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Old 05-19-2017, 05:28 PM
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:29 PM
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Also, what if some people had a very difficult childhood and their dad beat them and constantly called his child an asshole, should that person not be offended if someone calls them asshole later in life??
I think we want to hear your dad's side of the story before passing judgement.
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:34 PM
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Anywho, the whole point of my previous post was, if MLB is gonna suspend people for slurs thats fine, but lets be fair and make it equal across the board and suspend EVERYONE for ANY type of slur
Because everything in life is equivalent, right? Jaywalking and robbery are both crimes - why don't we punish both offenders the same? not fair. NOT FAAAIRRR.
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:38 PM
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Hmmm.
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:42 PM
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A shocking turn of events.

Don't worry, Esco. There aren't any gay people out there who want to touch your pee pee. Or any other part of you.
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:44 PM
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Also, what if some people had a very difficult childhood and their dad beat them and constantly called his child an asshole, should that person not be offended if someone calls them asshole later in life??
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:55 PM
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<George Takei> Oh, myyyyyy! </GT>
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:02 PM
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A shocking turn of events.

Don't worry, Esco. There aren't any gay people out there who want to touch your pee pee. Or any other part of you
Thank god for that

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Old 05-19-2017, 06:03 PM
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I think we want to hear your dad's side of the story before passing judgement
Right, so now you're mocking my abusive family history, is that right??
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:04 PM
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Thank god for that
Why are you so afraid of gay people?
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:06 PM
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Right, so now you're mocking my abusive family history, is that right??
Man, nothing gets past you, does it?
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:12 PM
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Why are you so afraid of gay people?
They just dont get my penis erect.

Sorry
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:33 PM
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They just dont get my penis erect.

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You're afraid of things that don't get your penis erect?
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Old 05-19-2017, 07:25 PM
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You're afraid of things that don't get your penis erect?
At at mostly 3.6 inches erect, not very much
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Old 05-19-2017, 07:37 PM
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You're masturbating right now, aren't you?
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Old 05-19-2017, 07:39 PM
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Ewww.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:06 PM
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Right, so now you're mocking my abusive family history, is that right??
Yes, I am.

But I'm just mocking you. I'm not mocking millions of other people besides you.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:14 PM
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Yes, I am.

But I'm just mocking you. I'm not mocking millions of other people besides you
Right! Gotcha

Answer me this please, why do you gay guys keep asking for approval and acceptance from the straight community??!!
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:16 PM
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Why are you so afraid of gay people?
I'm not. I love you to death, sweetiepie
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:18 PM
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:20 PM
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Right! Gotcha

Answer me this please, why do you gay guys keep asking for approval and acceptance from the straight community??!!
hmmmm... Why do supposedly straight guys sometimes fixate so much on hot man on man sex?

Here's your answer. This is you, right?
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:24 PM
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I guess everything I had typed up was already said. I hope OP gets why this isn't just about one guy accepting the apology, or just about a bad word. They want to send a message that you can't just apologize and get no punishment. And the slur insults all gay people. Oh, and you don't accidentally slip and say these words unless they are already in your vocabulary.

Also, unrelated to anything, do any of you think that some trolls may actually be defending people by taking the ire off them and making them seem fine by comparison?
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:31 PM
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hmmmm... Why do supposedly straight guys sometimes fixate so much on hot man on man sex?

Here's your answer. This is you, right?
OMG????!!!!!!

You got me!!!!!!!
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:14 PM
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OMG????!!!!!!

You got me!!!!!!!
All kidding aside, though, you do seem very fixated on man on man sex acts which does usually mean that there is some attraction to males.
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:19 PM
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Answer me this please, why do you gay guys keep asking for approval and acceptance from the straight community??!!
Swing and a miss.

I'm not gay. Nor am I disturbed by people who are gay.
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:42 PM
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I'm not.
You've made it obvious you are.

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I give you an erection? Thanks, I guess, but no thanks.

