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Old 02-03-2003, 07:48 PM
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"24" Season 2, Episode 11 - 6:00 p.m. - 7:00 p.m. (SPOILERS)

24, Season 2
Episode 11
6:00 p.m. - 7:00 p.m.

Do you feel like you've waited long enough?

Spoilers ahead!

Previous episodes discussed: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10


This thread is presented as a service of the 24 Club. And why not?
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Old 02-03-2003, 08:58 PM
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So Knead, what do you think about the retardospawn subplot about excessive cotton friction against non-supported mammary glands?

Hello? Knead?


The next person to kill this joke will have the humor police knocking at their door 10 minutes after they post that Knead is not reading this thread!
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Old 02-03-2003, 10:01 PM
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I'm in the throes of serious 24 Withdrawal... I am so ready for a new episode tomorrow night!!

To BiblioCat, wherever you are: You were right -- it looks like the replays on FX are on the nights right before new episodes. The week 10 replay is starting on FX right now (and I think the one tomorrow -- Tues -- at 5 PM is the same replay).
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Old 02-03-2003, 11:06 PM
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In addition to Season One on VHS that I got on eBay, I also asked the store manager at work to get me another nametag, soley so I can re-create Jack Bauer's CTU ID badge. I'd get a shirt, but all the ones I've seen suck. Especially this one.

Man, it's nice to see a new 24 thread. Thanks, Knead.
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Old 02-04-2003, 12:16 AM
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It's about freaking time. Although I did get to watch the entire first season during this break (break? It took me less than a week, and this was rental, not buying).

And FARK you, Fox, for putting the spoiler commercial for Tuesday's episode on during Malcolm in the Middle! I think I tuned out most of it, but damn.

Anyways, I'm excited. Power up the smarm-o-meters everyone, Jack Bauer and Kate Warner are going terrorist hunting!
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Old 02-04-2003, 01:12 AM
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Upon watching the 5:00-6:00 rerun:

While taken hostage, Jack spots the Guy With Gun #1 way out to the side, coaxes Nina far enough out for GWG #1 to get a shot at her, and after that shot's taken, GWG #2, #3, and #4 appear and take her into custody. That whole thing takes about 15 seconds, in more-or-less real time. What the hell were GWG 2, 3, and 4 doing that whole standoff? It couldn't be generous TV timing, since they needed to subdue her immediately after the sniper (GWG1) shot.
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Old 02-04-2003, 06:26 PM
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::copied from my "24" thread, which I've asked to be closed::

Kim had survived the car crash, and was running away.
I doubt the cop and Miguel will survive.
Where will Kim go? Does she have a cell phone? I don't think so.
Will the cops go after her? They know she was being transported back to Los Angeles.

Jack and Kate were (hypothetically) riding off into the sunset together, looking for Sayed Ali, since she is the only one who can ID Sayed Ali. Jack thinks Sayed is at a mosque, since it's "prayer time."
If you watch the previews, you know what happens.

Tony and Michelle were making Googly-Eyes at each other. Will they go off to a storage room for some "alone time"?

What about Mason? How much longer will he survive? Shouldn't he start to get really sick soon? Will he go to the hospital, you think, or will he prefer to die at CTU, on the job till the very end?

President Palmer is trusting his Benedict Arnold ex-wife a little too much. Or is he? Will he figure out Sherry is behind some of the crap going on in his own administration?

Marie had shot Reza, and at least two other CTU agents. Is Reza dead? I'm guessing he is. Is she in with Sayed Ali? Is she the one behind the money transfers? Is her father really a bad guy, or will he be revealed to be a good guy?

Will CTU figure out she killed their agents and Reza when they don't come back to CTU?

What about the guy with the bomb in the truck? Is he driving around aimlessly, or did he know where to deliver the bomb?

The bomb was supposed to go off at 7:00. Will it go off at the end of tonight's episode?
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Old 02-04-2003, 06:45 PM
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I think Mason will stay til the end. I couldn't see him dragging himself to the hospital when there are lives to be saved.

When did they say the bomb was going off at 7 PM? I missed that.
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Old 02-04-2003, 07:03 PM
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I don't remember anything about a specific time either (the 7 PM bit). Just Nina giving Sayed Ali's name, and an address.

I wonder if there will be some sister vs. sister fight by the end of this, where Kate has to protect herself from and/or fight Marie -- and possibly kill her (or Jack jump in and have to kill Marie to save Kate).
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Old 02-04-2003, 07:09 PM
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I sure hope blonde with Jack isn't one of those put-your-hands-over-your-face type screamer. How come all the cool-headed smart women are bad guys?

