Jackson on the $20

panache45 · #1 11-01-2012, 03:55 AM

Andrew Jackson has been on the U.S. $20 bill for over 80 years. Among other things, he supported slavery and "ethnic cleansing" of Native Americans. I don't know what he did in his presidency that has any relevance today. Why is he on our money, and who should be on it instead?

blue infinity · #2 11-01-2012, 04:22 AM

He's on your money because he was the most badass president ever.

As to who should be on it instead? The truly American thing to do would be to privatize it, auction it off to the highest bidder.

Whoever ponies up the most cash, gets their mug on it. Bill Gates, Sam Walton, the Koch Brothers, Ronald McDonald..

echo7tango · #3 11-01-2012, 04:25 AM

Donald Trump

Hello Again · #4 11-01-2012, 04:40 AM

I've long thought Jackson & Jefferson should go swapsies.

Jackson is deserving of a bill, but not such a commonly circulated one. I also think the reverse image on the $2 (signing of the declaration of independence) is far more worthy for a high circulation bill than the reverse image on the $20 (the White house? Who cares?).

Rodgers01 · #5 11-01-2012, 04:40 AM

If anyone else needs a reminder of who's already on the currency, list here.

If Jackson were to go, the first replacement I can think of who's not already honored is John Adams.

Maybe also promote FDR from the dime to the $20.

Manda JO · #6 11-01-2012, 05:25 AM

Jackson's number one thing was dismantling the Second Bank of the United States. He would be appalled at the Fed, and certainly wouldn't want anything to do with a national currency. Hell, he was against currency in general, preferring specie.

I've always kind of thought that putting him on the $20 was a nice "fuck you" to America's most psychotic president.

Dangerosa · #7 11-01-2012, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Manda JO

Jackson's number one thing was dismantling the Second Bank of the United States. He would be appalled at the Fed, and certainly wouldn't want anything to do with a national currency. Hell, he was against currency in general, preferring specie.

I've always kind of thought that putting him on the $20 was a nice "fuck you" to America's most psychotic president.

I sometimes think that the government at times has had a wonderful sense of humor for a large entity. Arlington Cemetery is another "fuck you."

kayaker · #8 11-01-2012, 06:46 AM

Man had a fine head of hair, whatever his faults may have been.

Ludovic · #9 11-01-2012, 07:58 AM

But it still pales in comparison to Jermaine.

Leaffan · #10 11-01-2012, 08:11 AM

Well, God's on there too. His track record isn't very impressive either.

Malthus · #11 11-01-2012, 08:13 AM

Keep him on the $20, but change the pic into one of him doing something charactaristic, like killing someone.

phouka · #12 11-01-2012, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by blue infinity

He's on your money because he was the most badass president ever.

Bzzzt! I'm sorry, blue infinity, the correct answer was "Theodore Roosevelt". Who was the most badass president ever? Theodore Roosevelt. You have lost teh Intarwebz.

Saraya · #13 11-01-2012, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by panache45

Andrew Jackson has been on the U.S. $20 bill for over 80 years. Among other things, he supported slavery and "ethnic cleansing" of Native Americans. I don't know what he did in his presidency that has any relevance today. Why is he on our money, and who should be on it instead?

Martin Luther King was a plagerist, adulterer, womanizer(physically as well), liar, NOT a reverend, communist sympathizer and a whole host of over things.

Should we take his birthday celebration away, or do we still praise him cause his message was good?

In a proper America, he'd be shunned for his false nature. Civil rights doesn't need black 'leaders.'
And we could get our President's birthdays back.

The money should never change, it give us a sense of continuity that is sorely lacking in the States.

To answer your question, who should be next, John Adams or Ron Paul.

Leaffan · #14 11-01-2012, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Saraya

Martin Luther King was a plagerist, adulterer, womanizer(physically as well), liar, NOT a reverend, communist sympathizer and a whole host of over things.

Should we take his birthday celebration away, or do we still praise him cause his message was good?

In a proper America, he'd be shunned for his false nature. Civil rights doesn't need black 'leaders.'
And we could get our President's birthdays back.

