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08-10-2003, 09:58 PM
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Trek Dopers! Enterprise Season 3 starts 9/10/03
Not on the web site yet. I saw a 10 second blurb on UPN about 10 minutes ago.
You gonna watch? I have to. I swore an oath by the mighty Feklar that I would avenge all who disappoint Trekkers, so I have to see if the 3rd season Enterprise revives the franchise, or kills it. Or just bores the hell out of everyone who really wanted to be entertained again by a Star Trek series or movie. If one can believe the hype, this season might be truly good. And even Trekky. But, we've been lied to before. See STV:TFF With all the violence and conflict and hard stories promised, I hope they don't forget the Panda.  Failure to reply will be dealt with harshly. Resistance is futile... Number One. 
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#2
08-10-2003, 10:08 PM
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Actually I am looking forward to the new season. I had pretty much lost interest in ST, haven't even seen the last movie yet. But I feel while the season finale had some flaws, it did peak my interest on how the new story line might develope. Much like the next Star Wars movie, I am hoping it is worthwhile, and will see it, but I am not getting my expectations up.
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08-10-2003, 11:56 PM
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Well, let's be fair. Most of the Trek franchises didn't hit their stride in their first, second, or even third seasons. Enterprise isn't half bad (ducking as various multi-phasic vegetables are hurled my way) already, and methinks that it promises to get even better. At least, I am keeping the faith, as I swear on the leisure suit of Vic Fontaine.
To answer the OP, yes, I am gonna watch.....Timmy
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#8
08-11-2003, 08:42 AM
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Please let T'Pol wear the white suit every episode. Please let T'Pol wear the white suit every episode. . . .
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#9
08-11-2003, 12:52 PM
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Me? Watch Enterprise? Surely you can't be serious!
(yes, yes, you are serious, and stop calling you Shirley, i got it...)
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#10
08-11-2003, 01:56 PM
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Sure, I'll watch Enterprise's next season, but I'm pretty much treating this entire series as fanfic. It's better that way.
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08-11-2003, 01:59 PM
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 Hey, NCB, if you're Number One, who's the captain? ...just don't say Aesiron...just don't say Aesiron...
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#12
08-11-2003, 03:05 PM
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I watched the first few episodes of season one and then that night fell off of my TV radar (I usually only watch TV on Sunday nights other than 24). Could someone recap the story ark for the past two seasons? All of the threads about the show on this board seem to be playing some sort of wierd game where they make up stuff that never happened amongst the real reviews. Bizarre, I just don't get the Enterprise threads. Can't figure out what is real and what is a joke. We don't play any of that funny business in the 24 threads.
So, without any fake stuff, what has happened so far? (Pretty much assures me that I'll get NOTHING BUT fake stuff, but what the hell). Season 1 & 2 recap? Anyone? DaLovin' Dj
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#13
08-11-2003, 03:11 PM
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Turns out it is all a joke. Enterprise isn't a real TV show.
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08-11-2003, 03:19 PM
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08-11-2003, 03:36 PM
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We play on the ENT threads because half the shows have sucked so far. The good ones are really good, tho, so we haven't given up yet.
------------- Strory arc: Humans finally have a Warp 5 ship, the NSX Enterprise, so they decide to really start some exploration. Vulcans have been "guiding" humans along but are very stuck up about it and basically want to hold back the underdeveloped race of Man. There is no Federation yet. A temporal cold war has chosen Quantum as a focal point ot fight over. Innuendo leads us to believe Quantum has something major to do with the developemnt of the Federation and the Prime Directive. The insane Vulcan woman on board is growing accustomed to the Humans and may (in time) help shape a new attitude towards Humans for the Vulcans. A new arc was introduced as a semi-cliffhanger. The Xindi, figured that Humans wipe them out in the future, so they atttack Earth and kill Tripp's sister. This leads to a mission of scouting/war for the crew in the 3rd season which has been talked up a bit as a lot of action and deep stories. -------------------- If you actually watch the episodes, the threads are self explanatory. If you miss one (or some) and aren't familiar with us (Trek Dopers), you will be hopelessly lost. We tried some changes, but they just don't last. I blame Linus and Cervaise. I've never posted fake, weird, or misleading hijacks*. And, we have a lot of very creative people posting to those threads. It can be entertaing. FTR, I always preface my real comments with something on the order of "15 minutes into episode, what does Phlox mean by saying..." or "The teaser doesn't fit the blah blah blah..." or something similar. Regular trek Dopers catch on, but it is very hard to follow if you're not regular. And I doubt it will change much over season 3. Usually, the real discussion is about early page 2 or late page 1 to around 4 or so, then it becomes hijacks again. * a blatant lie
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#17
08-11-2003, 04:39 PM
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----------------------------------------------------------- Doh! Locutus. I thought you were signing yourself as number one.  Aes as the barber, huh? I'm not letting him anywhere near me with a sharp object. And don't try telling me how well phaser-cutting phasers work on hair. I'm moderately hopeful for this season, but not too hopeful. I am curious to see what they do with yet another new race that I don't recall being mentioned in previous series. Maybe they get wiped out during a war, which would explain a few things... * a blatant bit of egotistical self-promotion.