It would be nice if she were at least a competent foil for Jack.
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Old 02-04-2003, 07:09 PM
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I think George will go kamikaze, doing something outrageous, therefore sacraficing his life for the sake of his country. He'll probably make it to the end of the day, since the doctor said I believe "You don't have long- maybe a week, maybe a few days, maybe a day".

I don't watch the previews (since it ruins the excitement for next week and keeps me wondering about the show during the week). I guess I'll find out what happens in about 53 minutes. Is the other sister (the blonde who isn't a terrorist) also a terrorist? Do we find that out today? GAAAHH!!!
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Old 02-04-2003, 07:12 PM
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I don't watch the previews (since it ruins the excitement for next week and keeps me wondering about the show during the week). I guess I'll find out what happens in about 53 minutes. Is the other sister (the blonde who isn't a terrorist) also a terrorist? Do we find that out today? GAAAHH!!!
This sister is paired with Jack now. They are going to find El Cid (sorry, I really have a hard time with the names) who went to pray.

I think your right about George.
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Old 02-04-2003, 08:08 PM
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Ooh, finally! I can't believe they pre-empted one of the best shows on TV for two weeks to hype American Idol.

Anyway, did anyone catch what Jack whispered into Nina's ear as the Guys With Guns were taking her away? I played the scene back a couple of times and couldn't catch it. Hopefully it means that Nina's going to be in more future episodes. Now that they're on Sayed Ali's tail, her usefulness is pretty much gone. I'd like to see her back, though, if just to see Jack kill her.

Also, on the subject of Kate Warner (the sister that's with Jack now, the non-terrorist one); I've read in other threads that...
SPOILER:
... she's slated to be Jack's love interest. I really hope this angle doesn't get overplayed. We're talking about one 24 hour period. Having Jack and Kate start a love affair amidst the threat of nuclear annihilation all withing the span of a couple hours would really be a cheeseball TV move, I think. Maybe as a last scene they can kiss or something, sort of a counter-point to last season's final scene of Jack holding his dying wife. That I could deal with, just please nothing cheesy.
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Old 02-04-2003, 08:13 PM
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Well damn! Just a few minutes in, and so much for any speculation about Marie just being a dupe for Sayed Ali -- using her and all that. The bitch knows and is in on the whole plan!
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Old 02-04-2003, 08:37 PM
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A mountain lion? Maybe next she could be abducted by space aliens.
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Old 02-04-2003, 09:01 PM
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I like those big balls Palmer grew!

Another bad-ass bitch. At least now they sisters are easy to tell apart.
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Old 02-04-2003, 09:05 PM
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I swear to Og -- when the clock ticked 6:35 and the scene jumped to Kim wandering in the woods, I laughed and immediately said out loud, "Maybe she'll get eaten by a bear."

30 seconds later, she sees the bobcat...

Oh well, I was hoping for my mime theory to come true, but as long as it's something else outlandish. Next season, they should get have her just wear a T-shirt that reads, "Nice Tits. Terrible Luck."

I knew that the burning man wasn't going to be Sayed Ali. I didn't know if Jack would figure it out right away or next episode, though.

Oh, and so much for the hopes that some of you ladies held for Reza still being alive...

And based on the scenes for next week...
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Looks like Kate will find out about Marie being the shooter much sooner than I had thought.
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Old 02-04-2003, 09:12 PM
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Oh, and I suppose I should go ahead and revise my prediction for the Kim subplot...

Next week, she will be rescued at the last second by the woodsman who set the trap (that she is caught in). This will be a guy that we will immediately nickname Grizzly Adams. He hasn't seen a woman... "uh, 'specially one this purty"... for quite a long time. He will take her back to his shack in the woods (which doesn't have phone or electricity) and teach her the true meaning of Christmas (if you know what I mean *wink wink nudge nudge say no more*).
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Old 02-04-2003, 09:12 PM
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Wow! Looks like Marie has been reading this thread.

Boy, how about that riveting Kim subplot? Even all the running couldn't help this week (bad camera angles.) Look out! Big non-threatening kitty cat! Will cougars even attempt to attack something larger than they are? I don't know, just asking.

Finally, Palmer gives me a reason to vote for him again next election. Just hope that Amnesty International doesn't get hold of that footage. Is it really wise to broadcast the torture to your office? What with everything in the world being recorded one way or another I'm pretty sure I'd want that camera OFF!

