Ask the (Not So) Amateur Porn Director

[MikeSouth]

Originally Posted by Simple Linctus

Why are there not many genuine videos of girls losing their virginity on camera? I would have thought it was something there would be demand for.

(and if you really wanted to make it pay, then you could by letting site members enter a raffle to be the one to take the girl's cherry. Bring you wheelbarrows of cash, that would.)

Oh I am sure there would be a demand for it and if my memory serves me correctly it has even been done on a oneshot basis, but that would be something I would balk at, it would have to be a girl who knew 100% what she was doing and why she wanted to do it. To do a site like that I would have to have at least 1 a month...not likely.

I think the first time should be something hot and sweaty in the back seat of a car or on your sofa while the parents are asleep or whatever not a voyeuristic spectacle.

[MikeSouth]

Originally Posted by FoieGrasIsEvil

I always took the term "amateur" in porn to mean something along the lines of "more regular looking girls" as opposed to "models". I think that some guys get turned on by that because the fantasy of being with the "girl next door" is a more attainable one than fucking Pamela Anderson.

I am in agreement on that one, the so called "true amateurs" who are only doing it for fun and not some form of valuable consideration are kind of like golden unicorns

[MichaelEmouse]

Originally Posted by Simple Linctus

Why are there not many genuine videos of girls losing their virginity on camera? I would have thought it was something there would be demand for.

(and if you really wanted to make it pay, then you could by letting site members enter a raffle to be the one to take the girl's cherry. Bring you wheelbarrows of cash, that would.)

Which you'd get to enjoy in prison as a pimp.

Perhaps I am wrong but I don't think you'll find many women who'd want their first time in a studio and on camera.

Also, if we drew a Venn diagram of "Women who are still virgins are 18" and "Women who want to appear in porn", I'd think they wouldn't intersect much.




Mike,

You mention that when one pornographer innovates and hits upon something, all the others flock. What do you think the next innovations in porn will be? Not just in terms of tech but themes, acts etc.

You touched upon recruitment ealier. Aside from referrals from actors in your previous movies and chance encounters, what are the ways you recruit your actresses? How about the male talent?

[Chicagojeff]

Dude.. this thread has been informative and interesting.. I'm local to you. and once I responded to a alarm call.. and we nearly walked into something being filmed I'm sure none of the parties would have wanted that LOL... it was over by Northeast expressway/northcrest road area..
As a black dude.. what's your opinion on how the interracial aspect plays out.. I remember brothers really into porn being pissed because certain companies won't allow their performers to film IR.. and in several cases the talent is dating/living with someone of another race. How do the bigwigs see this? I've surmised that they take a talent like a jesse jane and basically get as much out of her as then can.. then the make some big deal about her doing her first IR.. am I close to the mark??

BTW if you need security lol hit me up.

[MikeSouth]

Originally Posted by MichaelEmouse

Mike,

You mention that when one pornographer innovates and hits upon something, all the others flock. What do you think the next innovations in porn will be? Not just in terms of tech but themes, acts etc.

You touched upon recruitment ealier. Aside from referrals from actors in your previous movies and chance encounters, what are the ways you recruit your actresses? How about the male talent?

Obviously right now its the parody thing, because of how porn is in the middle of its worst bubble burst ever and because thing tend to be cyclic my guess would be a return to erotica, maybe stuff like "Misty Beethoven", "Cafe Flesh", and "For the Love of Pleasure"

There seems to be very little money in the wall to wall sex vids these days except on the internet

[MikeSouth]

Originally Posted by Chicagojeff

Dude.. this thread has been informative and interesting.. I'm local to you. and once I responded to a alarm call.. and we nearly walked into something being filmed I'm sure none of the parties would have wanted that LOL... it was over by Northeast expressway/northcrest road area..
As a black dude.. what's your opinion on how the interracial aspect plays out.. I remember brothers really into porn being pissed because certain companies won't allow their performers to film IR.. and in several cases the talent is dating/living with someone of another race. How do the bigwigs see this? I've surmised that they take a talent like a jesse jane and basically get as much out of her as then can.. then the make some big deal about her doing her first IR.. am I close to the mark??

BTW if you need security lol hit me up.

I have shot in that area...it may have even been me if it was many years ago, I recall a visit on a guerrilla style shoot at the old northeast/I85 drive in after it was torn down. We were given a warning and let go.

As for the IR thing its mostly only an issue for a few companies that sell to cable and PPV and it becomes less of an issue every year it seems. Personally I really do consider myself color blind, I could care less ( I do see GREEN very well...call me a capitalist I suppose.) by the same token if a girl tells me she doesnt want to work with asians, or black guys, or white guys or whatever I have to respect her wishes, for whatever the reasons are ( and I never ask) but I can say in all sincerity it usually doesn't matter so in maybe 2 generations things in the south have come a very long way.

