid Best 	Det 	 RB 	$2 	9 Inch Neils (RNATB)
216	Dallas Clark 	TB 	 TE 	$2 	9 Inch Neils (RNATB)
201	Kellen Winslow 	Sea 	 TE 	$2 	9 Inch Neils (RNATB)
13	Andre Johnson 	Hou 	 WR 	$42 	9 Inch Neils (RNATB)
95	Robert Meachem 	SD 	 WR 	$14 	9 Inch Neils (RNATB)
193	Devery Henderson 	NO 	 WR 	$2 	9 Inch Neils (RNATB)
275	Vincent Brown 	SD 	 WR 	$1 	9 Inch Neils (RNATB)

130	San Francisco 	SF 	 DEF 	$10 	Cobra Kai
210	Phil Dawson 	Cle 	 K 	$1 	Cobra Kai
110	Joe Flacco 	Bal 	 QB 	$17 	Cobra Kai
106	Stevan Ridley 	NE 	 RB 	$20 	Cobra Kai
105	David Wilson 	NYG 	 RB 	$16 	Cobra Kai
171	James Starks 	GB 	 RB 	$6 	Cobra Kai
225	LaMichael James 	SF 	 RB 	$2 	Cobra Kai
76	Jason Witten 	Dal 	 TE 	$13 	Cobra Kai
136	Tony Gonzalez 	Atl 	 TE 	$13 	Cobra Kai
125	Lance Moore 	NO 	 WR 	$26 	Cobra Kai
115	Reggie Wayne 	Ind 	 WR 	$20 	Cobra Kai
118	Titus Young 	Det 	 WR 	$19 	Cobra Kai
121	Sidney Rice 	Sea 	 WR 	$17 	Cobra Kai
137	Greg Little 	Cle 	 WR 	$15 	Cobra Kai
244	David Nelson 	Buf 	 WR 	$4 	Cobra Kai

282	Carolina 	Car 	 DEF 	$1 	Court Jesters
251	Oakland 	Oak 	 DEF 	$1 	Court Jesters
291	St. Louis 	StL 	 DEF 	$1 	Court Jesters
233	Lawrence Tynes 	NYG 	 K 	$1 	Court Jesters
63	Eli Manning 	NYG 	 QB 	$37 	Court Jesters
26	Trent Richardson 	Cle 	 RB 	$38 	Court Jesters
71	Frank Gore 	SF 	 RB 	$29 	Court Jesters
86	Mikel LeShoure 	Det 	 RB 	$12 	Court Jesters
124	Rashad Jennings 	Jac 	 RB 	$10 	Court Jesters
297	Anthony Fasano 	Mia 	 TE 	$1 	Court Jesters
113	Bear Pascoe 	NYG 	 TE 	$1 	Court Jesters
34	Greg Jennings 	GB 	 WR 	$39 	Court Jesters
53	Kenny Britt 	Ten 	 WR 	$23 	Court Jesters
236	Stephen Hill 	NYJ 	 WR 	$2 	Court Jesters
213	Mohamed Massaquoi 	Cle 	 WR 	$1 	Court Jesters

39	Seattle 	Sea 	 DEF 	$5 	Curry Porkrinds
199	New York 	NYJ 	 DEF 	$3 	Curry Porkrinds
19	Cam Newton 	Car 	 QB 	$45 	Curry Porkrinds
185	Josh Freeman 	TB 	 QB 	$11 	Curry Porkrinds
82	Shonn Greene 	NYJ 	 RB 	$22 	Curry Porkrinds
139	Cedric Benson 	GB 	 RB 	$19 	Curry Porkrinds
179	Robert Turbin 	Sea 	 RB 	$4 	Curry Porkrinds
159	Tyrell Sutton 	Sea 	 RB 	$1 	Curry Porkrinds
94	Greg Olsen 	Car 	 TE 	$14 	Curry Porkrinds
183	Tony Moeaki 	KC 	 TE 	$7 	Curry Porkrinds
98	Pierre Garcon 	Was 	 WR 	$27 	Curry Porkrinds
99	Torrey Smith 	Bal 	 WR 	$25 	Curry Porkrinds
239	Brandon LaFell 	Car 	 WR 	$6 	Curry Porkrinds
219	Braylon Edwards 	Sea 	 WR 	$5 	Curry Porkrinds
257	Harry Douglas 	Atl 	 WR 	$1 	Curry Porkrinds