Screw you, Sherri! Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!! (I hate her!)

Was it just me, I coulda sworn I saw Sayed walk out the door and go to the right of the screen when Kate was trying to ID the guy hidden by the other two men. I guess it wasn't him because someone had to fire the cosmic rays at the dupe and create the Human Torch.

Also, CTU looks like it's in even better shape than it was last hour. Those were some crapy bombs those guys used. Guess they WERE wound too tightly.

Ok, by this time, the wedding should have taken place and be done with. Assuming most weddings take place around six, which is usually the case that I've noticed. Besides, it's now dark and I figure the outdoor wedding would want some natural light. Anyway, do you think all the guests showed up and are still waiting?
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Old 02-04-2003, 09:16 PM
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Wow. An episode where Kim does almost nothing but run! Cool!

Too bad though. Once she chews her leg off to get out of that trap, the running will be over.
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Old 02-04-2003, 09:26 PM
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Max Carnage, where I'm living people would rather run into a bear than a mountain lion because a bear can be scared away, but a cougar will attack without warning.

I have no real life experience, but this is what I've been told by the locals.
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Old 02-04-2003, 09:30 PM
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Max Carnage, where I'm living people would rather run into a bear than a mountain lion because a bear can be scared away, but a cougar will attack without warning.
Wow, your bears are a bunch of pussies!
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Old 02-04-2003, 09:36 PM
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He will take her back to his shack in the woods (which doesn't have phone or electricity) and teach her the true meaning of Christmas (if you know what I mean *wink wink nudge nudge say no more*).
Okay, that's enough outta you, you sicko.


I totally called that Burning Man wasn't Sayed Ali. He's waiting for Marie (the Sleazy Ho) to come with the trigger, so he wouldn't have killed himself yet.

I think Jack will continue to be suspicious of Kate for awhile yet. I do agree with Monstre that maybe Kate will kill Marie at some point.

I'm sick of Kim. I was cheering for the mountain lion tonight.
Poor kitty's hungry!
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Old 02-04-2003, 09:37 PM
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A mountain lion? Maybe next she could be abducted by space aliens.
Geez, what is with this girl? I keep waiting for a blond guy with an ascot, a hippie, a sexually ambigous brunette, and a talking dog to show up.

"Jinkies! A mountain lion!"
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Old 02-04-2003, 09:42 PM
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I'm liking that ex-Green Beret Secret Service dude ... looks like he knows his stuff!
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Old 02-04-2003, 09:46 PM
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Was it just me, I coulda sworn I saw Sayed walk out the door and go to the right of the screen when Kate was trying to ID the guy hidden by the other two men.
I thought that he might end up being the one who walked off to the left, one of the last people out -- (disguised as the woman).

But you're right -- he was probably inside to light the bonfire...
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Old 02-04-2003, 09:48 PM
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Okay, that's enough outta you, you sicko.
Why are people always saying that to me...?

*batting Monstre eyelashes innocently*
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Old 02-05-2003, 12:19 AM
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Methinks they should have skipped the Kim subplot this week. Oh wait, they did. And dammit, how am I to marry a woman who has such a crappy character.

Marie: You fuc[pit language]tch! The guy whose locker she got into (Mario?)- is he in on it? Who is he? How would he have a nuke trigger and not know it? We know the locker is in use. (Wait- he didn't go to work- was he killed and his locker taken over?)

Note to self: do not piss off Dennis Haysbert. Turns into one scary mofo.

I doubt Sayed Ali left in the crowd. It doesn't seem like 24's style. I don't think it'd make for a good re-appearance.

I was a little nervous when Palmer was driving around, I wouldn't think he'd be safe anywhere but the comfort of his office, surrounded by at least some people still on his side.

Ex-Green Beret is badass. "What do you know about the bomb, Mr. Stanton?" [zap]
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Old 02-05-2003, 12:29 AM
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Marie: You fuc[pit language]tch! The guy whose locker she got into (Mario?)- is he in on it? Who is he? How would he have a nuke trigger and not know it? We know the locker is in use. (Wait- he didn't go to work- was he killed and his locker taken over?)
From what Sayed Ali said to the phone on her, it was something referring to the guys in the truck. He mentioned about two being dead (I guess the two that shot each other), and they were supposed to deliver the trigger? I was assuming that this guy was the third lackey. Of course, we had all been assuming that the nuke was in the truck, but perhaps not.

