Just how picky are you with what gets called "barbecue"?

[Labrador Deceiver]

Originally Posted by silenus

So what? Most of the people in the South thought slavery was a good idea, too. They're wrong.

Not about BBQ. Its always a noun, unless you're from up north and think grilling is "barbecuing".

[pulykamell]

Here it is from Samuel Johnson's A Dictionary of the English Language, 1756

TO BARBECUE - a term for dressing a whole hog.

BARBECUE - a hog drest whole

No notes on the manner of cooking or "dressing" there, but evidence that the word has been used as a noun for over two hundred fifty years.

[billfish678]

Thats right damit! Its even in the US Constitution if you look carefully. Or was it in the Declaration of Independence (aka we are gonna party and have BBQ and frack you you British wankers)? I look forward to the day the Supreme Court finally hears Mustard vs Vinegar so can get this shit straightened out once and for all.

[pulykamell]

The point was that barbecue has a long history of being used both as a noun and a verb.

[Rick]

If I say I am going to barbecue, that means low and slow. Might be ribs, might be pulled pork, might be brisket.
If I say I am going to grill, or cook out we are talking about grilling steaks, chops, chicken or fish.
If someone invites me to a BBQ, I will expect it will be some type of grilling.
Sauce has nothing to do with it.

[silenus]

Originally Posted by billfish678

I look forward to the day the Supreme Court finally hears Mustard vs Vinegar so can get this shit straightened out once and for all.

Really? With this court? State's rights mean nothing if they are going to use the power to mustardize BBQ sauce. We need a new Sherman to march through South Carolina and bring those heathens to justice. Starting with Laurens County, which is my family's ancestral breeding ground.

[Labrador Deceiver]

Originally Posted by silenus

Really? With this court? State's rights mean nothing if they are going to use the power to mustardize BBQ sauce. We need a new Sherman to march through South Carolina and bring those heathens to justice. Starting with Laurens County, which is my family's ancestral breeding ground.

My uncle lives on a farm outside Laurens. His home was built before the civil war. Beautiful place.

[si_blakely]

Originally Posted by jabiru

Same in Oz. Cooked outside over burning wood? Or coals? Or gas? It's a barbecue. Especially if some random male who doesn't know his way around a kitchen is doing it.

Ya gotta be able to slip (or maybe slap) another shrimp on it

Si

[Alessan]

To me, there are two conditions for a barbecue - the food has to be cooked outside, and it has to be eaten outside. Beyond that, anything's cool.

[jabiru]

Originally Posted by si_blakely

Ya gotta be able to slip (or maybe slap) another shrimp on it

Si

Except that no one here calls 'em shrimp.

[Magiver]

Originally Posted by jabiru

Except that no one here calls 'em shrimp.

You need to tell that to your tourism folks. They ran the "Shrimp on the Barbie" ads.

[si_blakely]

Originally Posted by jabiru

Except that no one here calls 'em shrimp.

Don't come the raw prawn with me, mate

I had a wee moment yesterday, watching a rerun of Masterchef Australia. A candidate served a pasta dish - ravioli made with bug. I did a double-take for an instant, then realised what they meant.

This is a bug...http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thenus. And they are tasty.

Si

[Rampant Coypu]

Pulled pork is barbecue. Steamed smoked brisked is barbecue. Fast roasted ribs are barbecue. I live on the pork/beef dividing line. We have both, and also smoked chicken. Chicken mostly cooked by pickling in lemon juice and yogurt with spices is also barbecue. Some people call it tandouri chicken, but it's barbecue. Vietnamese steamed baby ribs? Barbecue. Mexican "pastor"? Barbecue. But "Milanesa" is chicken fried steak, not barbecue

[aruvqan]

Originally Posted by si_blakely

Don't come the raw prawn with me, mate

I had a wee moment yesterday, watching a rerun of Masterchef Australia. A candidate served a pasta dish - ravioli made with bug. I did a double-take for an instant, then realised what they meant.

This is a bug...http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thenus. And they are tasty.

Si

If you look at the whole critter, they are very cockroachlike. They are actually undersea insects, lobsters and prawns I mean. [Look at the land based arthropods, they frequently get eaten but are considered oogy by those cultures that are not raised eating them in general.]

[amanset]

Originally Posted by flodnak

It's all good. As long as there are enough napkins around.

Pretty much this. It really isn't something I have the energy to care about. I just want to eat.

[billfish678]

Originally Posted by aruvqan

If you look at the whole critter, they are very cockroachlike. They are actually undersea insects, lobsters and prawns I mean. [Look at the land based arthropods, they frequently get eaten but are considered oogy by those cultures that are not raised eating them in general.]

This. I've always said that if shrimp crawled on dry land people probably would not eat them. And my name for them has always been "bay roaches". But damn they are good

[si_blakely]

Originally Posted by aruvqan

If you look at the whole critter, they are very cockroachlike. They are actually undersea insects, lobsters and prawns I mean. [Look at the land based arthropods, they frequently get eaten but are considered oogy by those cultures that are not raised eating them in general.]

I'm am completely aware that crustaceans are closely related to insects, just as I am aware that the shellfish I like are basically snails. I still am not eating slugs or spiders. I bet they don't BBQ very well, anyhow (no matter how you define BBQ).

Si

[jabiru]

Originally Posted by Magiver

You need to tell that to your tourism folks. They ran the "Shrimp on the Barbie" ads.

Because it was aimed at the US market.

[BigT]

I am absolutely not picky at all, other than making sure I know what they mean. Bu that's pretty easy to find out: "What kind of barbecue?" And it's easy to tell people: "Texas-style" "We're just grillin'" "It's barbecue chicken."

[ministryman]

Originally Posted by Zeldar

Is it anything that gets cooked over a grill?

Does it have to be "slow cooked"?

Is it anything with "barbecue sauce" on it?

Just where do you draw the line on what "real barbecue" is?

Yes

Hell no

If it sat on anything but a charcoal (or wood)-fired cooking surface, or took less than 3 hours of cooking time to produce, it ain't BBQ

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