The Straight Dope

Go Back   Straight Dope Message Board > Main > Cafe Society

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #101  
Old 02-10-2017, 01:33 PM
AHunter3 AHunter3 is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: NY (Manhattan) NY USA
Posts: 18,069
I remember these:

1994: The Giver by Lois Lowry(Houghton)

1968: From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler by E.L. Konigsburg (Atheneum)

1964: It's Like This, Cat by Emily Neville (Harper)

1963: A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle (Farrar)

1959: The Witch of Blackbird Pond by Elizabeth George Speare (Houghton)

1948: The Twenty-One Balloons by William Pène du Bois (Viking)

1931: The Cat Who Went to Heaven by Elizabeth Coatsworth (Macmillan)

1922: The Story of Mankind by Hendrik Willem van Loon (Liveright)


There were others that I definitely read but they didn't leave much of an impression, apparently —can't recall anything about them.


I concur that Wrinkle is the all-time winner; I also liked It's like this, Cat and The Twenty-One Balloons and The Cat Who Went to Heaven.
Reply With Quote
Advertisements  
  #102  
Old 02-10-2017, 02:25 PM
Lochdale Lochdale is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 3,390
The High King was terrific.

In fact, the entire series is still worth a read.
Reply With Quote
  #103  
Old 02-10-2017, 02:45 PM
Dung Beetle Dung Beetle is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 14,761
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul Brother Number Two View Post
Whoa, Bless the Beasts and the Children was a children's book? That... is a very heavy book. I'm almost positive it was shelved in the adult section in my home town library when I was a kid.
Yeah, I wondered if that could possibly be the same book I was thinking of! Even in the Reader's Digest Condensed version I read, it's not really kid stuff.
Reply With Quote
  #104  
Old 02-10-2017, 09:17 PM
Green Bean Green Bean is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
The Westing Game, followed closely by The Twenty-One Balloons.

I'm not surprised to see that so many of you appreciate the genius of The Westing Game, but I'm a little surprised to see so little mention of The Twenty-One Balloons. It's such a cool story, and all steampunk science fictioney! (though of course the concept of "steampunk" didn't exist when it was written or when I was a kid)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsgoddess View Post
I think I'm going to make a point of trying to read through this list. Join me if you're feeling brave!
Dude. I'm so in.
Reply With Quote
  #105  
Old 02-10-2017, 10:37 PM
jsgoddess jsgoddess is online now
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Bean View Post
Dude. I'm so in.
Woo!

I was just going to read pretty randomly, but I'm happy to do something more structured if that would be more fun.
Reply With Quote
  #106  
Old 02-10-2017, 10:53 PM
CelticKnot CelticKnot is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: May 2016
From the Mixed up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler hands down. I loved it as a kid, rereading a few times, and I love doing it as a read-aloud with middle school students. Some aspects of it I never picked up until I bought a teacher's guide to use with 5th graders, so there are many layers and clues sprinkled throughout, and you get more each time you read it.
Just reading (or typing) the title Number the Stars gives me goosebumps.
I loved reading mysteries after reading "What Mrs. McGillicuddy Saw" in 6th grade, so I like the ones with mysteries. Holes and The Westing Game came after I grew up, but I still enjoy them. I read the The Giver and the rest of the series later and liked them.

Most overrated? I had to read Flora & Ulysses for a class for my M.Ed., and I really didn't care for it at all.

Last edited by CelticKnot; 02-10-2017 at 10:54 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #107  
Old 02-11-2017, 10:44 AM
Dendarii Dame Dendarii Dame is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: May 2011
You know, maybe I'll go back and read the ones I've missed. (Although Crispin: Cross of Lead is going to be tough.)
Reply With Quote
  #108  
Old 02-11-2017, 11:36 AM
Green Bean Green Bean is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsgoddess View Post
Woo!

I was just going to read pretty randomly, but I'm happy to do something more structured if that would be more fun.
I was thinking about going pretty randomly too. I definitely don't want to go in date order because I'm a little concerned that the really old ones would be a bit tedious.

I've certain I've read 15 of them. Anything I'm uncertain about, I'll re-read.

