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Old 10-09-2017, 11:15 PM
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Middle Earth: Shadow of War

If you liked Shadow of Mordor, you're going to LOVE the sequel. I've been playing it all night and it is amazing. I'm playing on hard (Nemesis) and let me tell you, they are NOT kidding. I've died... I don't know about 20 times or so in the 1st level passed the tutorial. There's a profound sense of satisfaction when you kill a captain. Gathering intel is no longer an optional thing, you will gather intel if you want to stand a chance against a captain.

Basically, if you felt like Aragorn in the first game, in this one you feel like Boromir. After he had two arrows in him.

Maybe on easy or normal it isn't so crazy, but I'm loving it on Nemesis. I'm determined to get good enough to be able to survive on that difficulty level. Great game though, well worth every penny.
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Old 10-09-2017, 11:18 PM
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I hear a lot of talk about micro transactions. How necessary are they, would you say?
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Old 10-09-2017, 11:24 PM
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I'm so early in the game I can't really say. From everything I've read if you just blast through the game then the 4th act will be really hard. If you play it, let's say normally, apparently you should have plenty of loot and in game currency. It feels to me, and again I'm very early, that buying loot is basically but the "privilege" to not play the game, if that makes sense.

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Old 10-09-2017, 11:32 PM
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I think I'll play through Shadow from the beginning again before buying this one. Give it some time to get any bugs sorted.
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Old 10-10-2017, 01:07 AM
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The only bug I've experienced so far is some of the cutscenes don't play properly.

I'm slowly getting better at the game. I think an issue I was having is a lack of gear meant I was seriously underpowered, which resulted in me getting killed, which results in the orcs levelling up, which means I'm more underpowered. Now that I'm getting some gear I'm able to hold my own a bit better, although it is still very hard. It might make sense to start on normal, get some gear and then put it on Nemesis difficulty.

The improved Nemesis system is great. Now, when an orc completes their mission, they despawn (they don't just disappear, but they simply leave unless you're actively fighting them in which case they may keep fighting or in some cases having accomplished their mission they flee. The whole thing is VERY cool) and respawn elsewhere. So when it says "Kill them before they can do X" you really do need to kill them before they do X. Regular orcs are hard enough now that if a captain flees, sometimes there's just nothing you can do about because you're just too overwhelmed to chase after him, which in my mind is great. It creates a lot of stories.

Overall, I'm loving it. I'm just about to finish the first zone and I think that's when the game proper begins.

Oh also, they've changed the final chance system. It used to be you had to move your cursor into a circle and press a button. Now, you simply have to time it. If you press too soon or too late you fail. That's why I was dying a lot. I was pressing it too soon and dying.

Oh and finally, intel is REALLY important. You can now enrage captains if you do the "wrong" thing. Like if you try a stealth attack and it enrages them, they become even more of a beast. So not only do you need intel to kill them efficiently, you need to intel to not die.

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Old 10-10-2017, 02:51 PM
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I hear a lot of talk about micro transactions. How necessary are they, would you say?
Supposedly, if you concentrate on only defending a couple of your forts, you can let the others get taken and farm re-taking them for the epic orcs and loot that you need. Try to max out the defense of all your forts, and you'd probably have to reach for your wallet.
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Old 10-10-2017, 10:54 PM
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I never played Shadow of Mordor at all - somehow it slipped past my radar - and so all the reviews I've seen of the new game are hard to follow (since a lot of them seem to assume knowledge of the first game). Anybody willing to: (1) give me a quick and simple description of the nature of the game; and (2) tell me whether I should play the first one before jumping into this one?
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Old 10-11-2017, 01:10 AM
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Did you play any of the Batman: Arkham ____ games? It's not dissimilar.

Except instead of fixed bosses, they get randomly generated with various strengths, weaknesses, and can occasionally come back from the dead or otherwise level up with new strengths to ambush you.

