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Old 11-10-2004, 07:02 AM
Dung Beetle Dung Beetle is offline
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And norinew, if you write that book, I'll be happy to proofread it for you. Oh hell, I'll even buy a copy.
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Old 11-10-2004, 07:11 AM
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And norinew, if you write that book, I'll be happy to proofread it for you. Oh hell, I'll even buy a copy.
Great! I've already got my first copy sold and it isn't even written yet (now if I get banned for spamming, I'm gonna be pissed ).
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Old 11-10-2004, 04:27 PM
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I don't have the energy to Pit you for this.

Some people like stripping. I have a friend who became a stripper because she thought it would be exciting and fun. She found it exciting and fun, and also surprisingly lucrative. Nothing went terribly wrong with her life.

--p
How's her relationship with her dad?

I don't know. Maybe it is fun and exciting. I don't think there's anything wrong with strippers as people. I just can't imagine that anyone would want to dance naked and give lap dances to a bunch of horney drunk townies, frat guys, and businessmen by choice.





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Agreed. I just saw a girl on an HBO special who was a stripper AND also had a MBA in psychology.

Yeah, last week one of the girls at Flashdancers in Times Square was giving me advice on diversifying my portfolio. Actually there's no such thing as an "MBA in psychology". An MBA is a business degree. A Psychology degree would be a Master of Arts or something. Either you mis-heard her or she is making it up.

(also, there's no MBA program that accepts tuition payments in $1 increments )





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FWIW, I knew some women that stripped at Deja Vu in Springfield, IL. It was not uncommon for these women to make over $1500 a night on a weekend night, doing nothing more than stripping and lap-dancing. Certainly nothing unseemly.

So yes, strippers can and do make six figures. Easily in many cases.
See what a lot of them do is mentally extrapolate the gross from their best night over their entire year of working.

Figure a weekend evening shift with about 5 peak hours (say 9pm to 2am) . Those are the hours where it's the most crowded, although their shift might be longer.

Lap dance is typically $30 and lasts one song - $3 minutes lets say. Unless guys buy multiple dances they also need to spend time working the floor. Their floor show brings in, I would ballpark, about $20 (lets say $50 to be conservative) of singles and small bills and lasts $5-10 minutes. Lets also say they rotate on the stage about once an hour.

So lets say that %80 of their earning is during the peak hours. That means to hit $1500, they would need to make $240 an hour for 5 hours + whatever they scrape up during their off-peak hours. After getting $50 for the stage show, they would need to do about 7 lap dances an hour to hit that target. Not impossible, but it seems like a pretty tough pace to keep up, especially with so many factors out of your control.

So it's not impossible, but I still say it's pretty tough to make six figures as a stripper unless they are at a place where the clientelle are dropping a lot more money.

Anyhow, it would make an interesting case interview question.
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Old 11-10-2004, 05:19 PM
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How's her relationship with her dad?
Just fine, so far as I know. Are you really implying that anybody who wants to be a stripper must be psychologically damaged?

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I don't know. Maybe it is fun and exciting. I don't think there's anything wrong with strippers as people. I just can't imagine that anyone would want to dance naked and give lap dances to a bunch of horney drunk townies, frat guys, and businessmen by choice.
This is exactly how I feel about the military (to pick an arbitrary example). However, I don't extrapolate from "I can't imagine wanting to go into the military" to "anybody who wants to go into the military clearly has had something go drastically wrong with their life," because it's an absurd position on the face of it, and because I'm willing to accept that other people may feel differently than I about the things they will have to deal with and the things they will have to do in the military.

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Old 11-10-2004, 08:04 PM
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Just fine, so far as I know. Are you really implying that anybody who wants to be a stripper must be psychologically damaged?
Just trying to figure out what drives someone to be a stripper.
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Old 11-10-2004, 10:29 PM
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Later today, I'll see what I can cook up. What forum do those ["Ask the...] threads belong in?
MPSIMS (although if you're writing a book about your experiences, the thread could conceivably be kicked over to Cafe Society).
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Old 11-11-2004, 12:01 AM
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My sister did work as a stripper and I'm ashamed to say that my family was not really very supportive at all. I'm especially ashamed that I wasn't more supportive at first. I wasn't mean about it but I wasn't very enthusiastic either. I later had a girlfriend who paid for some of her college expenses by stripping, which was an edifying experience. After I'd gained some maturity I realized how unsupportive I had actually been when I'd thought that I was being okay about it.

My sister actually liked being a stripper. She liked the idea of of being able to lead men around by their dumbsticks and she's always loved being the center of attention, especially male attention. I do wish she hadn't gotten implants, but then she'd always been dissatisfied with her breasts.

I especially wish she hadn't said, "I got new boobs! Wanna see?" and then given me an eyefull when I went to visit her sometime after her recovery. Wow, I guess a good surgeon doesn't leave very visible scars.

She also worked as an escort for a while. Yes, that kind of escort. She quit because of the potential for problems, not because she especially disliked it. She was quite proud of the fact that she was a call girl and not just a "hoochie."

I did talk to her about the escort work a bit because I'd grown up a bit, but I didn't want any details that would screw with my head. The last thing you want to picture while having hot wild nasty sex is your sister in a leather teddy.

Okay, that's the last thing I want to picture. Maybe you've got a kink for that.

She did well for herself. She's got two huge houses in nice neighborhoods, a Dodge Viper that she's very proud of, a new Mercedes, and loads of nice clothes and jewelry. She's always wanted material things, and she found a way to get them. She was never intellectual but was always willing to work hard for what she wanted. This was the way she chose to work for it. Instead of being ashamed of it, I'm more in the "good for her" camp now.
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Old 11-11-2004, 12:51 AM
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I'd feel sorrow and shame. More so if she was not the strictly "no mileage" type and made money by rubbing up against crotches, letting guys cop feels, etc.

As a guy that has been to many a titty bar and a few houses of prostitution. It's not something that I'm particularly proud of either. And I wouldn't expect close relatives to have positive feelings about my actions either.
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Old 11-11-2004, 07:14 AM
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MPSIMS (although if you're writing a book about your experiences, the thread could conceivably be kicked over to Cafe Society).
Well, although I've often talked about writing a book about it, I've never made any real moves in that direction, and probably never will. A thread about it is probably the closest I'll ever get. I think I'll go start one.
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Old 11-11-2004, 07:50 AM
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My sister is # 2 prostitute in all of Kazakhstan. I am very proud.



HIGH FIVE!!!!
Page 3 before anyone posts to congratulate Mouthbreather??





That was GOLD!
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Old 11-11-2004, 09:03 AM
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Just trying to figure out what drives someone to be a stripper.

Well, here are a few reasons:

Money--paying for college, or just living a nice lifestyle
Finds excitement in the "forbidden" world of dancing
Exhibitionist
Enjoys attention
Enjoys dancing to music
Enjoys talking to people
Enjoys her body and her own sexuality
Likes to let go of her animal once in a while

And the negatives:

Few options
Not too bright
Abusive relationship
Drug addict
Bad family situation
etc.

There are certainly pro's and con's, but don't ever assume that someone is damaged just because they choose to dance.
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Old 11-11-2004, 12:44 PM
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I'd have no problemm with a sister who strips. And if she was good at it, I suppose I would be proud (not that I'd be evaluating her first hand).
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