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#18
08-11-2003, 05:34 PM
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-------------- JustPlainBryan -- which season is it you are treating as fanfic? upcoming season 3, or the just-finished season 2 (which didn't really happen...)? ::grin::
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08-11-2003, 06:44 PM
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#20
08-11-2003, 06:47 PM
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Anyone here think the Xindi are really going to be some familiar alien who just have a temporary name change?
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08-11-2003, 08:26 PM
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08-11-2003, 09:39 PM
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www.trektoday.com has real, honest-to-goodness summaries and reviews of all the eps. The last handful, coming up this week and until 9/10, are mostly decent. Other tidbits, all of which are true from my perspective:  Trip is spelled with only one "p." He's a good old boy who's good at fixing stuff but not so great at first contacts. T'Pol has loosened up a bit. Still waiting for Malcolm the armory officer to follow suit. Travis the helmsman is the one we know the least about and we still don't hear him speak much. Phlox is one cool doc, especially when he's pissed. Archer is finally starting to toughen up as a captain and get past his tendency towards weenerism. Porthos the beagle is cute, but we still have no idea where the poor doggie's bathroom is. We've seen Klingons, Andorians, Vulcans and Tellarites; only heard the Romulans; saw Borg but they didn't mess up the continuity. There you go.
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08-11-2003, 10:35 PM
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And don't be so naive.. I don't use phaser-cutting phasers. I use bat'leths. ;j
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08-12-2003, 12:42 AM
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08-12-2003, 12:47 AM
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Nonsense... the Xindi will end up not having ever existed, as some temporal incursion will simply erase them from history, or at least they will fall through a wormhole, be exposed to googla-moogla-bawomba radiation, resulting in the development of shapeshifting abilities, and they will go on to found some sort of Dominion, or something... The possibilities are, of course, staggering.
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#27
08-12-2003, 12:50 AM
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Maybe they get shot with that ray that that dude from Robocop and 70's show was using to blast races out of existance. Or better yet the whole Enterprise series gets shot with it! (except Hoshi, who is protected via the power of nakedness.)