You probably don't need to play the first one if you know anything about Tolkien (though they're playing pretty fast & loose with the lore)...but it's a good game, and gets heavily discounted during Steam sales, so you could probably drop $5 on it at some point.
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Old 10-11-2017, 02:26 AM
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The first one is definitely worth 5 bucks.
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Old 10-11-2017, 08:27 AM
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The first one was worth the $30 I spent for it. I still enjoy playing it. I will get this new one but I am waiting for more players to hit the wall where either you have to grind or pay.
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Old 10-11-2017, 09:35 AM
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Is combat still fifty-orc slogs? That's where I got tired of the first game. Preferred Mad Max where you were fighting maybe 5-7 guys at most.
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Old 10-11-2017, 11:03 AM
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It can be at times. But it's generally pretty easy to jump in, kill the orc(s) that are carrying loot/the captain/grab the worm & run away, if you want to. And you occasionally have a lot of people on your side.

The biggest slog I've run into so far is actually killing the captains. Decapitations are rare now, so they have a decided tendency to come back from the dead over and over.
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Old 10-11-2017, 11:46 AM
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Is combat still fifty-orc slogs? That's where I got tired of the first game. Preferred Mad Max where you were fighting maybe 5-7 guys at most.
I find it much rarer to have such massive amounts of orcs. I'd say large groups are usually closer to 10-12. A captain and his guard is usually the captain + 6-8 orcs. I like that alarms now don't seem to just generate orcs (maybe a few I'm not 100% sure) but rather then just attract everything in range. I had an alarm last night and killed everything that came at me and that was it. Nothing else came and the alarm was still going. It was a brutally hectic fight with, I don't know maybe 20-30 orcs all told with a peak of about 15 or so attacking at one time with more running in, but it does seem like they've got rid of the endless spawn. I really like that because the endless spawn was silly.

I'm getting better at the game and can hold my own to some degree on Nemesis. Holy crap the captain battles can be epic on Nemesis. Absolutely epic. I briefly went down to Normal difficulty, and there's a very big difference in aggression. Plus, it might be my imagination but I think you have much less time to react for counters.

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Old 10-11-2017, 01:43 PM
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The most memorable captains I've seen so far:

A guy wearing the Tower's armor (from the first game) who is so terrified of the MC, that he instantly runs away every...single...time, even from his own ambushes. He's only level 3 or so, but I haven't been able to pin him down yet. He randomly died on his own once, but came back from the dead in order to run away some more.

One who fancied himself a bard. And brought a lute to a swordfight. And sang. He did not end well.

And one of the higher level ones in the starting town is a tracker, so he follows me around town, is immune to pretty much everything, and is "Enraged by Everything" (that's actually what it says on his statblock.) I suspect he's going to be around for a long, long time.
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Old 10-11-2017, 02:38 PM
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The most memorable captains I've seen so far:

A guy wearing the Tower's armor (from the first game) who is so terrified of the MC, that he instantly runs away every...single...time, even from his own ambushes. He's only level 3 or so, but I haven't been able to pin him down yet. He randomly died on his own once, but came back from the dead in order to run away some more.

One who fancied himself a bard. And brought a lute to a swordfight. And sang. He did not end well.

And one of the higher level ones in the starting town is a tracker, so he follows me around town, is immune to pretty much everything, and is "Enraged by Everything" (that's actually what it says on his statblock.) I suspect he's going to be around for a long, long time.
Holy crap on a cracker. Enraged by everything would be terrifying.

My best nemesis so far kept defeating me but choosing humiliation. When I finally beat hi on he said something like I gave you a second chance I bet you don't have the guts to do the same. So I let him go.

Such a great rivalry. Love this game!

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Old 10-11-2017, 02:55 PM
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So, on a basic level, what is this game? What's the basic gameplay loop? Everything I can find online assumes that I already understand the basics of the game. I need, like, a complete idiot's guide to whether or not I want to spend $60 on this.
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Old 10-11-2017, 02:59 PM
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So, on a basic level, what is this game? What's the basic gameplay loop? Everything I can find online assumes that I already understand the basics of the game. I need, like, a complete idiot's guide to whether or not I want to spend $60 on this.
It is s 3rd person action rpg. There's missions in an open world that usually involve killing orcs. There's a mix of combat and stealth mechanics. It is very similar to the Batman games. Also less so but somewhat the Assassins Creed games. I'd maybe check out some gameplay videos.