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Old 05-20-2017, 01:36 AM
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You've made it obvious you are.



I give you an erection? Thanks, I guess, but no thanks
I feel so rejected
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Old 05-20-2017, 01:39 AM
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You're masturbating right now, aren't you?
Furiously!!

Is there any other way to masturbate???
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Old 05-20-2017, 02:32 AM
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Can I just say that I love everyone, and I just want a group-hug right now
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Old 05-20-2017, 06:01 AM
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If a 2-day suspension constitutes crucifixion,
It's actually worse, even Jesus was suspended only one day.
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Old 05-20-2017, 10:52 AM
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BTW, not a negative word about Jose Bautista flipping the bat after homering in the eighth? Are there no standards at all any more?
Yes, it's embarrassing to have to relate the transgressions occurring in modern baseball to semi-fans.

I had to tell Mrs. J. that one Jays player uttered a homophobic slur which was so grievous that the sports media couldn't tell us what word he used, because even adults cannot be exposed to it.* And then, another Jays' player hit a home run and tossed his bat aside in an insolent and provocative manner.

I'm surprised anyone is allowed to attend MLB games anymore given such dreadful behavior.

*not that the player wasn't at fault, but the prissiness of the media is beyond belief.
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Old 05-20-2017, 10:58 AM
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So you are gay.
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Old 05-20-2017, 11:15 AM
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It's actually worse, even Jesus was suspended only one day.
And they even took him down before sundown!
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Old 05-20-2017, 08:08 PM
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Ryan Getzlaf of the Anaheim Ducks has been fined $10,000 by the Ducks for an "inapropriate" remark that was "demeaning and disrespectful". Apparently the thing he said was aimed at an on-ice official (oops) and, according to those who were there and are lip-readers, he called the official a "fucking cocksucker." He was not suspendded. Ok. But the media is referring to his remark as "homophobic" and a "homophobic slur." My question is: is cocksucker homophobic? Because that had never occurred to me as being homophobic any more than asshole is; it's a pretty generic insult, isn't it?
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Old 05-20-2017, 08:21 PM
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My question is: is cocksucker homophobic? Because that had never occurred to me as being homophobic any more than asshole is; it's a pretty generic insult, isn't it?
I had always treated it as such, but I've learned (and understand the reasoning) that it is the same as calling something gay (another thing I stopped doing about 1/4 century ago).

It's getting tougher to insult people without offending a third party somewhere else.
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Old 05-20-2017, 08:55 PM
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Really? Are you two from the moon or something?

Calling a man a cocksucker is literally accusing him of engaging in homosexual acts. This is not an if you squint at it in the dark it might look a little homophobic kind of insult. It couldn't be more straightforwardly homophobic.
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Old 05-20-2017, 09:02 PM
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It's always interested me how people don't notice the literal meaning of common insults. It's fun when people realize "motherfucker" means someone who has had sex with his own mom. (Though, as mild as it's considered nowadays, many think it means someone who fucks other people's moms.)

I remember when I figured out what calling someone a douchebag literally meant.
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Old 05-20-2017, 11:51 PM
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Really? Are you two from the moon or something?

Calling a man a cocksucker is literally accusing him of engaging in homosexual acts. This is not an if you squint at it in the dark it might look a little homophobic kind of insult. It couldn't be more straightforwardly homophobic.
I realized it a while back, which is why I stopped using it long ago unless directly quoting Al Swearengen or Mister Wu (and Deadwood has been off the air so long that I don't do that much anymore). And it's not homophobic - it's insulting to homosexuals (and presumably women who suck cocks - I guess it implies sluttiness) when used to insult someone, whether or not the target is gay (or a slut, or both). There is a difference. Once I put two and two together and realized that calling someone a cocksucker was implying that there was something wrong with being gay (which happened long before the internet or even Seinfeld telling me "not that there's anything wrong with that" and when I could count the number of people I knew were gay on the fingers of one hand), I stopped using it. When I insult someone, I'm looking to get under the skin of the target rather than an accurate description. However, terms like "gay" and "cocksucker" don't just hit the intended target. Neither does "son of a bitch", but I still use that one.