That cell phone conversation was kind of quick, and I may have missed a detail or two. I thought the delivery guys with the truck already HAD whatever they were delivering on the truck with them. Not completely sure whether that was related to the locker guy.
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Old 02-05-2003, 12:33 AM
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I doubt Sayed Ali left in the crowd. It doesn't seem like 24's style. I don't think it'd make for a good re-appearance.
Don't you guys watch the teasers for next week?

SPOILER:

Sayed Ali will be captured alive (and it looked to be in the mosque) by CTU, Kate will identify him. Jack will threaten the execution of Ali's family if he doesn't talk. To help convince hm, images from the Ali homestead are apparently beamed in via satellite.
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Old 02-05-2003, 12:57 AM
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Just how does the CTU get the blueprints of EVERY building in Greater Los Angeles?

I would think the City of LA would be hard pressed to find the blueprints of any building that it had to issue a permit for.
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Old 02-05-2003, 12:59 AM
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Don't you guys watch the teasers for next week?
Hell no. Thanks for the spoiler tag.
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Old 02-05-2003, 06:35 AM
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Ooh, look Kim! It's a cougar! (With the little "grr" bit at the end!) Here, kitty kitty kitty!

You just know the kitty's gonna pounce on her, she'll be knocked down and roll down a hillside, hit her head....

And develop amnesia. It probably runs in the family.

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Marie: You fuc[pit language]tch! The guy whose locker she got into (Mario?)- is he in on it? Who is he? How would he have a nuke trigger and not know it? We know the locker is in use. (Wait- he didn't go to work- was he killed and his locker taken over?)
I believe the locker belonged to one of the late guys in the truck, who presumably had the actual key. Actually, I was kind of expecting little sister to just off the foreman guy once she got him into his office. I mean, don't Islamic fanatic terrorists disapprove of that kind of thing? Do you think that guy will write a letter to the Penthouse Forum now? "I never thought it would happen to me...." Anyway, I think the locker belonged to one of the lackeys in the truck, who presumably worked there in between running errands for the Cause. I suppose the "trigger" is some kind of bomb component needed to set the thing off; I guess you don't entrust mere lackeys with the actual ability to detonate your nuclear device, sort of the evil terrorist equivalent of "The Football".
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Old 02-05-2003, 07:11 AM
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Anyway, I think the locker belonged to one of the lackeys in the truck, who presumably worked there in between running errands for the Cause. I suppose the "trigger" is some kind of bomb component needed to set the thing off; I guess you don't entrust mere lackeys with the actual ability to detonate your nuclear device, sort of the evil terrorist equivalent of "The Football".
Sayed called Marie while she was in the office where she killed Reza and the two CTU agents. She was removing the hard drive from the computer Reza had been accessing, so any trace of a money trail is now gone, or at least it's with Marie.

Sayed told her the two lackeys were dead, it was just *someone* (I forget the name) with the bomb now, and they needed the trigger in *someone else's* locker at the lumber company. She was to change her appearance and go get the trigger and then come to meet him.
That's how I knew Burning Man wasn't Sayed. He's waiting for the trigger. I guess he's the only one who knows how to put the bomb together.

Was the FBI/torture guy putting the defibrillator paddles on Stanon's head? Ouch!

That bit with Kim was spoiled in People magazine weeks ago. It said she was bitten by a mountain lion while filming a scene for the show, but was a brave little trouper and went back and finished the scene, after they sedated the mountain lion.
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Old 02-05-2003, 07:28 AM
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That said, doesn't look like Bouncy Bouncy will be doing much running with her leg in a trap. Sorry, guys.

And who is Marko, anyway? And how did Marie hook up with Ali?

Anyone else think Stanton has been set up by Sherry? Yes, he reactivated Opcom (what's that again?) but did he make the phone call to order the destruction of Jack's plane? Or did Sherry set things up so it looked like he did?

I guess threatening terrorist's families is an effective ploy...Nina did it on the plane with Whatshisname.
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Old 02-05-2003, 07:30 AM
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Actually, I was kind of expecting little sister to just off the foreman guy once she got him into his office.
MEBuckner, what leads you to the conclusion that she didn't kill the foreman guy? I think she did.

I also posted in one of these threads right after the delivery truck guys had their little problems, that I didn't think the nuke was in the truck. Still seems to be up in the air whether it is or isn't, but it appears that Marie now has the triggering device

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Old 02-05-2003, 08:00 AM
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Well, she certainly had no qualms about doing Reza for the cause. We also know the bomb won't be going off until the trigger meets the truck.

BTW, what happened to the truck? The last I remember it was parked in the street, perhaps in front of the Warner house. I'm beginning to think the bomb was to be assembled at the wedding.

