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Old 02-20-2006, 11:57 PM
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50 Horror Classics. How?

I've been seeing ads for 50 Horror Classics. A lot of the films are hard to come by. Some of them really are Horror Classics. But I have a question.

There are 60 hours of video on five DVDs. That's 12 hours per disc. Just guessing, but I think the longest DVDs I have hold maybe six hours. How do they get 12 hours of video onto each disc?
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Old 02-21-2006, 12:00 AM
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I've been seeing ads for 50 Horror Classics. A lot of the films are hard to come by. Some of them really are Horror Classics. But I have a question.

There are 60 hours of video on five DVDs. That's 12 hours per disc. Just guessing, but I think the longest DVDs I have hold maybe six hours. How do they get 12 hours of video onto each disc?
They are probably using the DVD-18 format. Also, a higher compression rate since most of the movies are black & white and mono.
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Old 02-21-2006, 12:05 AM
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Ah. So they are, in effect, like 12 six-hour single-sided DVDs. I didn't think about the lower density of B&W films. (I did see at least one colour film in the commercial.)
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Old 02-21-2006, 12:07 AM
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I mean 10 single-sided DVDs.
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Old 02-21-2006, 12:30 AM
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Hm. The commercial is on again. It says four DVDs. The website says five. And the DVDs they show have artwork on the front -- single sided. (Of course, they appear to be generated and may not depict the actual product.)
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Old 02-21-2006, 02:06 AM
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Does the website have a complete list of the 50 films? If so, you might wanna check 'em against IMDB and add up the running times. I highly suspect that the "60 hours" boast is somewhat exaggerated (a common tactic for these kind of products.)

Six hours per disc side (assuming they're DVD-18's) is horribly compressed. That's visually equivalent to VHS in SLP mode. Expect to see lots of artifacts, pixelation, and other problems that plague highly compressed DVDs.

I don't even want to imagine what 12 hours per DVD would look like, if in fact they are single-sided!!
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I think they are the same set I have on a 12 dvd set, two on each side of a dvd. The titles look similar some good ones and alot of cheese. If you like cheesy movies you'll love these.
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Old 02-21-2006, 09:25 AM
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Does the website have a complete list of the 50 films? If so, you might wanna check 'em against IMDB and add up the running times. I highly suspect that the "60 hours" boast is somewhat exaggerated (a common tactic for these kind of products.)
The website doesn't have a list, but they do have a low-res version of the commercial where they rush the titles by quickly. They do say 'full length'. That would be an average of 1:12 per film, so I suspect they have some short ones.
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I think they are the same set I have on a 12 dvd set, two on each side of a dvd.
Do you have the title and the source?
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Old 02-21-2006, 09:49 AM
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If you check eBay you will see a number of compilations like this floating around -- classic musicals, classic comedies, etc. A lot of these are (or contain some) movies whose copyrights have lapsed into the public domain (such as As The Clouds Roll By or My Man Godfrey) -- the kind you can download freely from The Internet Archive. They've also been highly compressed to about 1/4 to 1/8th their original size and have a minimal menu and, as you probably guess, no extra features. The quality of these varies -- typically the compression is quite noticeable in dark scenes and in the gradations of black & white movies in particular. In some of them you can even see the block noise from the extreme compression.

Still some of them are a decent deal if you don't feel like spending the time to download the PD ones.
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Old 02-21-2006, 10:12 AM
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Amazon has a similar set. I'm not sure if it's the same but there are lots of reviews.
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Old 02-21-2006, 11:23 AM
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Incidentally, 90% of the films in these compilations are mediocre movies that no one considers to be more than random, typical films of the era.
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Incidentally, 90% of the films in these compilations are mediocre movies that no one considers to be more than random, typical films of the era.
Get yerself a couple of smart-ass robots and have at them.
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Old 02-21-2006, 01:24 PM
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Those are 50 films with a total of 60 hours of motion picture.

That's an average of 72 minutes per film. Doesn't seem as if there were too many feature-length films in this collection.
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Incidentally, 90% of the films in these compilations are mediocre movies that no one considers to be more than random, typical films of the era.
The man wants some tentacles and robots, then let the man get some tentacles and robots! Back to Sundance with you!
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Would I be incorrect in guessing that a black-and-white movie would only take up approximately 1/3 the space of a color movie of the same quality?
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The man wants some tentacles and robots, then let the man get some tentacles and robots! Back to Sundance with you!
Exactly! Sounds to me as if some Fellini love wants to make us all get culture!
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Old 02-21-2006, 06:36 PM
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The man wants some tentacles and robots, then let the man get some tentacles and robots! Back to Sundance with you!
Damn straight!
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Would I be incorrect in guessing that a black-and-white movie would only take up approximately 1/3 the space of a color movie of the same quality?
Yes, you would be incorrect to assume that. In fact, it's been my experience that B&W films are somewhat harder to compress than color films. Those shades of grey can wreak havoc with blockiness & pixelation, especially in dark scenes!
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I have this in the 12 disk set. I also have the 50 Chiller classics, and have the 50 Science fiction classics on the way.

It's a great way to catch older movies you want to watch.

All are available on ebay and Amazon.
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Old 02-21-2006, 07:20 PM
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They've also been highly compressed to about 1/4 to 1/8th their original size and have a minimal menu and, as you probably guess, no extra features..
A bit off topic, but a while back I got the DVD of Splitting Heirs for $5.99 from deepdiscountdvd.com. It's the only DVD I've ever seen that has no menu at all. When you put the disc in, it just starts playing; and when the movie's over, it loops back to the beginning and plays again until you eject it.
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