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Old 09-18-2012, 09:47 AM
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Absolute zero and beyond

So if movement virtually stops at absolute zero, when does it really stop?
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:28 PM
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By definition, when molecules actually stop moving is absolute zero. However, it is difficult to get to absolute zero because quantum effects keep things destabilized.
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:36 PM
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So if movement virtually stops at absolute zero, when does it really stop?
It can't. Quantum mechanics and the uncertainty principle. If something wasn't moving at all it's uncertainty of momentum is zero which means it's uncertainty of position is infinite. It's like everywhere, man!

Throw in the effects of particles popping into and out of existence due to the unavoidable quantum vacuum state, etc., and nothing can ever really be stopped.

Zero-point energy can be such a bother. It even prevents Helium from freezing (at normal pressure).

So absolute zero is best defined based on Thermodynamic principles such as minimum entropy. Thermo only applies to the statistical properties of lots of particles. It doesn't describe the behavior of a single particle.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:07 PM
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It's when it is so cold, your nuts fall off.
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