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Old 10-11-2017, 05:11 PM
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I got Shadows of Mordor when it was on sale for $5. I guess I don't have the reflexes anymore, if I ever did, because combat against 50 orcs is really really hard. How are you supposed to handle the "get dropped in a pit and fight 50 orcs" missions?

Obviously it makes sense that you shouldn't stand and fight 50 orcs, and that you should die if you try it. But they have missions for it, which seems to indicate that the designers thought you should be able to do it.

Also, if an orc boss is immune to ranged, and immune to stealth attacks, well, that's about all I've got. I did eventually get one boss that had both, after quite a while, by literally running around the tower behind him, getting in one non-stealth hit from behind, then running around the tower the other direction, hitting him again, all the while having to kill endless waves to newly spawned orcs. What a pain.
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Old 10-11-2017, 05:22 PM
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I got Shadows of Mordor when it was on sale for $5. I guess I don't have the reflexes anymore, if I ever did, because combat against 50 orcs is really really hard. How are you supposed to handle the "get dropped in a pit and fight 50 orcs" missions?

Obviously it makes sense that you shouldn't stand and fight 50 orcs, and that you should die if you try it. But they have missions for it, which seems to indicate that the designers thought you should be able to do it.

Also, if an orc boss is immune to ranged, and immune to stealth attacks, well, that's about all I've got. I did eventually get one boss that had both, after quite a while, by literally running around the tower behind him, getting in one non-stealth hit from behind, then running around the tower the other direction, hitting him again, all the while having to kill endless waves to newly spawned orcs. What a pain.
The new version has 3 difficulty modes: easy, normal and nemesis. I'm not saying you should get the game, because I can definitely understand what you're saying, but maybe the easy difficulty might be an enjoyable experience. But it is a pretty expensive gamble (I guess you could return it if you play it for less than 2 hours).
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:33 PM
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Yeah, I don't have time to play the games I already have, so the new title isn't on my list. I just wanted to complain a bit.
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:38 PM
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Thanks to this thread, I started up Shadows of Mordor last night for the first time since I finished a few years ago. It said it took me like 515ish hours! Though I imiagin it counted the hours when I would paus the game and then passed out drunk on the couch.

Anyway, I started over fresh. And I quickly relearned the buttons and such, but holy cow, my thumb/palm muscles is sore today! Only played for like 2.5 hrs last night. I forgot how great it looks! How satisfying it is to slice heads off.
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Old 10-11-2017, 07:46 PM
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Yeah, it's fun to just walk up behind an unsuspecting orc and just asplode his head. The problem I have with the combat is that it doesn't scale the way I'm used to from other RPG style games. You go from "I'm doing OK" to "Oh shit, I'm nearly dead" very fast. Which is fine, it's just hard for my old hands with the rheumatiz.
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:18 AM
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It said it took me like 515ish hours!
This is why I roll my eyes when people claim the grind is going to "force" them to buy loot boxes...even if you couldn't buy one type with the in-game currency.

And it's REALLY hard to keep a good orc down: I had one come back after I split him in half!
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:30 AM
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I need, like, a complete idiot's guide to whether or not I want to spend $60 on this.
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But it is a pretty expensive gamble (I guess you could return it if you play it for less than 2 hours).
WB games tend to drop in price fairly quick. If you can find other things to occupy your time, I'd bet this will be under $20 on sale within the next 8-12 month.

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Old 10-12-2017, 08:24 AM
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This is why I roll my eyes when people claim the grind is going to "force" them to buy loot boxes...even if you couldn't buy one type with the in-game currency.