158	Chicago 	Chi 	 DEF 	$6 	Evil Monkey
293	Billy Cundiff 	Was 	 K 	$1 	Evil Monkey
273	Mike Nugent 	Cin 	 K 	$1 	Evil Monkey
284	Nick Novak 	SD 	 K 	$1 	Evil Monkey
258	Rian Lindell 	Buf 	 K 	$1 	Evil Monkey
240	Shaun Suisham 	Pit 	 K 	$1 	Evil Monkey
74	Ben Roethlisberger 	Pit 	 QB 	$17 	Evil Monkey
56	Michael Turner 	Atl 	 RB 	$34 	Evil Monkey
20	Donald Brown 	Ind 	 RB 	$16 	Evil Monkey
140	Mike Tolbert 	Car 	 RB 	$4 	Evil Monkey
84	Jermaine Gresham 	Cin 	 TE 	$8 	Evil Monkey
14	Brandon Marshall 	Chi 	 WR 	$39 	Evil Monkey
36	Hakeem Nicks 	NYG 	 WR 	$35 	Evil Monkey
41	Mike Wallace 	Pit 	 WR 	$34 	Evil Monkey
133	Jerricho Cotchery 	Pit 	 WR 	$2 	Evil Monkey

287	Denver 	Den 	 DEF 	$1 	Exploding Pancakes
134	David Akers 	SF 	 K 	$2 	Exploding Pancakes
5	Aaron Rodgers 	GB 	 QB 	$58 	Exploding Pancakes
246	Ryan Tannehill 	Mia 	 QB 	$1 	Exploding Pancakes
96	Jonathan Stewart 	Car 	 RB 	$16 	Exploding Pancakes
170	Ryan Williams 	Ari 	 RB 	$11 	Exploding Pancakes
143	Isaiah Pead 	StL 	 RB 	$6 	Exploding Pancakes
166	Alfred Morris 	Was 	 RB 	$3 	Exploding Pancakes
263	Javon Ringer 	Ten 	 RB 	$1 	Exploding Pancakes
66	Vernon Davis 	SF 	 TE 	$21 	Exploding Pancakes
277	Jordan Cameron 	Cle 	 TE 	$1 	Exploding Pancakes
55	A.J. Green 	Cin 	 WR 	$36 	Exploding Pancakes
70	Julio Jones 	Atl 	 WR 	$35 	Exploding Pancakes
154	Kendall Wright 	Ten 	 WR 	$7 	Exploding Pancakes
226	DeVier Posey 	Hou 	 WR 	$1 	Exploding Pancakes

165	Green Bay 	GB 	 DEF 	$5 	Frosted_Lightning
245	Neil Rackers 	Was 	 K 	$1 	Frosted_Lightning
85	Alex Smith 	SF 	 QB 	$11 	Frosted_Lightning
187	Ryan Fitzpatrick 	Buf 	 QB 	$11 	Frosted_Lightning
15	Chris Johnson 	Ten 	 RB 	$51 	Frosted_Lightning
126	Isaac Redman 	Pit 	 RB 	$14 	Frosted_Lightning
127	Mark Ingram 	NO 	 RB 	$12 	Frosted_Lightning
294	Bernard Pierce 	Bal 	 RB 	$1 	Frosted_Lightning
77	Jermichael Finley 	GB 	 TE 	$23 	Frosted_Lightning
182	Coby Fleener 	Ind 	 TE 	$4 	Frosted_Lightning
65	DeSean Jackson 	Phi 	 WR 	$31 	Frosted_Lightning
167	Michael Crabtree 	SF 	 WR 	$16 	Frosted_Lightning
135	Santonio Holmes 	NYJ 	 WR 	$13 	Frosted_Lightning
180	Alshon Jeffery 	Chi 	 WR 	$6 	Frosted_Lightning
286	Emmanuel Sanders 	Pit 	 WR 	$1 	Frosted_Lightning

163	Cincinnati 	Cin 	 DEF 	$4 	Garcon's Cedilla
209	Mason Crosby 	GB 	 K 	$2 	Garcon's Cedilla
21	Michael Vick 	Phi 	 QB 	$29 	Garcon's Cedilla
207	Matt Cassel 	KC 	 QB 	$9 	Garcon's Cedilla
37	Steven Jackson 	StL 	 RB 	$30 	Garcon's Cedilla
131	C.J. Spiller 	Buf 	 RB 	$16 	Garcon's Cedilla
203	Shane Vereen 	NE 	 RB 	$3 	Garcon's Cedilla
97	Fred Davis 	Was 	 TE 	$17 	Garcon's Cedilla
260	Kellen Davis 	Chi 	 TE 	$2 	Garcon's Cedilla
17	Calvin Johnson 	Det 	 WR 	$58 	Garcon's Cedilla
156	Anquan Boldin 	Bal 	 WR 	$15 	Garcon's Cedilla
223	Jerome Simpson 	Min 	 WR 	$8 	Garcon's Cedilla
195	Rueben Randle 	NYG 	 WR 	$4 	Garcon's Cedilla
186	Josh Gordon 	Cle 	 WR 	$2 	Garcon's Cedilla
123	Kevin Ogletree 	Dal 	 WR 	$1 	Garcon's Cedilla

