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Old 01-27-2017, 11:45 AM
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Baby, It's Cold Outside still gets played and redone though it is seemingly about a guy trying to pressure his girl into a little post date action while she protests the entire time.
No, it's not. We have covered that quite extensively on this board.
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Old 01-27-2017, 11:53 AM
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BTW, "Girl Talk" was composed by Neal Hefti, who did a lot of work for the Count Basie Orchestra. Bobby Troup just did the lyrics. He was better known at the lyricist for "Lemon Twist" and the immortal "Route 66."

And DO click F.U. Shakespeare's link to the Troup video. Jaw-dropping male chauvinist piggery! From the women's hair and hemlines, I figure it was made in '67 or '68. Here's a copy of the link.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lDcCxaktex4
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:31 PM
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BTW, "Girl Talk" was composed by Neal Hefti, who did a lot of work for the Count Basie Orchestra. Bobby Troup just did the lyrics. He was better known at the lyricist for "Lemon Twist" and the immortal "Route 66."

And DO click F.U. Shakespeare's link to the Troup video. Jaw-dropping male chauvinist piggery! From the women's hair and hemlines, I figure it was made in '67 or '68. Here's a copy of the link.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lDcCxaktex4
Yes, thanks, I forgot it was Hefti who wrote the music.

That link is a guilty pleasure of mine - be warned!
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:54 PM
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BTW, "Girl Talk" was composed by Neal Hefti, who did a lot of work for the Count Basie Orchestra. Bobby Troup just did the lyrics. He was better known at the lyricist for "Lemon Twist" and the immortal "Route 66.
Hefti also composed the theme for the Batman television series.

"Batman, Batman, Batman, Batman, Batman..."
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Old 01-27-2017, 07:03 PM
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Wow - I didn't know he could write lyrics too!
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Old 01-27-2017, 07:25 PM
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"Playground In My Mind" had a creepy vibe, especially with the kid's chorus.
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Old 01-27-2017, 08:50 PM
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I could just blow this thing up and throw out, "All Coons Look Alike To Me" by Ernest Hogan. You won't be hearing that on the radio any time...
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Old 01-27-2017, 09:09 PM
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That link is a guilty pleasure of mine - be warned!
Gotta love the ending, when five or six women drag Troup into a changing cubicle the size of a phone booth.

Okay.....NOW what?
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Old 01-27-2017, 09:23 PM
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One I'm shocked hasn't been mentioned yet is "My Sharona" by the Knack:



So he's emphasizing youth here, obviously. No age is mentioned, but it seems more than iffy.

But the phrase "get it up" was pretty outrageous by itself. Why did this fly (everywhere, oh goddamn everywhere if you were alive then...) in 1979? I think people were just a bit more naive about sex then: "Oh he can't mean *that*". And there wasn't social media to let one person point out these skeevy lyrics to all his/her friends.

Oh, and the Knack's followup album was entitled, "...But the Little Girls Understand". WTF?! So this wasn't a one-off thing with this band.
Around the same time, Bram Tchaikovsky released this tune, which is probably the only song ever to make the Top 40 that's about an inflatable sex doll.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U59z_KhAbnI

I heard this a few years ago on the overhead music while walking at the mall.
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Old 01-28-2017, 12:23 AM
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Around the same time, Bram Tchaikovsky released this tune, which is probably the only song ever to make the Top 40 that's about an inflatable sex doll.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U59z_KhAbnI

I heard this a few years ago on the overhead music while walking at the mall.
LOL!
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Old 01-28-2017, 03:33 AM
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i thought the point of the song was the character singing was supposed to be perceived as a loudmouth lout; the song being an indictment of that kind of thinking.
I was looking for this response. You're not allowed to portray characters in a bad light? Pointless editing messes with the story and characterization. Bad people say and do bad things. Edit that out of books and movies too, and things are gonna get mighty boring.
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Old 01-28-2017, 05:36 AM
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Stray Cat Blues (I can see that you're fifteen years old)
Thirteen, in the hit live album Get Yer Ya-yas Out! (released 1970).
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:10 AM
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What about Dickie Lee's Patches: Rich guy falls for poor girl from wrong side of town, they plan to get married, his parents won't let them, so she commits suicide and he plans to do the same.

