How do I delete my acount? - Page 2

Hbns · #51 06-26-2012, 05:10 PM

Frosty Camel you might find a better source of information and much more understanding over on the MADD Victim Support and Healing forum. Though to be fair, it doesn't look as if there has been any activity over there in the past 6 months or longer. :-/

This can be a great forum to interact on, but right now you have some really special circumstances and needs and may want to google around for a "victim support" type forum to work those issues out in. One thing the people here are good at doing is finding crap on the internet, if you asked I am sure you would get many links in response for forums and support groups that might be better suited to your needs at this time.

Musicat · #52 06-26-2012, 05:16 PM

Frosty Camel, can you link to a news article about your tragedy?

Is this required? No, but it would help support your credibility. We're a bit gunshy at the moment.

If you go off in a huff, claiming this is an unreasonable request, it will tend to undermine your credibility.

It's your choice.

Chronos · #53 06-26-2012, 05:18 PM

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It absolutely pisses me off that I have to defend myself here.

You don't have to defend yourself. If you've decided that this community is such a poor match for you that you want to remove all trace of a connection between you and us (which, if you're telling the truth, is a quite reasonable decision under the circumstances), then you shouldn't give a damn what any of us think. If some people here think you're lying for a little while before quickly forgetting about you, it won't make any difference whatsoever.

Giraffe · #54 06-26-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty Camel

It absolutely pisses me off that I have to defend myself here. Who here is a fucking expert on how a man in his late 30's is supposed to act when his entire life is wiped out in one swift stroke?

I'm not, but I think you're doing exactly what most experts agree you should do: join a large general discussion forum and then get angry when people you don't know don't give you the kind of support you're looking for. It's supposed to be very therapeutic.

What you're not supposed to do, under any circumstances, is talk to real life family or friends or join one of the many online forums for grief / bereavement. No good could come of that. Only anonymous communities for people to shoot the shit about their daily lives can give you the help you need.

billfish678 · #55 06-26-2012, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Giraffe

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What you're not supposed to do, under any circumstances, is talk to real life family or friends or join one of the many online forums for grief / bereavement. No good could come of that. Only anonymous communities for people to shoot the shit about their daily lives can give you the help you need.

Oh baloney.

Lets assume Frosty is telling the truth. Shit yeah he should get a therapist, join a real life therapy group and probably a bunch of other things.

But I've seen some damn good advice given here. Hour and hours and pages and pages worth of it. I rarey read an advice thread where at some point I don't go "damn, thats a good point". And it's in a permanent form so you can mull it over and over. Not like a therapist that babbles for a half hour where you go "yeah...yeah..yeah" then forget most of it by the time you get back to the car. Yeah, loads of BS too. But if you have enough of a brain to sort the shit from the shinola you can get a lot of good help here. And it's free and not's bothering your neighbors or STILL living family members or coworkers, who probably don't want to put as much time into helping you or even listening to your problems as some people here (in aggregate) are willing to do.

Is this the ONLY place one should get advice? Hell no. Is it the bestest place? Maybe not. Is it as bad a youtube or 4chan? Hell no.

expectopatronum · #56 06-26-2012, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Giraffe

I'm not, but I think you're doing exactly what most experts agree you should do: join a large general discussion forum and then get angry when people you don't know don't give you the kind of support you're looking for. It's supposed to be very therapeutic.

What you're not supposed to do, under any circumstances, is talk to real life family or friends or join one of the many online forums for grief / bereavement. No good could come of that. Only anonymous communities for people to shoot the shit about their daily lives can give you the help you need.

love you giraffe, mean it, but i think you're off the mark here. he explained in his initial post about this situation that the last of his family had gone back home and he was left alone for the first time since it happened. i agree it is essential to lean on any IRL support you may have, but people also have their own lives and can't always be there when the loneliness kicks in and the urge to talk to someone becomes overwhelming.

IvoryTowerDenizen · #57 06-26-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by expectopatronum

love you giraffe, mean it, but i think you're off the mark here. he explained in his initial post about this situation that the last of his family had gone back home and he was left alone for the first time since it happened. i agree it is essential to lean on any IRL support you may have, but people also have their own lives and can't always be there when the loneliness kicks in and the urge to talk to someone becomes overwhelming.

Exactly. I've seen incredible support given here when posters spouses, children or other loved ones died. He was lonely, had called a friend who couldn't make it over immediately and needed some "company" to get through a tough moment.

It may not be for everyone, but it's a legit form of support and reaching out. We don't have to be that cynical- even anonymous support can get you through.

TubaDiva · #58 06-26-2012, 06:58 PM

We are not normally so cynical.

And this community can be very supportive and very caring -- Quasi comes to mind, and Bearflag, and chique, right off the top of my head.