268	Kansas City 	KC 	 DEF 	$4 	Living Through Them
253	Shayne Graham 	Hou 	 K 	$1 	Living Through Them
1	Tom Brady 	NE 	 QB 	$48 	Living Through Them
91	Ahmad Bradshaw 	NYG 	 RB 	$20 	Living Through Them
93	Peyton Hillis 	KC 	 RB 	$20 	Living Through Them
150	Rashard Mendenhall 	Pit 	 RB 	$15 	Living Through Them
47	Aaron Hernandez 	NE 	 TE 	$31 	Living Through Them
198	Joel Dreessen 	Den 	 TE 	$4 	Living Through Them
58	Percy Harvin 	Min 	 WR 	$34 	Living Through Them
218	Austin Collie 	Ind 	 WR 	$7 	Living Through Them
148	Devin Hester 	Chi 	 WR 	$6 	Living Through Them
256	Jacoby Ford 	Oak 	 WR 	$2 	Living Through Them
119	Louis Murphy 	Car 	 WR 	$2 	Living Through Them
188	Ryan Broyles 	Det 	 WR 	$2 	Living Through Them
270	Keshawn Martin 	Hou 	 WR 	$1 	Living Through Them

264	Atlanta 	Atl 	 DEF 	$2 	No Use For A Name II
271	Greg Zuerlein 	StL 	 K 	$1 	No Use For A Name II
61	Tony Romo 	Dal 	 QB 	$26 	No Use For A Name II
206	Sam Bradford 	StL 	 QB 	$6 	No Use For A Name II
102	BenJarvus Green-Ellis 	Cin 	 RB	$22 	No Use For A Name II
16	LeSean McCoy 	Phi 	 RB 	$61 	No Use For A Name II
157	Kendall Hunter 	SF 	 RB 	$6 	No Use For A Name II
189	Lamar Miller 	Mia 	 RB 	$2 	No Use For A Name II
250	Lance Kendricks 	StL 	 TE 	$2 	No Use For A Name II
83	Vincent Jackson 	TB 	 WR 	$26 	No Use For A Name II
68	Justin Blackmon 	Jac 	 WR 	$18 	No Use For A Name II
142	Nate Washington 	Ten 	 WR 	$13 	No Use For A Name II
217	James Jones 	GB 	 WR 	$7 	No Use For A Name II
266	Brian Quick 	StL 	 WR 	$2 	No Use For A Name II
255	Greg Salas 	NE 	 WR 	$1 	No Use For A Name II

178	Philadelphia 	Phi 	 DEF 	$6 	Not Sure
129	Sebastian Janikowski 	Oak 	 K 	$2 	Not Sure
38	Matt Ryan 	Atl 	 QB 	$41 	Not Sure
25	Darren McFadden 	Oak 	 RB 	$46 	Not Sure
50	Marshawn Lynch 	Sea 	 RB 	$38 	Not Sure
103	Roy Helu 	Was 	 RB 	$10 	Not Sure
205	Brandon Jacobs 	SF 	 RB 	$4 	Not Sure
173	Joseph Addai 	NE 	 RB 	$4 	Not Sure
144	Brent Celek 	Phi 	 TE 	$8 	Not Sure
152	Randall Cobb 	GB 	 WR 	$11 	Not Sure
155	Santana Moss 	Was 	 WR 	$10 	Not Sure
147	Mike Williams 	TB 	 WR 	$8 	Not Sure
200	Mario Manningham 	SF 	 WR 	$5 	Not Sure
232	Eddie Royal 	SD 	 WR 	$4 	Not Sure
281	Jason Avant 	Phi 	 WR 	$2 	Not Sure

