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Old 01-26-2017, 09:05 AM
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Songs That Wouldn't Fly Today

I Saw Her Standing There (she was just 17)

Sweet Little Sixteen
Sweet Little Rock n Roller (9 years old and sweet as she can be).

Stray Cat Blues (I can see that you're fifteen years old)

Others? . . .
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Old 01-26-2017, 09:06 AM
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Dancing Queen (Young and Sweet, only 17) by ABBA

Happy Birthday, Sweet Sixteen by Neil Sedanka

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Old 01-26-2017, 09:10 AM
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"He Hit Me and It Felt Like a Kiss" from The Crystals.
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Old 01-26-2017, 09:15 AM
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On the age thing, I think that there should be a distinction between songs meant to be from the perspective of the adult singer wanting the jailbait and a song written for and meant to be identified with by actual teens. For example, Neil Sedanka was just mentioned, and in his song Calendar Girl, he wasn't implying that he, Neil Sedanka, intended to go to a girl's Junior Prom but that the teen male who was supposed to be the POV character for the song intended to.
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Old 01-26-2017, 09:15 AM
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"Brown Sugar", from The `Stones. "Hear him whip the women just around midnight".

Does it even get radio play these days?
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Old 01-26-2017, 09:16 AM
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"Wives and Lovers," written by Burt Bacharach and Hal David. Here's a sample of the lyrics:

I'm warning you,
Day after day, there are girls at the office and the men will always be men,
Don't stand him up, with your hair still in curlers, you may not see him again.
Wives should always be lovers too
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Old 01-26-2017, 09:19 AM
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"Brown Sugar", from The `Stones. "Hear him whip the women just around midnight".

Does it even get radio play these days?
All the time on classic rock stations.

Edit: I may have been whooshed

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Old 01-26-2017, 09:34 AM
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Beatles -Run For Your Life
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Well I'd rather see you dead, little girl
Than to be with another man
You better keep your head, little girl
Or you won't know where I am

You better run for your life if you can, little girl
Hide your head in the sand little girl
Catch you with another man
That's the end'a little girl

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Old 01-26-2017, 09:39 AM
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All the time on classic rock stations.

Edit: I may have been whooshed
Thanks Ponch8. No woosh intended... I don't listen to the classic rock stations often so i really don't know how popular it (still) is.
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Old 01-26-2017, 09:40 AM
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"Young Girl" by Gary Puckett and Union Gap is problematic. On the one hand the singer is clearly aware that having a relationship with an underaged girl is very, very wrong. On the other hand, the song suggests that the relationship has already been going on for an unspecified time and that while they haven't had sex yet he might still be tempted.
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Old 01-26-2017, 09:49 AM
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You're Sixteen, You're Beautiful, and You're Mine

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Old 01-26-2017, 09:52 AM
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Thanks Ponch8. No woosh intended... I don't listen to the classic rock stations often so i really don't know how popular it (still) is.
Oh, believe me: It's been played continuously, jumping from one classic rock station to another, for longer than I've been alive. It's my number one go-to song to prove my thesis that approximately nobody listens to the lyrics, unless there's a political point to be made: Bunch of rappers write a song called "Cop Killer"? Some Christians have convinced themselves that the kinds of people who'd be in a band called "Black Oak Arkansas" can write lyrics that are more coherent backwards than they are forwards? Tipper Gore wants to meet Frank Zappa? J. Edgar Hoover thinks "Louie, Louie" is a Communist code phrase? Everyone listens to those lyrics. There's hay to be made. Apparently, there ain't no hay to be made from picking on the Rolling Stones.

They'll buy five copies for their mother, but they won't listen to the Rolling Stones.

Anyway, my vote is The Spokesmen, with their song "Dawn of Correction", because that's too pro-government for even the conservatives these days.
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Old 01-26-2017, 09:52 AM
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"Illegal Alien" by Genesis.
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Old 01-26-2017, 10:04 AM
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Into the Night - Benny Mardone

"She's just sixteen years old, leave her alone, they said..."
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Old 01-26-2017, 10:09 AM
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'Under my thumb' Rolling stones
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Old 01-26-2017, 10:21 AM
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Every where is freaks and hairies, dykes and fairies;
Tell me where is sanity?
Tax the rich, feed the poor, till there are no rich no more.
I'd love to change the world - but I don't know what to do,
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Old 01-26-2017, 10:40 AM
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Chantilly Lace
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Old 01-26-2017, 10:42 AM
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Old 01-26-2017, 10:45 AM
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"Art Lover" by the Kinks is pervey as hell if you purely look at the lyrics.

