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Old 02-02-2017, 10:10 PM
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Powerless: What if you lived in the DC Universe?

New show tonight called "Powerless". The premise is a group of inventors working for "Wayne Security", a subsidiary of Wayne Enterprises, that creates devices for regular people in a world with superheroes and villains.

I found it to be ok. I love the premise. At the start of the show, the train is derailed and everybody is saved by "Scarlet Fox" and the passengers are all bored because it happens. every. day.

I find that it maybe tried too hard to be quirky and funny. I find that shows are funny when they just are funny. I know, that's pretty zen (or meta). I'll definitely watch it again because sometimes pilot shows can be a significantly different than the remainder of the series.

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Old 02-02-2017, 11:31 PM
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Crimson Fox, who is actually a real DC superhero.

It was okay. I chuckled a bit. But I don't think it's going on regular rotation for me.
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Old 02-02-2017, 11:35 PM
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Crimson Fox, who is actually a real DC superhero.

It was okay. I chuckled a bit. But I don't think it's going on regular rotation for me.
I liked the ending, which I won't spoil in case somebody watches it. I thought that was pretty clever.

I'll give it a 2nd episode just to see if it was the pilot that was a little bit off. If it ends up not being that good after the 2nd episode, then it is out for me too. That would be too bad because I really like the premise.
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Old 02-03-2017, 01:15 AM
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Crimson Fox, who is actually a real DC superhero.
So's Van Wayne.
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Old 02-03-2017, 02:14 AM
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Jack O'Lantern, OTOH, is not a real villain.

He's a hero, so I'm not sure why they chose him to fight the Fox.

I liked it, it was fun. My only real problem is I can't see Bruce starting a company like this and not paying attention to it... Quite aside from the fact that it'd be a good source of bat-tech, it's creating the kind of tech he would want to have his eye on.
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Old 02-03-2017, 04:53 AM
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Old 02-03-2017, 05:18 AM
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At first I thought you were going to say they'd done a series based on normalman.
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Old 02-03-2017, 09:03 AM
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Apropos of nothing, but I'm very angry at Powerless.

I was a part of a panel that asked my opinion on the poster for this show before it premiered and they picked the WRONG ONE. I mean, my opinion was totally right, who are they to do the opposite of that?
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Old 02-03-2017, 09:29 AM
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Jack O'Lantern, OTOH, is not a real villain.

He's a hero, so I'm not sure why they chose him to fight the Fox.

I liked it, it was fun. My only real problem is I can't see Bruce starting a company like this and not paying attention to it... Quite aside from the fact that it'd be a good source of bat-tech, it's creating the kind of tech he would want to have his eye on.


Well, Daniel Cormac, the first Jack O'Lantern, did work for Queen Bee and Rumaan Harjavti (both villains) for awhile. Marvin Noronsa, the second Jack O'Lantern, also worked for Queen Bee.

I care too much about the Global Guardians.
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Old 02-03-2017, 09:58 AM
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I thought the concept was great, and the episode improved as it went on. Unfortunately, the callbacks were the best part of it; the actual comedy was only so-so.
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Old 02-03-2017, 10:24 AM
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Well, Daniel Cormac, the first Jack O'Lantern, did work for Queen Bee and Rumaan Harjavti (both villains) for awhile. Marvin Noronsa, the second Jack O'Lantern, also worked for Queen Bee.

I care too much about the Global Guardians.
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:53 PM
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My reaction was similar to the OP's: I was hoping for more of an early "Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." feel, and less camp. Much less camp (though no one does camp better than Alan Tudyk). I'll keep watching for now, though.
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Old 02-10-2017, 01:19 AM
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I hadn't heard about this but I'll check it out. Sounds like a good concept.

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Yes, actually, that is precisely what it is like to be powerless in the DCU. Having an alien facesucker control your body.

I suppose otherwise looking up and seeing trails of fire across the sky from the likes of Firehawk, or the odd Boom Tube explosion filling the air.
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Old 02-10-2017, 03:31 AM
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...wow. So they completely retooled this between the "first pilot" and the one they actually broadcast. For some insight into what Powerless used to be about read this:

http://www.polygon.com/tv/2017/2/3/1...iego-comic-con

I was looking forward to seeing the original concept: and while the retooled concept is "okay", the original idea sounded much more interesting and a lot "less safe". Oh well.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:56 AM
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We watched the second episode last night though we missed the pilot last week. I found it to be fairly blah; a workplace sitcom without really any outstanding characters but with the added bonus of getting to throw in DC character names.

It definitely does have potential and the actors are all likeable in it. I thought the idea of having a super hero fantasy team was very funny. Hopefully they find some footing with the characters and it solidifies.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:02 AM
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Jack O'Lantern, OTOH, is not a real villain.

He's a hero, so I'm not sure why they chose him to fight the Fox.
He might have been Eclipso'd. There's one split second, right before we see the tracks ripped up that kinda look like it.

That said, it's not DC's Jack O'Lantern's powerset. And ditto for Crimson Fox who's either a low-grade Batman or a low-grade Captain America, depending on who's writing her. Better than average agility and better than average (or very low-level super strength).

It felt like they REAAAAAAAAAALY wanted to do a Spider-Man/Green Goblin fight but couldn't because they're Marvel. But if you rewatch the fight, and imagine Spidey/Goblin in the obvious roles, it fits a whole lot better.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:32 AM
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Nevermind--I just saw the rest of the episode: he's not Eclipsed. But wouldn't that have been cool?