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#30
08-12-2003, 09:30 AM
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Sorry. I'm just bitter because I had to play a Ferengi for a whole summer at an amusement park. At first it seemed like it would be cool. My mother recorded all of the original ST episodes when I was a kid, and as a result I grew to love them. I watched TNG religiously and most of DS9 (which was as far as they had gotten at the time). I loved the stuff. My very first job and the training consisted of getting paid to watch episodes of TNG (to catch up on the mythology). I already had it down. Then I learned how to make myself a Ferengi. The makeup looked pretty good. Then I had to paint my nails twice for a nice silvery color, and install dentures that made it look like I had some serious fangs. This was all cool until it was 95 degrees out and some punk smugly asks me "What is the 34th rule of aquisition?" I even memorized a good chunk of the rules, but I found out that to answer even one question correctly did nothing but inspire the little trekkers to never quit - until they had stumped me or I had assaulted them. I grew to hate that job very quickly, and was only able to take comfort in the fact that I could make small children cry easily (the makeup was pretty convincing - to a 5 year old a Ferengi is just a monster - no offense Monstre). That, and the fact I was making 3 times as much in 4 hours a day as my friends were making in 9 hours waiting on tables. Also, a good friend who went to the same college as I did was a Klingon. We had taken stage combat together. There were 9 or 10 stock scripts. We were supposed to go out and perform these scripts, but we were forced (and encouraged) to improvise. Most of the scripts SUCKED, so me and my buddy would write our own bits. They mostly consisted of me stealing candy and toys from the shops (the air-conditioed shops) & letting kids see me. They would tell the Klingon "security officer" what I was doing and he would come in and kick my ass all around the store. Yeah, that was the highlight. Anyway, thanks for the arc info and links to the reviews. I never kept up with Voyager and I haven't been able to maintain with Enterprise either. I still love the stuff at heart. I wish they wouldn't play with time travel so much, but oh well. DaLovin' Dj
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#31
08-12-2003, 10:26 AM
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Wow, thank you for that story, DaLovin' Dj. What a fascinating little peak into your murky past. I personally have never had a job that involved wearing fang dentures and nail polish, or getting my ass kicked around a store be a Klingon.
I'll be watching this season... I'm somewhat hopeful, after Season 2 ended on an upswing. The episodes seemed to get progressively better after the middle of last season, so I'm interested to see if that continues. And now, Kn*ckers' Top 10 Predictions for Season 3 of Enterprise: 10) Over the course of the season, Archer will give at least eight speeches on the need for a Prime Directive. 9) Trip will run around in his underpants on four separate occasions. 8) Malcolm won't get laid. Ever. 7) Hoshi WILL get laid. Twice. In the same episode. 6) T'Pol's emotions will run rampant and turn her into a furious, snarling Bitch of Death. She will beat the living crap out of Archer, in a scene that is supposed to be rich with sexual tension, but is really only vaguely disturbing. 5) Porthos will be given cheese. 4) Travis will go for three episodes straight with his only line being "Sir?" 3) We will see Phlox' creepy stretchy smile again. Yay! 2) There will be a Very Special episode which deals metaphorically with peer-pressure to use drugs. At the end of the episode, there will be a plug for The Partnership for a Drug-Free America and the number one thing that will happen this season: 1) Panda, panda, panda. There will be at least one instance of gratuitous pandering per episode. Yay!
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#32
08-12-2003, 12:06 PM
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New Panda in season 3: http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=15833
http://us.imdb.com/Name?Rose,+Julia Brian
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#33
08-12-2003, 12:10 PM
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Forgot:
11. The reset button get used once. 12. Travis does talk and reminds us why he isn't used more. 13. Porthos shows more acting range, continously upstaging Archer until he gets his own series Star Trek: Deep Space Dog Park. 14. Ratings continue to slide, continuity is then completely destroyed in a series of gimmick episodes. Show is cancelled at the end of the season. Berman and Braga blame the fans. 15. Still no series for Capt. Sulu.
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#34
08-12-2003, 12:24 PM
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Hopefully she keeps the Catwoman costume while on Enterprise...
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08-12-2003, 12:56 PM
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08-12-2003, 04:20 PM
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08-12-2003, 06:02 PM
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Peace is good for business -- 35th rule of acquisition
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08-12-2003, 10:16 PM
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18. Somebody will complain about the uniforms and ask why they can't be red, gold, and blue.
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08-13-2003, 12:07 AM
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08-13-2003, 01:07 AM
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He would just catch me and place me under arrest. I'd run, we would have him hit me. I'd fly across the room and as I tried to get up he would kick me in the face. In stage combat the person getting hit does all of the work. Any punch I threw would look like a fly swatting a mosquito. Any time he hit me, I would fly back pretty good. It was definately being pretty liberal with the guidelines, but the kids dug it. Either way, I never won, unless the Vulcan showed up and gave him the grip treatment for abusing a prisoner. Then we'd carry him off and . . .
Never mind. It wasn't real people. What's wrong with you people?
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#46
08-13-2003, 02:44 AM
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What? It wasn't real? They didn't really transform you into a Ferngi and you weren't fighting real Klingons?