Anyone who has had more than one child with the same woman (or any number of other variations on the theme) is technically a "mother fucker", and many are happily "mother fuckers" repeatedly. Yet most, if not all, of them know that if called a "mother fucker" by a third party, it is highly likely meant as an insult (probably because the mother implied though rarely clarified is the targets own).
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Old 05-21-2017, 06:28 AM
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Old 05-21-2017, 12:51 PM
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Really? Are you two from the moon or something?

Calling a man a cocksucker is literally accusing him of engaging in homosexual acts. This is not an if you squint at it in the dark it might look a little homophobic kind of insult. It couldn't be more straightforwardly homophobic.
So, since I am a woman, if I call another women a cocksucker it's ok then?
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Old 05-21-2017, 01:30 PM
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So, since I am a woman, if I call another women a cocksucker it's ok then?
Pretty sure I'd be insulted, being a lesbian and all.
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Old 05-21-2017, 01:52 PM
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Well then. The answer seems to be that it is just nearly impossible to insult an individual person without insulting an entire group of people you have no desire to insult. So, we ARE going to become a kinder, gentler people, then. (I know this sounds very snarky but actually I am serious. How can I tell someone they are a steaming sack of shit without resorting to really ugly images like that?)
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Old 05-21-2017, 02:12 PM
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So, since I am a woman, if I call another women a cocksucker it's ok then?
I don't know if it's OK, but you are definitely implying that she at least occasionally puts penises in her mouth. Perhaps intimating that she is some kind of slut. That is not homophobic.

However, when you call a man a cocksucker you are also implying that he at least occasionally puts penises in his mouth. This is straight up homophobia.

Let me know if you have any other questions.
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Old 05-21-2017, 03:50 PM
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(I know this sounds very snarky but actually I am serious. How can I tell someone they are a steaming sack of shit without resorting to really ugly images like that?)
What i would ask you is: if you're worried that not being able to call someone a faggot or a cocksucker or a motherfucker somehow limits your ability to insult them, then why are you apparently squeamish about calling them a steaming sack of shit?
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Old 05-21-2017, 06:49 PM
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I specifically said that I don't use the word "faggot". I never thought about "cocksucker" in this way but you all have clarified that for me.
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Old 05-23-2017, 08:25 AM
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Old 05-23-2017, 09:06 AM
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I never thought about "cocksucker" in this way but you all have clarified that for me.
FWIW, I totally understand. While the literal meaning of the word is clear to me in retrospect, it never occurred to me that it was a homophobic slur until far later in life, maybe not even until college. "Faggot" was a very clear accusation of homosexuality but, for some reason, the more literal and easier to figure out through its constituent parts "cocksucker" wasn't, at least not that I observed (and it seems several posters have similar observations.)
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:19 AM
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Why would I care if you're gay? I'm straight. (I know you've been trying to insult me by implying that I'm gay, but not being homophobic I don't regard it as an insult.) On the other hand, if I were gay, I certainly wouldn't be attracted to someone who was as petrified of gay people as you.

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Old 05-23-2017, 01:56 PM
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On the other hand, if I were gay, I certainly wouldn't be attracted to someone who was as petrified of gay people as you
Why do you (or gays) care so much whether I like you or not?? Or whether I'm petrified of you or not??

If I dont bother you, or prevent you from getting a job, or throw you out of your apartment, then what do you care what I think of gay people??
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:24 PM
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Why do you (or gays) care so much whether I like you or not?? Or whether I'm petrified of you or not??

If I dont bother you, or prevent you from getting a job, or throw you out of your apartment, then what do you care what I think of gay people??
What you don't seem to understand is that by defending or minimizing the use of anti-gay slurs, as you have here, you are doing damage. By saying it's ok to use anti-gay slurs, you are giving support to those who do want to discriminate against them.
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