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Old 01-06-2017, 06:10 PM
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Grimm (half) season six discussion thread

Starts tonight (January 6, 2017). Glad I looked at the TV guide, as I saw no advertisements at all.

Many questions to answer...

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Old 01-06-2017, 07:46 PM
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Old 01-07-2017, 08:47 PM
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I didn't watch it until tonight.
Looks like Eve/Juliette is not COMPLETELY de-wesened. And the stick (piece of the True Cross?) has some interesting side effects.

Not sure I like what the previews showed:
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Using the body morphing spell


Anyone else watching?

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Old 01-07-2017, 10:45 PM
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oh, and I noticed that Eve/Juliette is now credited as Elisabeth (instead of Bitsie) Tulloch (IMDB says this isn't new, but it was the first time I noticed)

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Old 01-07-2017, 11:32 PM
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Heh. Caught me by surprise. I thought it was starting in two weeks.

I'll have to watch it Sunday.
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Old 01-08-2017, 01:42 AM
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Not a whole lot to say, since not a whole lot happened really.

I forgot Wu got turned into a werewolf. A very ugly werewolf.

Eve advised Nick not to carry the Jesus stick all the time. I wonder if that's foreshadowing something.

Nick gets to wear Renard's body. Does that mean someone else is getting pregnant?
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Old 01-09-2017, 04:26 PM
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Nick gets to wear Renard's body
Huh? how did i miss that? Are you referring to when evil-child was controlling him when he stabbed Bonaparte?
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Old 01-09-2017, 05:54 PM
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The body copy was shone in the preview for episode 2 (or at least a future episode)

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Old 01-10-2017, 01:47 PM
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Starts tonight (January 6, 2017). Glad I looked at the TV guide, as I saw no advertisements at all.

Many questions to answer...

Brian
A lot of shows are having that problem lately. I didn't miss this, but did miss a few other returns. Hell, I missed something like half a season of Teen Wolf.
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Old 01-10-2017, 02:04 PM
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I'm watching, but time shifted to Sundays. This one was just reminding us where the last season left off. Could have been done in a synopsis. Seemed like a waste of time.
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Old 01-10-2017, 03:01 PM
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I'm watching, but time shifted to Sundays. This one was just reminding us where the last season left off. Could have been done in a synopsis. Seemed like a waste of time.
I thought it was a good episode and that the story it told was necessary to the plot.
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Old 01-23-2017, 06:10 AM
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The kid is (of course) ridiculously overpowered (surely there have been Hexenbeist/Zauberbiest babies before - although maybe Renard being royal can be fanwanked into it). I was really expecting someone to suggest using the stick to switch Nick back (I was certainly talking to the TV about it).
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Old 01-24-2017, 12:55 AM
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Yeah, the scary superpowered brat that can't be controlled is pretty cliche. I think all the babies in this show is part of what killed it.

Interesting seeing Meisner again. I was kind of hoping someone would use the Jesus stick on him, but is that even the real him?
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Old 01-25-2017, 10:55 AM
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I think all the babies in this show is part of what killed it.
I actually am surprised I'm still watching this show. Might as well finish the series I suppose.

I don't really like the baby sub-plots either. And I really dislike the change of Renard from good guy to bad guy.

The best part of the show was when they killed off Juliet. I didn't mind her coming back as Eve because that was a character she could actually pull off as an actor. I know, I know, I'm being extra snarky. But she really is a terrible actress.
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Old 02-04-2017, 09:21 AM
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So... Rosalie is going to have a litter of puppies?

Is it just me, or does Meisner's "ghost" sound different than when he was alive? I thought he had a vaguely foreign-sounding accent before, but now he just sounds like he has a regular American accent. Maybe because he is just a figment of Renard's imagination?
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Old 02-04-2017, 11:38 AM
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Watched pieces of one of the episodes, otherwise as I said elsewhere, I thought where we ended up after the big fight and the big bad being killed was a good ending place for the series. They should have simply wrapped it up with Reynard as Mayor and Nick as Captain. The Royals and Black Claw both smacked down. Life is good type thing.
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Old 02-04-2017, 03:52 PM
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Darn it, I was hoping to be the first to comment on Rosalie's litter.

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Old 02-04-2017, 09:45 PM
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A cicada wesen? Why not!

It seems they find an excuse every episode for Renard to take off his shirt.

Speaking of Renard, his rings were gone after that episode in the shop, right? I wonder if that affects the cursed ring that Bonaparte put on Adalind.
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Old 02-04-2017, 09:46 PM
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Oh, and that was a nice twist at the end with the intended victim in the park!
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Old 02-13-2017, 02:36 AM
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Anyone still watching? I'm happy to see creatures of the week again. Wonder what's planned for the penultimate March 24th episode, predicted by the cloth - hoping for a doozy!
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Old 02-13-2017, 09:18 AM
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I think I missed the tail end of the episode, or maybe just forgot. The hotel manager was a Hundjager and the owner lady was the face sucker. Was the old guy in the wheelchair a Wesen?
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Old 02-13-2017, 10:51 AM
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I think I missed the tail end of the episode, or maybe just forgot. The hotel manager was a Hundjager and the owner lady was the face sucker. Was the old guy in the wheelchair a Wesen?
yes - but not quite sure what kind -
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Old 02-13-2017, 11:14 AM
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yes - but not quite sure what kind -
Looked a lot like a fish to me.