168	New England 	NE 	 DEF 	$4 	Overly Sentimental
112	Miami 	Mia 	 DEF 	$1 	Overly Sentimental
192	Jason Hanson 	Det 	 K 	$1 	Overly Sentimental
67	Peyton Manning 	Den 	 QB 	$32 	Overly Sentimental
149	Russell Wilson 	Sea 	 QB 	$8 	Overly Sentimental
64	Reggie Bush 	Mia 	 RB 	$26 	Overly Sentimental
117	Willis McGahee 	Den 	 RB 	$19 	Overly Sentimental
9	Ronnie Brown 	SD 	 RB 	$6 	Overly Sentimental
267	Chris Rainey 	Pit 	 RB 	$1 	Overly Sentimental
42	Antonio Gates 	SD 	 TE 	$29 	Overly Sentimental
52	Dwayne Bowe 	KC 	 WR 	$28 	Overly Sentimental
78	Eric Decker 	Den 	 WR 	$23 	Overly Sentimental
132	Malcom Floyd 	SD 	 WR 	$18 	Overly Sentimental
228	Brandon Tate 	Cin 	 WR 	$3 	Overly Sentimental
290	Brian Hartline 	Mia 	 WR 	$1 	Overly Sentimental

92	Buffalo 	Buf 	 DEF 	$6 	Phoenix Redbirds
299	Graham Gano 	Was 	 K 	$1 	Phoenix Redbirds
249	John Kasay 	NO 	 K 	$1 	Phoenix Redbirds
69	Jay Cutler 	Chi 	 QB 	$23 	Phoenix Redbirds
109	John Skelton 	Ari 	 QB 	$3 	Phoenix Redbirds
40	Doug Martin 	TB 	 RB 	$32 	Phoenix Redbirds
120	Michael Bush 	Chi 	 RB 	$10 	Phoenix Redbirds
29	Toby Gerhart 	Min 	 RB 	$10 	Phoenix Redbirds
176	Tim Hightower 	Was 	 RB 	$4 	Phoenix Redbirds
49	Brandon Pettigrew 	Det 	 TE 	$20 	Phoenix Redbirds
296	Todd Heap 	Ari 	 TE 	$1 	Phoenix Redbirds
11	Roddy White 	Atl 	 WR 	$39 	Phoenix Redbirds
46	Jordy Nelson 	GB 	 WR 	$36 	Phoenix Redbirds
107	Michael Floyd 	Ari 	 WR 	$8 	Phoenix Redbirds
280	Terrell Owens 	Sea 	 WR 	$1 	Phoenix Redbirds

214	New York 	NYG 	 DEF 	$4 	Red Hochuli Peppers
241	Tennessee 	Ten 	 DEF 	$2 	Red Hochuli Peppers
194	Matt Prater 	Den 	 K 	$2 	Red Hochuli Peppers
87	Andrew Luck 	Ind 	 QB 	$10 	Red Hochuli Peppers
248	Brandon Weeden 	Cle 	 QB 	$3 	Red Hochuli Peppers
8	Darren Sproles 	NO 	 RB 	$49 	Red Hochuli Peppers
146	Ben Tate 	Hou 	 RB 	$18 	Red Hochuli Peppers
265	Leon Washington 	Sea 	 RB 	$5 	Red Hochuli Peppers
108	Dexter McCluster 	KC 	 RB 	$3 	Red Hochuli Peppers
153	Joe McKnight 	NYJ 	 RB 	$3 	Red Hochuli Peppers
18	Jimmy Graham 	NO 	 TE 	$47 	Red Hochuli Peppers
48	Dez Bryant 	Dal 	 WR 	$32 	Red Hochuli Peppers
88	Danny Amendola 	StL 	 WR 	$10 	Red Hochuli Peppers
279	Dwayne Harris 	Dal 	 WR 	$1 	Red Hochuli Peppers
208	Joshua Cribbs 	Cle 	 WR 	$1 	Red Hochuli Peppers

230	Detroit 	Det 	 DEF 	$5 	Return of Ryan Leaf
231	Arizona 	Ari 	 DEF 	$1 	Return of Ryan Leaf
220	Stephen Gostkowski 	NE 	 K 	$4 	Return of Ryan Leaf
111	Jake Locker 	Ten 	 QB 	$5 	Return of Ryan Leaf
160	Mark Sanchez 	NYJ 	 QB 	$5 	Return of Ryan Leaf
6	Arian Foster 	Hou 	 RB 	$58 	Return of Ryan Leaf
3	Maurice Jones-Drew 	Jac 	 RB 	$42 	Return of Ryan Leaf
212	Daniel Thomas 	Mia 	 RB 	$4 	Return of Ryan Leaf
202	Dustin Keller 	NYJ 	 TE 	$8 	Return of Ryan Leaf
238	Ed Dickson 	Bal 	 TE 	$4 	Return of Ryan Leaf
33	Wes Welker 	NE 	 WR 	$38 	Return of Ryan Leaf
104	Jon Baldwin 	KC 	 WR 	$7 	Return of Ryan Leaf
215	Doug Baldwin 	Sea 	 WR 	$6 	Return of Ryan Leaf
169	Andre Roberts 	Ari 	 WR 	$2 	Return of Ryan Leaf
73	Lee Evans 	Jac 	 WR 	$2 	Return of Ryan Leaf