Couple o' thoughts:
1) It's trying waaaaaay too hard to be Parks & Recreation. What's her face--the woman who was hired this episode--is only missing binders to be Leslie from Parks and Rec.

2) Why wasn't the female scientist fired on the spot for the kind of totally workplace-inappropriate comments she was making to whasthername-Emily? The "I'm not going to do anything you waaaaaant" crack among other things were totally uncool. I understand the Rule of Funny but she wasn't funny, she was just a bitch.

3) I hate that they have a crapload of access to C and D list DC Characters, but don't bother using them. "Van Wayne"? Stupid idea. Why not use pre-Infinite Crisis Max Lord or Funky Flashman or a half-dozen other characters of that type?.

It's an ok show, but not great.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:34 AM
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There were some funny moments, but the big problem is that the lead is both too chirpy and too needy. She needs to tone that down a lot, especially since she isn't very good at it.*

OTOH, Christina Kirk as Jackie is worthy of a sitcom on her own. The fantasy superhero game was a great concept (but I don't want to see it every week; it will grow stale).

Alas, though, the R&D is an inferior version of the R&D in Better Off Ted.

*I've been watching Don't Trust the B---- in Apartment 23, which has a similar main character, but the actress knows how to play that sort of part.
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Old 02-10-2017, 11:35 AM
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3) I hate that they have a crapload of access to C and D list DC Characters, but don't bother using them. "Van Wayne"? Stupid idea. Why not use pre-Infinite Crisis Max Lord or Funky Flashman or a half-dozen other characters of that type?.

It's an ok show, but not great.
It's NBC. Wayne is recognizable, allows them to drop Bruce Wayne's name, and then Van has instant character recognition to all, not just comic fans. The others - not so much. It's not as much an issue with just name-dropping heroes and villains, as that is specifically for the super-fans.

That said, I agree - OK, but not great. I'll keep watching because (a) it is on after Superstore and (b) I'm a sucker for superhero shows, even (most) bad ones. Superhero shows have a lower bar to clear to keep my interest.

RealityChuck, making R&D more like Better Off Ted would make this shine much, much more. Even better if they could get Lem and Phil to reprise their roles, but alas, both have steady gigs.

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Old 02-10-2017, 11:43 AM
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Haven't seen it but the description reminds me of "Live Sprites", a long defunct webcomic about ordinary citizens of Paragon City.
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Old 02-10-2017, 12:49 PM
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Couple o' thoughts:
3) I hate that they have a crapload of access to C and D list DC Characters, but don't bother using them. "Van Wayne"? Stupid idea.
See post 4.
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Old 02-10-2017, 02:50 PM
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Personally, I'm dropping the show. I try not to judge a show too much from the pilot because pilots can be odd. But the second episode just wasn't funny to me. Too bad I really like the premise. The article linked to by Banquet Bear makes me really sad they didn't go in that direction because that sounds like the show I would have wanted. Oh well.
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Old 02-10-2017, 03:32 PM
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Yep. I was hoping for more from this show. I love all the actors, Pudi and Tudyk especially. But this is just another "office" show. I'll give it two more episodes, and see if it pulls itself out.
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Old 02-10-2017, 03:32 PM
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I thought both episodes were really funny, although I wish it would focus on Jackie, not Emily.
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Old 02-13-2017, 04:49 AM
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Yeah, it's almost good. It's definitely trying. But it doesn't quite get there on any level at all. Every aspect is at about 80%, the worst being the scripts not actually being funny. Mugging for the camera and talking fast isn't going to mask that.
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Old 02-13-2017, 11:04 AM
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I think it's cute and has a decent amount of talent on I so I am going to keep going.
Also, not that this is a reason to watch but I love the opening credits.
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Old 02-16-2017, 09:33 PM
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The episode tonight was a big leap forward. I laughed out loud several times, especially with the exchange (roughly):

Van's father: You're nothing but a piece of poop. You can't even swim.
Van: I can float.

The opening sequence was great, and I loved "Our friend the tuna."

Hopefully, they'll manage to keep at this level.
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Old 02-17-2017, 12:46 AM
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I'm wondering if the writers are Global Guardians fans, or if that's who DC let them use.

Crimson Fox, Jack O'Lantern, Olympian, Fire and Ice slated to show up later...
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Old Yesterday, 07:57 AM
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Random comments on this week's:

Great callback to Van's comic origin, making him a Robin-wannabe.
That is a terrible, terrible batarang design. (Better than the computer-controlled 'rang from Batman and Robin, but still, terrible.)
From multiple aspects of the episode, it appears Charm City is in the same general neighbourhood as Gotham and Bludhaven. I'd been assuming it was on the West Coast, with Bruce (or probably Lucius) trying to get Van as far away from himself as possible.
Why does Riddler of all people have a moon-laser?

... Did Keith Flint just mug Van, Teddy, and Ron?
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Old Yesterday, 08:07 AM
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Also, I just did a check to see if maybe Flint did do the cameo (can't find a credit for the mugger, so...still no clue), and read an episode review...and wasn't sure whether to facepalm or crack up at someone complaining that this episode was 'the closest we'll get to a real DC hero or villain' appearing...when it's the first episode of the series where one hasn't.
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Old Yesterday, 08:23 AM
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Why does Riddler of all people have a moon-laser?
Beats the hell out of skywriting if you're penning prominent hints?
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