So... something I've been trying to figure out for the past season and a half. Is Renard just basically an opportunist dickhead, or is something more interesting going on? It seemed like for a long time he was, if not one of the good guys, at least a somewhat sympathetic not-bad-guy. But at some point, he made a pretty hard face/heel turn, and seems to be the primary antagonist to Nick & co.

Did I miss something in particular that prompted this shift, or is it just basically explained by lust for power on Renard's part?
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:35 PM
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Did I miss something in particular that prompted this shift, or is it just basically explained by lust for power on Renard's part?
Not really... Renard seemed to be pretty easily manipulated by Black Claw, making the switch to the Dark Side rather quickly. They did have his daughter after all, which made it (at least initially) a forced partnership. They certainly knew how to manipulate him though... He totally ran with the Mayor thing. I kept thinking that he was only going to play along long enough to get his daughter back - and he'd switch back to "good" and working with the team, but that never happened. Seems like lazy writing to me that they didn't really flush out the character change..

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Old 02-13-2017, 01:14 PM
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Not really... Renard seemed to be pretty easily manipulated by Black Claw, making the switch to the Dark Side rather quickly.
Glad it's not just me; I was kind of baffled at first, thinking "Well, they have his daughter, so he's doing this under duress." And I honestly expected him to be a sort of double-agent, or maybe working from the inside to get control of Black Claw, and that he'd be sympathetic to Nick & co.

But no.. from what I can tell, once they dangled the prospect of a mayorship in front of him along with a pretty redhead, he was all in for the bad guys, making me wonder if he'd ever actually been anything else.
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Old 02-13-2017, 01:20 PM
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Speaking of Renard and things not flushed out... Here's hoping they give us some more details about the 'Royals' by the end of this thing... Unless I missed it, they never really showed us what type of Wesen the Royals are. Renard is 1/2 Zauberbiest, and 1/2 royal. What does a full Royal look like when they woge? Maybe getting more into the history of the stick-of-destiny will get us some details, but i'm not holding my breath.
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Old 02-13-2017, 02:04 PM
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re: Reynard -

Initially, he was out to kill the GrimmAunt - they were unaware that Nick was a Grimm.

They also made it pretty clear after the reveal that Reynard was a Zauberbiest, that Portland was under his control. ( he took the ear of that one reaper as payment, he also sicked the priest on the one running the fight club, etc).

At some point, Reynard decided to try and use the Grimm - to have him on his side.

Then we had the coins - which showed Reynard's true ambitions.

Then the Royals royally blew up -

Then came black claw - and while I think Reynard was initially playing both sides - he's now in to deep and a bit insane - channeling Jack the Ripper will do that to a fella.
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Old 02-13-2017, 03:28 PM
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Not really... Renard seemed to be pretty easily manipulated by Black Claw, making the switch to the Dark Side rather quickly. They did have his daughter after all, which made it (at least initially) a forced partnership. They certainly knew how to manipulate him though... He totally ran with the Mayor thing. I kept thinking that he was only going to play along long enough to get his daughter back - and he'd switch back to "good" and working with the team, but that never happened. Seems like lazy writing to me that they didn't really flush out the character change..
I was absolutely sure Renard was just playing the bad guys. Boy was I wrong!
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Old 02-13-2017, 07:56 PM
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It seems they find an excuse every episode for Renard to take off his shirt.
You say that almost like it's a bad thing..
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Old 02-15-2017, 06:51 PM
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Speaking of Renard and things not flushed out... Here's hoping they give us some more details about the 'Royals' by the end of this thing... Unless I missed it, they never really showed us what type of Wesen the Royals are. Renard is 1/2 Zauberbiest, and 1/2 royal. What does a full Royal look like when they woge? Maybe getting more into the history of the stick-of-destiny will get us some details, but i'm not holding my breath.
Are the Royals wesen? I don't recall seeing any woge besides Renard. Also, I remembered him as being half-wesen, half-civilian. (I forget the real term.) since his mother is a hexenbiest, that would make his father the Royal. Unless she's also a Royal.

Hence my confusion: what are they the royal family of?
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Old 02-16-2017, 11:45 AM
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Are the Royals wesen? I don't recall seeing any woge besides Renard. Also, I remembered him as being half-wesen, half-civilian. (I forget the real term.) since his mother is a hexenbiest, that would make his father the Royal. Unless she's also a Royal.

Hence my confusion: what are they the royal family of?
They are mostly Kehrseite-Schlich-Kenn. Since they know of the Wesen, they use and manipulate them
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Old 02-17-2017, 09:41 PM
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Wow, that was a real fun episode. Loved Hank digging himself in the mirror, singing Marvin Gaye.

I couldn't figure out at first why Renard suddenly decided not to go after Diana, but then it clicked. Yeah, she can take care of herself.