Do you have any thoughts? How many have you read?
Reply With Quote
  #109  
Old 02-11-2017, 03:11 PM
Left Hand of Dorkness Left Hand of Dorkness is online now
Guest
 
Join Date: May 1999
Quote:
Originally Posted by CelticKnot View Post
Most overrated? I had to read Flora & Ulysses for a class for my M.Ed., and I really didn't care for it at all.
Interesting. It's not my favorite of Di Camillio by a long shot, but as I said earlier, by five-year-old flippin adored it. When Di Camillio came to speak at a local bookstore, my daughter really really wanted to get her copy signed, and when it turned out that the line was insane (like, hadn't noticeably moved in 45 minutes, and we were in the back), she broke down sobbing.
Reply With Quote
  #110  
Old 02-11-2017, 03:30 PM
jsgoddess jsgoddess is online now
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Bean View Post
I was thinking about going pretty randomly too. I definitely don't want to go in date order because I'm a little concerned that the really old ones would be a bit tedious.

I've certain I've read 15 of them. Anything I'm uncertain about, I'll re-read.

Do you have any thoughts? How many have you read?
I've read 16.

1. 2009: The Graveyard Book by Neil Gaiman, illus. by Dave McKean (HarperCollins)
2. 2004: The Tale of Despereaux: Being the Story of a Mouse, a Princess, Some Soup, and a Spool of Thread by Kate DiCamillo (Candlewick Press)
3. 2003: Crispin: The Cross of Lead by Avi (Hyperion Books for Children)
4. 2000: Bud, Not Buddy by Christopher Paul Curtis (Delacorte)
5. 1999: Holes by Louis Sachar (Frances Foster)
6. 1997: The View from Saturday by E.L. Konigsburg (Jean Karl/Atheneum)
7. 1986: Sarah, Plain and Tall by Patricia MacLachlan (Harper)
8. 1983: Dicey's Song by Cynthia Voigt (Atheneum)
9. 1979: The Westing Game by Ellen Raskin (Dutton)
10. 1978: Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson (Crowell)
11. 1976: The Grey King by Susan Cooper (McElderry/Atheneum)
12. 1969: The High King by Lloyd Alexander (Holt)
13. 1968: From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler by E.L. Konigsburg (Atheneum)
14. 1963: A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle (Farrar)
15. 1959: The Witch of Blackbird Pond by Elizabeth George Speare (Houghton)
16. 1949: King of the Wind by Marguerite Henry (Rand McNally)

I don't remember The View from Saturday, so that's a reread for me.
Reply With Quote
  #111  
Old 02-11-2017, 06:13 PM
Green Bean Green Bean is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Funny how little overlap there is in our lists!

I downgraded myself to 14 that I'm certain I've read - and 10 of those I'm only sure because I re-read them as an adult. Anyway, here's mine:

1999: Holes by Louis Sachar (Frances Foster)
1994: The Giver by Lois Lowry(Houghton)
1989: Joyful Noise: Poems for Two Voices by Paul Fleischman (Harper)
1984: Dear Mr. Henshaw by Beverly Cleary (Morrow)
1981: Jacob Have I Loved by Katherine Paterson (Crowell)
1979: The Westing Game by Ellen Raskin (Dutton)
1978: Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson (Crowell)
1975: M. C. Higgins, the Great by Virginia Hamilton (Macmillan)
1972: Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH by Robert C. O'Brien (Atheneum)
1968: From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler by E.L. Konigsburg (Atheneum)
1963: A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle (Farrar)
1961: Island of the Blue Dolphins by Scott O'Dell (Houghton)
1948: The Twenty-One Balloons by William Pène du Bois (Viking)
1944: Johnny Tremain by Esther Forbes (Houghton)

Today at the library, I picked up The Graveyard Book, Maniac Magee, and Caddie Woodlawn.* I tried to spread the choices out over eras and only pick things where they had multiple copies. I also got Number the Stars, Strawberry Girl, and The Voyages of Dr. Doolittle on Kindle Unlimited. So I am good to go!


* I'm 98% sure I read this as a kid. It was definitely on my shelf and I read everything I could get my hands on. I don't remember a damn thing about it though.
Reply With Quote
  #112  
Old 02-11-2017, 06:19 PM
gkster gkster is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: May 2012
I re-counted my total and it's actually up to 51, which means I still have over 40 to go. And then after that there's the Honor books to move on to, and as we know from Charlotte's Web, some of the Honor books are even better.