The money should never change, it give us a sense of continuity that is sorely lacking in the States.

To answer your question, who should be next, John Adams or Ron Paul.

This will go over well.

silenus · #15 11-01-2012, 08:51 AM

In 20 years or so, we can put Bill Clinton on the $20. That way everybody will remember the punchline to the joke.

Leaf, our friend Saraya is more familiar with the under than the over.

randomface · #16 11-01-2012, 08:56 AM

Putting Ron Paul on Federal Reserve notes would probably cause quite a few of the "End the Fed" types to explode.

Leaffan · #17 11-01-2012, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by silenus

Leaf, our friend Saraya is more familiar with the under than the over.

I don't know what this means. Sorry.

Procrustus · #18 11-01-2012, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Saraya

The money should never change, it give us a sense of continuity that is sorely lacking in the States.

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Never change? If that were true we would never get to honor President Obama this way.

Marley23 · #19 11-01-2012, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Saraya

The money should never change, it give us a sense of continuity that is sorely lacking in the States.

It's a little late for that. I will also go out on a limb and say that adultery and plagiarism, while bad, are much less bad than ethnic cleansing, and that if your belief is that the civil rights requirement could have worked without leadership from black people (as a gift from nice white people, I guess), that's more than a little misguided.

drastic_quench · #20 11-01-2012, 11:41 AM

The U.S. currency is far too human-centric. I would like a famous horse, or perhaps an auspicious-looking beaver, on a commonly circulated denomination.

Really Not All That Bright · #21 11-01-2012, 11:51 AM

Washington and Jefferson also supported slavery. We've kind of decided to ignore that sort of thing.

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Originally Posted by Saraya

Martin Luther King was... ...NOT a reverend...

Uh, what?

stuyguy · #22 11-01-2012, 11:56 AM

I just checked out the list of people on our money that Rodgers01 linked.

I have no problem with recent non-politician choices on our currency, like Sacagawea and Susan B. Anthony (both on dollar coins). Furthermore, since I am in a generous mood, I will give passes to two head-scratch-inducing choices: Salmon P. Chase ($10,000 bill), who as the Secty of the Treasury was intimately involved with US money matters, and President William McKinley ($500 bill), who was "martyred" in office.

But Grover Cleveland? Really? What the hell made him worthy to be on our $1,000 bill?

(Oh, and for the purposes of the OP, yes, I think Andrew Jackson should be booted from the $20 bill. Historians claim he redefined the office of presidency, but I think his flaws (including the big political ones, not just his personal failings and orneriness) far outweigh his good points.

Procrustus · #23 11-01-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by drastic_quench

The U.S. currency is far too human-centric. I would like a famous horse, or perhaps an auspicious-looking beaver, on a commonly circulated denomination.

Beaver bills sound great for tipping strippers.

Drunky Smurf · #24 11-01-2012, 12:12 PM

Agreed. I vote hairy va-jay-jays on all currrency.

Leaffan · #25 11-01-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Drunky Smurf

Agreed. I vote hairy va-jay-jays on all currrency.

Puts a whole new meaning behind "I just came into some money."

Simplicio · #26 11-01-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Malthus

Keep him on the $20, but change the pic into one of him doing something charactaristic, like killing someone.

I'd support changing it to an image of Jackson kicking John C. Calhoun in the balls.

drastic_quench · #27 11-01-2012, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Drunky Smurf

Agreed. I vote hairy va-jay-jays on all currrency.

"More honest than Abe."

zoid · #28 11-01-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Leaffan

Puts a whole new meaning behind "I just came into some money."

For the win!

zoid · #29 11-01-2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Saraya

Martin Luther King was a plagerist, adulterer, womanizer(physically as well), liar, NOT a reverend, communist sympathizer and a whole host of over things.

Should we take his birthday celebration away, or do we still praise him cause his message was good?

In a proper America, he'd be shunned for his false nature. Civil rights doesn't need black 'leaders.'
And we could get our President's birthdays back.

The money should never change, it give us a sense of continuity that is sorely lacking in the States.

To answer your question, who should be next, John Adams or Ron Paul.

Wow.

Just...

Wow.

