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Old 03-25-2012, 11:48 AM
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Will I die if I touch this thing on the heater?

I live in an apartment and have baseboard heaters that are heated by hot water running through them. At the bottom of the heaters are long, brass (I think) bars that run the length of the heaters. One bar has slipped out of the brackets that hold it up and so now it's sitting on the carpet.

Can I lift it back into its spot or will I end up electrocuted?
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Old 03-25-2012, 11:56 AM
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I doubt it, but why take a chance? Flip the breaker for the heater and move it to your heart's content.
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Old 03-25-2012, 11:57 AM
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I doubt it, but why take a chance? Flip the breaker for the heater and move it to your heart's content.
Yeah, I guess I could do that
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Old 03-25-2012, 12:41 PM
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How can you get electrocuted by hot water?
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Old 03-25-2012, 12:42 PM
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Personally, I think that one of the benefits of living in an apartment is letting management deal with things like that.
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Old 03-25-2012, 12:46 PM
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Some baseboard heaters have just the heating element some others have the heating element and the return pipe. What you're looking at is probably the return pipe so it's unlikely that it will electrocute you.
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Old 03-25-2012, 12:50 PM
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Well it's been an hour, I think it's safe to assume our dear FloatyGimpy is no longer with us. Who's going to be the first to say some words about him?
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Old 03-25-2012, 01:02 PM
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Well it's been an hour, I think it's safe to assume our dear FloatyGimpy is no longer with us. Who's going to be the first to say some words about him?
I didn't do it yet. I have to move the budgie cages away from the heater first so I can get in behind there and I'm still in my pajamas eating a bowl of cereal.

So not dead, just lazy.
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Old 03-25-2012, 02:35 PM
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It sounds like you are describing a hot water baseboard as opposed to an electric baseboard. IF that is correct, just lift up the pipe and replace it in the holding bracket.

If it's electric, call the landlord unless you know with absolute dead certainty how to kill the power.
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Old 03-25-2012, 03:00 PM
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Can you post a photo?
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Old 03-25-2012, 03:01 PM
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Yeah sure I'll take one right now. I'll post it in a minute.
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Old 03-25-2012, 03:08 PM
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Old 03-25-2012, 03:35 PM
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Gimpy died, like so many young men of this generation, before his time - like the bright, flowering young men who died, face down in the muck, in Khe San and Hill 364. Gimpy, who loved to bowl. In Your wisdom, Lord, You took him from us.

And so, Floaty Gimpy Karabatsos, in accordance with what may very well have been his dying wishes, we commit his ashes to the bosom of the Pacific Ocean, which you loved so well.

Good night, sweet Gimp

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Old 03-25-2012, 03:47 PM
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It looks like just a water pipe, so yeah, you can move it.

Usually pipes like that don't move without a leak though - the pipe is rigid. I'm not sure what was supposed to be holding it.
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Old 03-25-2012, 04:13 PM
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And so, Floaty Gimpy Karabatsos, in accordance with what may very well have been his dying wishes, we commit his ashes to the bosom of the Pacific Ocean, which you loved so well.
Actually, I think he's just pining for the fjords.

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Old 03-25-2012, 04:41 PM
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Gimpy died, like so many young men of this generation, before his time - like the bright, flowering young men who died, face down in the muck, in Khe San and Hill 364. Gimpy, who loved to bowl. In Your wisdom, Lord, You took him from us.

And so, Floaty Gimpy Karabatsos, in accordance with what may very well have been his dying wishes, we commit his ashes to the bosom of the Pacific Ocean, which you loved so well.

Good night, sweet Gimp
*sniff*
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Old 03-25-2012, 05:52 PM
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Well, OK, I'm baffled by the photo. I see a copper (not brass) pipe, and some kind of heat transfer fins on something partly hidden above it, and some wires.

I think baseboard heat sources would be either hot water, or electrical, but not both. That pipe is not the thing releasing heat into the room; whatever has fins on it just above is what releases the heat into the room. I guess there could be copper pipes going both ways, the upper one with fins to release the heat and the lower one to bring the water back so that (for whatever reason) the plumbing enters and leaves the scene in two adjacent locations.