However, these are people who have been with us a while and were known entities when they ran into bad things. So it was easier for people to believe and accept and reach out to help.

Add in what we just went through and, well, "once bitten, twice shy."

I'm sorry for what you're going through and I hope with all my heart that you have real-life sources of support to help you in these terrible times.

Sierra Indigo · #59 06-26-2012, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty Camel

I did do some reading here before I joined.

Hrm, where have I heard that before?

Sister Vigilante · #60 06-26-2012, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by expectopatronum

love you giraffe, mean it, but i think you're off the mark here. he explained in his initial post about this situation that the last of his family had gone back home and he was left alone for the first time since it happened. i agree it is essential to lean on any IRL support you may have, but people also have their own lives and can't always be there when the loneliness kicks in and the urge to talk to someone becomes overwhelming.

He was being sarcastic people.

Frosty, I'm sorry for your loss.

billfish678 · #61 06-26-2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Vigilante

He was being sarcastic people.

I got the impression that he was being sarcastic in a way that basically said "why the hell are on a message board to get important advice?".

I guess it is possible he was being sarcastic to the people who are saying that and doesn't believe it himself.

If the later is the case then my apologies.

IvoryTowerDenizen · #62 06-26-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by billfish678

I got the impression that he was being sarcastic in a way that basically said "why the hell are on a message board to get important advice?".

I guess it is possible he was being sarcastic to the people who are saying that and doesn't believe it himself.

If the later is the case then my apologies.

Yeah, I didn't take it that way either. I'd be happy to be wrong.

expectopatronum · #63 06-26-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Vigilante

He was being sarcastic people.

Frosty, I'm sorry for your loss.

no shit, sherlock. he responded with sarcasm and i responded to the point he was making. re-read the posts, and rolleyes smiley right back at you.

Ambivalid · #64 06-26-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by billfish678

And why do you come here complaining about how all those gyms are violating your civil rights just because you are in a wheelchair?

I mean really. Don't you have REAL people in the REAL world to talk about this with?

I will leave aside the fact that I truly believe you just say things to me in order to get a rise and I will attempt to genuinely answer this absurd question.

I made absolutely no issue whatsoever about the nature of his thread; his tragedy, if real, is awful and he needs help and support and this mb shouldn't be a place that shuns such outreach. However, when you add up the potential "troll" aspects, it looks like a definite possibility: the eerie coincidence lining up perfectly with the Umkay shitstorm; a new poster who has "lurked for a while" prior to posting fantastical claims; and this poster then announcing-via a new thread-to the entire board-that he is planning on packing up and leaving and wants to delete (this is done, IMO, to attract attention to himself and have members try to convince him to stay; rather than just leaving).

This is what make me think this could be a troll. Does this make me an asshole somehow? If so, why?

billfish678 · #65 06-26-2012, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ambivalid

This is what make me think this could be a troll. Does this make me an asshole somehow? If so, why?

Did I call you an asshole?

What I basically said was why can't he talk about major shit here? You do (for some values of major shit). If he needs to go somewhere else to talk about it IMO you do as well.

Wasn't that basically what you were saying in the part from you I quoted ealier? If it isnt, explain it better. If it is the tell my why my points are baloney.

The whole "this is why I think this a troll " is a totatally seperate thing.

Loach · #66 06-26-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by billfish678

Did I call you an asshole?

What I basically said was why can't he talk about major shit here? You do (for some values of major shit). If he needs to go somewhere else to talk about it IMO you do as well.

Wasn't that basically what you were saying in the part from you I quoted ealier? If it isnt, explain it better. If it is the tell my why my points are baloney.

The whole "this is why I think this a troll " is a totatally seperate thing.

He can talk major shit here. Others have and others will with varying levels of success. But even before the current situation many of us are wary when someone joins just to post something that will illict very strong responses. It is odd that someone would randomly find a general interest board like this and choose to post something deeply personal as their first post. It's not damning but it is curious. Which is why I don't participate in such threads until I'm reasonable sure it's not bullshit.

billfish678 · #67 06-26-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Loach

He can talk major shit here. Others have and others will with varying levels of success. But even before the current situation many of us are wary when someone joins just to post something that will illict very strong responses. It is odd that someone would randomly find a general interest board like this and choose to post something deeply personal as their first post. It's not damning but it is curious. Which is why I don't participate in such threads until I'm reasonable sure it's not bullshit.

And what was Ambivilad's first major thread here (if not his first damn post)?

Therefore Amby is a troll by your logic.

PlainJain · #68 06-26-2012, 09:15 PM

All this does make me curious as to how RandRover claims to know it's a true story.

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I'm not sure RR's behavior veers into board rules violating jerkitude. I mean, it's kinda jerky to tell a person "I don't believe you", but it's also a legitimate reaction to being told something that sounds too close to standard troll patterns. Also, it's fair to question other poster's motives in the Pit.