John Mace · #30 11-01-2012, 12:40 PM

Ron Paul? One thing you gotta say about our currency-- we don't put anyone on it while they are still living. What are we, North Korea?

Simplicio · #31 11-01-2012, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by John Mace

Ron Paul? One thing you gotta say about our currency-- we don't put anyone on it while they are still living. What are we, North Korea?

I'd be OK with shooting him first.

Sunspace · #32 11-01-2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by drastic_quench

The U.S. currency is far too human-centric. I would like a famous horse, or perhaps an auspicious-looking beaver, on a commonly circulated denomination.

Well, heck, if you're going to put beavers on the money, you might as well include loons, polar bears, and caribou. Happily, there's a country right next door which has been testing that.

Drunky Smurf · #33 11-01-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Leaffan

Puts a whole new meaning behind "I just came into some money."

I've always wanted to come into some money.

Someday Drunky. Someday.

drastic_quench · #34 11-01-2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunspace

Well, heck, if you're going to put beavers on the money, you might as well include loons, polar bears, and caribou. Happily, there's a country right next door which has been testing that.

Yet they look nowhere near auspicious enough. That damned loon is just floating there! It could at least have its beak skyward.

Marley23 · #35 11-01-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunspace

Well, heck, if you're going to put beavers on the money, you might as well include loons

Is that another vote for Ron Paul?

Happy Lendervedder · #36 11-01-2012, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodgers01

If anyone else needs a reminder of who's already on the currency, list here.

If Jackson were to go, the first replacement I can think of who's not already honored is John Adams.

Maybe also promote FDR from the dime to the $20.

FDR's on the dime because he helped found the March of Dimes (to help eradicate childhood polio). I think when he'll be on the dime for a while.

I say put Teddy Roosevelt on the 20. First president of the 20th century, put him on the 20 dollar bill.

Fretful Porpentine · #37 11-01-2012, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by drastic_quench

The U.S. currency is far too human-centric. I would like a famous horse, or perhaps an auspicious-looking beaver, on a commonly circulated denomination.

How about a badass president AND a moose? Win-win.

Scumpup · #38 11-01-2012, 01:58 PM

JFK should be on the $20 bill. Put Jackson on the 50 cent piece if they even still make them any more.

Really Not All That Bright · #39 11-01-2012, 02:39 PM

Which of JFK's great achievements are we putting him on the $20 for? Jayne Mansfield? Marilyn? Being shot?

Malthus · #40 11-01-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Really Not All That Bright

Which of JFK's great achievements are we putting him on the $20 for? Jayne Mansfield? Marilyn? Being shot?

Why not a compromise - put a pic of JFK screwing a starlet on one side, and Jackson killing some poor sap on the other.

StGermain · #41 11-01-2012, 03:00 PM

Maybe they should put Michael Jackson on the $20. King of Pop, after all.

StG

Scumpup · #42 11-01-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Really Not All That Bright

Which of JFK's great achievements are we putting him on the $20 for? Jayne Mansfield? Marilyn? Being shot?

I"ll happily put him on there for having apparently pissed in your Cheerios.

panache45 · #43 11-01-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by StGermain

Maybe they should put Michael Jackson on the $20. King of Pop, after all.

StG

And on the back, all the kids he abused.

hogarth · #44 11-01-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stuyguy

But Grover Cleveland? Really? What the hell made him worthy to be on our $1,000 bill?

I can think of two non-consecutive reasons.

Dangerosa · #45 11-01-2012, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplicio

I'd be OK with shooting him first.

That might be a worthwhile trade......

For You · #46 11-01-2012, 06:34 PM

Steve Jobs? I mean, people do need jobs.

tomcar · #47 11-01-2012, 07:04 PM

I say MLK should be on the 20. He certainly was no more flawed than the forefathers and a central figure in US history.
Or put Lincoln on there and get rid of the penny altogether.

Chessic Sense · #48 11-01-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by phouka

Bzzzt! I'm sorry, blue infinity, the correct answer was "Theodore Roosevelt". Who was the most badass president ever? Theodore Roosevelt. You have lost teh Intarwebz.

Yeah...no.