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Is there some pithy term for when people conclude that an online debate stopped abruptly because they were just so right, not because other people got too bored or annoyed to keep engaging with them? There really should be.
Delusional Asshole Fatigue Quota (DAFQ), pronounced: "DA-FaQ?"

I just made that up. Tell all your friends.
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Yeah, I think the answer to "Who fucking says cohort in this context?" is "pretty much every graduate student in the country". It's completely standard usage in academic circles.
Yep, my grad school (business) even had a Cohort MBA, which wasn't some kind of degree in how to be a mercenary or anything.

Rather, it meant that those of us in the 'cohort' would all take our core courses together as a unit, and graduate together at the same time. It was an intense full time program, not the usual a-la-carte style that most degree programs are.

And this was 2002....
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Is there some pithy term for when people conclude that an online debate stopped abruptly because they were just so right, not because other people got too bored or annoyed to keep engaging with them? There really should be.
Megalomania?
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Wrong pinniped.
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Do you have a better, more earthy word to describe the reason a walrus and sea lion might get conflated?

I remember when this was the last place on Earth one would ever expect to get jumped on for using an accurate piece of scientific terminology for which there is no simpler substitute.
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Incel must mean something other than what I think it does.

I thought incel was short for involuntary celibate and people used it to say "haha, noone wants to fuck you, even though you desperately want to get laid"

Which I always thought was pretty childish put down considering almost every high school freshman and sophomore would meet this description.
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Incel must mean something other than what I think it does.

I thought incel was short for involuntary celibate and people used it to say "haha, noone wants to fuck you, even though you desperately want to get laid"

Which I always thought was pretty childish put down considering almost every high school freshman and sophomore would meet this description.
Every high school freshman and sophomore wants to drive. Nobody thinks, "HaHa, no one will give you a car because you don't have a license even though you desperately want to drive!".

So when people talk about incels, high school freshmen and sophomores are not a population that instantly comes to mind.
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Do you have a better, more earthy word to describe the reason a walrus and sea lion might get conflated?
Yes: "stupid" about covers the reason.
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I remember when this was the last place on Earth one would ever expect to get jumped on for using an accurate piece of scientific terminology for which there is no simpler substitute.
"This" "place" being the fucking Pit, mate. Take your "pinnipeds" to GQ. Or better yet, shove it.
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Yes: "stupid" about covers the reason.
"This" "place" being the fucking Pit, mate. Take your "pinnipeds" to GQ. Or better yet, shove it.
...and make room for a "cohort".
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Incel must mean something other than what I think it does.
Try reading the thread.
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...and make room for a "cohort".

Aggressive anti-intellectualism, nice. Sarah Palin would be proud.
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Aggressive anti-intellectualism, nice.
For it to be anti-intellectualism, you'd have to actually be something resembling an intellectual. Rather than the lightweight poseur we know you to be.

We're not anti-intellectual, we're anti-twat.
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There’s no way to salvage this “cohort” self-own; not sure why you guys are doubling down on it rather than quietly dropping it like every other time I posterize you. But hey, you do you.
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not sure why you guys are doubling down on it
What do you mean, "you guys"? Your poster recognition's about as good as your marine mammal identification.

I'm not trying to "salvage" anything, just pointing and laughing at the pseud.

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ooh, ooh, do the one where you tell us how clever your daddy was (but of course not as politically enlightened as yourself ).

Or the one where you post a picture of your test results, that's always good for a laugh...

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Incel must mean something other than what I think it does.

I thought incel was short for involuntary celibate and people used it to say "haha, noone wants to fuck you, even though you desperately want to get laid"

Which I always thought was pretty childish put down considering almost every high school freshman and sophomore would meet this description.
It means something other than what you think it does. Taking it literally is a lot like taking "pro-life" literally - you would naturally assume that pro-life person would be aggressively opposed to executions (including any deity that arranged for somebody to be executed on a cross), but you'd be mistaken.

Vaguely interestingly, the term originally did mean what it sounds like it means, but it was hijacked by misogynistic human shitpiles in order to give their hate group a label more reputable than any accurate term would be. The result, of course, is that the term no longer is reputable, at least not to anybody who has the faintest idea what's going on.

