What is the definition of trolling according to SDMB Mods?

[gvozd]

To my knowledge, it means attempting to lure others into combative argument for purposes of personal entertainment and/or gratuitous disruption. Or by extension, to incite anger, or to provoke, or harass or annoy.

In the thread linked below I had no intention of luring others into combative argument. Yes it was about personal entertainment and for self-amusement. But it absolutely had no intention to annoy, harass, provoke or anger others!
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...d.php?t=659321

Why in the God's name did you consider it trolling? It was of a little curiosity and self-amusement. Why are you getting angry at those who post a few unserious post?

[John Mace]

Intentionally posting inflammatory stuff, like your OP. As Colibri said, it was so stupid it had to be trolling.

[gvozd]

Originally Posted by John Mace

Intentionally posting inflammatory stuff, like your OP. As Colibri said, it was so stupid it had to be trolling.

If something is inflammatory, it is likely to make people feel angry. On the contrary the thread linked above was so stupid that it was unserious, frivolous and funny, not that it was a troll thread. I don't understand why you think it was going to make people feel angry.

[John Mace]

Why did you say "African" instead of "someone with a big dick"? Do you think all African males have dicks bigger than all non-African males?

[gvozd]

Originally Posted by John Mace

Why did you say "African" instead of "someone with a big dick"? Do you think all African males have dicks bigger than all non-African males?

It is called humor. I don't think all African males have dicks bigger than all non-African males but I can remember I have been told by my biology teacher that African males tend to have bigger ones, not only penis but bigger body parts because of climate.

And it is populated in my society that when you first think of an African male the first that will come to your mind is their penis size. Maybe it is because porn industry? Who knows?

Now my posts is offensive to non-Afriancs males? or African males? or what?

[John Mace]

Did you even stop and think that maybe it was some Jew who had stuck his nose up your wife's unit? I mean, really. There are other possibilities than African cock!

[Colibri]

Originally Posted by gvozd

If something is inflammatory, it is likely to make people feel angry. On the contrary the thread linked above was so stupid that it was unserious, frivolous and funny, not that it was a troll thread. I don't understand why you think it was going to make people feel angry.

It was both stupid, and likely to make people angry. It was clearly playing to the stereotype that African males have big dicks, and bound to attract negative commentary - especially since you asked if you could tell if your wife had been cheating with an African because of it. I don't believe you are so culturally ignorant that you would be unaware of this.

Originally Posted by gvozd

In the thread linked below I had no intention of luring others into combative argument. Yes it was about personal entertainment and for self-amusement. But it absolutely had no intention to annoy, harass, provoke or anger others!

General Questions is for the purpose of providing factual information. While we permit some joking, asking a question for the purpose of "personal entertainment and for self-amusement" is not in keeping with the intent of the forum.

[Colibri]

Originally Posted by gvozd

It is called humor. I don't think all African males have dicks bigger than all non-African males but I can remember I have been told by my biology teacher that African males tend to have bigger ones, not only penis but bigger body parts because of climate.

And it is populated in my society that when you first think of an African male the first that will come to your mind is their penis size. Maybe it is because porn industry? Who knows?

Now my posts is offensive to non-Afriancs males? or African males? or what?

Being disingenuous about not knowing it would be offensive is not going to help your case. It's just more trollery.

[Procrustus]

Originally Posted by gvozd

It is called humor. I don't think all African males have dicks bigger than all non-African males but I can remember I have been told by my biology teacher that African males tend to have bigger ones, not only penis but bigger body parts because of climate.

How is that possibly "humor?"

[Ibn Warraq]

Originally Posted by gvozd

It is called humor. I don't think all African males have dicks bigger than all non-African males but I can remember I have been told by my biology teacher that African males tend to have bigger ones, not only penis but bigger body parts because of climate.

And it is populated in my society that when you first think of an African male the first that will come to your mind is their penis size. Maybe it is because porn industry? Who knows?

Now my posts is offensive to non-Afriancs males? or African males? or what?

You had a biology teacher in High School who claimed that "African males" had bigger penises?

How quickly was he disciplined for doing so?

[elbows]

Around these parts, you'll find no one is afraid to see your subtext, and say so.

[TBG]

Trolling = anything someone else doesn't like

It used to mean something different, but that's pretty much how it's used across the internets now.

[gvozd]

Originally Posted by elbows

Around these parts, you'll find no one is afraid to see your subtext, and say so.

You seem to be delusional and/or paranoid. There is NO subtext in my posts.

Originally Posted by Ibn Warraq

You had a biology teacher in High School who claimed that "African males" had bigger penises?

How quickly was he disciplined for doing so?

Because it was not a racist or negative statement, she wasn't disciplined. Moreover, unfortunately you will most likely be not disciplined for something that you do wrong in my country, especially for racist comments.

Originally Posted by TBG

Trolling = anything someone else doesn't like

It used to mean something different, but that's pretty much how it's used across the internets now.

Verily.

@My lord, Colibri , I will answer you soon. I need to get a few "items" that have "resistance to disingenuousness". For why I cannot main my sanity against it.