The wire is baffling, if it is serving an electrical function. But you're not going to have loose wires like that in any typical heater. Could the wires have been placed there for a mechanical purpose, such as to hold up the non-finned copper pipe? Maybe they fell apart and dropped the pipe and became visible for that reason?

In any case, if it were in my house, I think I would look at the ends to try to figure out what is connected to what, and fiddle with the wires to see if they are just there as a tie, but unless I saw something surprising I would feel free to grab the copper pipe (just poking it once first to see if it was hot enough to burn).
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Old 03-25-2012, 06:05 PM
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I really need some closure on this one - it seems like I've been watching it forever

the wire could easily be a thermocouple or temperature sensor - or it could go to a solenoid that 'turns on' the hot water flow for that baseboard based on signal from a thermostat

that pipe is there because when they installed it, one of the plumbers had that left over from something he recently installed and couldn't think of any good use for it, so he just tucked it under the baseboard hoping that by the time anyone found it, he would only be a faint, vague memory

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Old 03-25-2012, 06:09 PM
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Ok, I'm going to touch the pipe.

I touched it. I didn't die, it is quite hot. I guess I should turn the heat off so it cools down, then lift it back into the brackets?

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Old 03-25-2012, 06:12 PM
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You're scaring me man.
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Old 03-25-2012, 06:51 PM
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wrap your hand in a towel soaked in cold water before you touch any of that stuff - in case it's hot or anything, you know?

I don't think it would be inappropriate for you to call the police about this one - I'd say there is a suspicious looking pipe in your house that you've never seen before, and that there are wires coming out of it and that it is getting hot ... that should get someone over there with some experience to look at it for free

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Old 03-25-2012, 07:07 PM
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wrap your hand in a towel soaked in cold water before you touch any of that stuff - in case it's hot or anything, you know?

I don't think it would be inappropriate for you to call the police about this one - I'd say there is a suspicious looking pipe in your house that you've never seen before, and that there are wires coming out of it and that it is getting hot ... that should get someone over there with some experience to look at it for free
No it's been there for the few months that I've lived here. I just didn't really pay much attention to it before.
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Old 03-25-2012, 07:26 PM
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do you live in new york or a big city in a large apartment building or a small one?
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Old 03-25-2012, 07:46 PM
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It's a pretty small building with 21 units.
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Old 03-25-2012, 08:27 PM
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It has been a long time since I had heat like that, but usually the metal cover can be removed (for cleaning of the fins). Quite easily in some installations, it just snaps off when you lift it out and up from the bottom edge.

That might give a clear look at what is wrong and what the wires are.

Or, just call the super. Clearly the return pipe is loose and that could make it leak - supers don't like that (and the calls from the downstairs tenants).

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Old 03-26-2012, 12:37 PM
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That looks like the kind of hot-water baseboard heater we had when I was living in a high-rise condo building.

The wire is probably part of the heat control, a thermostat controls a valve that opens and closes as needed to regulate the temperature of the living space.
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:52 PM
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Gimpy died, like so many young men of this generation, before his time - like the bright, flowering young men who died, face down in the muck, in Khe San and Hill 364. Gimpy, who loved to bowl. In Your wisdom, Lord, You took him from us.

And so, Floaty Gimpy Karabatsos, in accordance with what may very well have been his dying wishes, we commit his ashes to the bosom of the Pacific Ocean, which you loved so well.

Good night, sweet Gimp
What does any of this have to do with Viet Nam?
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:01 PM
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What does any of this have to do with Viet Nam?
I know, right? It's clearly Obama's fault.
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:10 PM
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What does any of this have to do with Viet Nam?
Not a damn thing. It's a reference to the movie "The Big Lebowski".

"You're out of your element, Donny!"
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:15 PM
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You just want to see him in his PJs, admit it.
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:28 PM
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Not a damn thing. It's a reference to the movie "The Big Lebowski".

"You're out of your element, Donny!"
So was my response.
It's the first non cussing thing JL says after Walter's Eulogy.

That sound over your head?

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Old 03-26-2012, 01:34 PM
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So was my response.
It's the first non cussing thing JL says after Walter's Eulogy.

That sound over your head?
Touche', sir!
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