269	Jacksonville 	Jac 	 DEF 	$1 	Rough and Tumblrs
252	Dan Carpenter 	Mia 	 K 	$1 	Rough and Tumblrs
4	Drew Brees 	NO 	 QB 	$51 	Rough and Tumblrs
28	Tim Tebow 	NYJ 	 QB 	$2 	Rough and Tumblrs
10	Ray Rice 	Bal 	 RB 	$61 	Rough and Tumblrs
114	Pierre Thomas 	NO 	 RB 	$8 	Rough and Tumblrs
211	Mike Goodson 	Oak 	 RB 	$2 	Rough and Tumblrs
300	Knowshon Moreno 	Den 	 RB 	$1 	Rough and Tumblrs
100	Jacob Tamme 	Den 	 TE 	$12 	Rough and Tumblrs
292	Dwayne Allen 	Ind 	 TE 	$1 	Rough and Tumblrs
45	Steve Smith 	Car 	 WR 	$32 	Rough and Tumblrs
138	Denarius Moore 	Oak 	 WR 	$10 	Rough and Tumblrs
174	Laurent Robinson 	Jac 	 WR 	$10 	Rough and Tumblrs
161	Randy Moss 	SF 	 WR 	$7 	Rough and Tumblrs
298	Joshua Morgan 	Was 	 WR 	$1 	Rough and Tumblrs

278	Minnesota 	Min 	 DEF 	$1 	Scissor Me Timbers
247	Garrett Hartley 	NO 	 K 	$1 	Scissor Me Timbers
43	Matthew Stafford 	Det 	 QB 	$52 	Scissor Me Timbers
295	Brady Quinn 	KC 	 QB 	$1 	Scissor Me Timbers
32	Jamaal Charles 	KC 	 RB 	$36 	Scissor Me Timbers
141	Jacquizz Rodgers 	Atl 	 RB 	$14 	Scissor Me Timbers
235	Evan Royster 	Was 	 RB 	$3 	Scissor Me Timbers
197	Taiwan Jones 	Oak 	 RB 	$3 	Scissor Me Timbers
289	Delone Carter 	Ind 	 RB 	$2 	Scissor Me Timbers
22	Rob Gronkowski 	NE 	 TE 	$42 	Scissor Me Timbers
31	Antonio Brown 	Pit 	 WR 	$29 	Scissor Me Timbers
172	Davone Bess 	Mia 	 WR 	$10 	Scissor Me Timbers
276	Golden Tate 	Sea 	 WR 	$2 	Scissor Me Timbers
288	Brandon Stokley 	Den 	 WR 	$1 	Scissor Me Timbers
227	Leonard Hankerson 	Was 	 WR 	$1 	Scissor Me Timbers

259	San Diego 	SD 	 DEF 	$1 	The Fleas (Wilson)
221	Rob Bironas 	Ten 	 K 	$1 	The Fleas (Wilson)
72	Robert Griffin III 	Was 	 QB 	$15 	The Fleas (Wilson)
190	Christian Ponder 	Min 	 QB 	$7 	The Fleas (Wilson)
30	Matt Forte 	Chi 	 RB 	$51 	The Fleas (Wilson)
27	Adrian Peterson 	Min 	 RB 	$40 	The Fleas (Wilson)
262	Bernard Scott 	Cin 	 RB 	$2 	The Fleas (Wilson)
283	Montario Hardesty 	Cle 	 RB 	$2 	The Fleas (Wilson)
285	Chris Ivory 	NO 	 RB 	$1 	The Fleas (Wilson)
272	Heath Miller 	Pit 	 TE 	$2 	The Fleas (Wilson)
191	Martellus Bennett 	NYG 	 TE 	$2 	The Fleas (Wilson)
57	Jeremy Maclin 	Phi 	 WR 	$30 	The Fleas (Wilson)
90	Brandon Lloyd 	NE 	 WR 	$27 	The Fleas (Wilson)
81	Stevie Johnson 	Buf 	 WR 	$18 	The Fleas (Wilson)
274	Steve Breaston 	KC 	 WR 	$1 	The Fleas (Wilson)