[Colibri]

Originally Posted by gvozd

You seem to be delusional and/or paranoid. There is NO subtext in my posts.

[Moderator Note]

gvozd, insults are not permitted outside the BBQ Pit. Don't do this again.

@My lord, Colibri , I will answer you soon. I need to get a few "items" that have "resistance to disingenuousness". For why I cannot main my sanity against it.

I can hardly wait.

[gvozd]

Delusional and paranoid are not insult. You are only trying hard to find a reason to ban me.

[John Mace]

Originally Posted by gvozd

Delusional and paranoid are not insult. You are only trying hard to find a reason to ban me.

No need for him to try hard. You're doing an excellent job all by yourself.

[Colibri]

Originally Posted by gvozd

Delusional and paranoid are not insult. You are only trying hard to find a reason to ban me.

If you want to avoid being banned, pretending that you don't understand what those words mean and that they aren't insulting isn't going to convince anyone that you're not trolling. Quite the reverse, in fact.

[runner pat]

Originally Posted by gvozd

Delusional and paranoid are not insult. You are only trying hard to find a reason to ban me.

in·sult/inˈsəlt/
Verb:
Speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse.
Noun:
A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action.
Synonyms:
verb. offend - affront - outrage - abuse - hurt - injure
noun. affront - offence - offense - outrage - abuse - indignity

[John Mace]

In my country, delusional is normal. Is not insult. Sister is delusional, mother is delusional. Is sad day all over American countryland when delusional become insult.

[Ibn Warraq]

Originally Posted by gvozd

Because it was not a racist or negative statement, she wasn't disciplined. Moreover, unfortunately you will most likely be not disciplined for something that you do wrong in my country, especially for racist comments.

Actually, it is a racist comment.

Anyway, what country are you from where high school biology teachers regularly instruct their students that "African males" have larger penises?

[Smapti]

In

Originally Posted by John Mace

In my country, delusional is normal. Is not insult. Sister is delusional, mother is delusional. Is sad day all over American countryland when delusional become insult.

In Soviet Union, internet trolls you!

[Senegoid]

To put it as charitably as possible, as I suggested in his other thread, gvozd is having some cultural impedance mismatch here, maybe?

What is considered normal and acceptable discourse in Turkey? Is the stereotype of Black = Big Dick really a widely accepted "fact" there, and is it considered acceptable to say things like that?

I don't know if certain parts of the world are on the same page as certain other parts of the world, regarding cross-cultural sensitivity, and avoiding stereotypes, etc. It seems that gvozd needs to understand that this won't fly in mainstream American culture. And he may run into trouble saying things like that in Europe too. (He's studying in Germany now, is he not?)

We also wonder why a 19-year-old college student who's already abandoned all hope of ever having a female in his life is asking this question. (Does he need to know fast? Or is he just looking for some light-duty-dirty porn talk to help himself relieve that horrible itch of which he complains?)

I myself took him seriously in his anti-sex-drive thread and tried to make some realistic suggestions that actually responded to his OP there, while everybody else piled on the BSDL. But now with his fat-puss thread, he is losing what shred of credibility he may have had.

gvozd, the message for you is: No, what you wrote isn't accepted generally in American culture (and probably not in European either), and yes, that is considered inflammatory. To be accepted here, you need to learn that if you don't know already.

[Peter Morris]

Originally Posted by gvozd

Delusional and paranoid are not insult. You are only trying hard to find a reason to ban me.

They don't NEED a reason. The message board is privately owned. You are here by invitation. The owners have the right to withdraw that invitation at any time for any reason, or for no reason. If they want to ban you, they can. And if you continue your behaviour, they certainly will.

[gvozd]

Originally Posted by Senegoid

gvozd, the message for you is: No, what you wrote isn't accepted generally in American culture (and probably not in European either), and yes, that is considered inflammatory. To be accepted here, you need to learn that if you don't know already.

At long last! Yes, I really did not know that.

Now, I can say Colibri is mistaken to claim that I pretend "not knowing". I really did not know.

I am not in Germany yet. I will be starting after 6th August if my visa arrives on time.

Originally Posted by Senegoid

Is the stereotype of Black = Big Dick really a widely accepted "fact" there, and is it considered acceptable to say things like that?

Yes. Big Dick really a widely accepted "fact" here and it is considered acceptable to say things like that. But it might be unacceptable just because of talking about sexual content.

Originally Posted by Senegoid

I myself took him seriously in his anti-sex-drive thread and tried to make some realistic suggestions that actually responded to his OP there, while everybody else piled on the BSDL. But now with his fat-puss thread, he is losing what shred of credibility he may have had.

Thank you really.

Originally Posted by Ibn Warraq

Actually, it is a racist comment.

Anyway, what country are you from where high school biology teachers regularly instruct their students that "African males" have larger penises?

regularly? regularly?? regularly???

I politely ask you to stop this attitude. Biology teachers do not regularly instruct their students that "African males" have larger penises.

