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Old 09-14-2017, 07:12 PM
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The more you think about it, the dumber it is.

She says "Gimme money" and you say no. Then she... spends hours making a convincing video for free? Then I guess she has to show it to you first because if she just sends it to your mom she's effectively shot the hostage and isn't going to get paid anyway.

"Pay me!"
"No!"
"Pay me or I'll do hours worth of work and ask you to pay me again!"
That's why it's brilliant, it's a win-win. I get to force her to make the video and get the satisfaction of saying "nope, that ain't me".
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Old 09-14-2017, 08:19 PM
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It's unbelievable I know but some people don't want videos of them masterbating sent to their auntie or their kids kindergarten teacher. Hoomans are strange.
I'll bet they do something strange, like the lefty thing. Or maybe they have a really goofy "O" face.
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Old 09-14-2017, 08:39 PM
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The person exists in real life, all right, and I talked to her on Skype in a video chat, but now she claims to have captured video footage of my head and face from the Skype webcam and says she could upload a fake video of me "masturbating" and send it to my family and friends and also put it on YouTube to ruin my life. (She found my Facebook page, too.)
I haven't read the whole thread yet so I'm sure others have already commented on this but, it's very difficult to make a fake video like that and have it look at all realistic. The person would need access to fairly high-end software and a production person with extensive knowledge/experience of creating such a work.
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Old 09-14-2017, 08:42 PM
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You may also want to research what the laws are in your state about this type of blackmail using sexual images over the internet. Some states have laws that specifically target this (with real or faked images), but some do not.
Wouldn't it be a violation of federal law? Some kind of interstate commerce thing (even if she is physically in the same state)?


ETA: regarding the difficulty of making a convincing fake video: I suppose it would be much easier to make a convincing fake STILL with a screen grab from the video... but it would still not be easy.

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Old 09-14-2017, 09:15 PM
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Apparently these blackmailers usually target certain countries such as n the Middle East where it would be embarrassing to have a wank video published. I read an article somewhere about them getting people to jerk off and then they blackmail them.
That sounds a lot more plausible than the OP's story. OP jerked off on video and got blackmailed, but was too embarrassed to admit it. So after reading a thread here on the SDMB (which he links in the OP) about the possibility of future technologies potentially faking video, he concocts a ridiculous story, hoping to save face while still getting practical advice for the real situation.
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Old 09-14-2017, 10:18 PM
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Personally I'd tell them to go for it, but I've also got a tattoo that would show up in any porn starring me so the fake would be easy to disprove.

My guess is that she/they would try splicing together footage from your Skype session with some amateur video available by the gigabyte on pornhub and try to pass it off as real.

You might try bluffing and tell her that without your tattoo in the video there's no way anyone would believe it.
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Old 09-14-2017, 10:56 PM
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Wouldn't it be a violation of federal law? Some kind of interstate commerce thing (even if she is physically in the same state)?


ETA: regarding the difficulty of making a convincing fake video: I suppose it would be much easier to make a convincing fake STILL with a screen grab from the video... but it would still not be easy.
And frankly, if all she needed was his face and she already found his Facebook, why would she need to set him up to do a video w/ her? And why wouldn't she have made strangely sexy requests in the video rather than tame chat in order to get the right expressions for faking a masturbation video?
As others suspect, I also think he likely did masturbate on video w/ her encouragement and that's what she's using in her attempt to blackmail him. This may well be her full-time job, and from another country so she can't be busted for it.
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Old 09-14-2017, 11:08 PM
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That sounds a lot more plausible than the OP's story. OP jerked off on video and got blackmailed, but was too embarrassed to admit it. So after reading a thread here on the SDMB (which he links in the OP) about the possibility of future technologies potentially faking video, he concocts a ridiculous story, hoping to save face while still getting practical advice for the real situation.
I understand that sounds more plausible - and if I were you or Nawth Chucka I'd suspect the same too - but that is simply not what happened. Didn't take off my clothes, didn't show my cock, etc.
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Old 09-14-2017, 11:28 PM
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...what's the threat: people will know that an adult masturbates?
"Your son/employee/neighbor is the sort of person who emails women he just met with unwanted explicit video of himself performing sexual acts. I'm sorry to send this lewd material to you, but I didn't want to go to the police over this harassment since I think he just needs help for his psychological problem...."
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Old 09-15-2017, 12:23 AM
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I understand that sounds more plausible - and if I were you or Nawth Chucka I'd suspect the same too - but that is simply not what happened. Didn't take off my clothes, didn't show my cock, etc.
This may not be much consolation, but she was always going to do this to you given the chance. It's not that she decided you're a sucker after getting to know you, it's that she's a con artist who's skillful at what she does.
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Old 09-15-2017, 09:09 AM
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I find the OP's story very plausible, and think all the rebuttals are unconvincing.