23	Houston 	Hou 	 DEF 	$4 	Unrelated Siblings
237	Dallas 	Dal 	 DEF 	$3 	Unrelated Siblings
54	Dan Bailey 	Dal 	 K 	$3 	Unrelated Siblings
224	Matt Bryant 	Atl 	 K 	$2 	Unrelated Siblings
229	Robbie Gould 	Chi 	 K 	$2 	Unrelated Siblings
51	Philip Rivers 	SD 	 QB 	$33 	Unrelated Siblings
254	Matt Flynn 	Sea 	 QB 	$1 	Unrelated Siblings
89	DeAngelo Williams 	Car 	 RB 	$16 	Unrelated Siblings
128	Felix Jones 	Dal 	 RB 	$7 	Unrelated Siblings
122	Alex Green 	GB 	 RB 	$2 	Unrelated Siblings
164	Owen Daniels 	Hou 	 TE 	$7 	Unrelated Siblings
151	Jared Cook 	Ten 	 TE 	$4 	Unrelated Siblings
35	Victor Cruz 	NYG 	 WR 	$40 	Unrelated Siblings
12	Marques Colston 	NO 	 WR 	$36 	Unrelated Siblings
44	Miles Austin 	Dal 	 WR 	$30 	Unrelated Siblings

196	Baltimore 	Bal 	 DEF 	$7 	Up By Three
242	Alex Henery 	Phi 	 K 	$1 	Up By Three
145	Carson Palmer 	Oak 	 QB 	$9 	Up By Three
60	Andy Dalton 	Cin 	 QB 	$8 	Up By Three
7	Ryan Mathews 	SD 	 RB 	$45 	Up By Three
80	Beanie Wells 	Ari 	 RB 	$12 	Up By Three
175	LeGarrette Blount 	TB 	 RB 	$8 	Up By Three
177	Ronnie Hillman 	Den 	 RB 	$7 	Up By Three
162	Jonathan Dwyer 	Pit 	 RB 	$3 	Up By Three
204	Kyle Rudolph 	Min 	 TE 	$11 	Up By Three
24	Larry Fitzgerald 	Ari 	 WR 	$44 	Up By Three
75	Demaryius Thomas 	Den 	 WR 	$24 	Up By Three
101	Darrius Heyward-Bey 	Oak 	 WR 	$13 	Up By Three
181	Nate Burleson 	Det 	 WR 	$4 	Up By Three
222	Steve Smith 	StL 	 WR 	$4 	Up By Three

[dalej42]

Can we include FAAB money in trade deals?

[SenorBeef]

Yeah I don't see why not. I think we created that rule back with Court Jesters was trying to build up his team when he autodrafted via FAAB dollars, so I think it's still in effect.

[Really Not All That Bright]

Since everyone else is doing a self-review... I wasn't kidding when I said I wouldn't hate this team in a 14-team league. I've got shit for depth, but I am genuinely happy with every starter.

QB - Matt Schaub $19, Blaine Gabbert $3

Schaub is a top 10 fantasy quarterback with one knock: health. I was willing to spend big on Ryan Fitzpatrick given that, but not what he went for. So I took Gabbert, who... has a job, and might surprise me with a greatly upgraded receiving corps and a rusty ball-hogging tailback. I bet he won't, though. I was willing to go cheap at QB given that this format basically forces you to skimp at some positions.

RB - DeMarco Murray $42, Fred Jackson $34, Kevin Smith $17, Bilal Powell $3, Jahvid Best $2

Here's where the money went, and boy did I get some bang for my buck. All three of my primary backs could end up in the top 10, and two probably will. I would have preferred to have a better fourth option than Powell, but it would have cost me dearly.

WR - Andre Johnson $42, Robert Meachem $14, Devery Henderson $2, Vincent Brown $1

In a three-wide league, you've got to have star, and AJ is it. Having Schaub and him on the same team is a risk considering that both lose lots of value if the other gets hurt, and both are injury risks. Still, nothing ventured... Meachem looked like more and more of a steal as the draft wore on and other guys with similar value went for twice as much. Henderson will give me 500 yards and a couple of touchdowns at worst, and might finally break out without Meachem in town running the same routes. Brown will theoretically be back in Week 8, which means I'll be starting a waiver scrub in Weeks 6-7 when my WR byes begin.

TE - Dallas Clark $2, Kellen Winslow $2

Yeah, I totally goofed on Winslow. No matter. I got a steal on Clark. He's all but forgotten in fantasy, but he's playing with Josh Freeman, who sometimes appears to forget that players other than tight ends are eligible receivers. He ain't gonna score, but he'll rack up catches.