Can someone refresh my memory about the truck incident? There were 3 guys in the truck, right? Two are dead, right? Leaving the third to report what happened to Sayid, right? Dang my non-photographic memory!
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Old 02-05-2003, 08:20 AM
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See, I took it to mean that the guy who was supposed to deliver the trigger was the torturer that did in the PI and was about to kill Kate before Jack jumped in and he popped his cyanide pill.
I'm SOOOOO glad they finally got back on schedule with this show. If I had to watch another thing of American Idol, I was going to have to throw my t.v. out the window.
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Old 02-05-2003, 08:28 AM
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MEBuckner, what leads you to the conclusion that she didn't kill the foreman guy? I think she did.


B.J. Foreman watched Marie leave after getting what she needed from the locker. I think she gave him his keys back actually. Kinda looked like he was expecting a good-bye kiss.

Yick, a kiss after where her mouth has been? Nasty!

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Old 02-05-2003, 08:45 AM
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Whatever. All I can say is I grow more and more weary of the Goddam Kim plot. I said it the first episode this season, and it just keeps getting worse.

Yes, she's cute, but I really don't care because she slows the rest of the show down and and it's ... just ... annoying how they just make bad stuff happen to her to keep her in the show.

Jack: "If you stay in LA, you'll die. Go to your aunt's house."

Kim: "Good plan."

[hops in car, drives away to safety, chills by the poolside while LA becomes dust]

Gee-friggin'-whiz, sounds too fargin' hard for the bloody [bleepittyblap] writers to think someone in LA might have something of a normal life!!!!

Graaahhh!! The more I think of it the madder I get!


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Old 02-05-2003, 09:13 AM
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I don't understand why Stanton is (apparently) protecting Sherry. Unless he thinks he can somehow turn this torture to his advantage.

I think Kim could have easily gotten out of that trap, I'll have to review the tape, but it looked like she could have just pushed the loop back to make the hole bigger and slip her foot out. Although she is dumb enough to not figure it out and just keep pulling at it. Anyway, I was laughing at that scene because the Kim story keeps getting more and more ridiculous. I too was rooting for the furry kitty.

I thought it was pretty obvious that the burning man wasn't Sayed Ali. Seems like a pretty standard technique, dress someone in your clothes and burn them beyond recognition, I'm surprised Jack didn't assume that was the case from the start. Though he's probably just tired.

Finally, what's up with them showing spoilers of more than next episode. I accidentally saw some things while innocently watching another show (not even on FOX) that didn't happen in this episode:

SPOILER:
1) I know I saw Sayed Ali being held by agents with some sort of a bit in his mouth (probably to stop him from swallowing a cyanide capsule). That's also why I knew that the burning man wasn't him.

2) I saw Kate (or was it Marie), possibly at CTU headquarters, saying something like: "You'll never find it, we're all going to die!".


Anyway, I wish they wouldn't show anything from the next episode (or later) in the commercials for the show. The ads should show what happened in the last episode if they're trying to get new people to watch. The scenes from next episode are fine at the end of the show though, since we know they're there.
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Just how does the CTU get the blueprints of EVERY building in Greater Los Angeles?

I would think the City of LA would be hard pressed to find the blueprints of any building that it had to issue a permit for.
Excellent point, BobT! But I was wondering just how White Bread Jack knew EXACTLY how much longer the Moslem prayer service would last. 17minutes. . . 10 minutes. . . he almost counted down the seconds to the end!
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Old 02-05-2003, 09:26 AM
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You just know the kitty's gonna pounce on her, she'll be knocked down and roll down a hillside, hit her head....

And develop amnesia. It probably runs in the family.

This would be AFTER she chews off her foot to get out of the trap, right?
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Okay, the Fox site now has the summary up from this one, which helps clear up a few things about the locker, the trigger, and the lackeys.

Marko (Locker Boy) is one of the dead lackeys. Basheer is the other. The third lackey -- The Lackey Who LivedTM -- is Omar. He has the van. Apparently he was able to get in contact with Sayed Ali, because Sayed tells Marie on the phone that the two are dead, and Omar is all that's left. The trigger was in Marko's locker, which Marko obviously cannot retrieve now because he is Ant Food.

The question I still have is whether the bomb is actually in the van, or somewhere else. The phone call seemed to indicate to me that the Three Lackeys were supposed to deliver the trigger. But then nothing would have been in the van when it blew out a tire, and they were sure secretive about the van. That would make me think that something important IS in the van -- so my guess is that yes, this is where the bomb is. And Marie simply needs to retrieve the trigger because Marko is dead (and had the locker key).