Originally Posted by Peter Morris

They don't NEED a reason. The message board is privately owned. You are here by invitation. The owners have the right to withdraw that invitation at any time for any reason, or for no reason. If they want to ban you, they can. And if you continue your behaviour, they certainly will.

Exactly. But it will be a illogical reason to ban me because of trolling.

BTW Even if it is not privately owned, they can ban me just because they want to ban me. If you have the power you can do anything. Even if it is unfair.

[gvozd]

Originally Posted by runner pat

in·sult/inˈsəlt/
Verb:
Speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse.
Noun:
A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action.
Synonyms:
verb. offend - affront - outrage - abuse - hurt - injure
noun. affront - offence - offense - outrage - abuse - indignity

Paranoid:

Definition of paranoid
adjective

characterized by or suffering from the mental condition of paranoia: paranoid schizophrenia
unreasonably or obsessively anxious, suspicious, or mistrustful: you think I’m paranoid but I tell you there is something going on

Delusional:

noun

an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder: the delusion of being watched
[mass noun] the action of deluding or the state of being deluded: what a capacity television has for delusion

As you can see, they are not insults. NOT AT ALL. Moreover I am very polite person. Even if you insult me, I will be still polite. Yes, some cases might drive me mad but they are rare.

[Colibri]

Originally Posted by gvozd

At long last! Yes, I really did not know that.

Now, I can say Colibri is mistaken to claim that I pretend "not knowing". I really did not know.

Even if this is true, phrasing the question as vaginal looseness being a way to tell if your wife has been cheating on you with an African would be trolling in itself.

Exactly. But it will be a illogical reason to ban me because of trolling.

If you don't want to be banned, then you need to be much more careful about what you post here. You claim not to be familiar with American cultural norms. Therefore you should think about what you post very carefully in case it might be offensive. Stick to less volatile and provocative subjects than race, sex, or religion for awhile. Don't post the first thing that pops into your head.

BTW Even if it is not privately owned, they can ban me just because they want to ban me. If you have the power you can do anything. Even if it is unfair.

For the record, just about every troll we've ever had here has claimed that they were being treated unfairly and persecuted by the mods and other posters.

We would prefer not to ban anyone. However, if you want to continue to post here you're going to have to adjust your posting style.

[Colibri]

Originally Posted by gvozd

As you can see, they are not insults.

They are regarded as insults in America, and on this board. Don't use them against other posters except in the Pit, or you will receive a warning for it. I hope this is clear enough for you.

[John Mace]

Originally Posted by gvozd

Paranoid:



Delusional:



As you can see, they are not insults. NOT AT ALL. Moreover I am very polite person. Even if you insult me, I will be still polite. Yes, some cases might drive me mad but they are rare.

Are you seriously telling us that, in Turkey, if you tell someone you think they are mentally ill, that's not an insult?

You are crazy.
You are an idiot.
You're nuts.
You're lazy.
You're ugly.

All insults. I don't think that's a cultural thing.

[gvozd]

Originally Posted by John Mace

Are you seriously telling us that, in Turkey, if you tell someone you think they are mentally ill, that's not an insult?

You are crazy.
You are an idiot.
You're nuts.
You're lazy.
You're ugly.

All insults. I don't think that's a cultural thing.

There is a big difference between "crazy, idiot, nuts" and "delusional, paranoid".

The second ones suggest you might consider to check your mental state or seeing a doctor. And, the reason to say first ones to someone is only to cause unpleasant emotions to him.

If a doctor said one had a mental illness, would he/she be offended? Would you be offended?

[John DiFool]

Originally Posted by John Mace

In my country, delusional is normal. Is not insult. Sister is delusional, mother is delusional. Is sad day all over American countryland when delusional become insult.

Me from Bizarroland too!

[Colibri]

Originally Posted by gvozd

If a doctor said one had a mental illness, would he/she be offended? Would you be offended?

You're not a doctor. Nothing in elbows' post gave the least evidence of delusions or paranoia. If someone who was not a doctor told me I had a mental illness when I showed no sign of any symptoms, yes, I would be offended.

I don't really think your grasp of English is this poor.

[John Mace]

Originally Posted by gvozd

There is a big difference between "crazy, idiot, nuts" and "delusional, paranoid".

No, there isn't

The second ones suggest you might consider to check your mental state or seeing a doctor. And, the reason to say first ones to someone is only to cause unpleasant emotions to him.

If a doctor said one had a mental illness, would he/she be offended? Would you be offended?

You didn't answer the question. In Turkey, if you say someone is delusional or paranoid, is that not an insult?

[gvozd]

Originally Posted by John Mace

No, there isn't

There is!

Originally Posted by John Mace

You didn't answer the question. In Turkey, if you say someone is delusional or paranoid, is that not an insult?

It depends on how they take it, which does not change the fact that they are not insult.

[John Mace]

Originally Posted by gvozd

...they are not insult.

You keep fighting the good fight, there zod. You might win!

[TubaDiva]

I have seen sufficient, thankyouverymuch.

[Colibri]

After discussion by the moderators, the OP has been banned for trolling.

This is closed.