K - Nate Kaeding $2

He plays in constant 72-degree weather with a high-powered offense, and he's the most accurate kicker in history. The only thing that would make him better is a dome.

DEF - Pittsburgh $4

This was kind of an impulse bid in the early going that worked out brilliantly. They were the second-best fantasy defense last year and came at less than half the price of San Fran and nearly half the price of Baltimore.

[RetroVertigo]

As I said earlier I like my team, and I think barring injury could compete. My strategy is usually grab a stud RB, a few mid level players, and then look for players which provide depth at a value.

QB- Tony Romo $26, Sam Bradford $6
I know a lot of people hate Romo, but a Qb with a season stat line of +4,000yrd, 31 td's, and 10 int's is great for $26 with other similar Qb's going for a little more.

RB - LeSean McCoy $61, BenJarvus Green-Ellis $22, Kendall Hunter $6, Lamar Miller $2,
I grabbed McCoy as my "stud" this year for more then I was looking to spend for him personally. For that price I'd rather have Rice or Foster (which was a little cheaper), but they went earlier in the draft when I was still trying to figure this years market. Green-Ellis is decent at $22, I took a flyer on Reggie Bush not getting through 2 seasons in a row unscathed and drafted Miller.

WR - Vincent Jackson $26, Justin Blackmon $18, Nate Washington $13, James Jones $7, Brian Quick $2, Greg Salas $1
I don't like Jackson for $26, but I didn't have a WR yet and panicked. They were coming off the board for more then I had anticipated, but looking back there was still better value on the board such as Stevie Johnson for $18. Blackmon I think will end up being good at $18, I've watched a few of the Jag's preseason games and they look a lot better this year. Nate Washington could be a steal at $13 if Kenny Britt ends up murdering someone. I took a couple high ceiling picks with Jones and Salas (high ceiling because of who is tossing the ball around, not because of them personally).

TE - Lance Kendricks $2
I pretty much punted on the TE position. But Kendricks certainly has the talent to produce this year.

[SenorBeef]

Updated FAAB money to reflect unspent draft money.

[RetroVertigo]

I just want to mention how sneaky Cobra Kai's strategy of showing up halfway through the draft and buying everybody was, once peoples budgets had been spent.

[Really Not All That Bright]

I don't think he actually planned on that, did he? Anyway, his team isn't very good.

[RetroVertigo]

Originally Posted by Really Not All That Bright

I don't think he actually planned on that, did he? Anyway, his team isn't very good.

No, I don't think so. Just making a joke. I do think that considering he missed out on all the top players, the team he put together isn't bad.

[mhendo]

Garcon's Cedilla's $1 outlay for Kevin Ogletree is looking pretty damn good right now.

[Gray Ghost]

Originally Posted by mhendo

Garcon's Cedilla's $1 outlay for Kevin Ogletree is looking pretty damn good right now.

Yahoo shows his "Started" percentage as 0%, by the way. Guess who's facing his team this week...? <Grrrr>

I doubt Garcon's would have started him, had his $8 purchase of Jerome Simpson panned out. Oh well; everyone's got a bad beat story. I hope I'm just getting mine out of the way early in the season.

[Really Not All That Bright]

Jerome Simpson will pan out. He's suspended for a couple of games, but he should be productive after that.

[Really Not All That Bright]

Originally Posted by Really Not All That Bright

RB - DeMarco Murray $42, Fred Jackson $34, Kevin Smith $17, Bilal Powell $3, Jahvid Best $2

Here's where the money went, and boy did I get some bang for my buck. All three of my primary backs could end up in the top 10, and two probably will. I would have preferred to have a better fourth option than Powell, but it would have cost me dearly.

Well, there's $34 down the drain.

[SenorBeef]

Son of a bitch. I was tailgating from 6am and couldn't get on to check status. I almost started Morris with Stewart being questionable. If I had been around to check status I'd have 20 more points. I forgot that I honor conditional requests for just this situation. Damn.

[Wilson]

141.50 points with the San Diego D still to go. Fear the newbie!

[Munch]

Originally Posted by Wilson

141.50 points with the San Diego D still to go. Fear the newbie!

Nicely done - tons of value on your squad.

[Really Not All That Bright]

Blowing my wad on Kevin Smith at the end is starting to look like an almost prescient move now.

[Wilson]

Yeah, the week couldn't have turned out much better. I made the right call to put in Heath Miller at flex, and he scored. AP started and looked like his old self. Forte would have been even better if he hadn't had to share carries (and scores) with Michael Bush, but I can't complain about what he did.
In all, 7 of my 8 non-QB offensive players scored (all except Brandon Lloyd). And RGIII was damn good.