And it's REALLY hard to keep a good orc down: I had one come back after I split him in half!
Did he have sutures or staples holding him together? That was something that cracked me up about the first one, you'd kill an orc, and he'd return with metal plates holding his skull together.
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:21 AM
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WB games tend to drop in price fairly quick. If you can find other things to occupy your time, I'd bet this will be under $20 on sale within the next 8-12 month.
The only problem with that is I wouldn't get to play this amazing game for the next 8-12 months. I do plan on waiting for a sale to pick up the DLC.

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Did he have sutures or staples holding him together? That was something that cracked me up about the first one, you'd kill an orc, and he'd return with metal plates holding his skull together.
That still happens. Seeing the scars that you've left is great. Also, sometimes they'll change their name based on what happened.

I had an orc I burnt to death change his name to the "Flame of War". His intro speech was great. "I saw the truth as I the flames consumed my flesh etc."

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Old 10-12-2017, 11:12 AM
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I cracked and bought it. Watching the intro cinematic now. If this is Arkham ____ in Middle Earth, with a bit of silly parkour, I couldn't be more in.
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:13 AM
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Did he have sutures or staples holding him together? That was something that cracked me up about the first one, you'd kill an orc, and he'd return with metal plates holding his skull together.
He was actually still noticeably bisected. He had metal rods connecting the various bits that had been cut off (both arms below the elbow and his waist) and a good chunk of his face was replaced as well. He got the title "The Machine" as well as Vault-Breaker, the ability to counter any frontal attack and exploding spears. Luckily, he was still vulnerable to beasts, and I could summon a Caragor at that point.
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:24 AM
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He was actually still noticeably bisected. He had metal rods connecting the various bits that had been cut off (both arms below the elbow and his waist) and a good chunk of his face was replaced as well. He got the title "The Machine" as well as Vault-Breaker, the ability to counter any frontal attack and exploding spears. Luckily, he was still vulnerable to beasts, and I could summon a Caragor at that point.
That's insanely cool. And I'm glad to hear the Caragor/Wargs are back. What about the trolls? And Torvin?
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:31 AM
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I cracked and bought it. Watching the intro cinematic now. If this is Arkham ____ in Middle Earth, with a bit of silly parkour, I couldn't be more in.
If you liked the Arkham series you will quite likely enjoy this game. The combat system is extremely similar, as is gameplay. You're a ranger instead of Batman. Have fun!
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:34 AM
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If you liked the Arkham series you will quite likely enjoy this game. The combat system is extremely similar, as is gameplay. You're a ranger instead of Batman. Have fun!
Of course, if you're a Tolkien purist, your head will explode about 30 minutes in.
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:47 AM
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That's insanely cool. And I'm glad to hear the Caragor/Wargs are back. What about the trolls? And Torvin?
The giant troll-things are back too, and the CHUDS and wasps plus there's apparently undead now and poison spider swarms as well.

The giant orcs you see in the vids are actually trolls (and they drop better loot 1000 $ vs. the 50 a normal orc drops) and the drakes are awesome, but actually a bit weaker than you'd think - there's a LOT of orcs with projectiles if you're flapping around overhead.

Haven't seen Torvin, but I'm really only just past the point where I can start recruiting.
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:05 PM
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I got the Shadow of Mordor GOTY edition for 4 bucks on the Steam Sale last summer, and it turned out to be the only game I bought at that time that held my attention for any significant amount of time. Very much worth 4 bucks.

That said, I wouldn't consider it to be worth a lot more than that. I played the main story all the way through to the end, which took me all of about two weeks. The two expansions and the other extras (like the various "Challenges" where you need to kill a certain number of certain types of orcs within a certain number of minutes) didn't really keep me interested, and the actual end of the main story was rather anti-climactic.

During those two weeks, however, I couldn't pull myself away from the game, either by first learning how to finally take down those two nasty Chiefs that kept showing up and kicking my ass every time I tried to do anything, or by honing my skill enough to take on some of the most challenging or messy missions on the way through the campaign. My arms would hurt and I would worry about the integrity of my keyboard as I pounded away at it for hours on end.