So count me in with jsgoddess and Green Bean as wanting to keep on reading. And thanks to this thread I know a few that I plan to find (as opposed to just randomly picking up any of the titles that happened to be on the library shelves as I did last summer)
Dicey's Song; It's Like This, Cat; King of the Wind; Maniac Magee; Flora and Ulysses.

Ukelele Ike, LOL, great summary of Voyages of Doctor Doolittle! It was one of my childhood favorites. Anyone who wants read it online, it's here. The html version has all the original illustrations :-) http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1154
Warning, it uses the n-word twice, spoken by the parrot Polynesia.

Thanks to all for the comments on The Westing Game, which make me want to reread it when I get a chance. They also made me realize a reason I didn't get into it: chess. I'm not exactly a chess hater but I was forced to play it as a child and I could never get my brain around it well enough to plan the moves and win, so it brings back memories of frustration.

I looked up Ellen Raskin and sadly she died relatively young, aged 56. She was also an illustrator and graphic artist and created book jackets for over 1000 books including the first edition of A Wrinkle in Time:
https://ccbc.education.wisc.edu/auth...in/wrinkle.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #113  
Old 02-11-2017, 09:20 PM
Ulf the Unwashed Ulf the Unwashed is online now
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul Brother Number Two View Post
Whoa, Bless the Beasts and the Children was a children's book? That... is a very heavy book. I'm almost positive it was shelved in the adult section in my home town library when I was a kid.

Anyone ever seen the movie?
Not a Newbery Award winner, or an honor book either. Unless I'm seriously missing something!

gkster, glad to hear you enjoyed the writing workshop with L'Engle. Here's my "connection" with her. My wife, as a primary school student, attended a K-12 school in NYC. L'Engle taught in the high school there. My wife still has her yearbook from third grade or whatever. L'Engle is pictured on the English Department page. She is identified, however, not as "Madeline L'Engle" but rather as "Mrs. Hugh Franklin." !!!

Okay, that's not much of a connection at all, but I actually do have a vague connection with another Newbery winner, Nancy Willard (a Visit to William Blake's Inn, one of the few picture books to win the award). She lives about two blocks from me, or did until recently, and I would occasionally see her riding her bike around town. She and I were also adjunct professors in the same department of the same college for a brief while. --Though we know many people in common, the only time I actually ever formally met her was when I had a book signing at a local store (none of my books have ever been nominated for a Newbery; you have almost certainly never heard of any of them) and she came in and bought a copy. It remains the only time I have knowingly inscribed one of my books to a Newbery Award winner. Quite cool.

Oh, one more vaguer connection: I gave a talk about children's literature last year as part of a lecture series named for a woman who edited/published three early Newbery winners. Reflected glory!
Reply With Quote
  #114  
Old 02-11-2017, 09:29 PM
jsgoddess jsgoddess is online now
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ulf the Unwashed View Post
Okay, that's not much of a connection at all, but I actually do have a vague connection with another Newbery winner, Nancy Willard (a Visit to William Blake's Inn, one of the few picture books to win the award).
I know one of the winners. Not well, and we've lost touch in the past few years. I'm ashamed to say I haven't actually read her book, because I'm dumb.
Reply With Quote
  #115  
Old 02-11-2017, 09:53 PM
RivkahChaya RivkahChaya is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmkeller View Post
Wow, am I really the first poster to say "The Westing Game"? I love that book, and could read it over and over. So many layers to the mystery, such interesting personalities, such unusual story structure...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mahaloth View Post
:hangs head in shame:

I did not check the list before posting.

The Giver is great, but I failed to realize the Westing Game had won the award. The Westing Game is one of my favorite novels ever published and is clearly the best Newberry winner.