My bench sucks, but you can't have everything.

[enalzi]

Well, barring a massive performance from Ray Rice and Jacoby Jones and a massive loss by SD, I doubt I'll be winning this matchup. Still, the majority of my players outperformed, so I'm optimistic for the rest of the season. Unfortunately, I was cheering on Randy Moss all afternoon, not realizing I left him on my bench.

[enalzi]

Someone remind, when do players come off of waivers? Tuesday morning or Tuesday night?

[Munch]

Tuesday night/Wednesday morning, I believe.

Well, barring any major scoring adjustments, I squeaked by a win over Frosted Lightning this weekend. I'd have lost if it wasn't for that last drive by Stafford. I had quite a few underperformances (Ant. Brown's dropped TD, Charles not involved in any passing targets, Royster being on the Redskins, etc.). I'm going to have some serious flex/bye week issues. Should be a ride.

[Taber]

My condolences go out to the Rough and Tumblrs, who won this week's Pancake award, by coming in 4th in total points, and still losing to the team that came in first.

[enalzi]

Originally Posted by Taber

My condolences go out to the Rough and Tumblrs, who won this week's Pancake award, by coming in 4th in total points, and still losing to the team that came in first.

Yeah, not the best way to start, but it gives me a lot of hope for the rest of the season.

[Really Not All That Bright]

Originally Posted by Taber

My condolences go out to the Rough and Tumblrs, who won this week's Pancake award, by coming in 4th in total points, and still losing to the team that came in first.

No condolences for the team that lost a starting RB and a starting WR in the same week?

[enalzi]

I was worried about overbidding for Stephen Hill.
Guess I was wrong.

[Munch]

Yeah, no kidding. I realize FAAB bids are inflated in regular leagues, and even moreso in this league, but $100?!? Wow.

[Really Not All That Bright]

I accidentally dropped Robert Meachem instead of Devery Henderson. Beef, can you fix that?

[D_Odds]

Originally Posted by enalzi

I was worried about overbidding for Stephen Hill.
Guess I was wrong.

Even worse, I dropped him before the games on Sunday.

[SenorBeef]

Originally Posted by Really Not All That Bright

I accidentally dropped Robert Meachem instead of Devery Henderson. Beef, can you fix that?

Yes, although I can't put Henderson back on waivers, so in order for everyone to have a fair shot at him, I'm going to take waiver claims in PM for Henderson for the next 24 hours. If you want to pick him up on waivers, PM me a FAAB bid, highest bid gets him awarded.

If no one makes a bid, he becomes a free agent at 9:30 eastern on Sep 13.

[Really Not All That Bright]

Much obliged.

[SenorBeef]

I don't think I've ever seen a player/unit with a projected negative score. Has anyone? My Denver defense is projected to have -0.08 points against Atlanta.

[mhendo]

I'm not far ahead of you. The Arizona D is projected to score 0.32 against the Patriots.

But, no, i don't think i've ever seen a negative projection before.

[Really Not All That Bright]

Willie Parker was projected to score -0.1 points for me once. I think the projection formula thing was screwed up because he fumbled three times the previous week.

[Really Not All That Bright]

Argh! Yahoo player settings keep crashing my browser. Beef, can you put Donnie Avery in at WR for me?

[SenorBeef]

Over who? Or is there an empty slot?

[Really Not All That Bright]

There's an empty slot.

[mhendo]

Originally Posted by mhendo

I'm not far ahead of you. The Arizona D is projected to score 0.32 against the Patriots.

Well, the Arizona D ended up with a very surprising 11 points against New England, and an even more surprising win in the game.

Did anyone watch the game? What's going on with Brady and the Pats' offense?

[SenorBeef]

Fixed.

[Really Not All That Bright]

Originally Posted by mhendo

Well, the Arizona D ended up with a very surprising 11 points against New England, and an even more surprising win in the game.

Did anyone watch the game? What's going on with Brady and the Pats' offense?

Saw the highlights on NFL.com. Bad, bad o-line play.

Thanks, Beef!

[SenorBeef]

I have to make up 10 points with Julio Jones and the Denver D. And I think Julio Jones can do it. Which makes me wonder - should I just bench the Denver D and go with an empty slot? I'd feel kinda stupid if Denver made a decent showing and scored a defensive TD or something, but it's very possible Jones puts up 13 and Denver puts up -6 or something and I lose.

[Really Not All That Bright]

Between the Texans squashing their opponents and Fred Jackson, my season is already over. Sad face.