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Old 04-19-2002, 09:14 AM
Tom Arctus Tom Arctus is offline
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Joshua bar-Joseph of Nazareth

A fine point to add to Cecil's answer about Jesus's real name: I've heard it said that the name "Jesus" rendered in the Greek is close to another Greek word meaning "healer."
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Old 04-19-2002, 09:47 AM
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Isn't there also a word "ben" in hebrew that refers to the mother? As in "Joshua ben-Miriam" which would be son of Miriam, or Mary?
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Old 04-19-2002, 09:51 AM
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"Ben" in Hebrew means son-of.

So X-ben-Y would mean X the son of Y. Y could be the father or the mother.

"Bar" is Aramaic for son-of.

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Old 04-19-2002, 10:18 AM
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I'm a bit dubious about this one. According to www.merriam-webster.com, Joshua (and my name is Joshua and I'm Jewish) comes from the Hebrew name Yehoshua. It says that the name Jesus comes from the Hebrew name Yeshua. Not quite the same. Joshua was, of course, Moses' lieutenant in the Old Testament. At least, that's who I was named after
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Old 04-19-2002, 01:45 PM
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spacepony,

Actually, Yeshua is just another variant of Yehoshua, and they can be used interchangeably for the same person. For example, the first High Priest in the second Temple is alternately called Yehoshua ben Yehotzadak (as in Haggai 1:1) and Yeshua ben Yotzadak (as in Ezra 3:2). Not only that, but the Joshua, after whom you're named, is called Yeshua in one place (Nehemiah 8:17).
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Old 04-30-2002, 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by zev_steinhardt
"Ben" in Hebrew means son-of.

So X-ben-Y would mean X the son of Y. Y could be the father or the mother.

"Bar" is Aramaic for son-of.

Zev Steinhardt

Thanks Zev. So, I wonder, does the name "Benjamin" mean "son of Jamin" (or Yamin)?
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Old 04-30-2002, 12:20 PM
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Almost forgot,

Does either Hebrew or Aramaic have a word for "daughter of"?
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Old 04-30-2002, 01:29 PM
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Almost forgot,

Does either Hebrew or Aramaic have a word for "daughter of"?
Yes. The word (in both languages) is "bas."

My daughter is Tzivya Machla bas Zev Ari.


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Old 04-30-2002, 01:31 PM
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According to translations I've read, Benjamin means "son of the south" or "son of the right hand." So Jamin would mean "south" or "right hand"- I'm not sure if it was likely to be a person's name. Zev obviously knows Hebrew; I don't.
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Old 04-30-2002, 01:34 PM
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Literally translated, the word "yamin" means right (as opposed to left). So, Binyamin (as the name would be said in Hebrew) could literally mean "son of the right" or "son of right."

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