Of course, as I was going through this, I learned that the sequel was to come out in the near future. Obviously the super-cheap sale price, which remained in place for a while after the main Steam Sale ended, was just to get as many people as possible hooked before dropping the Bigger Better and More Expensive version on the market.

I figure I'm going to do with Shadow of War as I've done with every major AAA title that's come out since Skyrim - put it off until a more complete version is out for much cheaper. By the looks of things, with all the extra details about micro transactions, I feel that the wait-and-see approach very much warranted in this case.
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:04 PM
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Did he have sutures or staples holding him together? That was something that cracked me up about the first one, you'd kill an orc, and he'd return with metal plates holding his skull together.
Why have I never noticed this before?!?!
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:35 PM
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I bought Shadows of Mordor on Steam when it cost peanuts. You guys are pushing me to fire it up.

I loved the Arkham games (mainly the second) and I love the heck out of Mad Max which has the same combat.

Oh and I’m a massive Tolkien fan, and played LotRO for a long time.
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Old 10-13-2017, 10:50 AM
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I got the Shadow of Mordor GOTY edition for 4 bucks on the Steam Sale last summer, and it turned out to be the only game I bought at that time that held my attention for any significant amount of time. Very much worth 4 bucks.

That said, I wouldn't consider it to be worth a lot more than that. I played the main story all the way through to the end, which took me all of about two weeks. The two expansions and the other extras (like the various "Challenges" where you need to kill a certain number of certain types of orcs within a certain number of minutes) didn't really keep me interested, and the actual end of the main story was rather anti-climactic.

During those two weeks, however, I couldn't pull myself away from the game, either by first learning how to finally take down those two nasty Chiefs that kept showing up and kicking my ass every time I tried to do anything, or by honing my skill enough to take on some of the most challenging or messy missions on the way through the campaign. My arms would hurt and I would worry about the integrity of my keyboard as I pounded away at it for hours on end.

Of course, as I was going through this, I learned that the sequel was to come out in the near future. Obviously the super-cheap sale price, which remained in place for a while after the main Steam Sale ended, was just to get as many people as possible hooked before dropping the Bigger Better and More Expensive version on the market.

I figure I'm going to do with Shadow of War as I've done with every major AAA title that's come out since Skyrim - put it off until a more complete version is out for much cheaper. By the looks of things, with all the extra details about micro transactions, I feel that the wait-and-see approach very much warranted in this case.
You don't think two weeks of holding your complete attention is worth more than 4 bucks? a movie is worth over twice that and lasts 2 hours. The first game is a bargain at retail price.
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Old 10-13-2017, 02:26 PM
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Well, The Machine finally passed through that Caragor I guess, because he's back. Now he's got an irritating smoke bomb escape and his entire head is bolted-together metal plates.

Ran into one of the troll captains at a really bad moment and he killed me AND broke my equipped sword! Did his nemesis mission & got the sword back & upgraded.

Ran into something that looked like a bug: a group of 5 orcs all ID'd as the same captain. It was really 1 captain and 4 normal orc lookalike bodyguards, as demonstrated by headshotting them all.
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Old 10-13-2017, 03:08 PM
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the only game I bought at that time that held my attention for any significant amount of time. Very much worth 4 bucks.

That said, I wouldn't consider it to be worth a lot more than that. I played the main story all the way through to the end, which took me all of about two weeks.
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Video games really are judged very harshly, aren't they.

The value of two weeks solid entertainment not worth much more than 4 bucks. Ok then.
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Old 10-13-2017, 03:17 PM
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My arms would hurt and I would worry about the integrity of my keyboard as I pounded away at it for hours on end.
Just out of curiosity, how many hours?
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Old 10-13-2017, 07:30 PM
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Is it me or do the orcs sound a little less orcy this time around?
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Old 10-14-2017, 07:18 PM
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Old 10-16-2017, 10:32 PM
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Some interesting (and quite valid) reactions to my assessment of the value of the original Shadow of Mordor. You're right, the two weeks of entertainment is absolutely worth more than the $4 I paid and was an absolute steal at that price. I just checked my Steam library and can report back to you that I have spent all of 84 hours in the game to date.

