I don't believe you when you say diet and exercise don't work. It's also kind of insulting.

[The Lurker Above]

Originally Posted by Ambivalid

Right. I was waiting for a definite answer from him before I responded but weighing oneself everyday is silly and counterproductive. It can suck the wind out of a person's sails due to the mis-perception that they aren't succeeding (because of daily flucuations in weight due to water, etc.). I'd say anything more than once every week or two is too much (my opinion of course).

Those daily fluctuations are still there when you weight yourself once a week too. And if my experience is normal those fluctuations are enough to drown out a healthy weekly weight loss.

I approach tracking my weight by thinking of the scale measurement as a combination of my 'true weight' plus or minus a random weight of water. I weight myself daily and plug the reading into a spreadsheet that automatically calculates and plots a moving average. With any luck averaging over five days cancels out the random noise and I get constant feedback without the alternating elation/disappointment.

[Ambivalid]

Originally Posted by The Lurker Above

Those daily fluctuations are still there when you weight yourself once a week too. And if my experience is normal those fluctuations are enough to drown out a healthy weekly weight loss.

I approach tracking my weight by thinking of the scale measurement as a combination of my 'true weight' plus or minus a random weight of water. I weight myself daily and plug the reading into a spreadsheet that automatically calculates and plots a moving average. With any luck averaging over five days cancels out the random noise and I get constant feedback without the alternating elation/disappointment.

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[pulykamell]

Originally Posted by The Lurker Above

Those daily fluctuations are still there when you weight yourself once a week too. And if my experience is normal those fluctuations are enough to drown out a healthy weekly weight loss.

I approach tracking my weight by thinking of the scale measurement as a combination of my 'true weight' plus or minus a random weight of water. I weight myself daily and plug the reading into a spreadsheet that automatically calculates and plots a moving average. With any luck averaging over five days cancels out the random noise and I get constant feedback without the alternating elation/disappointment.

Sure, that sounds like the most sensible approach. Weighing myself weekly, at exactly the same time of day (first thing in the morning for me) yielded consistent results, at least looking back at my diaries and weight notes. The important thing is not to get discouraged by a slight or even large uptick in your weight, or overly excited when you've lost a lot more than you think you should have. It might be water, you might have extra or less food in your digestive system, etc. It's the long-term trends that are important. I can drop at least 5 pounds from the scale right now if I wanted to just by going out on a run.

[Wheelz]

Originally Posted by bucketybuck

Nothing, not one single thing written in this thread by anybody trying to refute the OP has amounted to any more than, "Its hard and I can't do it".

I admit that I haven't read all 450 or so posts in this thread, but I suspect this is still true.

Look, I'm the fucking poster boy for junk food and inactivity. A couple years ago I decided I was tired of being so fat, so I started eating less junk food and being more active. Guess what, I still eat too much junk food and spend too much time on the couch, but I've swung the pendulum just enough, and I'm losing weight. I'm doing it a a snail's pace, but I'm doing it! And If I can do it, there are surely very few people who can't. I'm still fat, but I'm less fat than I used to be, and I plan to continue getting less fat little by little. Maybe one day I won't be fat at all.

My point is, this is what's working for me. Very small changes to my habits have produced results that have encouraged me to make other small changes, and so forth. It doesn't have to be dramatic and you don't have to lose 100 pounds in six months to consider yourself successful. Seeing those tiny, tiny differences in my weight week to week might lead me to say it's "impossible" to lose substantial amounts of weight, but tiny losses add up to small losses, and small losses add up to big losses. I'm living proof that it is indeed possible.

<pet peeve> Oh, and folks? You don't loose weight. You lose it. Grrr! </pp>

[Sicks Ate]

Originally Posted by The Lurker Above

Those daily fluctuations are still there when you weight yourself once a week too.

That's what weight loss really boils down to, it's it?

It's all about what the fluctuate.

[drewtwo99]

Originally Posted by Sicks Ate

That's what weight loss really boils down to, it's it?

It's all about what the fluctuate.

*clap*

That was pretty damn good.

