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Old 01-05-2017, 02:55 PM
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I looked through Steve Barron's filmography on IMDb, and there's no entry for directing the Steppin' Out video. Maybe the experience was so tragic that everyone burned the records.

Steve Barron directed the Take On Me video, the Bille Jean video, and the movie Electric Dreams. What a guy!

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Old 01-05-2017, 03:33 PM
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I looked through Steve Barron's filmography on IMDb, and there's no entry for directing the Steppin' Out video. Maybe the experience was so tragic that everyone burned the records.

Steve Barron directed the Take On Me video, the Bille Jean video, and the movie Electric Dreams. What a guy!
Don't canonize him yet. He never did answer my e-mail.
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Old 01-05-2017, 04:50 PM
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I still say she's Cynthia Rhodes, who was the dancer in another 1982 music video directed by Steve Barron: Rosanna.
You might be onto something here. There are some good, clear shots of the dancer's left ear in both videos. Ear structure is a significant identifier and it sure looks like a match to my untrained eyes.
Although it's strange that her IMDB entry mentions Rosanna, and not Steppin' Out.

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Old 01-05-2017, 06:10 PM
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Old 01-05-2017, 06:28 PM
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Yeah, boy. That's looking kinda likely.
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Old 01-06-2017, 12:41 AM
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I think it's Cynthia Rhodes too. She was doing music videos in the early '80s.
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Old 01-06-2017, 01:09 AM
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Here is Cynthia in Dirty Dancing. She has the same brown eyes as the girl in the video:

https://images.search.yahoo.com/imag...ee&fr2=piv-web
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Old 01-06-2017, 01:12 AM
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Okay, who's going to contact Cynthia Rhodes and ask her?
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Old 01-06-2017, 08:38 AM
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It's hard to get a look at her. Joe keeps getting in the way.

I'm leaning towards Pam Smart as well. I'll see if my Google-fu is any better than anyone else's.
It's not Pam Smart. I can say that with 100% certainty.
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Old 01-06-2017, 09:12 AM
Earl Snake-Hips Tucker Earl Snake-Hips Tucker is offline
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Well, there's a fan site facebook page about Cynthia. If the page's admin is a big fan, possibly he/she might be able to give some direction as to the likelihood.
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Old 01-06-2017, 12:33 PM
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Well, there's a fan site facebook page about Cynthia. If the page's admin is a big fan, possibly he/she might be able to give some direction as to the likelihood.
I already found that page. Says he's not affiliated with her in any way, so I don't know that he'd have any better info than the rest of us.

I was thinking more in terms of finding out who used to be Ms. Rhodes's agent, or do publicity for her. If they're still in the biz, they might know.
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Old 01-06-2017, 01:46 PM
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Judging by her IMDb page, Ms. Rhodes has retired from show business. No agent or contact information.
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Old 01-06-2017, 06:31 PM
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What have we done? The video in the OP, which has been up on Youtube for over five years, has now been blocked by Sony Music.

Still, do people really think this woman looks like Cynthia Rhodes? I don't see a resemblance.
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Old 01-06-2017, 06:39 PM
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What have we done? The video in the OP, which has been up on Youtube for over five years, has now been blocked by Sony Music.
Here it is from Joe Jackson's VEVO account, so presumably safer from a copyright claim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJwt2dxx9yg
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Old 01-06-2017, 08:48 PM
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Still, do people really think this woman looks like Cynthia Rhodes? I don't see a resemblance.
She's wearing a lot of makeup and the lighting could be better, but yes, I think that woman and this woman are one and the same.

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Old 01-07-2017, 12:51 AM
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Yep, Cynthia Rhodes is MHO.
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Old 01-07-2017, 04:50 AM
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I was thinking more in terms of finding out who used to be Ms. Rhodes's agent, or do publicity for her. If they're still in the biz, they might know.
Richard Marx is on Twitter. If anyone's willing to ask him about his ex...
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Old 01-07-2017, 06:23 AM
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Nope. This is Marg Helgenberger in 1982. Look at her nose. Then look at the nose of the woman in the video...
You never get a clear front view of the woman's nose in the video, only her profile. And it isn't digital, so the quality leaves to be desired...