You might want to go back and re-read Rand's post. He didn't say, "I don't believe you". But rather, "I know what you are saying is 100% true, but I think you are posting it just to get a rise". Here's a quote:

"The dude is absolutely telling the truth (i.e., everything in his OP is 100% accurate)--don't ask me how I know.

But, he knows that, due to recent events with umkay, the board is discussing the whole phenomenon of trolling and is quite suspicious of posters with extraordinary stories. So, he posts about his completely true story just to get a rise out of people by arousing their suspicion, secure in the knowledge that he's actually telling the absolute truth."

RR didn't accuse Frosty of troll by lying, but troll by relating his story (while true) at a time he knew it would get just this reaction. Unless RandRover knows Frosty IRL, I don't see how he could know Frosty's intentions.

TubaDiva · #69 06-26-2012, 09:24 PM

Sheesh.

Why do I feel like Rodney King here?

Can we all get along?

Frosty Camel, stay if you like. Leave if you must.

Everybody ... can we just dial down the volume and have 5 minutes without some drama?

Stop banging on each other.

If you can't say something nice ...

Y'all are giving me a headache.

billfish678 · #70 06-26-2012, 09:34 PM

You have something as major as a headache and are complaining about it here?

TROLL!

PlainJain · #71 06-26-2012, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by billfish678

You have something as major as a headache and are complaining about it here?

TROLL!

FTW.

Darth Panda · #72 06-26-2012, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TubaDiva

Everybody ... can we just dial down the volume and have 5 minutes without some drama?

I wonder when the last time the board went 5 minutes without drama actually was? Not counting the times you accidentally banned everyone or the server was down.

I don't mean that as a bad thing, just a curiosity / matter of statistics. Hell, there was a time that the whole internet went 5 minutes without drama, but we shall never see the likes of that again.

Do Not Taunt · #73 06-26-2012, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TubaDiva

Stop banging on each other.

I first read this without the word 'on' and wondered how I managed to miss that!

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Why do I feel like Rodney King here?

TubaDiva was a great admin here. She will be missed. I'm sorry for your loss. Can I send flowers?

jackdavinci · #74 06-26-2012, 10:30 PM

Wow there's a lot of meanness on the board this week and not just in this thread, and not even just against hypothetical trolls What happened to not threadshitting and not being a jerk?

Loach · #75 06-27-2012, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by billfish678

And what was Ambivilad's first major thread here (if not his first damn post)?

Therefore Amby is a troll by your logic.

Did you not read the post you quoted? Did it say anywhere in there that such actions automatically meant troll? It's not a long quote I'm sure you can find it if I did.

Sister Vigilante · #76 06-27-2012, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by expectopatronum

no shit, sherlock. he responded with sarcasm and i responded to the point he was making. re-read the posts, and rolleyes smiley right back at you.

It wasn't directed at you, thus my use of the word "people". You just happened to be the one I quoted.

twickster · #77 06-27-2012, 10:45 AM

People, this is ATMB, and this is supposed to be a thread about how to delete an account.

Dial back the snark, please.

Inner Stickler · #78 06-27-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by IvoryTowerDenizen

Exactly. I've seen incredible support given here when posters spouses, children or other loved ones died. He was lonely, had called a friend who couldn't make it over immediately and needed some "company" to get through a tough moment.

That's fine, whatever. But this is not a board based around bereavement support. If some posters manage to find some, that's great but it's incidental. Google is not that hard to use and if you're truly looking for unconditional support for grief, just go to one of the many internet forums set up specifically for that purpose, and that have members and moderators who have quick and easy access to resources and information. This is not to say that one can't look for such support here, but that one shouldn't be surprised if one doesn't get it.

Vinyl Turnip · #79 06-27-2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by twickster

Mod note
People, this is ATMB, and this is supposed to be a thread about how to delete an account.

Dial back the snark, please.

My knob is stuck!

Ambivalid · #80 06-27-2012, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by billfish678

And why do you come here complaining about how all those gyms are violating your civil rights just because you are in a wheelchair?

I mean really. Don't you have REAL people in the REAL world to talk about this with?

I wasn't commenting on whether or not this board was an appropriate venue to discuss the matter; rather I was commenting on the fact that he was sticking around to start threads asking how to delete his account when his family has just died. It would seem, if he really wanted to just forget about this place he'd just leave rather than broadcasting his discontent.

BigT · #81 06-27-2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ambivalid

I wasn't commenting on whether or not this board was an appropriate venue to discuss the matter; rather I was commenting on the fact that he was sticking around to start threads asking how to delete his account when his family has just died. It would seem, if he really wanted to just forget about this place he'd just leave rather than broadcasting his discontent.

That is some very odd thinking.