I can not recommend the Westing Game enough.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmkeller View Post
gkster:



1) The characters have hidden selves that grow and are revealed, naturally, over the course of the book.
2) The character of Judge Ford trying to desperately beat Sam Westing in his ultimate chess game from (what she thinks, at least throughout most of the book) beyond the grave. Heck, the whole chess theme quietly underlying the book...it was many re-readings before I realized that the 16 heirs = 16 pieces per side on a chess board.
3) The subtle connections that are there to be discovered throughout the book.
4) The mystery of the genuine answer to Sam Westing's puzzle, and the brilliant misdirection. It's there for the reader to solve, but the reader never sees it coming.
5) The poignant aftermath chapters

It's a brilliant book that benefits from re-reading, because you pick up new pieces that you realize you missed with every re-read. This book is not so much written as woven from character threads, into a beautiful tapestry.
The Westing Game taught me literary exegesis. The idea that a character did something because of something that had happened a long time ago, without the author having to point it out to you was a new idea. The characters' actions and motivations are so entwined, and untangling them was a delight. I read the book cover to cover, staying up until 2am when I was 11. I read it cover to cover again a couple of weeks later. I must have read that book 20 times in the next couple of years, and once or twice a year for the next several years. I still read it every now and again, and I'm 50.

When I was 11, I gave it to my mother, and she also read it cover to cover. She was 38.

If you have read The Westing Game, but not read Ellen Raskin's book The Tattooed Potato and Other Clues, you should. I think it was Newberry nominated. It preceded The Westing Game by a few years. I think it's equally as good. If The Westing Game is PG-rated, then The Tattooed Potato and Other Clues is PG-13, which is maybe why is lost the award, albeit, my 5th grade teacher read it to us, and no one freaked out-- IIRC, everyone loved it. I figured out a small point, and blurted it out, and the teacher accused me of having read the book before, and spoiling it, but I'd really just figured it out. It was a small part. But it got the class buzzing, and from that point, trying to figure out the book, instead of just waiting for more.

Ellen Raskin was a special kind of genius, and it was tragic that she died so young.
Reply With Quote
  #116  
Old 02-11-2017, 09:58 PM
jsgoddess jsgoddess is online now
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Bean View Post
Today at the library, I picked up The Graveyard Book, Maniac Magee, and Caddie Woodlawn.* I tried to spread the choices out over eras and only pick things where they had multiple copies. I also got Number the Stars, Strawberry Girl, and The Voyages of Dr. Doolittle on Kindle Unlimited. So I am good to go!
Right now, I'm looking to see what the library has downloadable. It's looking pretty good so far. I'm reading a sample of The Story of Mankind because the it's checked out. It's a 1922 story of human evolution, which surprised me!

If your library does overdrive, use "Emily Cheney Neville" when you look for It's Like This, Cat.
Reply With Quote
  #117  
Old 02-11-2017, 11:02 PM
Thudlow Boink Thudlow Boink is online now
Charter Member
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Lincoln, IL
Posts: 22,610
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsgoddess View Post
I'm reading a sample of The Story of Mankind because the it's checked out. It's a 1922 story of human evolution, which surprised me!
Isn't 1922 in the public domain?
Reply With Quote
  #118  
Old 02-11-2017, 11:12 PM
Green Bean Green Bean is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
I'm halfway through Caddie Woodlawn already. I did read it when I was a kid, but it's certainly worth the re-read.

When I was looking around on Amazon, I was surprised to see how few of the earlier Newbery books were available on Kindle, and many seem to be out of print completely. I'm interested to see how the older books stack up overall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RivkahChaya View Post
If you have read The Westing Game, but not read Ellen Raskin's book The Tattooed Potato and Other Clues, you should. I think it was Newberry nominated. It preceded The Westing Game by a few years. I think it's equally as good.
Not even close! But it's damn good and I've read it many times.


gkster: I can't stand chess. Never could. It didn't interfere with my enjoyment of The Westing Game one bit. I think it's the kind of book that just resonates with some people and not others. My son didn't like it much. Maybe when you re-read it now, you'll enjoy it more.
Reply With Quote
  #119  
Old 02-12-2017, 01:59 AM
gkster gkster is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: May 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ulf the Unwashed View Post
gkster, glad to hear you enjoyed the writing workshop with L'Engle. Here's my "connection" with her. My wife, as a primary school student, attended a K-12 school in NYC. L'Engle taught in the high school there. My wife still has her yearbook from third grade or whatever. L'Engle is pictured on the English Department page. She is identified, however, not as "Madeline L'Engle" but rather as "Mrs. Hugh Franklin." !!!