But if you know Ray Davies wrote it after a bitter custody fight in which he lost his daughter, it has a different tone.
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Old 01-26-2017, 10:54 AM
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Into the Night - Benny Mardone

"She's just sixteen years old, leave her alone, they said..."
This is what I came here to post. There are many songs about underage girls, but I always found this one to be the creepiest. Mardones was 33 years old when he sang that.

I would also offer up The New Style by The Beastie Boys.

"I've got money and juice, twin sisters in my bed
Their father had Aids so I shot him in the head
If I played guitar I'd be Jimmy Page
The girlies I like are underage"

Never got much, if any, radio play as far as I know.
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Old 01-26-2017, 10:54 AM
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Regardless of the actual age of the singer in most of these songs, weren't they geared to teenagers? I'm not seeing the skeevyness of most of these.
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Old 01-26-2017, 11:03 AM
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Money for Nothing by Dire Straits
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Old 01-26-2017, 11:08 AM
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David Allan Coe "If That Ain't Country..." -- includes a racial slur. IIRC, several of his early songs as well were openly racist and misogynistic.
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Old 01-26-2017, 11:10 AM
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Toadies - Possum Kingdom. Rape and murder?

Ray Stevens - Ahab the Arab
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Old 01-26-2017, 11:23 AM
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Regardless of the actual age of the singer in most of these songs, weren't they geared to teenagers? I'm not seeing the skeevyness of most of these.
I made a similar point in post #4. One of the songs that comes to mind that crosses to the skeevy side of the line is Little Girls by Oingo Boingo, the lyrics of which would definitely never be parodied in a children's comic in 2013.
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Old 01-26-2017, 11:26 AM
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Ray Stevens - Ahab the Arab
And that makes me think of one that should never have been made, not necessarily because it isn't PC, but because of general awfulness.
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Old 01-26-2017, 11:37 AM
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Money for Nothing by Dire Straits
Most stations play a radio-friendly edit with the offending verse removed.
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Old 01-26-2017, 11:41 AM
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Most stations play a radio-friendly edit with the offending verse removed.
And a number of them play the original version. Self-censorship (and that's all this is) is always unevenly applied, and some stations are more cautious than the norm due to a real or perceived difference in their local audience. Or the station manager has a bigger-than-usual stick up their ass, whatever.
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Old 01-26-2017, 11:43 AM
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Weren't the original words to Puttin' On the Ritz fairly obviously patronising about black people and subsequently re-written?
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Old 01-26-2017, 11:43 AM
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I Shot The Sheriff. Especially Marley's version.

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Old 01-26-2017, 12:02 PM
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Most stations play a radio-friendly edit with the offending verse removed.
i thought the point of the song was the character singing was supposed to be perceived as a loudmouth lout; the song being an indictment of that kind of thinking.
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:06 PM
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I Saw Her Standing There (she was just 17)

Sweet Little Sixteen
Sweet Little Rock n Roller (9 years old and sweet as she can be).

Stray Cat Blues (I can see that you're fifteen years old)

Others? . . .
Sweet Little Rock and Roller is about a child. It's your mind that is making it dirty.
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:12 PM
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An obscure song to most, written ca. 1975:

Pardon me, compadre,
May I have this place in line?
You see the woman I love is standing there
Underneath the cardboard sign
That says...

Fifty cents a hug at the kissing booth,
To buy a little love at the kissing booth.
Loan me fifty cents for the kissing booth.

Pretty senorita,
Don't even know my name,
When I tell her how much I love her,
The answer will be the same.

She's sayin'...

Fifty cents a hug at the kissing booth,
To buy a little love at the kissing booth.
Loan me fifty cents for the kissing booth.
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:25 PM
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Another obscure song from the 1970's, Whambo Bambo:

We made him sit there in the back of the bus,
We didn't want him sitting up there with us,
Like yesterday into the bank where I went,
Who do you think was the President?

Damn me, Mammy, look at our Sammy,
The kid from next door.
Whambo bambo, little black sambo,
Ain't so little no more,
Ain't so little no more!
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:34 PM
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i thought the point of the song was the character singing was supposed to be perceived as a loudmouth lout; the song being an indictment of that kind of thinking.
Not everybody gets it, though. Some people hear the word "faggot" but not the context. And some people do get it, but just find the use of the word itself offensive. I get why a station wouldn't want to play the album version. Why risk backlash from people who can boycott your advertisers? The rock station I listen to plays the edited version.