Crash (that was the sound of our illusions being shattered) dalovindj, I hope I don't sound too snotty about this, but please don't make the mistake of thinking that just because we enjoy getting a little silly in these threads that we are out of touch with reality. It may just be that the people here are a little curious about your experience. We've all seen the people performing in various roles like that at parks, but not very many of us have had the chance to see what goes on behind the scenes and so may wonder things such as "do the people who put these things together care about authenticity, or do they just throw people in costume and send them out there?" I understand if it's a painful experience for you to re-live unhappy memories. If that's the case, please just let us know that rather than insulting our intelligence.
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#47
08-13-2003, 06:44 AM
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New guy checking in. Trekkie Background: Loved TNG, watched every episode countless times. Never watched any other series until Enterprise, of which I've seen every episode.
My biggest Enterprise complaint is that planet not orbiting a sun had a lush jungle on it. [Jon Stewart]Whhhaaaa???[/Jon Stewart] You would think my biggest complaint would be the theme song, but as I TiVo them, I haven't heard anything past "It's been..." Need more decontamination scenes.
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#48
08-13-2003, 07:50 AM
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But of course I'll be watching! I've got to keep an eye out for any more Tellarites, firstly.
And I've got to get my weekly quota of Phlox and Archer. And I can't miss Porthos!Seriously, how can I -not- give Enterprise a chance? I'm still of the opinion, however that Berman & Braga (aka "Bermaga?") have made a travesty of the Trek franchise. But I'll still watch; in the mean time, though, I'm going to check out more of the ST novels, including a book of short stories submitted by fans/writers for a "contest" that has been held yearly for several years (I think it's on the 6th year, or at least they've put out 6 volumes) and see if those stories are any good. Can't recall the name of the volumes off the top of my head, however. 
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#49
08-13-2003, 09:22 AM
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what was the combination to the safe?". Didn't mean to insult you (well, not really). I was just poking a little fun. In my defense, I will claim membership in the group "trekkers", which allows me to mock them openly (since I'm one of them). Also, I was at an Internet Kiosk, and I was out of time (prematurely do to a disconnect induced reboot - "You have 60 seconds until Self De. . . err . . . Reboot" - grrrr), and was looking for a zippy way to end the post quick. I was playing around with being the "jaded outsider looking in" on account of feeling left out of those mysterious other theads. I'm just jealous that I haven't gotten to watch Enterprise, although it sounds like I'm lucky I missed Voyager. Either way, I've found a new love in 24, so ya'll can have your exclusive little club while I watch my future wife run. Run Kim. Run. I'd be glad to answer any questions anyone has. I'm just playin' rough. Hope I didn't break anybody. To answer the one question posed, I never defeated the Kilngon without the Vulcan (who really played the part well) or another Klingon coming to my aid for some reason or another. Usually a con. I could occaisionally hope to score an escape, but never a win. Except that one day I deceided to play myself as a robot assasin version of myself (as a Ferengi). When the Klingon went for me, it was as if I had super strength. He acted like he was shocked and in pain as I caught his arm mid-swing and started to squeeze. Some trekkers started complaining until they heard my robot assasin schtick, and then the Vulcan came in and disabled me right before I was about to get a kill. It was like fan-fic, only it was real. Loved it. Ahhhhh. . . I mean . . . I hated it. Hated it, you hear. I . . . it was . . . how could I like . . . demeaning . . . I would never . . . Damn. I promised myself I wouldn't cry . . . DaLovin' Dj
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#50
08-13-2003, 11:57 AM
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When I heard about Enterprise, I was happy to hear Scott Bakula was cast (since I loved Quantum Leap), but not so immediately happy about the "prequel" aspect (canon? what canon?). Was quickly disappointed to see them encountering an alien (in like the 3rd or 4th episode) that had holodeck technology, and then even more so when they gave it to the Klingons. (Although there was the fun goofy line uttered by a Klingon in the holo-simulation of their homeworld, "I can see my house from here!") But I thought it got better later in the first season. The second season? Well... that didn't happen. Figment of my imagination. Quote:
Now how is she going to be your future wife when next season she will obviously get captured by a band of vigilante mimes, escape, and then be abducted by anal-probing aliens? Run Kim Run!
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