Okay, that's not much of a connection at all, but I actually do have a vague connection with another Newbery winner, Nancy Willard (a Visit to William Blake's Inn, one of the few picture books to win the award). She lives about two blocks from me, or did until recently, and I would occasionally see her riding her bike around town. She and I were also adjunct professors in the same department of the same college for a brief while. --Though we know many people in common, the only time I actually ever formally met her was when I had a book signing at a local store (none of my books have ever been nominated for a Newbery; you have almost certainly never heard of any of them) and she came in and bought a copy. It remains the only time I have knowingly inscribed one of my books to a Newbery Award winner. Quite cool.

Oh, one more vaguer connection: I gave a talk about children's literature last year as part of a lecture series named for a woman who edited/published three early Newbery winners. Reflected glory!
Those are 3 cool connections! About the "Mrs Hugh Franklin", I remember an older NYC schoolteacher talking about the bad old days when married female teachers were looked at with suspicion (supposedly they would be too preoccupied with their husbands and children to give enough attention to teaching) and were forced to stop teaching when their pregnancies stated showing.

There's a substantial preview of Nancy Willard's A Visit to William Blake's Inn available on Amazon and I'd like to get hold of the whole book. Really cool that she bought your book and had you sign it!


I just read Maniac Magee on my library's Overdrive and see why it's a favorite. I don't remember when I last cried so much when reading a YA book--probably when reading Walk Two Moons or Bridge to Terabithia or Out of the Dust. Or Johnny Tremain?

Last edited by gkster; 02-12-2017 at 02:00 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #120  
Old 02-12-2017, 02:11 AM
RivkahChaya RivkahChaya is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Bean View Post
Not even close! But it's damn good and I've read it many times.


gkster: I can't stand chess. Never could. It didn't interfere with my enjoyment of The Westing Game one bit. I think it's the kind of book that just resonates with some people and not others. My son didn't like it much. Maybe when you re-read it now, you'll enjoy it more.
Ah, well. I'm from New York, and I slightly remember the tail of the beatnik era, when it was set. So that resonates with me. I also like art. And I'm proud of myself for figuring out that one little detail.

SPOILER:
I figured out that the tattooed sailor was Garson in disguise, because he asked Dickory about the blind man's earring to trick her. The blind man didn't wear an earring. Then she remembered later that the sailor had worn an earring. It was unusual for men to wear earrings then, bear in mind. Anyway, I thought, "How did Garson know he could confuse her-- how did he know she'd seen an earring earlier that day? He must have been disguised as the sailor! He'd been testing disguises for a while after all. I got chills down my spine, and blurted out "Garson was the tattooed sailor!"
Reply With Quote
  #121  
Old 02-12-2017, 10:10 AM
jsgoddess jsgoddess is online now
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsgoddess View Post
I've read 16.

1. 2009: The Graveyard Book by Neil Gaiman, illus. by Dave McKean (HarperCollins)
2. 2004: The Tale of Despereaux: Being the Story of a Mouse, a Princess, Some Soup, and a Spool of Thread by Kate DiCamillo (Candlewick Press)
3. 2003: Crispin: The Cross of Lead by Avi (Hyperion Books for Children)
4. 2000: Bud, Not Buddy by Christopher Paul Curtis (Delacorte)
5. 1999: Holes by Louis Sachar (Frances Foster)
6. 1997: The View from Saturday by E.L. Konigsburg (Jean Karl/Atheneum)
7. 1986: Sarah, Plain and Tall by Patricia MacLachlan (Harper)
8. 1983: Dicey's Song by Cynthia Voigt (Atheneum)
9. 1979: The Westing Game by Ellen Raskin (Dutton)
10. 1978: Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson (Crowell)
11. 1976: The Grey King by Susan Cooper (McElderry/Atheneum)
12. 1969: The High King by Lloyd Alexander (Holt)
13. 1968: From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler by E.L. Konigsburg (Atheneum)
14. 1963: A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle (Farrar)
15. 1959: The Witch of Blackbird Pond by Elizabeth George Speare (Houghton)
16. 1949: King of the Wind by Marguerite Henry (Rand McNally)

I don't remember The View from Saturday, so that's a reread for me.
I lied. Looks like I've read 17. I've also read Up a Road Slowly. I didn't recognize the title. I remember the book somewhat. I think I'll add it to the reread stack.
Reply With Quote
  #122  
Old 02-12-2017, 02:06 PM
RivkahChaya RivkahChaya is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
These are the ones I've read. The later ones, I mostly read because I took a course in Children's Lit in college, but the last one happened to catch my eye when I was shopping for a gift. It's really good.

