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Old 12-06-2001, 05:29 PM
Jimbrowski Jimbrowski is offline
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In the Dead tune Truckin’, Jane is described as “…livin’ on reds, vitamin C, and cocaine…”

What exactly are these “reds”? I assume they’re pills of some sort, but what exactly?

In context (song lyrics, above), it sounds like they’re downers (“…livin’ on (downers), vitamin C, and (uppers)…”), but what exactly are they?

If you lived in Haight Ashbury in 1968 and you purchased “reds” from a dealer, what would you have received?
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Old 12-06-2001, 05:32 PM
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My WAG is that reds are a barbituate of some sort, to take the edge off the cocaine.
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Old 12-06-2001, 05:44 PM
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Seconal(secobarbital), known on the street as reds, red birds, red devils.


DESCRIPTION
Orange capsule marked "Lilly F42" (50mg) or "Lilly F 40" (100mg).

It's a common barbiturate or "downer."
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Old 12-06-2001, 10:12 PM
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ImInvisible nailed it, to my--and I hope the OP's-- delight! Just love accuracy in regard to all those old drugs I don't take any more.
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Old 12-06-2001, 10:31 PM
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Seconal(secobarbital), known on the street as reds, red birds, red devils.


DESCRIPTION
Orange capsule marked "Lilly F42" (50mg) or "Lilly F 40" (100mg).

Orange? They're, obviously, red. I'm positive about that. I also know from experience that these are some powerful fuckers that should not be used for recreational purposes ever.
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Old 12-06-2001, 10:49 PM
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...that should not be used for recreational purposes ever.
spoilsport!
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Old 12-06-2001, 11:37 PM
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I was trying to find a half-remembered quote re. seconal [and barbiturates in general] from Keith Richards; with no luck.

It was roughly to the effect that he deplored 'all the new-fangled drugs on the market, and pined for the old days with good old standbys like barbiturates..."
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Old 12-07-2001, 12:07 AM
Dirty Earthworm Dirty Earthworm is offline
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Orange? They're, obviously, red. I'm positive about that. I also know from experience that these are some powerful fuckers that should not be used for recreational purposes ever. [/B][/QUOTE]



As a former pill-popper, I will definitely second that. Damn things almost killed me. Pills are bad ... pills are very bad......

-Syko
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Old 12-07-2001, 12:24 AM
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Seconal: Red or Orange

My first post was simply copied from a website I found by entering "reds seconal" into Google (I instinctively knew that "reds" were Seconal, as I grew up in the '70s). It says they are "orange," as I quoted. After further research, I was unable to find another physical description or a picture.

Perhaps they are reddish/orange? I don't think I ever took them and, if I did, I don't remember. It does seem strange that all the slang names for an orange pill would contain the adjective "red". Maybe color perception among drug users in the '70s was impaired. But, then, they seemed to be able to identify "orange sunshine" and "brown acid."

Anyway, here is a link to the webpage that called them "orange":

http://www.bankhead.net/BoozeAndDrug...s/seconal.html
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