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Old 01-26-2017, 12:35 PM
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The Big Bopper song? What am I missing? It doesn't sound like anything that wouldn't be played today, I don't think.
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:58 PM
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"Illegal Alien" by Genesis.
Why? Its sympathetic to, you know, illegal aliens.
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Old 01-26-2017, 01:10 PM
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"Young Girl" by Gary Puckett and Union Gap is problematic. On the one hand the singer is clearly aware that having a relationship with an underaged girl is very, very wrong. On the other hand, the song suggests that the relationship has already been going on for an unspecified time and that while they haven't had sex yet he might still be tempted.
Actually, the hits of Gary Puckett and the Union Gap tell a coherent story.

"Young Girl" -- he's attracted, but she's too young.
"Lady Willpower" -- We're going to do it.
"This Girl is a Woman Now" -- We did it.
"Woman, Woman" -- "Have you got cheating on your mind?" The relationship is dying.
"Over You" -- It's dead, Gary.

Of course there are dozens of songs from 1950 and earlier that couldn't even begin to fly today, with their casual racism and sexism.
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Old 01-26-2017, 01:26 PM
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Why? Its sympathetic to, you know, illegal aliens.
Let me preface by saying I think it's a great song but perhaps buddha_david is alluding to Mr. Collins' not so great attempt at a Hispanic accent. Also, the lyrics do refer to his bottle of tequila and his "seester" who will do anything to help him get to the outside.
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Old 01-26-2017, 02:03 PM
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Sweet Little Rock and Roller is about a child. It's your mind that is making it dirty.
My mind doesn't think any of the songs I listed are "dirty." Just by way of clarification.
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Old 01-26-2017, 02:08 PM
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Let me preface by saying I think it's a great song but perhaps buddha_david is alluding to Mr. Collins' not so great attempt at a Hispanic accent. Also, the lyrics do refer to his bottle of tequila and his "seester" who will do anything to help him get to the outside.
And what's his sister's name?

Sue.

Sue?

Sí.

NOW CUT THAT OUT!
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Old 01-26-2017, 02:28 PM
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It actually should have creeped everyone out at the time: A few years ago, Neil Diamond revealed that the "Caroline" in "Sweet Caroline" was JFK and Jackie's daughter, Caroline. Now, I'm a few years older than she is, and I was about 14 when that song came out. You do the math.

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Old 01-26-2017, 02:33 PM
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Most stations play a radio-friendly edit with the offending verse removed.
Yeah, I miss being able to sing along with

That little Clampett's got his own cement pond,
that little Clampett is a millionaire!


Al Yankovic-style.
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Old 01-26-2017, 02:41 PM
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Christine Sixteen - KISS, including the creepy monologue in the middle of it:

"I don't usually say things like this to girls your age,
but when I saw you coming out of the school that day,
that day I knew, I knew,
I've got to have you, I've got to have you."
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Old 01-26-2017, 02:45 PM
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Wang Dang Sweet Poontang - The Nuge.
Cat Scratch Fever - The Nuge.
Stranglehold - The Nuge.

Pretty much every Ted Nugent song, actually.
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Old 01-26-2017, 02:50 PM
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There was a wonderful little love song by Gilbert O'Sullivan called Clair, which was sweet and nice and it creeped me out even as a pre-teen. It might fly today, but it may be too darn goopy.
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Old 01-26-2017, 02:54 PM
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David Allan Coe "If That Ain't Country..." -- includes a racial slur. IIRC, several of his early songs as well were openly racist and misogynistic.
It gets played occasionally on our local, classic country radio show. The DJ's got his finger on the trigger and when that line comes up it's, "Workin' like (silence) an' board".

They let the "First rate whore" lines and story (from that song) ring out w/o any censorship, though.
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Old 01-26-2017, 03:32 PM
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Unfortunately, it's an attitude that exists. Years and years ago I was dating a girl (who, admittedly, was mentally ill) who would go out and cheat on me, tell me about it afterwards, and then blow up at me for not getting angry at her. "You just don't even care enough about me to get mad!"

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Wang Dang Sweet Poontang - The Nuge.
Cat Scratch Fever - The Nuge.
Stranglehold - The Nuge.

Pretty much every Ted Nugent song, actually.
You left out "Jailbait". I went looking for the lyrics to that one a while back, to see if I was remembering them correctly, and all of the lyric sites had a note that said, "These lyrics are unavailable by request of the author."
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Old 01-26-2017, 03:47 PM
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China Girl - David Bowie
Walk Like an Egyptian - The Bangles
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Old 01-26-2017, 03:47 PM
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I find it hard to understand the contention that songs with problematic lyrics "wouldn't fly" today.

It's a pretty ahistorical notion. You think there aren't songs with problematic lyrics today? Songs that are deliberately offense? Songs that are cluelessly offensive? Songs where the narrator of the song isn't supposed to be the same person as the performer of the song?
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