I probably would have read more as a kid, but when I was young, I had the impression of Newbery books as downers, especially, any animal in a Newbery book wouldn't make it to the end.

I wish my spell check would stop telling me it's Newberry. Is "Newberry" a word? "New" and "berry" are, but "Newberry" together?

1922 Hendrik Willem van Loon The Story of Mankind

1923 Hugh Lofting The Voyages of Doctor Dolittle

1941 Armstrong Sperry Call It Courage

1950 Marguerite de Angeli The Door in the Wall

1959 Elizabeth George Speare The Witch of Blackbird Pond

1961 Scott O'Dell Island of the Blue Dolphins

1963 Madeleine L'Engle A Wrinkle in Time

1968 E. L. Konigsburg From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler

1972 Robert C. O'Brien Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH

1978 Katherine Paterson Bridge to Terabithia

1979 Ellen Raskin The Westing Game

1981 Katherine Paterson Jacob Have I Loved

1984 Beverly Cleary Dear Mr. Henshaw

1986 Patricia MacLachlan Sarah, Plain and Tall

1987 Sid Fleischman The Whipping Boy

1990 Lois Lowry Number the Stars

1996 Karen Cushman The Midwife's Apprentice

That's 17, about the same as everyone else. I've read several "honors" books to, but left them off the list, because it was just too long to deal with.

Last edited by RivkahChaya; 02-12-2017 at 02:09 PM.. Reason: formatting
Reply With Quote
  #123  
Old 02-12-2017, 02:46 PM
Green Bean Green Bean is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
I started a thread for those of us who are doing the reading list thing: The Newbery Book Club


In a bout of insomnia last night, I finished Caddie Woodlawn and got through Number the Stars. I'm into the Graveyard Book, which I'm enjoying a lot.


Quote:
Originally Posted by RivkahChaya View Post
Ah, well. I'm from New York, and I slightly remember the tail of the beatnik era, when it was set. So that resonates with me. I also like art. And I'm proud of myself for figuring out that one little detail.
I'm from New York too, and an artsy kid, and it resonated with me too. Just not as much as The Westing Game. Good spotting on that detail!
SPOILER:

I knew something was up with that guy and the other ones too, but I didn't put it together neatly like that upon first reading.
Reply With Quote
  #124  
Old 02-12-2017, 11:16 PM
Magicicada Magicicada is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
The epilogue of Island of the Blue Dolphins always destroyed me.

I always thought the appeal of Wrinkle in Time was the whole Dad really didn't leave us--he's being held prisoner on a distant planet, and I'm going to go rescue him.
Reply With Quote
  #125  
Old 02-13-2017, 12:32 AM
gkster gkster is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: May 2012
I just read Flora and Ulysses and have to say that I really preferred Kate DiCamillo's earlier work, Because of Winn-Dixie and Tale of Despereaux. The whimsical, quirky element in Flora and Ulysses seems overdone to me--it was present in Tale of Despereaux but I felt it fit in much better there. I can see why some people might love Flora and Ulysses (it did win the Newbery after all) but I also understand why others might strongly dislike it. I'm kind of in between myself--I didn't hate it but I didn't find that much in it to like.

Last edited by gkster; 02-13-2017 at 12:35 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #126  
Old 02-13-2017, 05:07 PM
gkster gkster is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: May 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magicicada View Post
The epilogue of Island of the Blue Dolphins always destroyed me.

I always thought the appeal of Wrinkle in Time was the whole Dad really didn't leave us--he's being held prisoner on a distant planet, and I'm going to go rescue him.
Yes, that epilogue is a killer, and I was always really disturbed by what happens to the little brother too--one reason why I haven't re-read the book in years.

And yes, I always loved the fact that the kids rescued their dad and that Meg rescued Charles Wallace too.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Send questions for Cecil Adams to: cecil@chicagoreader.com

Send comments about this website to: webmaster@straightdope.com

Terms of Use / Privacy Policy

Advertise on the Straight Dope!
(Your direct line to thousands of the smartest, hippest people on the planet, plus a few total dipsticks.)

Publishers - interested in subscribing to the Straight Dope?
Write to: sdsubscriptions@chicagoreader.com.

Copyright © 2017 Sun-Times Media, LLC.