As for bodyguards....funny thing I have a collection of death threats but none are from boyfriends, husbands, fathers or whatever, hell many of those I am friends with.) They all come from other porners and assorted scumbags that I outted for being...well...scumbags. I did get a GFL (Georgia Firearms License ie a concealed carry permit) though and I feel naked without my .45ACP with JHP bullets.

email me though I do need help from time to time but just remember I am a cheap bastard LOL

[Simple Linctus]

Originally Posted by MichaelEmouse

Which you'd get to enjoy in prison as a pimp.

Perhaps I am wrong but I don't think you'll find many women who'd want their first time in a studio and on camera.

Also, if we drew a Venn diagram of "Women who are still virgins are 18" and "Women who want to appear in porn", I'd think they wouldn't intersect much.

Quite but that's cause not enough effort has been put into finding them. You could find them with enough advertising. Ignore whether that would make any business sense at all for the time being.

Your first point I don't get though. What would be illegal about it?

[MikeSouth]

Originally Posted by Simple Linctus

Quite but that's cause not enough effort has been put into finding them. You could find them with enough advertising. Ignore whether that would make any business sense at all for the time being.

Your first point I don't get though. What would be illegal about it?

Remember the dissertation on obscenity law and community standards?

A wise attorney once advised porners to never shoot anything that you would be uncomfortable showing to 12 ordinary citizens. While I can justify the way I do bukkake (to myself because thats what really matters to me) I could never justify shooting a virgin being deflowered except under the rarest of circumstances (she was over 21, completely sane and was doing it for sane reasons.)

[MichaelEmouse]

Originally Posted by Simple Linctus

Your first point I don't get though. What would be illegal about it?

I made sure to reply to your message because your suggestion looks like it could be legal and I'm sure you had nothing but the best of intentions in making it. However it could lead someone to commit a crime. I personally have no moral problems with your suggestion.

Even in jurisdictions where prostitution is legal, pimping is usually criminal. It would be very surprising if pimping were not criminal in Mike South's area.

If Mike South receives money from John in exchange for John being able to have sex with a woman who follows Mike South's directions to have sex with John, that is pimping. Making it a raffle doesn't change the nature of the transaction. Making it a raffle paying members are entered into without having to pay an additional charge doesn't change the nature of the transaction.

And then there's the community standard Mike South mentions. The cops/DA could make the case that any indirect exchange of money for sex is against community standards.

[MikeSouth]

Originally Posted by MichaelEmouse

I made sure to reply to your message because your suggestion looks like it could be legal and I'm sure you had nothing but the best of intentions in making it. However it could lead someone to commit a crime. I personally have no moral problems with your suggestion.

Even in jurisdictions where prostitution is legal, pimping is usually criminal. It would be very surprising if pimping were not criminal in Mike South's area.

If Mike South receives money from John in exchange for John being able to have sex with a woman who follows Mike South's directions to have sex with John, that is pimping. Making it a raffle doesn't change the nature of the transaction. Making it a raffle paying members are entered into without having to pay an additional charge doesn't change the nature of the transaction.

And then there's the community standard Mike South mentions. The cops/DA could make the case that any indirect exchange of money for sex is against community standards.

actually you got a part I missed it would be very illegal for me to charge people for that . I cant and dont accept money to attend shoots as either a participant or someone who watches or anything of the sort that would break prostitution and pimping and pandering laws....good catch

[MikeSouth]

FWIW when I first started in this biz it was illegal to perform oral sex in this state and it was a felony.

That statute got struck down by the GA supreme Court when they actually tried to enforce it in, I think 2003. Since the Supreme Court (Lawrence V Texas) struck down all such laws as unconstitutional. They are still on the books in many states though.

[dnooman]

What are the most "Diva" demands you've ever heard from stars?

We know you have tons of dirt, and don't want to burn anyone, but you're asking for inquisition with this thread.

"Diva" demands form stars. These may be just stories you've heard over the years, in fact they likely are. You were out of town when that shit happened.

"I heard from a friend that some girl on set said....

[YogSosoth]

How much do you know of Japanese porn? A lot of videos I've seen involve street upskirts, guys running up to women and pulling down their tops, that sort of thing. I would think that it would get them arrested but I haven't ever seen a non-Japanese version so maybe its real? And why don't we see more American porn like that?

[MikeSouth]

What are the most "Diva" demands you've ever heard from stars?

Honestly since I mostly shoot amateurs I dont get "demands" As for the times I have shot in L.A. I have never had any demands....a few attitudes here and there but mostly porn chicks are pretty chill. What they generally are though is LATE LOL.

