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Old 02-19-2013, 08:13 PM
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Archer time-frame - most recent cultural reference?

We all know Archer tries to be ambiguous about when the show is taking place - older characters all discuss WW2, the sets, politics and cars are pre-1973 as far as I can tell, but they've got pocket cell phones instead of bricks and bags and Burt Reynolds is old enough to date Mallory when he should be Archer's age. But what's the most recent thing they've mentioned? I started wondering when Cheryl talked about the Voight-Kampff machines from Blade Runner (1982, and Cyril released a virus on a CD-ROM (1982). The guns and equipment on the space station referenced Aliens (1986), but I can't recall anything more recent.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:28 PM
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I wonder if this is going to be the same sort of running "gag" that the Simpsons have with "which state is Springfield in?" when the answer is obviously that there is too much contradictory information for there to be any "right" answer.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:46 PM
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He calls karate "the Dane Cook of martial arts." According to Wikipedia, Cook got his big break in 1998, so there's that.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:13 PM
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I wonder if this is going to be the same sort of running "gag" that the Simpsons have with "which state is Springfield in?" when the answer is obviously that there is too much contradictory information for there to be any "right" answer.
Nah, this is much more definite - it should be easy to assign a date to every reference made on the show, as done above. I'm not trying to identify the time the show takes place. . In "Lo Scandolo" when Lana's talking about post-WW2 history, she asks Archer "What year do you think it is?" and he replies "That's a good question." They're never gonna let that get nailed down.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:21 PM
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Dane Cook breaking in the late 1990's completely contradicts the reel-to-reel mainframes, green-screened console computers they use and all the cars they drive.

They can't ever let it get nailed down because they've loaded it with so much contradictory information that it can't be happening in any particular year on Earth.

It's like saying they will never nail down which Springfield is in the Simpsons because it simply can't be done.

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Old 02-19-2013, 09:26 PM
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If I understand the OP correctly, he (or she) isn't trying to nail date the show's time frame, which is admittedly impossible because it's kept vague on purpose. Instead, the question is an objective one--what's the most recent thing referenced on the show? That should be relatively easy to determine.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:31 PM
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That's true. I wasn't really addressing the OP and I apologize for derailing it.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:31 PM
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I'm pretty sure that one episode had Cyril spill a bunch of computer punch cards he'd spent all weekend organizing; in the next scene, Pam is texting on her cell phone.
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:08 AM
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Just going through the cultural references listed on the Archer wikia, and listing the ones that are 1990s or later:

- "Training Day": Archer refers to Dane Cook (1998) and Alanis Morrisette (1995)
- "Killing Utne": Archer refers to a 1994 REM song
- "Blood Test": Lana tells Cyril that "sex addiction isn't a real disorder" and Cyril responds with "wait until the next DSM comes out". One of the proposed additions in DSM-V is hypersexual disorder. Was proposed in 2010.
- "Placebo Effect": In a reversal here, Krieger guesses that Archer's IV is filled with Zima, which stopped being produced in the US in 2008.
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:19 AM
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Archer referenced "the Rise of the Machines" a few episodes ago - the Terminator movie of that title having come out in 2003.
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:20 AM
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Does the Bob's Burgers reference count?
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:20 AM
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The show is most definitely set in the present day. They just fuck with your mind regarding certain details. The 'look' of the ISIS offices is clearly 1970s tech and 70s decor, the USSR still seems to exist (frequent mentioning of the KGB) etc. The creators just wanted to have a mix of old & new visuals.
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:19 AM
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"Does Internet Porn know you're cheating on it"?

Which could be from 1996 on, but I'd say really puts it closer to modern age.
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Old 02-24-2013, 01:44 AM
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In the most recent episode Mallory refered to Turkmenistan as being an independent country instead of part of the Soviet Union and reference it's insane dictator who renamed the months after himself.
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Old 02-24-2013, 01:55 AM
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Didn't Archer's manservant serve in WWI? Since I think pretty much every one of those vets is dead now, that argues for a time frame set further back.
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:02 AM
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This episode gave us when Archer was born. Mallory wasn't around for his sixth birthday because she was overthrowing Arbenz, which happened in '54.
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Old 02-24-2013, 03:54 AM
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Well, when they actually showed us Archer's birth on the counter at Woodhouse's bar in Tangiers, it was implied to have occurred during WWII.

