View Poll Results: Vote for 1 Democratic primary candidate:
Joe Biden, former VP 33 62.26%
Kirsten Gillibrand, Senator (NY) 20 37.74%
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Old 02-18-2019, 03:40 PM
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Democratic Madness, North Final: Biden/Gillibrand


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Old 02-18-2019, 06:22 PM
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Oh my God, is this an easy pick. See ya, Gillibrand. To quote Hamilton (as everyone should): "ya best g'wan run back where ya came from."
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Biden, not even close. Gillinbrand still needs to suffer for the Franken knifing.
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Uncle Joe is too damn old.
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:57 PM
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I like Biden, I really do, but I second Folacin--he's too old. I also think the luster will wear off pretty quickly once he actually gets into the race, assuming he does.

I also like Gillibrand. I go back and forth on the Franken thing (curious to know whether those who reject Gillibrand because of it also reject Harris, who was one of the first to join forces with her), but it's fair to say that one of her signature issues has been sexual assault in the military--hard for her to ignore this one under those circumstances. Anyway, Gillibrand has spent her time winning elections--winning pretty decisively in races that should be tossups or in which she should be the underdog, and winning overwhelmingly (in a very diverse state) in races that she should win.

Like 'em both, but for now I prefer Gillibrand.
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Not hard for me. Gillibrand is somewhere at the top end of my fuzzily defined list and Biden is...not. (And every time I see someone carp about the Franken thing, she rises a notch higher.)

Uncle Joe can go out being remembered as a beloved fixture of the party who went on to valediction as Barack Obama's vice president, or he can go out being remembered as the Senator from Visa who was a buddy of Strom Thurmond and put Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court. If he runs, it will be the latter. (I've said before that I wish he'd run in 2016 because his loss would have led to a much cleaner finish to that whole ordeal, and maybe Clinton wouldn't have been bogged down by all the conspiracy idiots who think she stole the primaries.)

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Uncle Joe can go out being remembered as a beloved fixture of the party who went on to valediction as Barack Obama's vice president, or he can go out being remembered as the Senator from Visa who was a buddy of Strom Thurmond and put Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court. If he runs, it will be the latter.
Please!

Nobody under thirty knows or cares who Strom Thurmond was.

The litany of high-society misdeeds in the news over the past few years makes Clarence Thomas look like Mr. Rogers.

Yeah, he'd face an uphill battle going against Trump, but so would anyone else. I don't think he deserves to be written off like this.
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I like Gillibrand, but the mission here is to deal with the assumption that Trump is on the ballot in 2020 and not in jail, and to prevent another four years of disaster. From that standpoint Uncle Joe is a better bet than what, to many people, would be "Kirsten who?".
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Joe Biden looks retired to me. He has even taken money to campaign for a Republican officeholder.

I'd take KG over him, easily.
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Don't much care for either, voted Gillebrand because she isn't ancient.
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Old 02-20-2019, 02:17 PM
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I voted Gillibrand. I like them both but it does seem like Biden's career has run its course. That, and I think Gillibrand's bulldog approach is more in line with the moment that the aw shucks Uncle Joe approach. Still, it is so early and I am paying so little attention to 2020 that it would be easy to change my mind.

If I could, I would vote "don't eliminate either of them yet."
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