ISTM that the premise underlying all the suspicion is that the whole idea of these videos is no big deal to begin with, so if you could "refute" them being you then all is well (and a further assumption that the woman herself knows this to be a widespread attitude).

However, as Loach observed earlier, this is not the reality of most people's mindsets - agree or not, most people would be extremely distressed at having video of themselves masturbating distributed to their friends and relatives etc.

Further, it's extremely common for faked pictures, or even video (e.g. "Obama kicking in the door" comes to mind), to circulate on the internet, and fool quite a lot of people. You get all these discussions with experts and self-declared experts debating back-and-forth whether this or that picture is real or not, with in-depth analysis of subtle signs this way and that way. If someone sent out photo-shopped pictures of someone else masturbating it's very unlikely that their friends and relatives etc. would analyze it in enough depth to determine one way or the other, and in any event many people tend to be taken in by these, as above.

I myself have never engaged in any online chats with any female strangers so it's not like there would even be any basis for someone to tie something like this to me, but if someone would contact me with a threat to distribute photo-shopped pictures of me engaging in sex acts I would not be pleased. I'd like to think I would resist blackmail under any circumstances and especially dubious circumstances like this one, but the facts are that many people are willing to pay up to blackmailer, and it's a reasonable shot for a scammer to take.

And it's not like every scam is based on a coldly calculated and accurate assessment of the likelihood of this or that scam working. People are thinking of this in terms of some vast business enterprise headed up by a shrewd big-time scammer, but it might be some pathetic amateur down on her luck and looking for cash for her next fix, and trying something similar to what she's heard of other people pulling.

Bottom line, again, I think the skepticism is unwarranted. Of course, you never know, as with everything else posted to this or any MB.
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Old 09-15-2017, 11:42 AM
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Apparently these blackmailers usually target certain countries such as n the Middle East where it would be embarrassing to have a wank video published. I read an article somewhere about them getting people to jerk off and then they blackmail them.
I know it's come up more than twice in my career but the two similar cases I remember one involved a Muslim man. His case also had a threat of financial extortion. The other case involved an under age girl. With her the guy wanted her to continue to do sexual things on camera for him. It is extremely hard to find out the identity of the suspect and they are often overseas.
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Old 09-15-2017, 12:21 PM
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It kinda depends on the content of the video, too. If it's a splice of the OP's head chatting about Brexit or the iPhone X while he's supposedly jackin' it, it'll be less convincing than if he's moaning "oh YEAH... oh YEAH!!!"
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Old 09-15-2017, 12:51 PM
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Personally I'd tell them to go for it, but I've also got a tattoo that would show up in any porn starring me so the fake would be easy to disprove.
Does it say, "Welcome to Jamaica, Mon! Have a Nice Day!"?



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Old 09-15-2017, 01:22 PM
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It kinda depends on the content of the video, too. If it's a splice of the OP's head chatting about Brexit or the iPhone X while he's supposedly jackin' it, it'll be less convincing than if he's moaning "oh YEAH... oh YEAH!!!"
Have you met Apple fans?
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