[fachverwirrt]

Originally Posted by Snow Pea

My eye-rolling is at the mental midget who made this idiotic claim:

"Actually, juice-fasting drops about a pound a day for most people, and most people find it quite easy. Few know about it, though, most people who DO know about it dismiss it as crazy-people stuff, but it works like no other method."

So all of the commentary about

Originally Posted by Snow Pea

What part of "you must burn 3500 calories more than you eat in order to lose 1 pound of fat" don't you fatties understand?

and

When will you people learn that there is no short-cut and that you simply need to eat less and exercise more?

Was actually directed at a poster who posted once five days ago and hasn't been back to the thread and never identified themselves as fat, rather than the person you were quoting?

Interesting.

[DiosaBellissima]

Originally Posted by fachverwirrt

So all of the commentary about
and


Was actually directed at a poster who posted once five days ago and hasn't been back to the thread and never identified themselves as fat, rather than the person you were quoting?

Interesting.

I don't know if you heard, but I actually believe that juice fasting is the #1 key to legitimate fat loss and good health.

See? I thought I'd save Snow Pea the Wonder Douche some trouble and just write what he imagined I was saying, that way he doesn't have to skip over 3/4 of the words like he obviously did before. I mean, I get it, reading is hard.

[gamerunknown]

I weigh myself daily, in the morning. I know that different stages in digestion and water weight can alter the numbers, but I don't record aggregate data. I don't significantly alter my diet based on daily fluctuations. I just notice that if I stick to my current diet, I always either weigh less or the same day on day, whereas I gain if I don't (almost always due to eating outside of the house, or there being a party).

[DSeid]

Originally Posted by olivesmarch4th

... I injured my ankle during that kickboxing session that I really wasn't fit enough to do. It's actually part of the reason I got derailed from my last attempt to lose weight. It appears to be a permanent injury. Months later I have some pain just walking on it - not excruciating, but enough to concern me. So I have declared a moratorium on anything less strenuous than walking at least until the pain improves. I'm really not kidding when I say I want to take this slow. ...

I am very sorry to hear that, and also I feel a bit guilty. When you had told us all how much you enjoyed the class I had encouraged you to stick with it, albeit toning it down some, even in the face of having experienced some delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS ... the fitness world loves their acronymns!) Next thing we knew you had hurt yourself and are now long term out of doing much fitness-wise ... Damn.

Slow is good!

[MsWhatsit]

Originally Posted by olivesmarch4th

DSeid, I injured my ankle during that kickboxing session that I really wasn't fit enough to do. It's actually part of the reason I got derailed from my last attempt to lose weight. It appears to be a permanent injury. Months later I have some pain just walking on it - not excruciating, but enough to concern me. So I have declared a moratorium on anything less strenuous than walking at least until the pain improves. I'm really not kidding when I say I want to take this slow. Right now my goal is not to lose weight, but to successfully keep sweets out of the house. Once that's a habit, ingrained, I'll move on to the next thing. And eventually there will be enough permanent changes that weight loss will be a natural side-effect.

I don't know if you've maybe already done this, but it would definitely be worth seeing a specialist about your ankle pain. I injured my shoulder partially as a result of doing a kickboxing-style aerobics program (those things are deadly) and thought the injury was permanent. Actually, it was something that was fixable with a relatively simple surgical procedure and several weeks of physical therapy. The surgery was a little over a year ago and my shoulder is pain-free 95% of the time and I have full function in it. So if you haven't been to see somebody about the ankle, I'd urge you to do so.

[olivesmarch4th]

Originally Posted by DSeid

I am very sorry to hear that, and also I feel a bit guilty. When you had told us all how much you enjoyed the class I had encouraged you to stick with it, albeit toning it down some, even in the face of having experienced some delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS ... the fitness world loves their acronymns!) Next thing we knew you had hurt yourself and are now long term out of doing much fitness-wise ... Damn.

Slow is good!

It was a choice I made, so don't feel bad. I can't tell you how many times I have injured myself by pushing too hard too fast. I really should have known better by now.

It doesn't hurt constantly or anything, just when I walk for more than 20 minutes or so. And it seems to be getting a little stronger after every walk.

If it doesn't get better within a couple of weeks of walking, I will see a doctor.