In comparison, during the same sale I bought the Bioshock trilogy, This War of Mine, Spintires, and the Half Life bundle, spending over $30 total for those (which happens to average about $4 for each individual game as well), and so far have 11 hours logged for all of them combined. So Shadow of Mordor was the clear winner from last July's binge.

However, all that said, I have to admit that if I had spent significantly more (like the $20 that is the current regular price), I would have probably regretted the purchase, mainly due to the lackluster expansions, the disappointing climax and, most of all, the lack of replayability.

The last game I spent $60 on was quite a while ago, and that game was Skyrim. To date, I have over 1600 hours in that game, not only due to being a very good game in its own right, but having quality expansions (which I had bought on sale and spent about $20), and the huge number of available mods keeps me coming back to that game nearly 6 years later. Possibly as a result, I have become far more stingy with my gaming dollar.

In comparison, Shadow of Mordor cannot be modded, so I don't expect anything different from Shadow of War. Not to mention, the regular $60 version is missing a good chunk of content that you'd have to buy the $80 version for, which in turn is missing yet another chunk of content that you'd have to buy the $100 version for. And then the reviews I've seen say the end-game becomes a grind-fest that clearly encourages spending even more money on micro-transactions. So for me, maybe in 3 years or so, perhaps they will have a GOTY version for $20 with all the stuff you have to pay $100 for today, plus maybe some more expansions that don't yet exist, and it's on sale for about half that price or even less, I just might get around to picking it up and not be too disappointed when the endgame ultimately burns me out.

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The end game is pure grind. The main game is the first three acts. Act IV is just defending and retaking your forts 30 times in a row, which unlocks a final cutscene. It should not be considered part of the main game, more like a new game + mode for people who really enjoyed the gameplay. I played it for 2-3 hours because the last quarter of the game got too easy with all my upgrades. (Summonable graug FTW.) That took me about 20-30% through Act 4. As far as I know there's nothing else to be gained in terms of story than that final 3 minute cutscene, which I watched on youtube before uninstalling the game.

I have mixed feelings. I would have welcomed more human-interest parts of the story. What happened to the last game's Lithariel, the female commander of Núrn? Hirgon and Eryn? Torvin? There's new replacement characters that precisely fill the void of the first three, but why not have them return and develop that relationship? Or at least not just completely ignore them. The new Lithariel - Eltariel, Galadriel's catspaw - has no story arch and a one-dimensional personality. Then again, the cards say that she'll be the main DLC character. So I guess we'll see.

Don't get me wrong - I enjoyed the game a lot, but I'm also quite disappointed in it. I was expecting more and better gameplay and I got it, but with an established cast and universe I had also fully expected them to devote more time and resources to developing the story and they didn't.
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This is 40% off on Steam atm, well worth it.
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This is 40% off on Steam atm, well worth it.
I'm wondering if it is on sale so soon because of people paying for loot boxes?
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No idea, I normally have zero problems paying for extra stuff in games but I've played the shit out of this and have felt no need or desire to buy loot boxes. It's all just random orcs and items, I've never felt like what I got in game was not enough.
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That is very reassuring to hear. I am still hearing about endgame grind, have you encountered that?
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The endgame does get a bit repetitive as you have to defend from sieges over and over again, but that is also the best content in the game to the point that the most requested feature post launch has been "endless sieges" which they just added yesterday. The story is basically done at that point, you just gotta keep playing the sieges for a few hours to get the last cut scene.

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I'm wondering if it is on sale so soon because of people paying for loot boxes?
It's Steam's Thanksgiving sale. It would be more worrisome if it WASN'T on discount.
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Also, Shelob looks exactly like Stoya and I'm having very conflicted feelings about that.
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