I still think it's Marg. Unfortunately I cannot post some stills of the video that made me think so.

There are photo's of Cynthia Rhodes (profile) on the internet:
http://www.nctc.net/hazard/marx/cynthia/media/
I don't think it's the same nose as the woman in the Joe Jackson video...

Marg is on twitter... Anyone here on twitter too?
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Old 01-07-2017, 08:49 AM
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You never get a clear front view of the woman's nose in the video, only her profile. And it isn't digital, so the quality leaves to be desired...

I still think it's Marg. Unfortunately I cannot post some stills of the video that made me think so.

There are photo's of Cynthia Rhodes (profile) on the internet:
http://www.nctc.net/hazard/marx/cynthia/media/
I don't think it's the same nose as the woman in the Joe Jackson video...

Marg is on twitter... Anyone here on twitter too?
Oh good; it's not just me.

I don't think it's Cynthia Rhodes. The woman in the video has a clearly upturned "pert" nose; Miss Rhodes (is she still "Miss Rhodes" even tho she was married to Richard Marx?) does not have an upturned "pert" nose.
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Old 01-07-2017, 10:29 AM
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I completely agree (I didn't know the American-English term).

But with age (mid thirties) the tip of the nose drops somewhat, so an upturned nose becomes more straight.

Whoever she is, 35 years have passed...

The maid at first does seem to look different, but when comparing stills and pictures (or stills of Marg) it's clear that both have the eyes a little bit farther apart and both have high cheekbones.

When the lyrics ''You can dress in pink and blue just like a child'' are sung, in the split second before the actress starts laughing she has the exact same mannerism Marg has (I don't know how to call it). That's why I thought it was her the first time I saw the video.
So I still think it's Marg.

But I guess I'm the only one who thinks it's her...or who thinks it could be her?
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Old 01-08-2017, 11:56 PM
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Well, there's a fan site facebook page about Cynthia. If the page's admin is a big fan, possibly he/she might be able to give some direction as to the likelihood.
I bit the bullet and posted the question on that page. Let's see what happens.
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Old 01-09-2017, 12:27 AM
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Hey! It's Mrs. Bevin, from the lake!!
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No, just kidding.
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Old 02-11-2017, 01:04 AM
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Jessica Lange?

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Old 02-11-2017, 12:16 PM
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I found a Pop Up Video transcript and even it doesn't ID her (just refers to her as "Actress") and that was probably written and researched just 10 years or so after the video came out...
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Old 02-11-2017, 05:44 PM
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I found a Pop Up Video transcript and even it doesn't ID her (just refers to her as "Actress") and that was probably written and researched just 10 years or so after the video came out...
Hence we can rule out anybody remotely famous. E.g., Jessica Lange. (Plus she was in Frances and Tootsie in 1982. She was really well known then.)

It's not that hard to find cites to Nichole Kidman appearing in Bop Girl. And that's quite obscure.
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Old 02-11-2017, 07:11 PM
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Sez one of the YouTube comments: "The girl in this video went on to play the medical examiner in Inspector Morse."
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A commenter on the Vevo video said it was a different medical examiner in Inspector Morse -- Amanda Hillwood. She doesn't seem to have the nose of the maid, but Hillwood has a mole/beauty mark/something to the left of her lip that the maid might have. The video's in low resolution, but I can convince myself I see the bump in a few of the shots.

However, I would guess the maid is left-handed, based on her cleaning the mantle and ashtray (filmed in a mirror), grabbing the glass on Joe's dresser, and spinning clockwise in her room. Hillwood isn't. So, I've no clue. Sorry!
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Old 02-11-2017, 11:22 PM
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that maid

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All of these ladies bear a strong resemblance, but I don't think we've found her yet.
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Ah, well....perhaps some things are not meant to be known.
That is not Cynthia Rhodes if you all would get on Google and type in pics of Cynthia Rhodes you will see that she bares no resemblance of the maid in Joe Jackson's video Steppin Out. Cynthia Rhodes did star in Toto's music video Rosanna go watch it.
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:04 PM
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That is not Cynthia Rhodes if you all would get on Google and type in pics of Cynthia Rhodes you will see that she bares no resemblance of the maid in Joe Jackson's video Steppin Out.
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