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I don't understand why Stanton is (apparently) protecting Sherry. Unless he thinks he can somehow turn this torture to his advantage.
Well, presumably she and Stanton are together in come kind of plan where they both come out winning big in the end, and remember that Sherry urges him (in her little secret phone call) to "stay the course", and that he'll get everything he wanted in the end.

Of course, somebody suggested that perhaps Sherry is just using Stanton and then sacrificing him, and I could see that, too. In fact, there are a couple of possibilities that occurred:
1) Perhaps she really IS trying to get in good with the Prez, and is doing the whole double-agent thing on the baddies.
2) Perhaps she is in cahoots with Novick, who seems to be the closest advisor to the Prez. Remember that Novick, in this episode, convinces the Prez to take action against Stanton, up the stakes (i.e. implying interrogation means that are beyond the norm), and deal with the ramifications later. What if THIS is one part of Sherry's plan? To publicly reveal the Prez using torture to extract information and get him impeached.
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Old 02-05-2003, 09:50 AM
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Excellent point, BobT! But I was wondering just how White Bread Jack knew EXACTLY how much longer the Moslem prayer service would last. 17minutes. . . 10 minutes. . . he almost counted down the seconds to the end!
Remember, Jack used to be the head of CTU -- the Counter Terrorist Unit. He is not so "White Bread". I would think that he is going to have a lot of knowledge about the cultures and practices of terrorists that come from foreign countries and religions. I find it very believable that he would know when Moslem prayer time is, and how long it lasts. Most often, terrorists from the Middle East are doing it in the name of Allah.
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I'm starting to more and more distrust Novick, which is a pity cause I like him. Likewise I feel they are going to swerve us all and make Sherry into a face before this is all over. I don't care if she cuts the blue wire with 2 seconds left on the bomb, I'm still going to hate her!
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BTW, what happened to the truck? The last I remember it was parked in the street, perhaps in front of the Warner house. I'm beginning to think the bomb was to be assembled at the wedding.

Can someone refresh my memory about the truck incident? There were 3 guys in the truck, right? Two are dead, right? Leaving the third to report what happened to Sayid, right? Dang my non-photographic memory!
Last we saw the truck, two of the lackeys had killed each other after one had second thoughts about nuking L.A.
That left the third one (Omar, apparently) looking around with a "Oh, shit, now what?!?" ezpression on his face. They were somewhere in downtown L.A.; it was right after the Kindly Pool Guy had helped them change the flat tire. They weren't at the Warner house.

It does all make you wonder about the wedding, though. Was Marie going to go through with the wedding, knowing that Ali was going to nuke the city? And she offed Reza so callously. Was she planning on running out on the wedding, to be with Ali at some point, like when the bomb went off? It looks like she didn't really love Reza at all.
I hope they explain that, rather than leave it hanging.
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Excellent point, BobT! But I was wondering just how White Bread Jack knew EXACTLY how much longer the Moslem prayer service would last. 17minutes. . . 10 minutes. . . he almost counted down the seconds to the end!
These apparently are Moslem prayer services that are rigorously timed. Perhaps I should convert to Islam from Catholicism, because we never know exactly when the priest is going to finish Mass.

I can see Jack Bauer waiting outside a Catholic Church, "Dammit, there's an extra 10 people wanting Communion. And 5 of them want to drink the wine! But now 8 of them are skipping out after Communion! Wait, is that an usher! What's he got in his hands! Are those donuts? Look out he's got a cruller! GO GO GO!"
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And she offed Reza so callously.
Well, she did shed a tear, and said "Reza, you really are very sweet." right before she shot him. Of course, if her plan was to help Ali nuke the city, then certainly Reza would have died in the blast, too -- and since that was in the original plan, what did she care how he died? The bitch!

I'm now thinking that you are right -- that perhaps the bomb was going to be set off at the wedding. Since Marie was helping, there would have been some task she was slated to do (besides the last minute locker retrieval). I think the van was going to be heading to the wedding -- one among many delivery vans present.
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Old 02-05-2003, 01:27 PM
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A mountain lion? Maybe next she could be abducted by space aliens.
One scriptwriter to another: "Hey, let's have her encounter a mountain lion, and then have her do exactly the opposite of what she should!" Common wisdom is that you should NEVER run from a cougar--the best defense is to face it and make yourself appear as large as possible. Running away just triggers the attack instinct.
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