Great line from Diana. I saw it coming a mile away but still laughed.
Diana: "Who are you?"
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Old 02-18-2017, 06:40 AM
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The Diana part was great. They do have some subtlety with her (she doesn't go berserk every time she doesn't go her way)

Didn't Hank have two glasses (drinking the glass meant for Rosalee)? I could see him drinking his own, but he drank another (the one that would attract him to Wu)
But he also never saw Wu so that may check out.

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Old 02-18-2017, 09:33 AM
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That was a truly terrible episode.
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:35 AM
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Being lazy (and having dropped my stats class) - what are the odds that only one person (Hank) drank his own glass? I realize that the distribution wasn't necessarily random (the waiter could control it, and in typing this I realize he must of since no one ended up with their actual partner), but curious anyway.

And non-random implies that Rosalee was going to get Hank, and Hank was going to have Wu.
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:42 AM
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Wow, was I off: I thought it was a two-step thing. You got primed by the champagne, but later on you fell for whoever you first saw AFTER DRINKING COFFEE.

Which may sound silly, but otherwise why did Wu fall for the random waitress?

Did like the "Ransom of Red Chief" subplot.

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Old 02-19-2017, 03:20 AM
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Post 35: The waiter had the hair collection baggies numbered - the part how he had the glasses marked to correspond I may have missed, but that was certainly implied based on showing the baggies were numbered. Post 36: When the waitress nearly knocked the tray over in the kitchen and saved one glass from toppling, a strand of her hair landed in what turned out to be Wu's glass.
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Old 02-19-2017, 07:20 AM
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Post 36: When the waitress nearly knocked the tray over in the kitchen and saved one glass from toppling, a strand of her hair landed in what turned out to be Wu's glass.
Ah, I missed that. I have a bad habit of doing other things while watching tv, in this case I was folding laundry. Sometimes I'm looking away at the exact wrong moment.
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Old 02-21-2017, 04:36 PM
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Hank falling in love with himself was really funny.

Another appearance by NeanderWu. I wonder if they're going to deal with that before the show ends? We've speculated here before that maybe the magic stick could cure him, but it doesn't seem to be something the characters are concerned about.

I also wonder how they're going to deal with the Diana situation as the series nears its end. She's an honest-to-gosh psychopath with magic powers. You can't just 'happily-ever-after' that away.
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Old 02-21-2017, 04:47 PM
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Whatever that demon-hell abyss that was in the bathroom mirror, I think Diana is going to end up involved with that somehow. Like Eleven in Stranger Things style. The only way to reconcile her character is to sacrifice it, but since she's a child she has to do it herself. If they don't go that route then I think the series will have to end with her character as an ominous question mark.
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Old 02-26-2017, 03:38 PM
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Last Friday's episode really challenged my suspension of disbelief. Apparently if wesen body parts are grafted onto a normal human's body, they retain the ability to woge when triggered by... something?
I think the writers are getting careless/sloppy and it's probably good that they're wrapping the series up soon. They almost lost me when people started having babies, but my wife wasn't inclined to give it up then, so I kept watching, but I'm ready for it to end now.
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Old 02-26-2017, 05:55 PM
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I thought the monster of the week was interesting. Never really thought about Wessens donating organs or body parts and what would happen.

Rosalee giving birth to a litter was sort of funny.
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Old 02-27-2017, 08:00 AM
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I thought the monster of the week was interesting. Never really thought about Wessens donating organs or body parts and what would happen.
My wife and I looked at each other and said "Victor Shelley? Really?"

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Rosalee giving birth to a litter was sort of funny.
Called it in post 15. That was pretty funny though, Monroe just kept setting one baby down on the bed as the next one popped out.
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Old 02-28-2017, 04:54 PM
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I think I missed the tail end of the episode, or maybe just forgot. The hotel manager was a Hundjager and the owner lady was the face sucker. Was the old guy in the wheelchair a Wesen?
Well he woges into a crimson fish type right at the end.

Full name according to the credits is Charles "Red Herring" Lynk

Honestly.
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Old 03-19-2017, 06:30 PM
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Well, we know what is on the other side of the mirror. Apparently there is nothing to eat except people and wesen. And it looks like Renard is an ally for now.

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Old 03-21-2017, 06:00 PM
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There's two more episodes, right? Interested to see how they wrap this up. There was more little girl glowy eyes juju going on in this ep, I think that's going to get ramped up and have a big role in how things go from now on. I hope it doesn't get back to Monroe that Nick ate Blutbad.

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Old 03-22-2017, 05:45 PM
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Can anybody recap the last episode? My Tivo recorded baseball by mistake.
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Old 03-23-2017, 01:00 PM
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http://ew.com/recap/grimm-season-6-episode-11/

NBC's website has the episodes, no need for home DVR.
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Old 03-25-2017, 07:48 AM
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Holy crap! Did. Not. See. That. Coming.

Looks like Nick could really use some of those nasty Grimm weapons he used to have stashed in the trailer.
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Old 03-25-2017, 10:01 AM
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I'm guessing magic staff reconstituted with magic stick has some sort of reset power. Their story isn't over...yet.
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