We know you have tons of dirt, and don't want to burn anyone, but you're asking for inquisition with this thread.

"Diva" demands form stars. These may be just stories you've heard over the years, in fact they likely are. You were out of town when that shit happened.

"I heard from a friend that some girl on set said....

Lots of dirt ya but honestly I havent worked with anyone who really copped a "diva" attitude very bad, once in a while they bitch at the shows about the fans being too pushy or whatever but thats to be expected some are too pushy. On the other had I have seen a few get attitude with the fans at the shows and thats a bad move.

I did hear Jenna Jameson say when inducted into porns Hall of Fame that she would "never spread her legs for this business again". She was followed by Stormy Daniels who said she "would not stop spreading her legs for this business"

I know Jenna I consider Stormy a friend.

[MikeSouth]

Originally Posted by YogSosoth

How much do you know of Japanese porn? A lot of videos I've seen involve street upskirts, guys running up to women and pulling down their tops, that sort of thing. I would think that it would get them arrested but I haven't ever seen a non-Japanese version so maybe its real? And why don't we see more American porn like that?

Well I don't know much about JAV (Japanese Adult Video) in terms of what is legal in japan and what isnt when you are in public....my guess is that anything you see is staged. They do have some really weird fetishes over there.

[YogSosoth]

Originally Posted by MikeSouth

Well I don't know much about JAV (Japanese Adult Video) in terms of what is legal in japan and what isnt when you are in public....my guess is that anything you see is staged. They do have some really weird fetishes over there.

You mean, really awesome fetishes!

[Krokodil]

There's a syphilis panic in the LA porn community right now and an AIDS activist is quoted as saying that the industry is unable to police itself. What are your thoughts? Are you protected from LA's problems by shooting in Atlanta?

Also, have you been to Fatt Matt's?

[holmes]

Originally Posted by Krokodil

There's a syphilis panic in the LA porn community right now and an AIDS activist is quoted as saying that the industry is unable to police itself. What are your thoughts? Are you protected from LA's problems by shooting in Atlanta?

Apparently Mr. Marcus is patient Zero.

[gaffa]

Chloe Nichol said in one interview that every single performer in the San Fernando Valley had herpes, that it was just a given.

[JMH125]

Originally Posted by gaffa

Chloe Nichol said in one interview that every single performer in the San Fernando Valley had herpes, that it was just a given.

To be honest, i don't see how that is even avoidable in the porn industry, it's easy to exchange, there can be no visible side effects, and most porn that i see, they don't use condoms.

[myskepticsight]

Looks like Mr South is pretty famous, no?

http://gawker.com/5946695/the-king-o...hilis-outbreak

Hope it's not uncouth to pop this thread back up top with this, saw it today and was like HEY he posted on SDMB right?

[dnooman]

Originally Posted by myskepticsight

Looks like Mr South is pretty famous, no?

http://gawker.com/5946695/the-king-o...hilis-outbreak

Hope it's not uncouth to pop this thread back up top with this, saw it today and was like HEY he posted on SDMB right?

Pretty long read, but a very good one.

Just out of curiosity Mike, how many message boards do you think you're subscribed to? It must be more than a few.

[TonySinclair]

Originally Posted by MikeSouth

What percentage of actresses are completely shaved? It seems like it's 100% nowadays.

It aint just porn actresses, it seems to be the norm these days for girls who arent even strippers, and I must admit I prefer it,

Bald pussies are the thing I hate most about modern porn.

I know that different people have different tastes, so I can understand that some people might prefer bald pussies. But I can't imagine anyone preferring ugly zits and lumps and bumps and stubble and rashes, and that's what I see on about 8 out of 10 shaved porn actresses. I can't understand why a pussy with hair on it should be relegated to the fetish aisle, so to speak.

I think pubic hair is very sexy, and I have two million years of evolution to back me up. I'm not asking for a completely untouched bush (although those can be nice, especially on Asians), just a nicely trimmed one, like Christy Canyon had, or like Gianna Michaels had in most of her movies.

Thank you for your consideration.

[Icerigger]

What's the deal on all the homemade sex videos that are all over the web? Some of them are obviously "real porn" films but many seem to be husband/wife or boy friend/girlfriend fooling around. Some claim to be hidden camera or a jilted lover uploading the video for revenge. Any insight on these are they "real sex" or not?

[cumcovered_xdresser]

It seems you haven't replied in a while, but hopefully that's only temporary. Is it possible to hire a group of men for a bukkake video? How would someone outside of the porn idustry go about doing that?

[grodinsky]

how's the smell?