I hear a neighbor telling my father -
He says a girl name of Patches was found
Floating face down in that dirty old river
That flows by the coal yards in old Shantytown.

Patches! Oh what can I do?
I swear I'll always love you.
It may not be right,
But I'll join you tonight.
Patches, I'm coming to you.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:24 AM
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Or Fancy, the song about the 18-year-old hooker who is very successful at it.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:34 AM
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Gotta love the ending, when five or six women drag Troup into a changing cubicle the size of a phone booth.

Okay.....NOW what?
I wanted it to be the women dragging him to the door and throwing him out in the street: "Geddoutta here, ya pervert!"
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Old 01-28-2017, 11:30 AM
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Or Fancy, the song about the 18-year-old hooker who is very successful at it.
Nah, if Carrie Underwood decided to remake it, it would go to #1. Bonus points if she can get Reba to sing a powerful backup during the chorus (And naturally, be the mother in the video). The only issue is that Reba's version still gets so much airplay, I doubt this could ever happen.

And she is not a hooker- She is a Courtesan. My Momma said it, so I believe it.
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Old 01-28-2017, 12:37 PM
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Or Fancy, the song about the 18-year-old hooker who is very successful at it.
Whose mother encourages her to get into the career.
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Old 01-28-2017, 01:31 PM
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Is this entire thread a whoosh, or is this just the whitest board in the world?
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Old 01-28-2017, 02:44 PM
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Then there are these reprehensible lyrics:

Do you remember sweet Michelle
She was my high school romance
She was fun to talk to and nice to smell
So I took her to the homecoming dance
Then I tied her to a chair and I shaved off all her hair
And I left her in the desert all alone
Well sometimes in my dreams
I can still hear the screams
Oh I wonder if she ever made it home
wasn't this in a weird al parody song "those were the good old days " ? which made fun all of the 50s/60s nostalgia songs that were out at the time ?

But no one mentions "don't stand so close to me ? " I thought it was just about someone who was antisocial until I read the lyrics .......
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Old 01-28-2017, 03:39 PM
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I got a woman - Ray Charles

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Old 01-28-2017, 04:00 PM
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wasn't this in a weird al parody song "those were the good old days " ? which made fun all of the 50s/60s nostalgia songs that were out at the time ?

But no one mentions "don't stand so close to me ? " I thought it was just about someone who was antisocial until I read the lyrics .......
davidm mentioned "Don't Stand So Close" in post 66.
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Old 01-28-2017, 04:07 PM
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wasn't this in a weird al parody song "those were the good old days " ? which made fun all of the 50s/60s nostalgia songs that were out at the time ?

But no one mentions "don't stand so close to me ? " I thought it was just about someone who was antisocial until I read the lyrics .......
Sure is.
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Old 01-28-2017, 04:58 PM
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"Chinese Circus" by Tin Huey.
"Paw-paw Negro Blowtorch" (seriously) by Brian Eno.
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Old 01-28-2017, 05:14 PM
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Around the same time, Bram Tchaikovsky released this tune, which is probably the only song ever to make the Top 40 that's about an inflatable sex doll.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U59z_KhAbnI

I heard this a few years ago on the overhead music while walking at the mall.
I've always felt that people misunderstand how pathetic the song Paper Doll is. To get it across it should be sung as Rubber Doll.
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Old 01-28-2017, 05:19 PM
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Yeah, it goes from quaint to woah-outdated in one line:

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She knows a woman's place is right there now in her home
And another thing that bothers me is that if she's staying home, how is she managing to give him money when he's in need?
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Old 01-28-2017, 05:24 PM
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"Go Away Little Girl"

Go away little girl
Go away little girl
I'm not supposed to be alone with you
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Old 01-28-2017, 05:33 PM
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"Shake, Rattle And Roll"