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Speaking of hijacks: Dibble, you do realize there’s a generalized anti-SlackerInc Pit thread right next door?
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Old 08-08-2019, 05:29 PM
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Basically, “involuntary celibate” is a euphemism now. Like “national socialism” or “biosolids”.
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Old 08-08-2019, 05:48 PM
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Speaking of hijacks: Dibble, you do realize there’s a generalized anti-SlackerInc Pit thread right next door?
Eh, if we're here, why not?
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Yeah, I see no problem with making fun of Slacker in more than one thread.
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Old 08-08-2019, 05:57 PM
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Whatever, just thought some people might want to stay vaguely on topic.
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Old 08-08-2019, 06:14 PM
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I was tempted to speculate about whether it’s off-topic or not to criticize Slacker in a thread about incels, but that is rude and childish so I’ll refrain from doing so. Besides, I have no personal beef against him at this point, it would just be in the spirit of being a smart-ass.

EDIT: Except the “black people on average are dumb” thing. That I’m not cool with.

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I was tempted to speculate about whether it’s off-topic or not to criticize Slacker in a thread about incels, but that is rude and childish so I’ll refrain from doing so.

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Married (for the second time), four kids.
I honestly have no idea what you're trying to imply.

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That the oh-so-coy “I COULD imply SlackerInc is an incel, but I won’t” is nonsensical. Whatever else I am, I am not celibate. Nor for that matter have I spoken up on behalf of the incel program.
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Old 08-08-2019, 07:35 PM
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Yeah, I see no problem with making fun of Slacker in more than one thread.
I just checked and it is, in fact, possible. Carry on.

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Whatever, just thought some people might want to stay vaguely on topic.
Why? The OP left a while back, after announcing that we were a bunch of babies for not accepting the "science" on the incel.wiki.
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The OP left a while back, after announcing that we were a bunch of babies for not accepting the "science" on the incel.wiki.
The Future is only in the past. That’s trippy.
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Why? The OP left a while back, after announcing that we were a bunch of babies for not accepting the "science" on the incel.wiki.
The days of The Future have passed?
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The days of The Future have passed?
Nights of dumb incels
Never reaching womennnnn....
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Speaking of hijacks: Dibble, you do realize there’s a generalized anti-SlackerInc Pit thread right next door?
Why would I want to post responses to your dumb posts in this thread, over in another thread? That loses all sense of intimacy, man.
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Another interesting finding that dovetails with the one I posted upthread:

https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s40806-018-00186-6
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Hormonal contraceptives change women’s natural mate preferences, leading them to prefer nurturing but less genetically compatible men. Cessation of contraceptives reverses these preferences, decreasing women’s attraction to current partners.

So we have heedlessly been running a massive sociobiological experiment for the past 60 years.
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You mean by using birth control to prevent pregnancies? Wow, yes, that's a terrible experiment. I'll be right back. I need to take my shoes off and move into the kitchen.
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That the oh-so-coy “I COULD imply SlackerInc is an incel, but I won’t” is nonsensical. Whatever else I am, I am not celibate. Nor for that matter have I spoken up on behalf of the incel program.
You know, I don't really think that being an Incel is really about being celibate anymore. That's right, I think it has drifted that far from its plantext definition. (Much like "pro-life" has, actually.)

I think that the Incels are a group of people who have specific beliefs about how women think and choose their romantic/sexual partners, about what men should do if they wish to improve their chances with women, and about how men and women should interact in general. They have beliefs about what women should be doing, and how this differs from what they think women are doing.

I think that these beliefs are the core of what makes an Incel an Incel. I think that if an Incel goes out and rapes a woman, while maintaining his beliefs that women are all sluts at heart and that it's his right to rape women due to the horrible crimes womankind has committed against mankind, that doesn't make him stop being an Incel. Quite the opposite, really.


Not to say that I personally think you're an Incel - honestly I don't care enough about you as a person to have formed an opinion on the subject. I just don't think that being married means that a person can't be a participating member on Incel boards and subreddits, and be a full and true member of that group.

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So I had a brief - a very brief, I swear! I'll only need a 30 second shower! - trying to figure out wft is this "genetically compatible" of which that paper [ed: post #581] speaks, that's being so rudely tossed aside in favour of dumb traits like "nurturing" and "helpful". 'Cus as far as I know, "genetically compatible" ain't a thing - pretty much any fertile man and woman can make a baby between themselves just as easily.

Then the penny dropped. "Genetically compatible" means of the same "race", dunnit?
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Mutation. It is the key to evolution.
But without no sex, it's kind of pointless.
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Dang it. I had to look. (I can't copy and paste from that site for some reason.)