I guess "Anachronism Stew" is the best way to put it.
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:42 AM
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Well, when they actually showed us Archer's birth on the counter at Woodhouse's bar in Tangiers, it was implied to have occurred during WWII.
I thought that was just Mallory working a mission after WW2. When she killed the Italian prime minister in "Lo Scandolo," wasn't it was for him killing a possible baby-daddy during Operation Gladio?
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:13 AM
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It's simple really. Sterling Archer is the same age as James Bond.

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Old 02-24-2013, 03:11 PM
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It's simple really. Sterling Archer is the same age as James Bond.
And probably always will be, if liver failure or some particularly virulent STD don't trip him up first.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:05 PM
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It's simple really. Sterling Archer is the same age as James Bond.
Exactly. I'm pretty sure I read that the creators (who have done most of the Adult Swim stuff) deliberately chose to mix things up this way. The most obvious thing that sets it in the present day is the presence of Lana, a black, female, secret agent. 'Nuff said!
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Old 02-27-2013, 02:33 AM
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The most obvious thing that sets it in the present day is the presence of Lana, a black, female, secret agent.
What, like Rosie Carver?
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:46 AM
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What, like Rosie Carver?
Had to look that up, but yeah exactly. Although Lana does dress sexily, she's not a ridiculous, giant afro-sporting, "jive-turkey" spouting, stereotype!
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:56 AM
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Exactly. I'm pretty sure I read that the creators (who have done most of the Adult Swim stuff) deliberately chose to mix things up this way. The most obvious thing that sets it in the present day is the presence of Lana, a black, female, secret agent. 'Nuff said!
Well, she is a quadroon.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:36 AM
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Had to look that up, but yeah exactly. Although Lana does dress sexily, she's not a ridiculous, giant afro-sporting, "jive-turkey" spouting, stereotype!
The afro was a wig! It's part of her cover! That's how good a secret agent she was! She puts it aside just like the jive-turkey spouting!

"The man who delivered your champagne is not a hotel waiter; I was just trying to be careful. As for Felix Leiter, you're right: I've worked for the CIA down here for some time now. He cabled me you were coming and asked if I would help out if I could."

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ROSIE: If all else failed, cyanide pills. I settled for two bedrooms. Good night, Mister Bond.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:28 AM
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Another vote for "We're never gonna know" and "What did they say last episode?" The fact that Krieger has holograms so advanced that the State of New York considers them human places the most recent reference a bit in the future, wouldn't you say?
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:40 AM
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Um, there's also a space station. And bionic legs. And Pam drives modern, Japanese-made drift cars.
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:08 AM
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Um, there's also a space station. And bionic legs.
And both MOONRAKER and THE SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN were made in the '70s.
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:14 AM
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Quite true. And didn't Mallory make some offhand racist remark about a black President in an early episode?
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:12 AM
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Quite true. And didn't Mallory make some offhand racist remark about a black President in an early episode?
And wrote Mandingo 2 BEFORE Django Unchained.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:41 PM
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Seems to me the "right" answer is "now", but in an alternate timeline.
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:07 PM
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Seems to me the "right" answer is "now", but in an alternate timeline.
A much AWESOMER timeline.
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Old 02-27-2013, 03:12 PM
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A much AWESOMER timeline.
A timeline located in a dimension not of sight and sound, but of mind. A place known as...

...the DANGER ZONE!
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Old 02-27-2013, 03:20 PM
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A timeline located in a dimension not of sight and sound, but of mind. A place known as...

...the DANGER ZONE!
Nah, that's for Navy pilots. Spies get an AWESOME ZONE.
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Old 02-27-2013, 03:22 PM
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In a slightly darker black tactalneck.
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:57 PM
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Just like the gypsy woman said.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:46 PM
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Sploosh.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:23 PM
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Sploosh.
And I'll have to give it my equivalent of sploosh. Which I guess is sploosh. Except with semen.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:56 PM
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Just like the gypsy woman said.
You've gotta stop going to her.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:32 AM
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Hmmm, it seems like any Archer or The Princess Bride thread ultimately devolves into quotes. Now let's go bury this dead hooker.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:53 AM
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I shall fetch a rug
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:54 AM
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You said she's a call girl!
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:08 AM
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Not even the other kind, actually.
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:23 AM
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You said she's a call girl!
No, muldoonthief, when they're dead, they're just hookers!
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:46 AM
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This is like O. Henry and Alanis Morrissette had a baby and named it this exact situation.
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Old 02-28-2013, 02:15 PM
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Wee baby Seamus!
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