Get out from that kitchen and rattle those pots and pans
Get out from that kitchen and rattle those pots and pans
Well, roll my breakfast 'cause I'm a hungry man
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Old 01-28-2017, 07:08 PM
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There was a wonderful little love song by Gilbert O'Sullivan called Clair, which was sweet and nice and it creeped me out even as a pre-teen. It might fly today, but it may be too darn goopy.
Wasn't that a father/daughter song?
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Old 01-28-2017, 07:28 PM
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Wasn't that a father/daughter song?
No. O'Sullivan was babysitting his manager's daughter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clair_(song)
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Old 01-28-2017, 08:04 PM
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NetTrekker, we take copyright very seriously, here. Quoting a short excerpt of a song is acceptable under Fair Use, but quoting the entire lyrics is not. As such, I've edited your posts.
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Old 01-28-2017, 08:27 PM
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I'll throw a couple of Kenny Rogers songs out there. Ruby Don't Take Your Love to Town (about a crippled Vietnam vet whose contemplating shooting his cheating wife then committing suicide) and Coward of the County. Not sure either would be on the "would not fly" list, but both are somewhat inappropriate in spots...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHNhmwmNsPc
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Old 01-28-2017, 08:48 PM
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I'll throw a couple of Kenny Rogers songs out there. Ruby Don't Take Your Love to Town (about a crippled Vietnam vet whose contemplating shooting his cheating wife then committing suicide) and Coward of the County. Not sure either would be on the "would not fly" list, but both are somewhat inappropriate in spots...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHNhmwmNsPc
He doesn't commit suicide. He says that if he could move he would get his gun and kill her.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:02 PM
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He doesn't commit suicide. He says that if he could move he would get his gun and kill her.
Yeah, I said contemplating those two things.
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Old 01-29-2017, 07:01 PM
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Rod Stewart, Every Picture Tells a Story. "On the Peking ferry, I was feeling merry...I fell in love with a slit-eyed lady..."
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Old 01-29-2017, 09:33 PM
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Is this entire thread a whoosh, or is this just the whitest board in the world?
White and old.

The reason you don't hear music with problematic lyrics on the radio anymore is that old white guys only listen to old white guy music.

Signed,
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Old 01-30-2017, 05:02 AM
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White and old, well maybe, but actually when you look at the hip-hop oeuvre then its clear that pretty much everything that has been quoted so far is mild - and yet this stuff is currently flying.

If you want homophobic, misogynistic, drug and violence laden bullshit, then you don't have to look too far - I'd go as far as also adding there is a strong element of racism too.
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Old 01-30-2017, 07:59 AM
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Sure, maybe pop music is a minefield of obscenity and I'm just not paying attention. But I'll bet you still couldn't release a song called Thank Heaven for Little Girls by a group called The Dick Hyman Trio.
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:19 AM
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http://www.teen.com/2015/08/25/news/...ner-young-sex/
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They say she young, I should’ve waited
She a big girl, dog when she stimulated
She a big girl, dog
F*** what they talkin’ about, nigga
She a big girl, dog
I’m gonna do what the f*** I wanna do when I wanna do
She a big girl, dog
I’m puttin’ in, I’m penetratin’
I’m gettin’ big, I’m stimulated
That 'flew' in 2015 as a song written by a 25 year old rap artist who's girlfriend had just turned 18 when he released the song.
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Old 01-30-2017, 02:36 PM
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Without looking it up, I think the original line in "Puttin' on the Ritz" had to do with stylish, well-dressed Harlem types making the nightclub scene and whooping it up "every Thursday evening." Seems innocuous until you examine urban social history and notice that Thursday night was traditionally the maid's night off.
Not really... the original lyrics are about poor black people wearing flashy clothes that don't fit (probably secondhand), and spending more than they can afford trying to ape the upper classes.

Spangled Gowns upon the bevy of
High browns from down the levy *
All misfits
Puttin' on the Ritz
[...]
Come with me and we'll attend their jubilee
And see them spend
Their last two bits
Puttin' on the Ritz

[* high brown = light-skinned black person, especially women]
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Old 01-30-2017, 06:14 PM
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"Don't send him off with your hair still in curlers."
Nobody stands anybody up with their hair in curlers.
What ARE curlers, anyway?
Hee. Don't be a frump with curlers in and your old housecoat on. Dress up as a sex kitten or it's your fault if he cheats.