The study looked at differences between how much attention women on birth control paid to attractive men versus women who were not on birth control. It found that women not on birth control noticed attractive men more. Further, the difference was primarily noticed at ovulation. The study did not establish a causal relationship. There are others reasons that explain this, but they are not considered in the paper. Women on birth control are more likely to be in a relationship, for example, and bonded women are less likely to notice men or seek partners outside of their relationship.

The study also posits that women in a relationship who cease birth control "should feel disenchanted with their initial partner choice." ("Should" for fuck's sake.) The study's authors admit that "other studies, which used larger samples, have found only partial support or no support at all for this hypothesis."

I could go on, but the paper then delves into speculation about whether "bad boys" are more attractive because of their looks or unreliability. Also, they wrapped up the study under the statistically significant number of participants that they recruited for. They couldn't find enough women that agreed to take part in the research.

Aspidistra The paper claimed to be using "attractiveness" as a proxy for genetic fitness (the idea that perceived good looks such as facial symmetry and a muscular build are tied to the health of the genes a father will pass along). It's not clear that participants were shown men with racial variance. I can't rule out your theory.

tl;dr This study sucks. Slacker is a sexist with Incel leanings, as well as a racist.

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So I had a brief - a very brief, I swear! I'll only need a 30 second shower! - trying to figure out wft is this "genetically compatible" of which that paper [ed: post #581] speaks, that's being so rudely tossed aside in favour of dumb traits like "nurturing" and "helpful". 'Cus as far as I know, "genetically compatible" ain't a thing - pretty much any fertile man and woman can make a baby between themselves just as easily.

Then the penny dropped. "Genetically compatible" means of the same "race", dunnit?
Well...considering that they probably aren't claiming that contraceptives are making women marry outside their species it's likely a euphemism for something like that, since humans are all "genetically compatible" with one another. That's part of the definition of species after all.
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Talk about some wild, and malign, speculation. My interpretation was that it was just about being more into symmetrical men while ovulating, like the UCLA metastudy (which found, amazingly, that ovulating women can unconsciously suss out who is more symmetrical just because they prefer the smell of a T-shirt such a man had worn).


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You mean by using birth control to prevent pregnancies? Wow, yes, that's a terrible experiment. I'll be right back. I need to take my shoes off and move into the kitchen.



I’m all for birth control. My wife and I decided to be done after our youngest son was born seven years ago. But for us, that has not involved a systemic hormonal regimen that takes a sledgehammer to a delicate and complex hormonal system that evolved over eons.
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Basically, “involuntary celibate” is a euphemism now. Like “national socialism” or “biosolids”.
Good analogy!
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Well...considering that they probably aren't claiming that contraceptives are making women marry outside their species it's likely a euphemism for something like that, since humans are all "genetically compatible" with one another. That's part of the definition of species after all.
Part of it, yes, with the caveat that humans and Neandertals were different species but were fully genetically compatible.

See, this is why I like genetics: It's just so dang logical and shit.
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So I had a brief - a very brief, I swear! I'll only need a 30 second shower! - trying to figure out wft is this "genetically compatible" of which that paper [ed: post #581] speaks, that's being so rudely tossed aside in favour of dumb traits like "nurturing" and "helpful". 'Cus as far as I know, "genetically compatible" ain't a thing - pretty much any fertile man and woman can make a baby between themselves just as easily.

Then the penny dropped. "Genetically compatible" means of the same "race", dunnit?
It could mean the opposite, since people who are too close genetically are more likely to double up on the kind of genes for which one copy is OK but two copies produces a miscarriage. That's why it's important to define one's terms and if one can't be arsed, one shouldn't be surprised to be called shit.
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Reminds me of racial IQ and crime debate and similar. Even if there is some scientific support for some of the claims of racists, individuals and society still have a choice on how to address those beliefs if at all. And no one should be using state violence (or personal assholery) to treat certain groups of people differently under the law or interaction.
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I read the paper and it was a crap paper. The authors themselves admitted that they didn't get enough subjects for statistical significance. They are also really reaching for the causation they claim exists, even though larger studies say different things.
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Reminds me of racial IQ and crime debate and similar. Even if there is some scientific support for some of the claims of racists, individuals and society still have a choice on how to address those beliefs if at all. And no one should be using state violence (or personal assholery) to treat certain groups of people differently under the law or interaction.

Agreed.
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Even if there is some scientific support for some of the claims of racists
Except there completely fucking isn't.
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