Plus, curlers can give you that "headache" you're always using as an excuse.

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Old 01-30-2017, 06:46 PM
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"American Pie" by Don McLean:

"And the three men I admire most: The Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost"

Holy shit you can't say that on the radio ... you'll have the ACLU on you like stink on bear crap ... separation of church and State, can't say that on Federal air waves ... buck-o ... now go sing about dorking loose women ...

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"Cross-eyed Mary" by Jethro Tull ...

"Laughing in the playground gets no kicks from little boys; Would rather make it with a letching grey"

Yeah, thirteen year old prostitutes do it on the cheap ...
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:13 PM
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Holy shit you can't say that on the radio ... you'll have the ACLU on you like stink on bear crap
Right. Just like they banned "Jesus Take the Wheel". Have you ever heard of a pro-religion song being "banned" from US airwaves?
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:32 PM
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Holy shit you can't say that on the radio ... you'll have the ACLU on you like stink on bear crap ... separation of church and State, can't say that on Federal air waves ...
The fuck are you talking about?
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Old 01-31-2017, 12:31 AM
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When they banned gospel music from the federal airwaves, I said nothing.

When they banned televangelists from the federal AM radio, I said nothing.
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Old 01-31-2017, 12:41 AM
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"American Pie" by Don McLean:

"And the three men I admire most: The Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost"

Holy shit you can't say that on the radio ... you'll have the ACLU on you like stink on bear crap ... separation of church and State, can't say that on Federal air waves ... buck-o ... now go sing about dorking loose women ...
???? What the hell are you talking about???
When has a song been banned from the radio because it has religious lyrics????
Just last month while driving across the state while scanning through the radio to listen to local stations I came across 5 different religious stations, 3 of which were playing music.
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Old 01-31-2017, 01:48 AM
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"American Pie" by Don McLean:

"And the three men I admire most: The Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost"

Holy shit you can't say that on the radio ... you'll have the ACLU on you like stink on bear crap ... separation of church and State, can't say that on Federal air waves ... buck-o ... now go sing about dorking loose women ...
The ACLU? Really?

Do you even understand what the ACLU does?

ACLU DEFENSE OF RELIGIOUS PRACTICE AND EXPRESSION

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The ACLU vigorously defends the rights of all Americans to practice their religion. But because the ACLU is often better known for its work preventing the government from promoting and funding selected religious activities, it is sometimes wrongly assumed that the ACLU does not zealously defend the rights of all religious believers to practice their faith.
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Old 01-31-2017, 04:51 AM
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Not really... the original lyrics are about poor black people wearing flashy clothes that don't fit (probably secondhand), and spending more than they can afford trying to ape the upper classes.
I have to admit that it took me much, much longer than it should have to realize that "Darktown" in "Darktown Strutters' Ball" wasn't just a place name but rather a reference to its inhabitants. Catchy tune, though.
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Old 01-31-2017, 06:22 AM
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Holy shit you can't say that on the radio ... you'll have the ACLU on you like stink on bear crap ... separation of church and State, can't say that on Federal air waves ... buck-o ... now go sing about dorking loose women ...
Jesus () I hope that was a whoosh, an ironic comment on a caricature of what is and is not objectionable.
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Old 01-31-2017, 07:05 AM
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A song like Mustapha would likely be considered very controversial in 2017. More than a few people would be outraged at someone appearing to be casually mocking Islam, what with all the nonsensical quasi-Arabic lyrics interspersed by references to Allah and Mohammad.
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Old 01-31-2017, 09:15 AM
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Sure, maybe pop music is a minefield of obscenity and I'm just not paying attention. But I'll bet you still couldn't release a song called Thank Heaven for Little Girls by a group called The Dick Hyman Trio.
Right. There are different kinds of "taboo" in different times in our culture. One contrast is discussed here: http://www.slate.com/articles/podcas...the_brain.html

...the part where McWhorter says how he wouldn't put much energy into correcting his 4-year-old daughter's occasional passing use of the word "shit," whereas if she said the n-word, he'd have a serious conversation with her.
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